How can anyone play shooters on a controller?

aim assist. simple.

aim assist. simple.

supdotcom

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aim assist. simple.

almasdeathchild

Im confused. You are kidding right?

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aim assist. simple.

NaveedLife

Im confused. You are kidding right?

same here

i see myself as disabled when trying to play any kind of shooter or anything that requires manual aimwith a controller

aim assist. simple.

supdotcom

Aim assist isn't added to negate problems with the controls, it's there to assist players with less skill. In most games it can be turned off. I turn it off, as does everyone I know, because it makes you less accurate when you get better with the controller.

There are also games that just don't have aim assist, like KZ3. Perfectly playable without it.

I think it's easier to aim with a stick than a mouse, personally.

Speed is the only difference. Most console shooters don't have sensitivity that allows for split second 180s and whatnot. CoD is the only one I'm aware of that does, and at the highest setting it's still playable with a controller, very much so.

It takes much more skill, finess and coordination to be good with a controller... any fool can aim with a mouse.

RGDT021

Its actually the exact opposite, once you remove the clunk of the controller and get on the M/KB combo the true pros can then seperate themselves. The controller has a forced skillcap, the M/KB on the other hand, which is proven by gaming tournaments going waaaay back allow the top 1% of players to really show off skills otherwise unnatainable. You are saying an opinion based on your own experiences instead of listing facts.

I'm more into third person shooters and they work great with controllers. I only play first person shooters every once in a while so controllers are good enough for me.

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aim assist. simple.

almasdeathchild

All console shooters have aimbots, one of the reasons I prefer PC it takes more skill to aim on your own rather then leaving the game do it.

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aim assist. simple.

tenaka2

All console shooters have aimbots, one of the reasons I prefer PC it takes more skill to aim on your own rather then leaving the game do it.

No they don't. This must be something PC gamers tell themselves, and each other, to feel 1337.

Aim assist,huge hit boxes and whatnot.they might as well play the game for you.mouse is the king in fps.its not a preference thing,its a universal truthsickcrack

How can anyone play shooters on a controller?

The_Capitalist

It's easy.

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[QUOTE="almasdeathchild"]games still have aim assist? well this is news to me

Pug-Nasty

All console shooters have aimbots, one of the reasons I prefer PC it takes more skill to aim on your own rather then leaving the game do it.

No they don't. This must be something PC gamers tell themselves, and each other, to feel 1337.

Oh I didn't realise perhaps you could list some console shooters without aim assist and auto lock on features?

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All console shooters have aimbots, one of the reasons I prefer PC it takes more skill to aim on your own rather then leaving the game do it.

tenaka2

No they don't. This must be something PC gamers tell themselves, and each other, to feel 1337.

Oh I didn't realise perhaps you could list some console shooters without aim assist and auto lock on features?

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All console shooters have aimbots, one of the reasons I prefer PC it takes more skill to aim on your own rather then leaving the game do it.

tenaka2

No they don't. This must be something PC gamers tell themselves, and each other, to feel 1337.

Oh I didn't realise perhaps you could list some console shooters without aim assist and auto lock on features?

I actually prefer controllers instead mouse + keyboard for shooters.

It's just so boring, point your mouse at what you want to kill...left click...it dies
* yawn *

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No they don't. This must be something PC gamers tell themselves, and each other, to feel 1337.

Ravensmash

Oh I didn't realise perhaps you could list some console shooters without aim assist and auto lock on features?

So all those games do have aimbots built in and on by default, so I would be correct in saying that all console shooters have aim bots.

I prefer the trigger on the PS3 or 360 to shoot than the mouse for a PC, feels more natural (plus hearing click click click click gets annoying).

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Oh I didn't realise perhaps you could list some console shooters without aim assist and auto lock on features?

tenaka2

So all those games do have aimbots built in and on by default, so I would be correct in saying that all console shooters have aim bots.

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[QUOTE="Ravensmash"] Gears of War series, BFBC2 allows the player to turn off aim assist in both SP and MP, same with BF3 beta, Crysis 1, CS:GO (upcoming), Deus Ex has the option also. That's just off the top of my tired head.Ravensmash

So all those games do have aimbots built in and on by default, so I would be correct in saying that all console shooters have aim bots.

Choices are great, but its more skillful to aim for yourself rather then the game doing it for you, I don't see the appeal of playing shooting games where you don't have to aim.

Well some shooter don't make it on PC

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So all those games do have aimbots built in and on by default, so I would be correct in saying that all console shooters have aim bots.

tenaka2

Choices are great, but its more skillful to aim for yourself rather then the game doing it for you, I don't see the appeal of playing shooting games where you don't have to aim.

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[QUOTE="Ravensmash"] Gears of War isn't by default (at least I have never ever felt it online). But why does that matter? Don't PC gamers love to go on about choice and how having the option to do something is fantastic!Ravensmash

Choices are great, but its more skillful to aim for yourself rather then the game doing it for you, I don't see the appeal of playing shooting games where you don't have to aim.

