First Person Shooters... Who wins?

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#201 Donkey_Puncher
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[QUOTE="AfterShafter"][QUOTE="baddog121390"]It still doesn't change the fact that Crysis will be better.
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By what standard? What if more people enjoy Halo 3 than Crysis? What if more people find Halo 3 fun than find Cysis fun?

What if, eh? Compared to other games, many people who have played some demos of Crysis, say that Crysis feels like play, while other games feel like work. For actual superiority, check my sig ('tis a bit old, but still has some good stuff in there).

Why can't you just drop the fanboyism and enjoy both. 

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[QUOTE="baddog121390"][QUOTE="AfterShafter"][QUOTE="baddog121390"]It still doesn't change the fact that Crysis will be better.
Donkey_Puncher

By what standard? What if more people enjoy Halo 3 than Crysis? What if more people find Halo 3 fun than find Cysis fun?

What if, eh? Compared to other games, many people who have played some demos of Crysis, say that Crysis feels like play, while other games feel like work. For actual superiority, check my sig ('tis a bit old, but still has some good stuff in there).

Why can't you just drop the fanboyism and enjoy both.


" First Person Shooters... Who wins?"
Thats the Thread Title.
There can only be 1 winner.
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#203 Vandalvideo
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[QUOTE="baddog121390"][QUOTE="AfterShafter"][QUOTE="baddog121390"]It still doesn't change the fact that Crysis will be better.
Donkey_Puncher

By what standard? What if more people enjoy Halo 3 than Crysis? What if more people find Halo 3 fun than find Cysis fun?

What if, eh? Compared to other games, many people who have played some demos of Crysis, say that Crysis feels like play, while other games feel like work. For actual superiority, check my sig ('tis a bit old, but still has some good stuff in there).

Why can't you just drop the fanboyism and enjoy both. 

Because his posts are in direct response to a console fanboy proclaiming Halo is better. The hermit creed is "Thou shalt not own unless owned upon"....then own them hard.
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[QUOTE="baddog121390"][QUOTE="AfterShafter"][QUOTE="baddog121390"]It still doesn't change the fact that Crysis will be better.
Donkey_Puncher

By what standard? What if more people enjoy Halo 3 than Crysis? What if more people find Halo 3 fun than find Cysis fun?

What if, eh? Compared to other games, many people who have played some demos of Crysis, say that Crysis feels like play, while other games feel like work. For actual superiority, check my sig ('tis a bit old, but still has some good stuff in there).

Why can't you just drop the fanboyism and enjoy both.

What fanboyism? How can I be a fanboy of an unproven franchise? Im only hyping it because of the stuff it's going to do on its own - its no sequel. And enjoy both I will, but Crysis is going to be better. Every new major PC FPS exclusive turns out to be the best of its genre. There is no way a sequel of another seqeul, on a console, be better than a brand new FPS IP on the PC.


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Because his posts are in direct response to a console fanboy proclaiming Halo is better. The hermit creed is "Thou shalt not own unless owned upon"....then own them hard.Vandalvideo

Ahhh, I see.  Well let the ownage commence.  Hermits ftw!

.....but I do like the Halo series though.:cry:

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Wow.. not even one of those games are out yet...
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#207 Donkey_Puncher
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What fanboyism? How can I be a fanboy of an unproven franchise? Im only hyping it because of the stuff it's going to do on its own - its no sequel. And enjoy both I will, but Crysis is going to be better.
baddog121390

I was commenting on the flame fest going back and forth with Crysis>>>>Halo 3.   or Halo 3>>>>>Crysis. 

Both games are gonna be great, but the core gameplay will be different with both of them too.

Doesn't matter though, I'll play and love both.  You'd be wise to do the same. 

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[QUOTE="AfterShafter"][QUOTE="baddog121390"]It still doesn't change the fact that Crysis will be better.
baddog121390
By what standard? What if more people enjoy Halo 3 than Crysis? What if more people find Halo 3 fun than find Cysis fun?

What if, eh? Compared to other games, many people who have played some demos of Crysis, say that Crysis feels like play, while other games feel like work. For actual superiority, check my sig ('tis a bit old, but still has some good stuff in there).

