LittleBigPlanet is the best platformer of ALL TIME [PROOF INSIDE!]

[QUOTE="paradigm68"][QUOTE="Aku101"]

But 3D platformers are terrible. See sonic and mario when they went 3D.

Aku101

mario 64 and sunshine were terrible in comparison to their 2D predecessors, i haven't played SMG yet but when I do i'll give it a fair review but I'm not expecting much.

How can you not be expecting much? It wont GotY and it's like the highest rated game this gen? Higher than LBP I might add.

[QUOTE="ActicEdge"]

Here Aku, let me destroy this argument with one simple point. LBP is 2D. How is it going to recreate a 3D platformer?

Aku101

But 3D platformers are terrible. See sonic and mario when they went 3D.

It's mostly Sonic Team's fault that Sonic didn't work in 3D recently. Mario worked great in 3D.

As much as I love Mario, this is debatable. Plus, LBP's soundtrack and graphical design win hands down. LBP also has a lot more variety, and gameplay's pretty similar. Very debatable.

brickdoctor

I'm pretty sure LBP's soundtrack will be forgotten or already is. Mario's music has been featured everywhere.

And the gameplay isn't similar. They're both platformers. That's where the similarities end. LBP's 3 layer stages, which can be janky and problematic, and the physics are floating and imprecise by comparison to the best there is (ie: Mario).

[QUOTE="brickdoctor"]

As much as I love Mario, this is debatable. Plus, LBP's soundtrack and graphical design win hands down. LBP also has a lot more variety, and gameplay's pretty similar. Very debatable.

ActicEdge

No its not, LBP lacks basically everything it takes to be a top tier platformer. Graphical design and soundtrack are not part of that. Not as if LBP even wins hands down in those areas either. Variety, important, was the variety up to par? Not really. Gameplay, LBP is like a simplified MArio game stripped of any design brilliance and finess. If that's what you meant then sure. LBP does not hold a candle to SMB3, SMW, SMW2:YI, SMG, Sonic 2, Sonic 3, Crash Bandicoot 3, Kirby's adventre, Spyro 2, Donkey Kong Country 2 etc

So many good platformers :cry:

[QUOTE="Aku101"]

[QUOTE="ActicEdge"]

Here Aku, let me destroy this argument with one simple point. LBP is 2D. How is it going to recreate a 3D platformer?

Burning-Sludge

But 3D platformers are terrible. See sonic and mario when they went 3D.

It's mostly Sonic Team's fault that Sonic didn't work in 3D recently. Mario worked great in 3D.

It's simple, with LBP's level editor you can create any level that you want and you can take it as far as your imagination wants to go. You can also recreate levels from other platformers therefore making them obsolete. I don't understand how people say the LBp's platforming is too easy when all platformers are easy and simple in gameplay mechanics. What makes platformers difficult is the level. You can easily make a difficult level in LBP to please the hardcore crowd.

LBP plays the same as mario and both are equally simple in gameplay but LBP totally crushes the mario franchsie with a custom level editor which mario does not have. In the end LBP has the endless replay value to back it up while mario does not. LBP is therefore the best platformer of ALL TIME.

Aku101

While the level editor is great, LBP's platforming is nowhere near as tight as SMB3 or SMBW. Sackboy flies around out of control quite a bit, which is quite annoying. It needs a lot of refinement to be truly great platforming.

Over 50 posts and not one person has made a Kanye reference with that title?

For shame. :P

Anyway, from my experience with LBP, it's a bit too floaty and the controls are just over all not that good. That pretty much knocks it out of the running for best platformer right there.

I agree that Super Mario Galaxy is the best... I've never played a more perfect platformer.

psn8214

It's simple, with LBP's level editor you can create any level that you want and you can take it as far as your imagination wants to go. You can also recreate levels from other platformers therefore making them obsolete. I don't understand how people say the LBp's platforming is too easy when all platformers are easy and simple in gameplay mechanics. What makes platformers difficult is the level. You can easily make a difficult level in LBP to please the hardcore crowd.

LBP plays the same as mario and both are equally simple in gameplay but LBP totally crushes the mario franchsie with a custom level editor which mario does not have. In the end LBP has the endless replay value to back it up while mario does not. LBP is therefore the best platformer of ALL TIME.

