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#251 whiskeystrike
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[QUOTE="whiskeystrike"]

Sly Cooper: Thieves in Time doesn't mess with the foundation set by its enjoyable predecessors.

Graceful controls and well-designed levels make Sly Cooper: Thieves in Time another satisfying entry in the series.

There are occasional stumbles, but Sly Cooper: Thieves in Time is another good entry in the platforming series.


Sounds like what the fans wanted

KBFloYd

lol every review even ones that get below 7 are like that...reviewers have to be proffessional...

look at the score... it doesn't match your comment.

Numbers are open to your interpretation, that's the point of them.

The reviews are written before they are assigned a number. GS editors have posted before on this board in regards to this very subject. McShea himself was not the one to decide the number, it was assigned that by those who read his review. To the GS community his review "sounds" like a 7.

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#252 HaloPimp978
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Sad it got the score it did but I love Sly so I will get it eventually.

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#253 W1NGMAN-
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[QUOTE="W1NGMAN-"]

[QUOTE="KBFloYd"]

lol every review even ones that get below 7 are like that...reviewers have to be proffessional...

look at the score... it doesn't match your comment.

KBFloYd

I looked at it, and it says "good" right under it. :?

yea that mean it's ok...

sly fanboys thought it was going to be "great"...didn't you?

WTF ... LMAO! I'm sure Good means Good. Personally I didn't have any expectations, I haven't followed the game at all since it's announcement but after reading the review it made me interested enough to wanna play it.

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#254 KBFloYd
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WTF ... LMAO! I'm sure Good means Good. Personally I didn't have any expectations, I haven't followed the game at all since it's announcement but after reading the review it made me interested enough to wanna play it.

W1NGMAN-

good is a very mediocre in it's essence....it gets thrown around all the time to describe things that are ok or decent.

you never played a sly game before? is the ps3 your 1st sony console? or did you just buy it for the kids :P

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#255 KBFloYd
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Numbers are open to your interpretation, that's the point of them.

The reviews are written before they are assigned a number. GS editors have posted before on this board in regards to this very subject. McShea himself was not the one to decide the number, it was assigned that by those who read his review. To the GS community his review "sounds" like a 7.

whiskeystrike

metacritic says 7 too... i'ts like that all over the world.

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#256 whiskeystrike
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[QUOTE="whiskeystrike"]

Numbers are open to your interpretation, that's the point of them.

The reviews are written before they are assigned a number. GS editors have posted before on this board in regards to this very subject. McShea himself was not the one to decide the number, it was assigned that by those who read his review. To the GS community his review "sounds" like a 7.

KBFloYd

metacritic says 7 too... i'ts like that all over the world.

I'm aware of that. You're interpreting 7 in a different way than I am, that's all there really is to say. Not to mention if you had actually read the review you would have realized long ago that the basis of your argument was terribly flawed.
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#257 15strong
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I thought we didn't care about scores for multiplats?

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#258 jsmoke03
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this thread

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#259 layton2012
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[QUOTE="W1NGMAN-"]

WTF ... LMAO! I'm sure Good means Good. Personally I didn't have any expectations, I haven't followed the game at all since it's announcement but after reading the review it made me interested enough to wanna play it.

KBFloYd

good is a very mediocre in it's essence....it gets thrown around all the time to describe things that are ok or decent.

you never played a sly game before? is the ps3 your 1st sony console? or did you just buy it for the kids :P

Exactly up to ones interpretation to most people Good means good, I don't know why you think for some reason good means mediocre, it doesn't.
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#260 KBFloYd
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[QUOTE="KBFloYd"]

[QUOTE="whiskeystrike"]

Numbers are open to your interpretation, that's the point of them.

The reviews are written before they are assigned a number. GS editors have posted before on this board in regards to this very subject. McShea himself was not the one to decide the number, it was assigned that by those who read his review. To the GS community his review "sounds" like a 7.

whiskeystrike

metacritic says 7 too... i'ts like that all over the world.

I'm aware of that. You're interpreting 7 in a different way than I am, that's all there really is to say. Not to mention if you had actually read the review you would have realized long ago that the basis of your argument was terribly flawed.

so to you a 7 means the game did what the developers expected and there no problem?

ok.

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#261 KBFloYd
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[QUOTE="KBFloYd"]

[QUOTE="W1NGMAN-"]

WTF ... LMAO! I'm sure Good means Good. Personally I didn't have any expectations, I haven't followed the game at all since it's announcement but after reading the review it made me interested enough to wanna play it.

layton2012

good is a very mediocre in it's essence....it gets thrown around all the time to describe things that are ok or decent.

you never played a sly game before? is the ps3 your 1st sony console? or did you just buy it for the kids :P

Exactly up to ones interpretation to most people Good means good, I don't know why you think for some reason good means mediocre, it doesn't.

so you see no problem with sly 4 getting 7's everywhere?

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#262 whiskeystrike
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[QUOTE="whiskeystrike"][QUOTE="KBFloYd"]

metacritic says 7 too... i'ts like that all over the world.