What if indeed. It's competing with one of the most beloved series of the past decade. You know, this reminds me a *lot* of a much older debate... Total Annihilation VS Starcraft. TA had a full 3D engine, larger maps, WAY more units, actual height physics for artillery concerning walls and hills and stuff, unit formations, new units released every few weeks, wind physics for fire, and plenty of other things I can't even remember. It was technically, and as far as bells and whistles were concerned, the vastly superior game. Oh, it was also out about half a year before Starcraft as well. Starcraft was done on an archaic Warcraft II engine, used dated sprite based graphics, offered lower resolutions than TA, had fewer units, etc etc etc... The list could go on. You know what history has shown? Starcraft is almost universally a more beloved game than the comparitively forgotten TA. Does this mean that Starcraft is a better game despite its technical flaws - could it have just been that much more fun? Well, that's debatable - but what's clear is that you'd be an idiot to call Starcraft a worse game based solely on technical merits or the ravings of some latest-Radeon-up-their-ass PC elite. Looking at your sig, I've seen that argument before on the TA side. Which game will be better has not yet been decided, and people WILL enjoy one game over another. It's not nearly as clear cut as you think about which one it will be there.
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[QUOTE="baddog121390"]What fanboyism? How can I be a fanboy of an unproven franchise? Im only hyping it because of the stuff it's going to do on its own - its no sequel. And enjoy both I will, but Crysis is going to be better.
Donkey_Puncher

I was commenting on the flame fest going back and forth with Crysis>>>>Halo 3. or Halo 3>>>>>Crysis.

Both games are gonna be great, but the core gameplay will be different with both of them too.

Doesn't matter though, I'll play and love both. You'd be wise to do the same.

Crysis has Halo's core gameplay to boot. That's if you want to use it. Remeber, Crysis is three games in one.
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No Unreal Tournament 3? :(
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[QUOTE="Vandalvideo"] Because his posts are in direct response to a console fanboy proclaiming Halo is better. The hermit creed is "Thou shalt not own unless owned upon"....then own them hard.

If you're talking about me being a console fanboy... 8 of my favorite 10 games ever are PC games. 3 of my 4 favorite FPS's are PC games. I've been playing PC games since the only colors on my screen were green and black, and didn't start console gaming until the NES. What do you suppose that means?
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[QUOTE="AfterShafter"][QUOTE="Vandalvideo"] Because his posts are in direct response to a console fanboy proclaiming Halo is better. The hermit creed is "Thou shalt not own unless owned upon"....then own them hard.

If you're talking about me being a console fanboy... 8 of my favorite 10 games ever are PC games. 3 of my 4 favorite FPS's are PC games. I've been playing PC games since the only colors on my screen were green and black, and didn't start console gaming until the NES. What do you suppose that means?

I didn't even know he was replying to you :o.
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#213 Donkey_Puncher
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[QUOTE="Donkey_Puncher"]

[QUOTE="baddog121390"]What fanboyism? How can I be a fanboy of an unproven franchise? Im only hyping it because of the stuff it's going to do on its own - its no sequel. And enjoy both I will, but Crysis is going to be better.
baddog121390

I was commenting on the flame fest going back and forth with Crysis>>>>Halo 3. or Halo 3>>>>>Crysis.

Both games are gonna be great, but the core gameplay will be different with both of them too.

Doesn't matter though, I'll play and love both. You'd be wise to do the same.

Crysis has Halo's core gameplay to boot. That's if you want to use it. Remeber, Crysis is three games in one.

Crysis will not play like Halo 3, I can guaruntee that. 

Come on now, are all hermits as angry as you?  Can't you just enjoy a great franchise when it's presented to you?

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[QUOTE="baddog121390"][QUOTE="AfterShafter"][QUOTE="baddog121390"]It still doesn't change the fact that Crysis will be better.
AfterShafter
By what standard? What if more people enjoy Halo 3 than Crysis? What if more people find Halo 3 fun than find Cysis fun?

What if, eh? Compared to other games, many people who have played some demos of Crysis, say that Crysis feels like play, while other games feel like work. For actual superiority, check my sig ('tis a bit old, but still has some good stuff in there).