Aku101

I do not know. Scribblenauts gives every other 2-D platformer a run for their money.SparkyProtocol

I do not know. Scribblenauts gives every other 2-D platformer a run for their money.SparkyProtocol

Little Big Planet being the best 2D platformer I could agree with, but best platformer in general, IM sorry but no, there are plenty that I know of that imo beat it tenfold. (of course its all opinion.)

It is really good, had ALOT more enjoyment out of it that SMG... but the best? nah... LBP2 with alot more features/options maybe :D Birdy09

[QUOTE="Aku101"]

It's simple, with LBP's level editor you can create any level that you want and you can take it as far as your imagination wants to go. You can also recreate levels from other platformers therefore making them obsolete. I don't understand how people say the LBp's platforming is too easy when all platformers are easy and simple in gameplay mechanics. What makes platformers difficult is the level. You can easily make a difficult level in LBP to please the hardcore crowd.

LBP plays the same as mario and both are equally simple in gameplay but LBP totally crushes the mario franchsie with a custom level editor which mario does not have. In the end LBP has the endless replay value to back it up while mario does not. LBP is therefore the best platformer of ALL TIME.

BuryMe

Er...that's why people make them for you. Seriously, this games makes people seems creative and intelligent...some of the best levels are user made ones. Play them, oh wait you can't cos you're a lem...just a guess judging your post.

Make a fully 3D platforming level.

Then come back to me.

It's great, but i'd take other games over it (still waiting on my SMG :evil: )

Aku101

Grasping at straws now are we?

But that's what you are doing.

It's simple, with LBP's level editor you can create any level that you want and you can take it as far as your imagination wants to go. You can also recreate levels from other platformers therefore making them obsolete. I don't understand how people say the LBp's platforming is too easy when all platformers are easy and simple in gameplay mechanics. What makes platformers difficult is the level. You can easily make a difficult level in LBP to please the hardcore crowd.

LBP plays the same as mario and both are equally simple in gameplay but LBP totally crushes the mario franchsie with a custom level editor which mario does not have. In the end LBP has the endless replay value to back it up while mario does not. LBP is therefore the best platformer of ALL TIME.

Aku101

[QUOTE="Aku101"]

It's simple, with LBP's level editor you can create any level that you want and you can take it as far as your imagination wants to go. You can also recreate levels from other platformers therefore making them obsolete. I don't understand how people say the LBp's platforming is too easy when all platformers are easy and simple in gameplay mechanics. What makes platformers difficult is the level. You can easily make a difficult level in LBP to please the hardcore crowd.

LBP plays the same as mario and both are equally simple in gameplay but LBP totally crushes the mario franchsie with a custom level editor which mario does not have. In the end LBP has the endless replay value to back it up while mario does not. LBP is therefore the best platformer of ALL TIME.

nervmeister

if I werent in a good mood hed be getting lynched by the local banjo kazooie fan too :P

I do not know. Scribblenauts gives every other 2-D platformer a run for their money.SparkyProtocol

Except for the other ones on the DS.

[QUOTE="BuryMe"]

[QUOTE="Aku101"]

It's simple, with LBP's level editor you can create any level that you want and you can take it as far as your imagination wants to go. You can also recreate levels from other platformers therefore making them obsolete. I don't understand how people say the LBp's platforming is too easy when all platformers are easy and simple in gameplay mechanics. What makes platformers difficult is the level. You can easily make a difficult level in LBP to please the hardcore crowd.

LBP plays the same as mario and both are equally simple in gameplay but LBP totally crushes the mario franchsie with a custom level editor which mario does not have. In the end LBP has the endless replay value to back it up while mario does not. LBP is therefore the best platformer of ALL TIME.

tirralirra

Er...that's why people make them for you. Seriously, this games makes people seems creative and intelligent...some of the best levels are user made ones. Play them, oh wait you can't cos you're a lem...just a guess judging your post.

No offense but nothing in the user made content of LBP is going to match levels like Touch Fuzzy, Get Dizzy, Ultimate Castle perfection, the whole special world of SMW, Tons of levels in SMG, lots of crash bandicoot and spyro goodness, DKC etc. He most certainly isn't a lem, just someone who is aware that LBP can't hang with the big boys in terms of actual ya know, platforming.

