just face it - no game on PC comes close to MGS4

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#1 67gt500
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When Crysis launched the gaming world had to pick their collective jaws off the floor at how eye-blisteringly gorgeous the game was... yes, it required a beefy rig to run smoothly and in all of it glory, but it was undeniably the pinnacle of gaming graphics, on any platform.

Then, it's stellar follow-up Crysis Warhead released again to oohs and ahhhs from the gaming community featuring an equally outstanding level of visual fidelity.

Yet, the best that PC could muster wasn't enough to clinch the [graphics] prize from the venerable console game Metal Gear Solid 4. There is much wailing and gnashing of teeth, but the critics have spoken, our peers have voted, and MGS4 is victorious.

But there is good news for PC gamers, after all is said and done - MGS4's victory over Crysis Warhead might inspire PC developers to pick up their game a bit and deliver something that can actually compete with console games with respect to technical graphics...

Maybe 2009 will see a 'return to glory' of sorts for PC, after this irrefutable defeat in 2008.

Thoughts?

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#2 death919
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Windwaker,a Gamecube game, has more beautiful graphics than MGS4.
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#3 DennisHopperz
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lol?
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[QUOTE="67gt500"]

When Crysis launched the gaming world had to pick their collective jaws off the floor at how eye-blisteringly gorgeous the game was... yes, it required a beefy rig to run smoothly and in all of it glory, but it was undeniably the pinnacle of gaming graphics, on any platform.

Then, it's stellar follow-up Crysis Warhead released again to oohs and ahhhs from the gaming community featuring an equally outstanding level of visual fidelity.

Yet, the best that PC could muster wasn't enough to clinch the [graphics] prize from the venerable console game Metal Gear Solid 4. There is much wailing and gnashing of teeth, but the critics have spoken, our peers have voted, and MGS4 is victorious.

But there is good news for PC gamers, after all is said and done - MGS4's victory over Crysis Warhead might inspire PC developers to pick up their game a bit and deliver something that can actually compete with console games with respect to technical graphics...

Maybe 2009 will see a 'return to glory' of sorts for PC, after this irrefutable defeat in 2008.

Thoughts?

Ive never played neither but ive watched videos of both and Crysis warhead looks way better. Gears 2 even looks better than MGS4.
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#6 Bebi_vegeta
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... really another Crysis topic by a consolite... why are you guys so insecure?
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e_e I see what your doing.
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#9 67gt500
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Windwaker,a Gamecube game, has more beautiful graphics than MGS4.death919
Are you implying that Windwaker >>>>> Crysis Warhead?
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#10 crozon
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Well i have both mgs4 and crysis, and crysis is way better in graphics. Plus i still prefer crysis to mgs4 as a game.
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#11 Dead-Memories
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Joke post?
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how so mgs4 is a ps3 game with low res textures and crysis murderes it.
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#13 CT-Link
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Windwaker,a Gamecube game, has more beautiful graphics than MGS4.death919
Exactly. And you've made a fine point right there. To say it's beautiful, is to be subjective. Zelda WW is veeery artsy and revolutionary (maybe first cel-shaded game almost everybody owned) and MGS4 looks very "realistic". IMO in terms of realismo Crysis wins there. Sure MGS4 has better animations and stuff, but then again ITS SUBJECTIVE.
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#14 Rob_101
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/joke thread.

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#15 Dynafrom
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TAKEN FROM MY POST IN ANOTHER THREAD:

The comparison to show it all, taken from my 1080p set full RGB, mind you the offscreen shots hide aliasing and horrible blocky shadows on MGS4.

FIRST CRYSIS:

MGS4 has the worst aliasing issues and blocky shadows I've seen this gen. They aren't shown in the shots but they are there.