What if indeed. It's competing with one of the most beloved series of the past decade. You know, this reminds me a *lot* of a much older debate... Total Annihilation VS Starcraft. TA had a full 3D engine, larger maps, WAY more units, actual height physics for artillery concerning walls and hills and stuff, unit formations, new units released every few weeks, wind physics for fire, and plenty of other things I can't even remember. It was technically, and as far as bells and whistles were concerned, the vastly superior game. Oh, it was also out about half a year before Starcraft as well. Starcraft was done on an archaic Warcraft II engine, used dated sprite based graphics, offered lower resolutions than TA, had fewer units, etc etc etc... The list could go on. You know what history has shown? Starcraft is almost universally a more beloved game than the comparitively forgotten TA. Does this mean that Starcraft is a better game despite its technical flaws - could it have just been that much more fun? Well, that's debatable - but what's clear is that you'd be an idiot to call Starcraft a worse game based solely on technical merits or the ravings of some latest-Radeon-up-their-ass PC elite. Looking at your sig, I've seen that argument before on the TA side. Which game will be better has not yet been decided, and people WILL enjoy one game over another. It's not nearly as clear cut as you think about which one it will be there.

Hmm, Starcraft and TA. Crysis and Halo 3. Not a fair comparison as Starcraft was shooting for a 2d playing field, while Halo 3 is trying to compete in the 3d world with Crysis.
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#215 AfterShafter
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[QUOTE="Donkey_Puncher"]

[QUOTE="baddog121390"]What fanboyism? How can I be a fanboy of an unproven franchise? Im only hyping it because of the stuff it's going to do on its own - its no sequel. And enjoy both I will, but Crysis is going to be better.
baddog121390

I was commenting on the flame fest going back and forth with Crysis>>>>Halo 3. or Halo 3>>>>>Crysis.

Both games are gonna be great, but the core gameplay will be different with both of them too.

Doesn't matter though, I'll play and love both. You'd be wise to do the same.

Crysis has Halo's core gameplay to boot. That's if you want to use it. Remeber, Crysis is three games in one.

And yet a single question looms, and is FAR from being answered... Will it be more fun to play than Halo 3? We'll see, because while I'm sure you've already made up your mind, you and I sure as hell don't know, nor are we qualified to say with any true resolve.
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[QUOTE="baddog121390"][QUOTE="Donkey_Puncher"]

[QUOTE="baddog121390"]What fanboyism? How can I be a fanboy of an unproven franchise? Im only hyping it because of the stuff it's going to do on its own - its no sequel. And enjoy both I will, but Crysis is going to be better.
Donkey_Puncher

I was commenting on the flame fest going back and forth with Crysis>>>>Halo 3. or Halo 3>>>>>Crysis.

Both games are gonna be great, but the core gameplay will be different with both of them too.

Doesn't matter though, I'll play and love both. You'd be wise to do the same.

Crysis has Halo's core gameplay to boot. That's if you want to use it. Remeber, Crysis is three games in one.

Crysis will not play like Halo 3, I can guaruntee that.

Come on now, are all hermits as angry as you? Can't you just enjoy a great franchise when it's presented to you?



He's trying to tell you that you can play Crysis like you play Halo, if you want to. You can run n' gun, melee bad guys, and drive around vehicles all you want. Or if you want you can play it completely differently, its up to you. That's the beauty of the game. He's not trying to say the game will be the same as Halo 3.
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#217 baddog121390
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[QUOTE="baddog121390"][QUOTE="Donkey_Puncher"]

[QUOTE="baddog121390"]What fanboyism? How can I be a fanboy of an unproven franchise? Im only hyping it because of the stuff it's going to do on its own - its no sequel. And enjoy both I will, but Crysis is going to be better.
Donkey_Puncher

I was commenting on the flame fest going back and forth with Crysis>>>>Halo 3. or Halo 3>>>>>Crysis.

Both games are gonna be great, but the core gameplay will be different with both of them too.

Doesn't matter though, I'll play and love both. You'd be wise to do the same.

Crysis has Halo's core gameplay to boot. That's if you want to use it. Remeber, Crysis is three games in one.

