First Person Shooters... Who wins?

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#1 Newnab
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Which one of these will be the best FPS? (I took what I considered to be the most anticipated FPS from each system)

Halo 3

Crysis

Killzone 2

Metroid Prime 3


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#2 smokeydabear076
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I am going with Crysis because it is not a 2 or a 3, but something new.
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You'd have to pick Halo 3 in my mind because it's past games ahve already prooved themselves (o god there should be  a spell check on here)
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Crysis shouldn't be up there yet. It's not a proven formula for success. Halo and Metroid are the only two that should be compared right now (because Killzone wasn't exactly a blockbuster). I'm going with Halo because of my interests (Bungie, Marathon, the lore surrounding the series, etc...). But I would love a Wii so I could play Metroid Prime 3. The first two were excellent :)
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#5 Hexum-311
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Crysis.  None of those other games are even in the same league as far as originality.
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Crysis. Why is Killzone 2 on that list the first was mediocre at best and this one will suffer the same fate.
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I getting all four but look at my avatar go figure...
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#8 ithilgore2006
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"Metroid on the Wii"? Surely it's not that hard to say Metroid Prime 3?
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Metroid simply because the Wiimote is the best thing since K+M.
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#10 web966
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Halo 3. Metroid isnt a FPS
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#11 Newnab
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"Metroid on the Wii"? Surely it's not that hard to say Metroid Prime 3?
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I didn't know it's exact name and didn't want to anger Wii fans by getting it wrong. I'll edit it now.
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#12 Newnab
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Crysis. Why is Killzone 2 on that list the first was mediocre at best and this one will suffer the same fate.Aljosa23
It's up there because it's the most anticipated PS3 FPS.
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#13 foxhound_fox
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1) Metorid Prime 3: Corruption is NOT a FPS.
2) PC has always been the king of FPS...
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[QUOTE="musicalmac"]Crysis shouldn't be up there yet. It's not a proven formula for success. Halo and Metroid are the only two that should be compared right now (because Killzone wasn't exactly a blockbuster). I'm going with Halo because of my interests (Bungie, Marathon, the lore surrounding the series, etc...). But I would love a Wii so I could play Metroid Prime 3. The first two were excellent :)

How is it not a proven formula for success? Far Cry wast good? Unlike Bungie, Crytek has shown us gameplay, Crytek has shown us they can do stuff with technology and gameplay, something bungie has yet to do. And MP was boring as hell, for a shooter.
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#15 coolguy1111
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[QUOTE="Aljosa23"]Crysis. Why is Killzone 2 on that list the first was mediocre at best and this one will suffer the same fate.Newnab
It's up there because it's the most anticipated PS3 FPS.

And Killzone had some good things for it, it really was limited by the ps2.
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[QUOTE="Aljosa23"]Crysis. Why is Killzone 2 on that list the first was mediocre at best and this one will suffer the same fate.Newnab
It's up there because it's the most anticipated PS3 FPS.


which is quite funny :lol: !
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Quake wars: ET.
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#18 Newnab
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Crysis. None of those other games are even in the same league as far as originality.Hexum-311
No offense... But Crysis doesn't look terribly original to me. At all. It looks like Far Cry with very mild Crackdown-ish powers or Deus Ex: Invisible War powers. I'm not saying that's exactly what it's going to be, but from all we know about the games so far, I don't think it's fair to say Crysis is in a different league in terms of original ideas for FPS.
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#19 musicalmac  Moderator
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1) Metorid Prime 3: Corruption is NOT a FPS.
2) PC has always been the king of FPS...
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Saying computers rule the FPS world is a bit misleading... The controls are better (I agree, played FPS games all the time on my comp).
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Nintendo itself doesn't even consider the Metroid Prime series to be FPS's... Besides, the previous two gamers have been pathetic as shooters (see: the game's shooting is based on autoaim). They really are adventure games. I'd say Halo 3 has most entertaining game in the bag, Crysis has best looking, and Killzone has most underwhelming and overhyped.
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[QUOTE="musicalmac"]Crysis shouldn't be up there yet. It's not a proven formula for success. Halo and Metroid are the only two that should be compared right now (because Killzone wasn't exactly a blockbuster). I'm going with Halo because of my interests (Bungie, Marathon, the lore surrounding the series, etc...). But I would love a Wii so I could play Metroid Prime 3. The first two were excellent :)coolguy1111
How is it not a proven formula for success? Far Cry wast good? Unlike Bungie, Crytek has shown us gameplay, Crytek has shown us they can do stuff with technology and gameplay, something bungie has yet to do. And MP was boring as hell, for a shooter.

