GTA 4 on ps3, it actually is 720p?

http://forums.gametrailers.com/showthread.php?t=388602

Well that rumor was wrong...

Who the heck cares? Both the 360 and PS3 get, what is at this moment, the highest rated game of all time.

That alone should be enough. Why one side feels the urge to show how "superior" their version is over the most minute details is lost on me. Play the game, enjoy the game, and leave the pointless debates alone.

Who the heck cares? Both the 360 and PS3 get, what is at this moment, the highest rated game of all time.

That alone should be enough. Why one side feels the urge to show how "superior" their version is over the most minute details is lost on me. Play the game, enjoy the game, and leave the pointless debates alone.

SpruceCaboose

uh.....if their capturing the video via hardware, its gonna capture exacly whats desplayed on screen...which is upscaled 640p....

so that doesnt prove anything at all.

dont kill the messenger=| Im just happy the ps3 version which I own actually runs at hd, makes me feel better since I bought an hd tv, which is expensive..so yeah...

:lol: Lemmings are always trying to use rumours as ownage but end up being self-owned.EVOLV3

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Fixed.

There is no way. Just looking at the comparison videos and screenshots it's obvious. Anyone with half a brain can tell that the ps3 version runs at a lower resolution. There is a significant difference in sharpness between the 2. Just go to videogamer.com and look for the gta4 comparison and it's plain as day. It's pretty easy to spot the difference. Look at things like buildings in the backround and cars in the distance they're blurrier on the pa3. It's clear that it's a lower resolution than the 360 version.edwise18

I dont know, you could be right, but couldnt that also just be a blur effect?

who cares? both get 10 if the ps3 version were superior the 360 should score less but no. is the same game.liberty71441

That's what I said. Watching the video the games both looking exactly the same. The only difference I saw was slightly better lighting on the PS3 side and a tad brighter on the 360 side. Very minor stuff that doesn't really make either version superior to the other.

uh.....if their capturing the video via hardware, its gonna capture exacly whats desplayed on screen...which is upscaled 640p....

so that doesnt prove anything at all.

cobrax25

Read the actual article? They ran it at raw without PP, and ROCKSTAR said it.

[QUOTE="edwise18"]There is no way. Just looking at the comparison videos and screenshots it's obvious. Anyone with half a brain can tell that the ps3 version runs at a lower resolution. There is a significant difference in sharpness between the 2. Just go to videogamer.com and look for the gta4 comparison and it's plain as day. It's pretty easy to spot the difference. Look at things like buildings in the backround and cars in the distance they're blurrier on the pa3. It's clear that it's a lower resolution than the 360 version.nc_soldier

I dont know, you could be right, but couldnt that also just be a blur effect?

who cares.

even if it is 640p we all know. less pop in and a better framerate are more important then a slightly greater resalution

uh.....if their capturing the video via hardware, its gonna capture exacly whats desplayed on screen...which is upscaled 640p....

so that doesnt prove anything at all.

cobrax25

denail much? come on man, just drop it. So we are disregarding Rockstar's statements and a valid waebsite like gamesradar for a forum hobbiest? ok. Glad we left our common sense at home :?

[QUOTE="cobrax25"]

uh.....if their capturing the video via hardware, its gonna capture exacly whats desplayed on screen...which is upscaled 640p....

so that doesnt prove anything at all.

II_Seraphim_II

denail much? come on man, just drop it. So we are disregarding Rockstar's statements and a valid waebsite like gamesradar for a forum hobbiest? ok. Glad we left our common sense at home :?

you simply have no idea what they are talking about......

you cant capture video on consoles through software....you can only do it through hardware....thus capturing exacly what was displayed on the TV....if it really was 64op....it would be upscaled to 720p on the TV....and thus be captured as 720p....this article doesnt prove anything....you could do the same to Halo 3....any captured screenshot of the game will have a size of 720p...but Halo 3 was confirmed a while ago to be running bellow that by bunge.....and BTW.....since your calling these guys forum hobbiests....you should know that this comment was made by the same person who found that Halo 3 was running sub-HD....which was confimred later.