Crysis will not play like Halo 3, I can guaruntee that.

Come on now, are all hermits as angry as you? Can't you just enjoy a great franchise when it's presented to you?

You can't guaruntee that. It's already been shown you can have Halo-like gameplay in Crysis - it's just your own choice.
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#218 Vandalvideo
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[QUOTE="baddog121390"][QUOTE="Donkey_Puncher"]

[QUOTE="baddog121390"]What fanboyism? How can I be a fanboy of an unproven franchise? Im only hyping it because of the stuff it's going to do on its own - its no sequel. And enjoy both I will, but Crysis is going to be better.
Donkey_Puncher

I was commenting on the flame fest going back and forth with Crysis>>>>Halo 3. or Halo 3>>>>>Crysis.

Both games are gonna be great, but the core gameplay will be different with both of them too.

Doesn't matter though, I'll play and love both. You'd be wise to do the same.

Crysis has Halo's core gameplay to boot. That's if you want to use it. Remeber, Crysis is three games in one.

Crysis will not play like Halo 3, I can guaruntee that. 

Come on now, are all hermits as angry as you?  Can't you just enjoy a great franchise when it's presented to you?

Crysis has run and gun, pluck and duck, super hardcore super man beat yo dumb ***, and stealth gameplay. Lets play "Guess Which One Halo IS!".
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#219 baddog121390
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[QUOTE="Donkey_Puncher"][QUOTE="baddog121390"][QUOTE="Donkey_Puncher"]

[QUOTE="baddog121390"]What fanboyism? How can I be a fanboy of an unproven franchise? Im only hyping it because of the stuff it's going to do on its own - its no sequel. And enjoy both I will, but Crysis is going to be better.
Vandalvideo

I was commenting on the flame fest going back and forth with Crysis>>>>Halo 3. or Halo 3>>>>>Crysis.

Both games are gonna be great, but the core gameplay will be different with both of them too.

Doesn't matter though, I'll play and love both. You'd be wise to do the same.

Crysis has Halo's core gameplay to boot. That's if you want to use it. Remeber, Crysis is three games in one.

Crysis will not play like Halo 3, I can guaruntee that.

Come on now, are all hermits as angry as you? Can't you just enjoy a great franchise when it's presented to you?

Crysis has run and gun, pluck and duck, super hardcore super man beat yo dumb ***, and stealth gameplay. Lets play "Guess Which One Halo IS!".

Zactly.
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[QUOTE="AfterShafter"][QUOTE="baddog121390"][QUOTE="AfterShafter"][QUOTE="baddog121390"]It still doesn't change the fact that Crysis will be better.
baddog121390
By what standard? What if more people enjoy Halo 3 than Crysis? What if more people find Halo 3 fun than find Cysis fun?

What if, eh? Compared to other games, many people who have played some demos of Crysis, say that Crysis feels like play, while other games feel like work. For actual superiority, check my sig ('tis a bit old, but still has some good stuff in there).

What if indeed. It's competing with one of the most beloved series of the past decade. You know, this reminds me a *lot* of a much older debate... Total Annihilation VS Starcraft. TA had a full 3D engine, larger maps, WAY more units, actual height physics for artillery concerning walls and hills and stuff, unit formations, new units released every few weeks, wind physics for fire, and plenty of other things I can't even remember. It was technically, and as far as bells and whistles were concerned, the vastly superior game. Oh, it was also out about half a year before Starcraft as well. Starcraft was done on an archaic Warcraft II engine, used dated sprite based graphics, offered lower resolutions than TA, had fewer units, etc etc etc... The list could go on. You know what history has shown? Starcraft is almost universally a more beloved game than the comparitively forgotten TA. Does this mean that Starcraft is a better game despite its technical flaws - could it have just been that much more fun? Well, that's debatable - but what's clear is that you'd be an idiot to call Starcraft a worse game based solely on technical merits or the ravings of some latest-Radeon-up-their-ass PC elite. Looking at your sig, I've seen that argument before on the TA side. Which game will be better has not yet been decided, and people WILL enjoy one game over another. It's not nearly as clear cut as you think about which one it will be there.