Halo's MP was boring? Ok...

Anyway, Im going to have to go with Halo 3. With Crysis coming in a close second. The only reason Crysis is second is because it has not proved itself yet.

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[QUOTE="coolguy1111"][QUOTE="musicalmac"]Crysis shouldn't be up there yet. It's not a proven formula for success. Halo and Metroid are the only two that should be compared right now (because Killzone wasn't exactly a blockbuster). I'm going with Halo because of my interests (Bungie, Marathon, the lore surrounding the series, etc...). But I would love a Wii so I could play Metroid Prime 3. The first two were excellent :)TaCoDuDe

How is it not a proven formula for success? Far Cry wast good? Unlike Bungie, Crytek has shown us gameplay, Crytek has shown us they can do stuff with technology and gameplay, something bungie has yet to do. And MP was boring as hell, for a shooter.

Halo's MP was boring? Ok...

Anyway, Im going to have to go with Halo 3. With Crysis coming in a close second. The only reason Crysis is second is because it has not proved itself yet.

No metroid prime was boring.
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Perhaps also, someone would care to explain to me... How is a first person game where you shoot stuff not a First Person Shooter? Maybe I've made some terrible error of judgment, but I'd like to have that explained to me...
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[QUOTE="Newnab"][QUOTE="Aljosa23"]Crysis. Why is Killzone 2 on that list the first was mediocre at best and this one will suffer the same fate.Prid3r
It's up there because it's the most anticipated PS3 FPS.


which is quite funny :lol: !

How? How do you know the game will be good? I find it funny lemmings think Halo2s multiplayer was awesome.
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#25 Spartan070
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1) Metorid Prime 3: Corruption is NOT a FPS.
2) PC has always been the king of FPS...
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We aren't comparing the PC FPS library with the console FPS library, we're comparing 4 games. If you mean Crysis, just say so.
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[QUOTE="Newnab"]Perhaps also, someone would care to explain to me... How is a first person game where you shoot stuff not a First Person Shooter? Maybe I've made some terrible error of judgment, but I'd like to have that explained to me...

Its a bad fps, so sheep try to cover it up and say its an adventure game.
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The most popular-Halo 3

The best looking-Crysis

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[QUOTE="coolguy1111"][QUOTE="musicalmac"]Crysis shouldn't be up there yet. It's not a proven formula for success. Halo and Metroid are the only two that should be compared right now (because Killzone wasn't exactly a blockbuster). I'm going with Halo because of my interests (Bungie, Marathon, the lore surrounding the series, etc...). But I would love a Wii so I could play Metroid Prime 3. The first two were excellent :)

How is it not a proven formula for success? Far Cry wast good? Unlike Bungie, Crytek has shown us gameplay, Crytek has shown us they can do stuff with technology and gameplay, something bungie has yet to do. And MP was boring as hell, for a shooter.

Everything you just said was opinion. We don't know how good Crysis will be. Bungie has done more for the FPS genre than Crytek, by leaps and bounds. How long has Crytek been around? When did they release their first game? Crysis is not proven.
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#29 smokeydabear076
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[QUOTE="Hexum-311"]Crysis. None of those other games are even in the same league as far as originality.Newnab
No offense... But Crysis doesn't look terribly original to me. At all. It looks like Far Cry with very mild Crackdown-ish powers or Deus Ex: Invisible War powers. I'm not saying that's exactly what it's going to be, but from all we know about the games so far, I don't think it's fair to say Crysis is in a different league in terms of original ideas for FPS.

Deus Ex Invisible War was horrible. Anyway Crysis is in a different league in terms of ideas when compared to these games because it is a new universe.
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Metroid Prime 3 shouldn't be up there.It's a FPA,not a FPS.
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[QUOTE="coolguy1111"] How is it not a proven formula for success? Far Cry wast good? Unlike Bungie, Crytek has shown us gameplay, Crytek has shown us they can do stuff with technology and gameplay, something bungie has yet to do. And MP was boring as hell, for a shooter.