[QUOTE="nc_soldier"]

[QUOTE="edwise18"]There is no way. Just looking at the comparison videos and screenshots it's obvious. Anyone with half a brain can tell that the ps3 version runs at a lower resolution. There is a significant difference in sharpness between the 2. Just go to videogamer.com and look for the gta4 comparison and it's plain as day. It's pretty easy to spot the difference. Look at things like buildings in the backround and cars in the distance they're blurrier on the pa3. It's clear that it's a lower resolution than the 360 version.edwise18

I dont know, you could be right, but couldnt that also just be a blur effect?

[QUOTE="II_Seraphim_II"][QUOTE="cobrax25"]

uh.....if their capturing the video via hardware, its gonna capture exacly whats desplayed on screen...which is upscaled 640p....

so that doesnt prove anything at all.

cobrax25

denail much? come on man, just drop it. So we are disregarding Rockstar's statements and a valid waebsite like gamesradar for a forum hobbiest? ok. Glad we left our common sense at home :?

you simply have no idea what they are talking about......

you cant capture video on consoles through software....you can only do it through hardware....thus capturing exacly what was displayed on the TV....if it really was 64op....it would be upscaled to 720p on the TV....and thus be captured as 720p....this article doesnt prove anything....you could do the same to Halo 3....any captured screenshot of the game will have a size of 720p...but Halo 3 was confirmed a while ago to be running bellow that by bunge.....and BTW.....since your calling these guys forum hobbiests....you should know that this comment was made by the same person who found that Halo 3 was running sub-HD....which was confimred later.

Actually, yes you can bypass the TV output on the consoles. You can actually directly grab the frame buffer if you have the right setup. I don't know if that's what they did here, but it possible to bypass the scalers completely with the right setup.

well if the ps3 version is worse with the problems with gta then the 360 is worse with the RROD right?bayareahusla

Both have problems, PS3 has extra problems with PSN though.

[QUOTE="bayareahusla"]well if the ps3 version is worse with the problems with gta then the 360 is worse with the RROD right?Pietrooper

Both have problems, PS3 has extra problems with PSN though.

this online age is a dual-edged blade. Its good because these problems can be fixed via a downloadable patch, but at the same time Devs dont feel the need to bring out fully finished games. :(

[QUOTE="Pietrooper"]

[QUOTE="bayareahusla"]well if the ps3 version is worse with the problems with gta then the 360 is worse with the RROD right?II_Seraphim_II

Both have problems, PS3 has extra problems with PSN though.

this online age is a dual-edged blade. Its good because these problems can be fixed via a downloadable patch, but at the same time Devs dont feel the need to bring out fully finished games. :(

Also, RockStar has come out with a hackneyed solution for PS3 freezing. 360 freezing? Not yet.

"Excuse the bluntness, but you have no clue what you are talking about. I have an HD capture card. Let me break it down for you.

They captured in 720p. The PS3 outputs GTA IV in 720P after it upscales from 640p. When I capture Halo 3 footage, guess what resolution I capture in? Gee whiz, 720p! That must mean it's native 720p right? Wrong.

There is no way to bypass the upscale being done and capture "raw" footage. The method used to determine native resolution is a simple mathematical formula, not a guessing game. 640p is fact.

But who cares? Just go play the game and enjoy it."

Thank you. This guy says it about the best.

wow peoplein here are really clueless when it comes to hd and upscaling, they captured the it in 720p but the ps3 only outputs 720p after its been upscaled from 640p. Halo 3 does the same thing when you capture the hd footage it says 720p but thats because its been upscaledParadiddleFill

RockStar and Gamesradar admits they're both 720p.