Hmm, Starcraft and TA. Crysis and Halo 3. Not a fair comparison as Starcraft was shooting for a 2d playing field, while Halo 3 is trying to compete in the 3d world with Crysis.

Um... Both were top down RTS's which were played on an essentially 2D playing field. The 3D engine of TA was for graphical effects, not to allow actual 3D movements. Don't talk unless you have some idea about what you're talking about - TA and Starcraft were VERY comparable, which is why they were constantly compared back in... 96 was it?

Feel free to sub in Diablo II vs NOX, or even WoW VS EQII if you want.  Same deal in each case...  Though WoW VS EQII is a bit of a stretch.
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He's trying to tell you that you can play Crysis like you play Halo, if you want to.  You can run n' gun, melee bad guys, and drive around vehicles all you want.  Or if you can play it completely differently, its up to you.  That's the beauty of the game.  He's not trying to say the game will be the same as Halo 3.
Teufelhuhn

I'm well aware of the possibilities in Crysis, reason why I'm buying the game when it releases. 

But gameplay wise, it's not going to have the same feel, that's only what I'm saying. 

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Um... Both were top down RTS's which were played on an essentially 2D playing field. The 3D engine of TA was for graphical effects, not to allow actual 3D movements. Don't talk unless you have some idea about what you're talking about - TA and Starcraft were VERY comparable, which is why they were constantly compared back in... 96 was it?AfterShafter

98'.

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[QUOTE="AfterShafter"] Um... Both were top down RTS's which were played on an essentially 2D playing field. The 3D engine of TA was for graphical effects, not to allow actual 3D movements. Don't talk unless you have some idea about what you're talking about - TA and Starcraft were VERY comparable, which is why they were constantly compared back in... 96 was it?Donkey_Puncher

98'.

Ah, thanks. Get my dates mixed up. DN3D was probably 96... They're pretty much my two favorite games of the period, which is why I get them mixed up.
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[QUOTE="baddog121390"][QUOTE="AfterShafter"][QUOTE="baddog121390"][QUOTE="AfterShafter"][QUOTE="baddog121390"]It still doesn't change the fact that Crysis will be better.
AfterShafter
By what standard? What if more people enjoy Halo 3 than Crysis? What if more people find Halo 3 fun than find Cysis fun?

What if, eh? Compared to other games, many people who have played some demos of Crysis, say that Crysis feels like play, while other games feel like work. For actual superiority, check my sig ('tis a bit old, but still has some good stuff in there).

What if indeed. It's competing with one of the most beloved series of the past decade. You know, this reminds me a *lot* of a much older debate... Total Annihilation VS Starcraft. TA had a full 3D engine, larger maps, WAY more units, actual height physics for artillery concerning walls and hills and stuff, unit formations, new units released every few weeks, wind physics for fire, and plenty of other things I can't even remember. It was technically, and as far as bells and whistles were concerned, the vastly superior game. Oh, it was also out about half a year before Starcraft as well. Starcraft was done on an archaic Warcraft II engine, used dated sprite based graphics, offered lower resolutions than TA, had fewer units, etc etc etc... The list could go on. You know what history has shown? Starcraft is almost universally a more beloved game than the comparitively forgotten TA. Does this mean that Starcraft is a better game despite its technical flaws - could it have just been that much more fun? Well, that's debatable - but what's clear is that you'd be an idiot to call Starcraft a worse game based solely on technical merits or the ravings of some latest-Radeon-up-their-ass PC elite. Looking at your sig, I've seen that argument before on the TA side. Which game will be better has not yet been decided, and people WILL enjoy one game over another. It's not nearly as clear cut as you think about which one it will be there.

Hmm, Starcraft and TA. Crysis and Halo 3. Not a fair comparison as Starcraft was shooting for a 2d playing field, while Halo 3 is trying to compete in the 3d world with Crysis.

Um... Both were top down RTS's which were played on an essentially 2D playing field. The 3D engine of TA was for graphical effects, not to allow actual 3D movements. Don't talk unless you have some idea about what you're talking about - TA and Starcraft were VERY comparable, which is why they were constantly compared back in... 96 was it?