Did you use the Halo disks as coasters or something? They actually do play a very fun FPSs when you stick them in your XBOX...
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[QUOTE="Newnab"][QUOTE="Aljosa23"]Crysis. Why is Killzone 2 on that list the first was mediocre at best and this one will suffer the same fate.Prid3r
It's up there because it's the most anticipated PS3 FPS.


which is quite funny :lol: !

Well atleast our Bioshock has some competition :P
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[QUOTE="Newnab"]Perhaps also, someone would care to explain to me... How is a first person game where you shoot stuff not a First Person Shooter? Maybe I've made some terrible error of judgment, but I'd like to have that explained to me...

Because the focus is on exploration and not shooting.
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[QUOTE="Prid3r"][QUOTE="Newnab"][QUOTE="Aljosa23"]Crysis. Why is Killzone 2 on that list the first was mediocre at best and this one will suffer the same fate.coolguy1111
It's up there because it's the most anticipated PS3 FPS.


which is quite funny :lol: !

How? How do you know the game will be good? I find it funny lemmings think Halo2s multiplayer was awesome.

It must be awesome. It got millions of people to pay $50/year for XBL.
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1) Metorid Prime 3: Corruption is NOT a FPS.
2) PC has always been the king of FPS...
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true, but it does use FPS controls. and yeah, PC wins.
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[QUOTE="Newnab"]Perhaps also, someone would care to explain to me... How is a first person game where you shoot stuff not a First Person Shooter? Maybe I've made some terrible error of judgment, but I'd like to have that explained to me... coolguy1111
Its a bad fps, so sheep try to cover it up and say its an adventure game.

lol
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Crysis, because it's something new and definitely the best looking out of the 4. Halo 3 in a close second because Halo and Halo 2 have proven to be fun multiplayer games. Then Metroid for its past amazing puzzles. Finally, Killzone 2 because there's virtually no info on it.
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[QUOTE="foxhound_fox"]1) Metorid Prime 3: Corruption is NOT a FPS.
2) PC has always been the king of FPS...
Spartan070
We aren't comparing the PC FPS library with the console FPS library, we're comparing 4 games. If you mean Crysis, just say so.

We are comparing first person shooters and a lot of people here say that MP is not a FPS.
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[QUOTE="coolguy1111"][QUOTE="Newnab"]Perhaps also, someone would care to explain to me... How is a first person game where you shoot stuff not a First Person Shooter? Maybe I've made some terrible error of judgment, but I'd like to have that explained to me...

Its a bad fps, so sheep try to cover it up and say its an adventure game.

9.7, GOTY. Yeah, its a really bad game. :roll:
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[QUOTE="Newnab"][QUOTE="Hexum-311"]Crysis. None of those other games are even in the same league as far as originality.smokeydabear076
No offense... But Crysis doesn't look terribly original to me. At all. It looks like Far Cry with very mild Crackdown-ish powers or Deus Ex: Invisible War powers. I'm not saying that's exactly what it's going to be, but from all we know about the games so far, I don't think it's fair to say Crysis is in a different league in terms of original ideas for FPS.

Deus Ex Invisible War was horrible. Anyway Crysis is in a different league in terms of ideas when compared to these games because it is a new universe.

It's fair to say that you're most interested in it because it's a new universe, but I personally felt to brand all the other three as way below it in terms of original FPS ideas (Which is how I took the statement, perhaps it's an error of mine) was unjust.
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[QUOTE="AfterShafter"][QUOTE="coolguy1111"] How is it not a proven formula for success? Far Cry wast good? Unlike Bungie, Crytek has shown us gameplay, Crytek has shown us they can do stuff with technology and gameplay, something bungie has yet to do. And MP was boring as hell, for a shooter.

Did you use the Halo disks as coasters or something? They actually do play a very fun FPSs when you stick them in your XBOX...

So youll be fine if Halo3 is the smae as Halo1 and 2?
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[QUOTE="Hexum-311"]Crysis. None of those other games are even in the same league as far as originality.Newnab
No offense... But Crysis doesn't look terribly original to me. At all. It looks like Far Cry with very mild Crackdown-ish powers or Deus Ex: Invisible War powers. I'm not saying that's exactly what it's going to be, but from all we know about the games so far, I don't think it's fair to say Crysis is in a different league in terms of original ideas for FPS.