Bungie said that Halo 3 wasn't unpscaled. I guess you don't trust RockStar then :|

There is no way. Just looking at the comparison videos and screenshots it's obvious. Anyone with half a brain can tell that the ps3 version runs at a lower resolution. There is a significant difference in sharpness between the 2. Just go to videogamer.com and look for the gta4 comparison and it's plain as day. It's pretty easy to spot the difference. Look at things like buildings in the backround and cars in the distance they're blurrier on the ps3. It's clear that it's running at a lower resolution than the 360 version.edwise18

Lol, keep on with your mission brother, keep on!

[QUOTE="ParadiddleFill"]wow peoplein here are really clueless when it comes to hd and upscaling, they captured the it in 720p but the ps3 only outputs 720p after its been upscaled from 640p. Halo 3 does the same thing when you capture the hd footage it says 720p but thats because its been upscaledPietrooper

RockStar and Gamesradar admits they're both 720p.

Bungie said that Halo 3 wasn't unpscaled. I guess you don't trust RockStar then :|

thats because 720p is what is displayed on screen....you really dont understand how this works at all.

and what the developer says doesnt matter at all...it took bungie a month to admit that it didnt run in 720p...no developer has ever admited to it at the games release...and only one admited to it after...and that was the first case ever....

what the developer says it this case is irrelevent.

wow link to a forum, nothing to back it up on said link and cows immediately start bashing everyone for "making stuff up". Once again the power of irony utterly lost on cows.blue_hazy_basic

Did you..check the links?

[QUOTE="blue_hazy_basic"]wow link to a forum, nothing to back it up on said link and cows immediately start bashing everyone for "making stuff up". Once again the power of irony utterly lost on cows.Pietrooper

Did you..check the links?

Here is the TC's "proof"

http://www.gamesradar.com/xbox360/grand-theft-auto-iv/news/gta-iv-360-vs-ps3/a-2008042812150303074/g-2006051014323586065

"We've played both console versions of GTA IV, and took the following video from the opening scene. We captured the raw video in uncompressed 720p, with no post-processing to either stream. Shown side-by-side, it's quite difficult to tell the difference between the two versions. Only a highly trained eye can see the subtle shifts in color, the minor variations in shadow detail. Our conclusion: buy the one for the console you own. If you're lucky enough to have both in your living room, your decision will have to be based on whether or not you want to pay Microsoft for Extra Content. The barely perceptible difference will have zero impact on your enjoyment of the game."

wow link to a forum, nothing to back it up on said link and cows immediately start bashing everyone for "making stuff up". Once again the power of irony utterly lost on cows.blue_hazy_basic

The whole 640p rumor came from a forum and lemmings ran with it. What's your point?

Rockstar, the dev said it's 720p native, but yet you want to believe a forum.

wow peoplein here are really clueless when it comes to hd and upscaling, they captured the it in 720p but the ps3 only outputs 720p after its been upscaled from 640p. Halo 3 does the same thing when you capture the hd footage it says 720p but thats because its been upscaledParadiddleFill

fine than lemming, I guess then I can say that GTA4 360 runs @ 420p since it's looks slightly worse than the PS3 version and has more pop-in and jags. The 360 outputs 720p after it's been upscaled from 420p.

Rockstar (the people who made the damed game) said it's native 720p...DISCUSSION OVER!! lol @ lemmings still trying to argue it's 640p from a using a freking internet fourm for their source.

[QUOTE="blue_hazy_basic"]wow link to a forum, nothing to back it up on said link and cows immediately start bashing everyone for "making stuff up". Once again the power of irony utterly lost on cows.Chutebox

The whole 640p rumor came from a forum and lemmings ran with it. What's your point?

Rockstar, the dev said it's 720p native, but yet you want to believe a forum.

[QUOTE="blue_hazy_basic"]wow link to a forum, nothing to back it up on said link and cows immediately start bashing everyone for "making stuff up". Once again the power of irony utterly lost on cows.Chutebox

The whole 640p rumor came from a forum and lemmings ran with it. What's your point?