I love LBP, it's one of my fave games, but a mario level isn't a substitute for mario :( . The enemy AI is sadly pretty limited in LBP, hopefully it's something they work on in patch. See you all soon in the water :)

[QUOTE="nervmeister"]

[QUOTE="Aku101"]

It's simple, with LBP's level editor you can create any level that you want and you can take it as far as your imagination wants to go. You can also recreate levels from other platformers therefore making them obsolete. I don't understand how people say the LBp's platforming is too easy when all platformers are easy and simple in gameplay mechanics. What makes platformers difficult is the level. You can easily make a difficult level in LBP to please the hardcore crowd.

LBP plays the same as mario and both are equally simple in gameplay but LBP totally crushes the mario franchsie with a custom level editor which mario does not have. In the end LBP has the endless replay value to back it up while mario does not. LBP is therefore the best platformer of ALL TIME.

dragonfly110

if I werent in a good mood hed be getting lynched by the local banjo kazooie fan too :P

[QUOTE="dragonfly110"]

[QUOTE="nervmeister"]Prepare to be lynched by an epic mob of Mario fans (and a few Crash Bandicoot fans :P)

nervmeister

if I werent in a good mood hed be getting lynched by the local banjo kazooie fan too :P

more like lynching microsoft for cancelling kameo 2, since this said fan happened to like Nuts and Bolts, despite being an utter disgrace to the series in terms of platforming.

I can find programs online that create better levels then LBP.

[QUOTE="ActicEdge"]

Here Aku, let me destroy this argument with one simple point. LBP is 2D. How is it going to recreate a 3D platformer?

But 3D platformers are terrible. See sonic and mario when they went 3D.

[QUOTE="nervmeister"]

[QUOTE="Aku101"]

It's simple, with LBP's level editor you can create any level that you want and you can take it as far as your imagination wants to go. You can also recreate levels from other platformers therefore making them obsolete. I don't understand how people say the LBp's platforming is too easy when all platformers are easy and simple in gameplay mechanics. What makes platformers difficult is the level. You can easily make a difficult level in LBP to please the hardcore crowd.

LBP plays the same as mario and both are equally simple in gameplay but LBP totally crushes the mario franchsie with a custom level editor which mario does not have. In the end LBP has the endless replay value to back it up while mario does not. LBP is therefore the best platformer of ALL TIME.

dragonfly110

if I werent in a good mood hed be getting lynched by the local banjo kazooie fan too :P

You can re-create a Castlevania level in Half-Life 2, but...

[QUOTE="dragonfly110"]

[QUOTE="nervmeister"]Prepare to be lynched by an epic mob of Mario fans (and a few Crash Bandicoot fans :P)

tirralirra

if I werent in a good mood hed be getting lynched by the local banjo kazooie fan too :P

lol wat are you talking about? THe second one is considered superiour to the original in almost every way, and yea nuts and Bolts isnt as good, but it was still good enough to beat Gears of War 2 and Fable 2 for Xbox 360 GOTY on giant bomb last year ;)

[QUOTE="Aku101"]

[QUOTE="Giancar"] but not the platforming aspects... that being said LBP is one of the best titles this gen for sure

Deadly_Fatalis

What platforming aspects can't i recreate in lbp ithat's in smb3?

And actually good platforming and fun jumping

[QUOTE="tirralirra"][QUOTE="dragonfly110"]

if I werent in a good mood hed be getting lynched by the local banjo kazooie fan too :P

dragonfly110

lol wat are you talking about? THe second one is considered superiour to the original in almost every way, and yea nuts and Bolts isnt as good, but it was still good enough to beat Gears of War 2 and Fable 2 for Xbox 360 GOTY on giant bomb last year ;)

Aku's back!!! Yeah!!!! More quote worthy stuff coming soo from Aku!
BTW, I totally disagree with your statement

I would rather have:

The fat, Italian plumber over

This guy any day

[QUOTE="Deadly_Fatalis"][QUOTE="Aku101"]

What platforming aspects can't i recreate in lbp ithat's in smb3?