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#16 KrazyKenKutarag
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Deus Ex>>>MGSIV
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#17 Brainkiller05
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Crysis Review Score: 9.5 MGS4 Review Score: 10.0 I'd say that's fairly close. It also has 10x better graphics and PC has higher standards when it comes to review scores, but hey if you wanna boast about 1024x768 gear solid then go ahead, if it helps you sleep better at night.
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#18 Spartan8907
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Off-screen shots FTL. But even in those pics, Crysis still looks better.
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#19 67gt500
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Deus Ex>>>MGSIVKrazyKenKutarag
Are you implying that Deus Ex >>>>>> Crysis Warhead? Because around here it's Official, MGS4 >>>>>> Crysis Warhead...
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There are better PC games then MGS4. Face it the PC has better graphics. Next year Empire Total War, Alan Wake, are going to blow away the PS3 graphics.

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#21 KrazyKenKutarag
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[QUOTE="KrazyKenKutarag"]Deus Ex>>>MGSIV67gt500
Are you implying that Deus Ex >>>>>> Crysis Warhead? Because around here it's Official, MGS4 >>>>>> Crysis Warhead...

Yes, I think MGSIV is a much better game than Crysis Warhead. In fact, the MGS series is one of my favourite console franchises of all time...

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#22 67gt500
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[QUOTE="PS3_3DO"]

There are better PC games then MGS4. Face it the PC has better graphics. Next year Empire Total War, Alan Wake, are going to blow away the PS3 graphics.

True, next year PC has a chance to redeem itself around here, if it can match the graphics fidelity of console games like MGS4...
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#23 ermacness
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even though i'm a ps3 defender, i can't and won't stand by this ridiculous thread
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#24 Leo-Magic
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[QUOTE="67gt500"]

When Crysis launched the gaming world had to pick their collective jaws off the floor at how eye-blisteringly gorgeous the game was... yes, it required a beefy rig to run smoothly and in all of it glory, but it was undeniably the pinnacle of gaming graphics, on any platform.

Then, it's stellar follow-up Crysis Warhead released again to oohs and ahhhs from the gaming community featuring an equally outstanding level of visual fidelity.

Yet, the best that PC could muster wasn't enough to clinch the [graphics] prize from the venerable console game Metal Gear Solid 4. There is much wailing and gnashing of teeth, but the critics have spoken, our peers have voted, and MGS4 is victorious.

But there is good news for PC gamers, after all is said and done - MGS4's victory over Crysis Warhead might inspire PC developers to pick up their game a bit and deliver something that can actually compete with console games with respect to technical graphics...

Maybe 2009 will see a 'return to glory' of sorts for PC, after this irrefutable defeat in 2008.

Thoughts?

haha...another joke.
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#25 ermacness
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Well i have both mgs4 and crysis, and crysis is way better in graphics. Plus i still prefer crysis to mgs4 as a game.crozon
i really didn't hear phenomenal things about Crysis gameplay
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joke post right? :? if not then, :lol:
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#27 mattbbpl
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[QUOTE="67gt500"][QUOTE="PS3_3DO"]

There are better PC games then MGS4. Face it the PC has better graphics. Next year Empire Total War, Alan Wake, are going to blow away the PS3 graphics.

True, next year PC has a chance to redeem itself around here, if it can match the graphics fidelity of console games like MGS4...

I think I'm going to be sick...
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#28 mattbbpl
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even though i'm a ps3 defender, i can't and won't stand by this ridiculous threadermacness
It's ridiculous what MGSIV winning the "Best Graphics, Technical" award has done to people. It's like they've lost all reason and eyesight.
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[QUOTE="death919"]Windwaker,a Gamecube game, has more beautiful graphics than MGS4.dream431ca

Trolling attempt ended in epic failure.