Rockstar, the dev said it's 720p native, but yet you want to believe a forum.

and? Bungie said Halo 3 ran in native 720p for a while too....

no developer has ever said their game ran below 720p :lol: that would just be stupid PR.

[QUOTE="Chutebox"]

[QUOTE="blue_hazy_basic"]wow link to a forum, nothing to back it up on said link and cows immediately start bashing everyone for "making stuff up". Once again the power of irony utterly lost on cows.blue_hazy_basic

The whole 640p rumor came from a forum and lemmings ran with it. What's your point?

Rockstar, the dev said it's 720p native, but yet you want to believe a forum.

Well I did put a "?" on there too, maybe you missed it?

[QUOTE="Chutebox"]

[QUOTE="blue_hazy_basic"]wow link to a forum, nothing to back it up on said link and cows immediately start bashing everyone for "making stuff up". Once again the power of irony utterly lost on cows.blue_hazy_basic

The whole 640p rumor came from a forum and lemmings ran with it. What's your point?

Rockstar, the dev said it's 720p native, but yet you want to believe a forum.

Ah, gotcha. Until Rockstar says anything, I'm not going to believe or care if it runs at anythings else. Still a good looking game.

[QUOTE="blue_hazy_basic"][QUOTE="Chutebox"]

[QUOTE="blue_hazy_basic"]wow link to a forum, nothing to back it up on said link and cows immediately start bashing everyone for "making stuff up". Once again the power of irony utterly lost on cows.nc_soldier

The whole 640p rumor came from a forum and lemmings ran with it. What's your point?

Rockstar, the dev said it's 720p native, but yet you want to believe a forum.

Well I did put a "?" on there too, maybe you missed it?

[QUOTE="Chutebox"]

[QUOTE="blue_hazy_basic"]wow link to a forum, nothing to back it up on said link and cows immediately start bashing everyone for "making stuff up". Once again the power of irony utterly lost on cows.cobrax25

The whole 640p rumor came from a forum and lemmings ran with it. What's your point?

Rockstar, the dev said it's 720p native, but yet you want to believe a forum.

and? Bungie said Halo 3 ran in native 720p for a while too....

no developer has ever said their game ran below 720p :lol: that would just be stupid PR.

If I remember correctly, Bungie came out with that within two weeks. Don't remember though.

[QUOTE="blue_hazy_basic"][QUOTE="Chutebox"]

[QUOTE="blue_hazy_basic"]wow link to a forum, nothing to back it up on said link and cows immediately start bashing everyone for "making stuff up". Once again the power of irony utterly lost on cows.Chutebox

The whole 640p rumor came from a forum and lemmings ran with it. What's your point?

Rockstar, the dev said it's 720p native, but yet you want to believe a forum.

Ah, gotcha. Until Rockstar says anything, I'm not going to believe or care if it runs at anythings else. Still a good looking game.

[QUOTE="blue_hazy_basic"][QUOTE="Chutebox"]

[QUOTE="blue_hazy_basic"]wow link to a forum, nothing to back it up on said link and cows immediately start bashing everyone for "making stuff up". Once again the power of irony utterly lost on cows.Chutebox

The whole 640p rumor came from a forum and lemmings ran with it. What's your point?

Rockstar, the dev said it's 720p native, but yet you want to believe a forum.

Ah, gotcha. Until Rockstar says anything, I'm not going to believe or care if it runs at anythings else. Still a good looking game.

Rockstar will never say anything...its just bad PR.

but its reasonable to assume that those people at beyond3d are right....seeing as how they were the same people (same person actually) to uncover that Halo 3 ran at bellow HD...and since than, have a huge list of non HD console games.

what the hell the people are talking about the game on the ps3 is 640p native.hungryheart077

That has been proven WRONG. Stop relying on old scorces and no0bs on internet forums as the basis for your arguments and maybe you'll learn someting.

Rockstar's word on GTA4 on PS3 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>whatever BS source you're trying to pass of as a fact from other fanboys like you.