VendettaRed07

And actually good platforming and fun jumping

In comparison to... Mario?

Who said Mario HAS to be the standard for platforming? I swear, it either plays exactly like Mario or it sucks as a platformer. I think LBPs physics give it unique, challenging gameplay. If you actually OWN the game, go look for fun, tough, well-made levels and LBP not only holds up against Mario but surpasses it in many areas. Sure, Mario games are streamlined, fast, arcadey (Modern Warfare comes to mind as an FPS similarity) and that provides fun, but it doesn't mean that LBPs platforming isn't good or isn't fun (KZ2 here) It's different. Accept it. Play it. Love it.

Aku's back!!! Yeah!!!! More quote worthy stuff coming soo from Aku!
BTW, I totally disagree with your statement

I would rather have:

The fat, Italian plumber over

This guy any day

93soccer

This beats a plumber.

(Sorry I couldn't find a better picture)

Aku's back!!! Yeah!!!! More quote worthy stuff coming soo from Aku!
BTW, I totally disagree with your statement

I would rather have:

The fat, Italian plumber over

This guy any day

93soccer

Mario started in the 1900's as a pack of cards. I would link you, but i can't find it on the internet. I read it in an old nintendo magazine back when the N64 was top trump

Edit: ^^^your profile pic is sooo fit for this place. Im surprised people don't get modded for making similar, most of the time, exactly the same topics. Shows how noobish this place is really.

Mario started in the 1900's as a pack of cards. I would link you, but i can't find it on the internet. I read it in an old nintendo magazine back when the N64 was top trump

tirralirra

My dad has an old Mario game where your packing liquor. It folded up, kinda like a sideways GBA SP. Kinda like a Game n' Watch game.

It's simple, with LBP's level editor you can create any level that you want and you can take it as far as your imagination wants to go. You can also recreate levels from other platformers therefore making them obsolete. I don't understand how people say the LBp's platforming is too easy when all platformers are easy and simple in gameplay mechanics. What makes platformers difficult is the level. You can easily make a difficult level in LBP to please the hardcore crowd.

LBP plays the same as mario and both are equally simple in gameplay but LBP totally crushes the mario franchsie with a custom level editor which mario does not have. In the end LBP has the endless replay value to back it up while mario does not. LBP is therefore the best platformer of ALL TIME.

Aku101

Super Mario World>LittleBigPlanet

LBP is a fantastic game, but it is not the best platformer of all time IMO.

[QUOTE="VendettaRed07"]

[QUOTE="Deadly_Fatalis"] Nostalgia. AndyAlfredo

And actually good platforming and fun jumping

In comparison to... Mario?

Who said Mario HAS to be the standard for platforming? I swear, it either plays exactly like Mario or it sucks as a platformer. I think LBPs physics give it unique, challenging gameplay. If you actually OWN the game, go look for fun, tough, well-made levels and LBP not only holds up against Mario but surpasses it in many areas. Sure, Mario games are streamlined, fast, arcadey (Modern Warfare comes to mind as an FPS similarity) and that provides fun, but it doesn't mean that LBPs platforming isn't good or isn't fun (KZ2 here) It's different. Accept it. Play it. Love it.

No one has ever said Mario was the standard. People often bring up Mario since it is seen as the pinnacle of the genre but it is not the standard. I just find it amusing how whenever someone says something negative about a game people like the accusation is they haven't played it.No one thinks LBP surpasses or meets Mario because it does not meet the requirements they consider necessary for a mario rivaling platformer. Oh noez!11!! Its not that people dislike or can't accept change (I'm pretty positive everyone loved 2D Sonic did they not?), its simply a mtter of not thinking LBP holds up. If you do cool, some of us do not however.

Oh, it's you again.

Well, I don't really feel like ripping LBP a new one today so I'll just refute your logic. In LBP you can create a variety of cool levels (no perfection recreations though) but due to not being able to change how the platforming is performed, thus being restricted to one platforming mechanic and not being able to recreate things like power ups (for legal reasons and etc), LBP will never be able to recreate even the most basic platformer perfectly. Also, Yoshi's Island is the best Platformer ever. I don't need proof, it is because that is how the world intended it to be. It was chosen by a higher power.

ActicEdge