:| No it didn't. IMO WindWaker still looks better than a lot of games. Of course, that's subjective.
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#30 67gt500
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even though i'm a ps3 defender, i can't and won't stand by this ridiculous threadermacness
it's not ridiculous - it's a fact... around here MGS4 >>>>>> Crysis Warhead... end-of-story... the best that PC had this year wasn't good enough to topple a console contemporary in the graphics category... I'm not making this stuff up...
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#31 hfgjhgjghjghjgh
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gamespy has a pc service/server browser called gamespy arcade www.gamespyarcade.com

they host the master servers for console games and pc games like crysis and unreal tournament 3

they are a pc site by heart and they gave gears of war 2 the best graphics award.

their say is more than gamespots lol

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#32 deactivated-5b1e62582e305
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GS is so awesome for making MGS4 win best graphics, it made SW all that much funnier. :lol:
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#33 Killfox
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STALKER: Clear Skies looks better.
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[QUOTE="battalionwars13"][QUOTE="67gt500"]

When Crysis launched the gaming world had to pick their collective jaws off the floor at how eye-blisteringly gorgeous the game was... yes, it required a beefy rig to run smoothly and in all of it glory, but it was undeniably the pinnacle of gaming graphics, on any platform.

Then, it's stellar follow-up Crysis Warhead released again to oohs and ahhhs from the gaming community featuring an equally outstanding level of visual fidelity.

Yet, the best that PC could muster wasn't enough to clinch the [graphics] prize from the venerable console game Metal Gear Solid 4. There is much wailing and gnashing of teeth, but the critics have spoken, our peers have voted, and MGS4 is victorious.

But there is good news for PC gamers, after all is said and done - MGS4's victory over Crysis Warhead might inspire PC developers to pick up their game a bit and deliver something that can actually compete with console games with respect to technical graphics...

Maybe 2009 will see a 'return to glory' of sorts for PC, after this irrefutable defeat in 2008.

Thoughts?

Ive never played neither but ive watched videos of both and Crysis warhead looks way better. Gears 2 even looks better than MGS4.

MGS4 looks crap in screenshots and internet videos. It's the really small details that most people don't conciously realise that make the difference. Like when you're walking in the rain, some of the drops will remain on the camera lense. When Snake walks out of an explosion or somethign that disturbed a lot of dust, you can see it settle again on other places like floors, walls, and again even the camera. It's just attention to those tiny details, that you can only understand if you're playing the game, right there and then that make it different. Yes, Crysis has better textures and poly-counts and whatnot, but Crysis failed to get me to care if nomad actually died. Sure it looked stunning and all, but the graphics didn't really serve much of a purpose in the actual game itself apart from looking pretty (Which isn't bad, games should look nice) In Metal Gear Solid 4 however, those tiny little details like Snake's facial expressions, the way he moved and it's authenticity, it helps you associate with him. It gives you a feeling of immersion. Crysis has immersion, yes. But not to that level. I don't deny that Crysis LOOKS better, but the reason I think MGS4 has been winning those graphics awards on more than one site is because it shows that graphics in a game can sevre for more of a purpose than just looking shiny.
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[QUOTE="ermacness"]even though i'm a ps3 defender, i can't and won't stand by this ridiculous thread67gt500
it's not ridiculous - it's a fact... around here MGS4 >>>>>> Crysis Warhead... end-of-story... the best that PC had this year wasn't good enough to topple a console contemporary in the graphics category... I'm not making this stuff up...

Its not a fact. its opinions.
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#36 Leo-Magic
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[QUOTE="ermacness"]even though i'm a ps3 defender, i can't and won't stand by this ridiculous thread67gt500
it's not ridiculous - it's a fact... around here MGS4 >>>>>> Crysis Warhead... end-of-story... the best that PC had this year wasn't good enough to topple a console contemporary in the graphics category... I'm not making this stuff up...

its a fact that your thread here is useless.
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#37 KrazyKenKutarag
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[QUOTE="ermacness"]even though i'm a ps3 defender, i can't and won't stand by this ridiculous thread67gt500
it's not ridiculous - it's a fact... around here MGS4 >>>>>> Crysis Warhead... end-of-story... the best that PC had this year wasn't good enough to topple a console contemporary in the graphics category... I'm not making this stuff up...