Then I don't see why comparing two RTS games from the mid-to-late-90s is as similar with Crysis and Halo 3. We have physics, lots of gameplay changing physics in this day and age. That's what Crysis offers ofer Halo 3, not just some better special effects.
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#225 Donkey_Puncher
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[QUOTE="Donkey_Puncher"]

[QUOTE="AfterShafter"] Um... Both were top down RTS's which were played on an essentially 2D playing field. The 3D engine of TA was for graphical effects, not to allow actual 3D movements. Don't talk unless you have some idea about what you're talking about - TA and Starcraft were VERY comparable, which is why they were constantly compared back in... 96 was it?AfterShafter

98'.

Ah, thanks. Get my dates mixed up. DN3D was probably 96... They're pretty much my two favorite games of the period, which is why I get them mixed up.

98 was the best year in gaming.  Starcraft and Half-Life, only reason why I remember that year. 

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Then I don't see why comparing two RTS games from the mid-to-late-90s is as similar with Crysis and Halo 3. We have physics, lots of gameplay changing physics in this day and age. That's what Crysis offers ofer Halo 3, not just some better special effects.baddog121390

How do you not see the comparison?

He's trying to tell you that a game with strikingly better technical merits won't necessarily win because of them.  It's not rocket science. 

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#227 AfterShafter
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[QUOTE="AfterShafter"][QUOTE="baddog121390"][QUOTE="AfterShafter"][QUOTE="baddog121390"][QUOTE="AfterShafter"][QUOTE="baddog121390"]It still doesn't change the fact that Crysis will be better.
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By what standard? What if more people enjoy Halo 3 than Crysis? What if more people find Halo 3 fun than find Cysis fun?

What if, eh? Compared to other games, many people who have played some demos of Crysis, say that Crysis feels like play, while other games feel like work. For actual superiority, check my sig ('tis a bit old, but still has some good stuff in there).

What if indeed. It's competing with one of the most beloved series of the past decade. You know, this reminds me a *lot* of a much older debate... Total Annihilation VS Starcraft. TA had a full 3D engine, larger maps, WAY more units, actual height physics for artillery concerning walls and hills and stuff, unit formations, new units released every few weeks, wind physics for fire, and plenty of other things I can't even remember. It was technically, and as far as bells and whistles were concerned, the vastly superior game. Oh, it was also out about half a year before Starcraft as well. Starcraft was done on an archaic Warcraft II engine, used dated sprite based graphics, offered lower resolutions than TA, had fewer units, etc etc etc... The list could go on. You know what history has shown? Starcraft is almost universally a more beloved game than the comparitively forgotten TA. Does this mean that Starcraft is a better game despite its technical flaws - could it have just been that much more fun? Well, that's debatable - but what's clear is that you'd be an idiot to call Starcraft a worse game based solely on technical merits or the ravings of some latest-Radeon-up-their-ass PC elite. Looking at your sig, I've seen that argument before on the TA side. Which game will be better has not yet been decided, and people WILL enjoy one game over another. It's not nearly as clear cut as you think about which one it will be there.

Hmm, Starcraft and TA. Crysis and Halo 3. Not a fair comparison as Starcraft was shooting for a 2d playing field, while Halo 3 is trying to compete in the 3d world with Crysis.

Um... Both were top down RTS's which were played on an essentially 2D playing field. The 3D engine of TA was for graphical effects, not to allow actual 3D movements. Don't talk unless you have some idea about what you're talking about - TA and Starcraft were VERY comparable, which is why they were constantly compared back in... 96 was it?

Then I don't see why comparing two RTS games from the mid-to-late-90s is as similar with Crysis and Halo 3. We have physics, lots of gameplay changing physics in this day and age. That's what Crysis offers ofer Halo 3, not just some better special effects.