KBFloYd

I'm aware of that. You're interpreting 7 in a different way than I am, that's all there really is to say. Not to mention if you had actually read the review you would have realized long ago that the basis of your argument was terribly flawed.

so to you a 7 means the game did what the developers expected and there no problem?

ok.

No a 7 is not a representation of what we can expect from sales so I can't speak for the developers. Going by general fan reaction though I'd say Sly delivered what they wanted.
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#263 Rattlesnake_8
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7.5 means good.. thats not a flop.
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#264 layton2012
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[QUOTE="layton2012"][QUOTE="KBFloYd"]

good is a very mediocre in it's essence....it gets thrown around all the time to describe things that are ok or decent.

you never played a sly game before? is the ps3 your 1st sony console? or did you just buy it for the kids :P

KBFloYd

Exactly up to ones interpretation to most people Good means good, I don't know why you think for some reason good means mediocre, it doesn't.

so you see no problem with sly 4 getting 7's everywhere?

Doesn't change the fact that it is good. Which it is, it is good, may not be great but it is good.
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#265 AM-Gamer
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You can always depend on Sony to deliver the first flop of the yearRR360DD

You can also depend ont hem to deliver the fist AAA of the year: (Ni no Kuni) .  You can count on them to deliver more games period as a matter a fact. 

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#266 KBFloYd
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[QUOTE="KBFloYd"]

[QUOTE="whiskeystrike"] I'm aware of that. You're interpreting 7 in a different way than I am, that's all there really is to say. Not to mention if you had actually read the review you would have realized long ago that the basis of your argument was terribly flawed. whiskeystrike

so to you a 7 means the game did what the developers expected and there no problem?

ok.

No a 7 is not a representation of what we can expect from sales so I can't speak for the developers. Going by general fan reaction though I'd say Sly delivered what they wanted.

sales? sales are going to be even worse than the score..

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#267 KBFloYd
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7.5 means good.. thats not a flop.Rattlesnake_8

ok.

let's all celebrate the 7.5...i'll get the cake... you bring the punch.

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#268 KBFloYd
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[QUOTE="KBFloYd"]

[QUOTE="layton2012"] Exactly up to ones interpretation to most people Good means good, I don't know why you think for some reason good means mediocre, it doesn't.layton2012

so you see no problem with sly 4 getting 7's everywhere?

Doesn't change the fact that it is good. Which it is, it is good, may not be great but it is good.

again with the good.... so you think there is no dissapointment from anyone in that score? if you say no...then i'll shetup.

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#269 layton2012
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[QUOTE="layton2012"][QUOTE="KBFloYd"]

so you see no problem with sly 4 getting 7's everywhere?

KBFloYd

Doesn't change the fact that it is good. Which it is, it is good, may not be great but it is good.

again with the good.... so you think there is no dissapointment from anyone in that score? if you say no...then i'll shetup.

What is there to be disappointed about. It is other people's opinion, everyone is entitled to their opinion, I have played this game for myself to have my own opinion. I for one like the game, is it the best game this gen, no, but it feels like Sly, which is all I could ask for. Frankly you are the only one that isn't, since you haven't played the game, you don't know if it is good or not, your just taking reviewers opinion, who the majority have the said the game is good.
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#270 nightshade869
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Didn't the review said it was a solid game and really fun to play? Since when is that considered bad? I swear people determine what games to buy based on if it gets a 9 or higher. Sad day for developers since many amazing games score a little less than that.
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#271 W1NGMAN-
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[QUOTE="whiskeystrike"][QUOTE="KBFloYd"]

metacritic says 7 too... i'ts like that all over the world.

KBFloYd

I'm aware of that. You're interpreting 7 in a different way than I am, that's all there really is to say. Not to mention if you had actually read the review you would have realized long ago that the basis of your argument was terribly flawed.

so to you a 7 means the game did what the developers expected and there no problem?

ok.

How are any of us suppose to know that? Sony priced it at 39.99, maybe a 75% score is exactly what they expected to average based off of their pricing, budget, amount of development time, and the team they selected to work on the game?

We just don't know.

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#272 Stevo_the_gamer  Moderator
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Sly Cooper wasn't really hyped though outside the usual cow list filler.
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#273 whiskeystrike
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[QUOTE="whiskeystrike"][QUOTE="KBFloYd"]

so to you a 7 means the game did what the developers expected and there no problem?

ok.

KBFloYd

No a 7 is not a representation of what we can expect from sales so I can't speak for the developers. Going by general fan reaction though I'd say Sly delivered what they wanted.

sales? sales are going to be even worse than the score..

I'm sure they will sell more than 7 copies

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#274 finalfantasy94
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[QUOTE="Animal-Mother"] No I do. THere has to be a poll? Where are the rules where it has to be a poll? Can you show me those? AND alas, people did hype it in your thread. It's not validated proof that it %100 HAS to be a poll.

Sorry Chum.

Also who said anything about the 360. It's doing terrible right now.