They option may exist but why would you turn it off knowing your opponents are using auto aim? Would make multi player a little redundant. :|

If the game aims for you you obviously don't have to aim.

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Choices are great, but its more skillful to aim for yourself rather then the game doing it for you, I don't see the appeal of playing shooting games where you don't have to aim.

tenaka2

They option may exist but why would you turn it off knowing your opponents are using auto aim? Would make multi player a little redundant. :|

If the game aims for you you obviously don't have to aim.

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[QUOTE="Ravensmash"] Then turn it off if the option exists! :| You're forgetting that aim assist is used as a mechanism to get rid of the disadvantages of analogue sticks precision - I don't know how many console games you've played but it certainly doesn't mean you don't have to aim.Ravensmash

They option may exist but why would you turn it off knowing your opponents are using auto aim? Would make multi player a little redundant. :|

If the game aims for you you obviously don't have to aim.

That is ok, it isn't unfortunate, it's understandable.

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They option may exist but why would you turn it off knowing your opponents are using auto aim? Would make multi player a little redundant. :|

If the game aims for you you obviously don't have to aim.

tenaka2

That is ok, it isn't unfortunate, it's understandable.

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[QUOTE="Ravensmash"] I turned it off in BF3 beta and did absolutely fine - many kill streaks. And unfortunately I'm beginning to grow wary of your argument, considering you obviously think console shooters have some sort of GTA style lock on :|Ravensmash

That is ok, it isn't unfortunate, it's understandable.

All console shooters have auto aim, that is not a demonstration of bias or an argument against anything,it is a fact.

As for 'you can turn it off' is neither here nor there, all your opponents would have it on, my would anyone turn it off?

I am also growing wary of this, console shooters all have auto-aim features, that is really all there is to say.

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That is ok, it isn't unfortunate, it's understandable.

tenaka2

All console shooters have auto aim, that is not a demonstration of bias or an argument against anything,it is a fact.

As for 'you can turn it off' is neither here nor there, all your opponents would have it on, my would anyone turn it off?

I am also growing wary of this, console shooters all have auto-aim features, that is really all there is to say.

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[QUOTE="Ravensmash"] What is understandable? Are you admitting your own argument is flawed and clearly biased?Ravensmash

All console shooters have auto aim, that is not a demonstration of bias or an argument against anything,it is a fact.

As for 'you can turn it off' is neither here nor there, all your opponents would have it on, my would anyone turn it off?

I am also growing wary of this, console shooters all have auto-aim features, that is really all there is to say.

Gears Of War 3 will have shooter aim-assist - Gears Of War 3 blog

http://www.gearsofwar3blog.com/2011/07/23/gears-of-war-3-will-have-shooter-aim-assist-in-casual-mode/

Gears 3 does have auto aim.

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All console shooters have auto aim, that is not a demonstration of bias or an argument against anything,it is a fact.

As for 'you can turn it off' is neither here nor there, all your opponents would have it on, my would anyone turn it off?

I am also growing wary of this, console shooters all have auto-aim features, that is really all there is to say.

tenaka2

Gears Of War 3 will have shooter aim-assist - Gears Of War 3 blog

http://www.gearsofwar3blog.com/2011/07/23/gears-of-war-3-will-have-shooter-aim-assist-in-casual-mode/

Gears 3 does have auto aim.

They option may exist but why would you turn it off knowing your opponents are using auto aim? Would make multi player a little redundant. :|

If the game aims for you you obviously don't have to aim.

tenaka2

It is just a matter of getting used to ... however in my opinion it isnt as "natural" as keyboard and mouse.

the mouse is like your eyes in real life, you can glance anywhere very quickly and focus on what you want. Have a quick look around your room now, that is what using a mouse is actually like. You then have to make a split second decison on what to do. You have to think quick and react even quicker.

Whereas the controller is like operating a tank, you have to ponderously drag your view to what you want to see. You dont look around in combat if you dont have to because it is an effort do so. You are a bit handicapped with the controller which is why aim assist etc are so prevalent.

It's annoying, but it doesn't stop me from playing Halo Reach every now and then.

My only problem playing FPS on mah controller is the tiny screen - perhaps if they made giant controllers with bigger screens it would be better ? :twisted:

Anyhoo, I prefer the 360 controller > all other forms of controlling in game characters. :P

Another thing console games have is lock on. So you can "quick scope" alot.

It takes time to get used to a control scheme that you aren't familiar with, it's just a matter of how much you want to practice until you're comfortable.

Its easier to aim with a m/k.... For playing FPS on a gamepad you just need to get used to it, it wont ever be as precise, so you need to adjust, and play your games in a different manner. And no games dont have aim bots, so dont worry about that.

Yes, it's true, console gamers are more skilled because they can perform headshots with an analog stick...

:P

I'm so used to them it makes absolutely no difference.