Those lists I had for TA and Starcraft showed a HELL of a lot more than better special effects on them. It's a simple point of comparison... Starcraft was THE RTS game of the period because it was freaking fun, even if it was technically outclassed by TA on just about every front. If you can't see why there's potential for a comparison between Halo 3 and Crysis here, chances are you just don't want to see it. My point is, we don't know which game will be better at this point, and no list of features is going to show that. The last two Halo games were popular because people played them and enjoyed playing them even though there were games with a lot of technical factors with them at the time, particularly the second Halo. If you think a list of features and ANYTHING but actual gameplay experience of both is going to show which one is better, you're deluding yourself. Several times on several prestegious past occasions the widely thought to be better game was the one that didn't have the features in its favour.
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#228 Rashpal
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Which one of these will be the best FPS? (I took what I considered to be the most anticipated FPS from each system)

Halo 3

Crysis

Killzone 2

Metroid Prime 3


Newnab
It's like asking: Which is better, cats or dogs?
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98 was the best year in gaming.  Starcraft and Half-Life, only reason why I remember that year. 

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Don't forget Tribes. That game freaking rocked too ;)
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#230 pcmxms
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[QUOTE="Newnab"]Which one of these will be the best FPS? (I took what I considered to be the most anticipated FPS from each system)

Halo 3

Crysis

Killzone 2

Metroid Prime 3


Rashpal
It's like asking: Which is better, cats or dogs?

No... cat and dogs are real. Those games arent out yet.
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#231 smokeydabear076
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[QUOTE="Newnab"]Which one of these will be the best FPS? (I took what I considered to be the most anticipated FPS from each system)

Halo 3

Crysis

Killzone 2

Metroid Prime 3


Rashpal
It's like asking: Which is better, cats or dogs?

I know... it is such a simple question to answer. dogs are better then cats.
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#232 pcmxms
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[QUOTE="Rashpal"][QUOTE="Newnab"]Which one of these will be the best FPS? (I took what I considered to be the most anticipated FPS from each system)

Halo 3

Crysis

Killzone 2

Metroid Prime 3


smokeydabear076
It's like asking: Which is better, cats or dogs?

I know... it is such a simple question to answer. dogs are better then cats.

Cats FTW
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#233 smokeydabear076
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[QUOTE="smokeydabear076"][QUOTE="Rashpal"][QUOTE="Newnab"]Which one of these will be the best FPS? (I took what I considered to be the most anticipated FPS from each system)

Halo 3

Crysis

Killzone 2

Metroid Prime 3


pcmxms
It's like asking: Which is better, cats or dogs?

I know... it is such a simple question to answer. dogs are better then cats.

Cats FTW

Dogs FTW.
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[QUOTE="baddog121390"]Then I don't see why comparing two RTS games from the mid-to-late-90s is as similar with Crysis and Halo 3. We have physics, lots of gameplay changing physics in this day and age. That's what Crysis offers ofer Halo 3, not just some better special effects.Donkey_Puncher

How do you not see the comparison?

He's trying to tell you that a game with strikingly better technical merits won't necessarily win because of them. It's not rocket science.

The fact that it's buliding on FarCry is more than enough to tell me which game will be more fun, and enjoyable. Halo has fantastic split-screen. We'll just have to wait and see how great Crysis' Power Struggle mode turns out. On paper it sounds evolutionary, and in some ways revolutionary. I only do this because we're in System Wars - where people compare unreleased games all the time.
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#235 AfterShafter
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[QUOTE="smokeydabear076"][QUOTE="Rashpal"]It's like asking: Which is better, cats or dogs?pcmxms
I know... it is such a simple question to answer. dogs are better then cats.

Cats FTW





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Go dog!
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#236 AfterShafter
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The fact that it's buliding on FarCry is more than enough to tell me which game will be more fun, and enjoyable. Halo has fantastic split-screen. We'll just have to wait and see how great Crysis' Power Struggle mode turns out. On paper it sounds evolutionary, and in some ways revolutionary. I only do this because we're in System Wars - where people compare unreleased games all the time.
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DMC 2 built on DMC 1... Yoshi's Story built on Yoshi's Island. TA: Kingdoms was supposed to build on Total Annihilation. Or, a little closer to home, Halo 2 was supposed to build on Halo 1, but wasn't as good. Sometimes these things don't work out like developers plan. Besides, however clear you seem to be on it, *many* people obviously aren't.
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#237 dimar19
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Halo 3 WTF
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#238 smokeydabear076
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Halo 3 WTFdimar19
Halo 3 is a FPS are you shocked?
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#239 Dm1uciano
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Winners:

Halo 3 - Console

Crysis - PC
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#240 Rashpal
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[QUOTE="Rashpal"][QUOTE="Newnab"]Which one of these will be the best FPS? (I took what I considered to be the most anticipated FPS from each system)

Halo 3

Crysis

Killzone 2

Metroid Prime 3


pcmxms
It's like asking: Which is better, cats or dogs?