Yeah, and the Halo series is just full of originality. :roll:

Anyway, Crysis.
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[QUOTE="web966"][QUOTE="coolguy1111"][QUOTE="Newnab"]Perhaps also, someone would care to explain to me... How is a first person game where you shoot stuff not a First Person Shooter? Maybe I've made some terrible error of judgment, but I'd like to have that explained to me...

Its a bad fps, so sheep try to cover it up and say its an adventure game.

9.7, GOTY. Yeah, its a really bad game. :roll:

Its a abd FPS. And yea any half decent game will get a 9.7 on the gamecube :lol:
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Lets just get this straight, also. Metroid Prime is a first person game. You shoot things. It is a first person shooter. It has adventure game elements no doubt, and perhaps is even a hybrid genre of FPS/Adventure. But it IS a first person game, you DO shoot things, and therefore fully classifies as a first person shooter.
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[QUOTE="coolguy1111"][QUOTE="AfterShafter"][QUOTE="coolguy1111"] How is it not a proven formula for success? Far Cry wast good? Unlike Bungie, Crytek has shown us gameplay, Crytek has shown us they can do stuff with technology and gameplay, something bungie has yet to do. And MP was boring as hell, for a shooter.

Did you use the Halo disks as coasters or something? They actually do play a very fun FPSs when you stick them in your XBOX...

So youll be fine if Halo3 is the smae as Halo1 and 2?

I'll be fine if I have as much fun with 3 as I have had with 1 and 2... And that was a lot. I expect the series to change a bit, but I don't expect them to reinvent the wheel, or fix what ain't broken.
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[QUOTE="coolguy1111"][QUOTE="AfterShafter"][QUOTE="coolguy1111"] How is it not a proven formula for success? Far Cry wast good? Unlike Bungie, Crytek has shown us gameplay, Crytek has shown us they can do stuff with technology and gameplay, something bungie has yet to do. And MP was boring as hell, for a shooter.

Did you use the Halo disks as coasters or something? They actually do play a very fun FPSs when you stick them in your XBOX...

So youll be fine if Halo3 is the smae as Halo1 and 2?

Actually yes, I'd be fine with different or the same. I trust Bungies decisions.
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[QUOTE="coolguy1111"][QUOTE="AfterShafter"][QUOTE="coolguy1111"] How is it not a proven formula for success? Far Cry wast good? Unlike Bungie, Crytek has shown us gameplay, Crytek has shown us they can do stuff with technology and gameplay, something bungie has yet to do. And MP was boring as hell, for a shooter.

Did you use the Halo disks as coasters or something? They actually do play a very fun FPSs when you stick them in your XBOX...

So youll be fine if Halo3 is the smae as Halo1 and 2?

You have yet to make any sort of worth-while point.
[QUOTE="Newnab"][QUOTE="Hexum-311"]Crysis. None of those other games are even in the same league as far as originality.AlbertE-
No offense... But Crysis doesn't look terribly original to me. At all. It looks like Far Cry with very mild Crackdown-ish powers or Deus Ex: Invisible War powers. I'm not saying that's exactly what it's going to be, but from all we know about the games so far, I don't think it's fair to say Crysis is in a different league in terms of original ideas for FPS.

Yeah, and the Halo series is just full of originality. :roll:

Anyway, Crysis.

And does Originality = AAA? Execution is what really matters. Gears of War isn't the most original game, but the mechanics made it enjoyable to the last drop. Halo has proven mechanics, and a huge storyline (...huge). We haven't seen either of those from Crysis, because it's not been released to prove itself yet.
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#49 AfterShafter
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[QUOTE="Newnab"]Lets just get this straight, also. Metroid Prime is a first person game. You shoot things. It is a first person shooter. It has adventure game elements no doubt, and perhaps is even a hybrid genre of FPS/Adventure. But it IS a first person game, you DO shoot things, and therefore fully classifies as a first person shooter.

You know, by the standard you just gave, Oblivion and Morrowind are FPS's. Why not throw Oblivion into the mix? It's really good too :p
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#50 OhhSnap50893
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Metroid Prime 3, thanks to motion sensing.