Your trying too hard, it's getting pretty sad now. Professional trolls are far more subtle. Yes, there are professional trolls.

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#38 hfgjhgjghjghjgh
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i hate gamespy for buying out www.mplayer.com

and shutting down the service that's the dumbest crap ever i wish they kept it up.

but they know more what they talking about than gamespot lol

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#40 67gt500
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[QUOTE="mattbbpl"][QUOTE="67gt500"][QUOTE="PS3_3DO"]

There are better PC games then MGS4. Face it the PC has better graphics. Next year Empire Total War, Alan Wake, are going to blow away the PS3 graphics.

True, next year PC has a chance to redeem itself around here, if it can match the graphics fidelity of console games like MGS4...

I think I'm going to be sick...

I would barf too, if I had spent as much money beefing up my rig as some people have around here (to behold Crysis in all of its glory), only to have it trounced by a game that runs on a $400 console...
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#41 StealthSting
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Considering that I was disappointed by MGS4 graphically, while at the same time finding the very same to be one of its biggest highlights, I have to say no. The character models were pretty good, the environments? Not so much imo. Act 3 was horribly bland, with decent lighting here and there. The first act was pretty good. The second act, wasn't anything special in a lot of areas, though there were some fine texture work in some buildings and the water effects weren't all bad. Act 4 and 5 were so so. Though I'm sure others would either disagree entirely, or in the order given. Good looking game imo? Sure. Blown way out of proportion by critics and fans alike imo? Sure.

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#42 tek91
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MGS 4 is by far the superior game the people have spoken and I from playing to day experience how good it is.

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#43 Killfox
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I think im going to tag this thread and its title will be "Epic Fail for the Epic Troll." No Im not blind crysis looks better than MGS4. No joke to I had an eye doctor appointment yesterday and the doc said my eyes are fins 20/20. So I know im not blind and I know what looks better. I will say I do like MGS4 but not for its graphics.
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#44 lebanese_boy
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I believe Crysis Warhead has the better graphics on paper, but when you see MGS4 in motion in front of your eyes, it's hard to say that another game looks better. That's primarly what made this game win Best Graphics in so many sites.
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#45 Vandalvideo
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I believe Crysis Warhead has the better graphics on paper, but when you see MGS4 in motion in front of your eyes, it's hard to say that another game looks better. That's primarly what made this game win Best Graphics in so many sites.lebanese_boy
The award was 'best technical graphics'. On paper is really all that maters here.
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[QUOTE="mattbbpl"][QUOTE="67gt500"] True, next year PC has a chance to redeem itself around here, if it can match the graphics fidelity of console games like MGS4...67gt500
I think I'm going to be sick...

I would barf too, if I had spent as much money beefing up my rig as some people have around here (to behold Crysis in all of its glory), only to have it trounced by a game that runs on a $400 console...

Trolling is against the TOS. Reported.

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#47 AnnoyedDragon
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Just when I thought the consolites of System Wars couldn't become more ridicules.

Either the comments in this thread are a joke or I have severely overestimated the reasoning capability of some of the people in this section.

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#48 KrazyKenKutarag
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I believe Crysis Warhead has the better graphics on paper, but when you see MGS4 in motion in front of your eyes, it's hard to say that another game looks better. That's primarly what made this game win Best Graphics in so many sites.lebanese_boy

I have seen MGSIV in front of my eyes, and I can say with confidence that Crysis Warhead looks much better. MGSIV is still a better game, in my opinion.

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#49 fluxorator
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[QUOTE="67gt500"][QUOTE="mattbbpl"] I think I'm going to be sick... steve17989
I would barf too, if I had spent as much money beefing up my rig as some people have around here (to behold Crysis in all of its glory), only to have it trounced by a game that runs on a $400 console...

Trolling is against the TOS. Reported.

I really don't see how that is trolling...
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#50 hfgjhgjghjghjgh
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gears of war 2 looks better than crysis or mgs4

http://www.gametrailers.com/player/42155.html