No... cat and dogs are real. Those games arent out yet.

Which further compounds my point.
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#241 Rashpal
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[QUOTE="pcmxms"][QUOTE="smokeydabear076"][QUOTE="Rashpal"]It's like asking: Which is better, cats or dogs?AfterShafter
I know... it is such a simple question to answer. dogs are better then cats.

Cats FTW





VS



Go dog!

:lol: Yeah, cats are lazy *******!!!
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#242 Vandalvideo
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Two can play at that game.
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#243 Spartan070
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I leave this thread for a few hours and people go nuts.:P A) Cats FTW /debate. B) The best year in gaming will probably be 2007. C) Halo FTW
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#244 baddog121390
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[QUOTE="baddog121390"]The fact that it's buliding on FarCry is more than enough to tell me which game will be more fun, and enjoyable. Halo has fantastic split-screen. We'll just have to wait and see how great Crysis' Power Struggle mode turns out. On paper it sounds evolutionary, and in some ways revolutionary. I only do this because we're in System Wars - where people compare unreleased games all the time.
AfterShafter
DMC 2 built on DMC 1... Yoshi's Story built on Yoshi's Island. TA: Kingdoms was supposed to build on Total Annihilation. Or, a little closer to home, Halo 2 was supposed to build on Halo 1, but wasn't as good. Sometimes these things don't work out like developers plan. Besides, however clear you seem to be on it, *many* people obviously aren't.

Yes, but Crysis is bringing a lot in the game. It's just automatically backed by FarCry. Halo 2 brought nearly nothing. Crysis is bringing entire new gameplay elements - combining 3 entirely different shooter experiences in one.
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#245 Gamer556
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Halo 3
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#246 OceanLeet
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Which one of these will be the best FPS? (I took what I considered to be the most anticipated FPS from each system)

Halo 3

Crysis

Killzone 2

Metroid Prime 3


Newnab

UT3 and the Geeky Twitcher King
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#247 svetzenlether
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[QUOTE="musicalmac"]Crysis shouldn't be up there yet. It's not a proven formula for success. Halo and Metroid are the only two that should be compared right now (because Killzone wasn't exactly a blockbuster). I'm going with Halo because of my interests (Bungie, Marathon, the lore surrounding the series, etc...). But I would love a Wii so I could play Metroid Prime 3. The first two were excellent :)



I love this, the only original shooter on the list and ppl are saying "It hasn't proven itself, blah blah blah..."  Well, I think Crytek proved itself with Far Cry a few years ago, and it's something new which is the most important thing for me in a game these days, so I'll go with Crysis.
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#248 svetzenlether
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[QUOTE="svetzenlether"][QUOTE="musicalmac"]Crysis shouldn't be up there yet. It's not a proven formula for success. Halo and Metroid are the only two that should be compared right now (because Killzone wasn't exactly a blockbuster). I'm going with Halo because of my interests (Bungie, Marathon, the lore surrounding the series, etc...). But I would love a Wii so I could play Metroid Prime 3. The first two were excellent :)



I love this, the only original shooter on the list and ppl are saying "It hasn't proven itself, blah blah blah..." Well, I think Crytek proved itself with Far Cry a few years ago, and it's something new which is the most important thing for me in a game these days, so I'll go with Crysis.



But really, none of those will be able to stand up to the greatness that is Half Life 2, so it's kind of a needless topic.
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#249 svetzenlether
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[QUOTE="Spartan070"]I leave this thread for a few hours and people go nuts.:P
A) Cats FTW /debate.
B) The best year in gaming will probably be 2007.
C) Halo FTW



I will contend with anyone that 1998 was the best year in gaming followed by 2003
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*Waits for someone to say "Half-Life 2: Episode 2.*
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