Animal-Mother

If theres no poll theres no track of offcial hype. Thus no hype to meet or flop. Learn the rules of teh game. Also if I recall it wasint titel offical hype thread like the majority of hype threads are.

And if people start guessing scores that doesn't count?

if the thread is not an offical hype thread no. Going by what your saying if anyone says oh its a AA game in any thread about a game its an auto hype thread. It dont work like that.

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#275 Stevo_the_gamer  Moderator
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[QUOTE="Animal-Mother"][QUOTE="finalfantasy94"]

If theres no poll theres no track of offcial hype. Thus no hype to meet or flop. Learn the rules of teh game. Also if I recall it wasint titel offical hype thread like the majority of hype threads are.

finalfantasy94

And if people start guessing scores that doesn't count?

if the thread is not an offical hype thread with lacking a poll no it doesint. Going by what your saying if anyone says oh its a AA game in any thread about a game its an auto hype thread. It dont work like that.

Some TCs in hype threads have decided to omit polls altogether because they're deceptive in how they can be manipulated.
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#276 finalfantasy94
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[QUOTE="finalfantasy94"]

[QUOTE="Animal-Mother"] And if people start guessing scores that doesn't count?Stevo_the_gamer

if the thread is not an offical hype thread with lacking a poll no it doesint. Going by what your saying if anyone says oh its a AA game in any thread about a game its an auto hype thread. It dont work like that.

Some TCs in hype threads have decided to omit polls altogether because they're deceptive in how they can be manipulated.

this can be the case sometimes yes though some of this manipulations are pretty obvious:P. Also the sly thread wasint label as a hype thread. It was just about hey look sly is coming out. Everytime I see a hype thread its always label "insert game" offical hype thread and then some catchphrase.

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#277 lx_theo
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[QUOTE="Rattlesnake_8"]7.5 means good.. thats not a flop.KBFloYd

ok.

let's all celebrate the 7.5...i'll get the cake... you bring the punch.

The cake... is a lie.
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#278 rjdofu
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[QUOTE="Blake135"]

The game is the 2nd Coming ? Once again spurting out random crap as always, I think the game is average with Sly Fans being happy for it. Never have I hyped it being anything more then a Decent Sly game and it is a Decent sly game nothing more. Sly Series has always been around the 80% So I don't see a problem. Your just giving out SW dribble being called out for saying a statement like *Sony Closing Studios* Ok ? has nothing to do with this topic since they don't own Sanzaru Games.

KBFloYd

what exactly are we arguing here? make that clear first and i will give you better answers.

You're trying to exaggerate the hype for this game & make the flop more appearance in order to satisfy your own sick fanboy fetish.
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#279 rjdofu
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[QUOTE="Stevo_the_gamer"][QUOTE="finalfantasy94"]

if the thread is not an offical hype thread with lacking a poll no it doesint. Going by what your saying if anyone says oh its a AA game in any thread about a game its an auto hype thread. It dont work like that.

finalfantasy94

Some TCs in hype threads have decided to omit polls altogether because they're deceptive in how they can be manipulated.

this can be the case sometimes yes though some of this manipulations are pretty obvious:P. Also the sly thread wasint label as a hype thread. It was just about hey look sly is coming out. Everytime I see a hype thread its always label "insert game" offical hype thread and then some catchphrase.

The game doesn't have that much attention, so manipulation might not happen in this case. The last of us or GOW on the other hand...
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#280 lamprey263
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was it a flop, was there even any hype?
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#281 ninjapirate2000
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If this game got an 8 or 8.5 cows would be bragging.

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#282 layton2012
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was it a flop, was there even any hype?lamprey263
Not a flop, there wasn't a hype thread. There was a thread, but it was not a hype thread.
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#283 DerekLoffin
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If this game got an 8 or 8.5 cows would be bragging.

ninjapirate2000
Possibly, but that's nothing new, nothing particular to cows, and doesn't indicate hype level.
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#284 ninjapirate2000
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[QUOTE="ninjapirate2000"]

If this game got an 8 or 8.5 cows would be bragging.

DerekLoffin
Possibly, but that's nothing new, nothing particular to cows, and doesn't indicate hype level.

True
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#285 deactivated-5afcc99c5544f
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74 metacritic... and sold 10 units. 

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#286 mems_1224
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I've never played a Sly Cooper game. It never looked that interesting to me. :?
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#287 Malta_1980
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Well i still think it got a 'good' score, and its not like fans were expecting the game to score 9+ 

However its still nice to get games even if they dont score 10/10 :) 

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#288 sukraj
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7.5 is good enough for me.

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#289 Blake135
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I've never played a Sly Cooper game. It never looked that interesting to me. :?mems_1224

Yeah they were never *amazing*, enjoyed them when I was a Kid, I wouldn't enjoy them as much If I played them today. Getting Sly4 but rather out of Nostalgia then anything else, still not bad seems like it was made *for fans* but I can see why no one else would really care.

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#290 jessejay420
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[QUOTE="lx_theo"]

[QUOTE="Animal-Mother"] No I do. THere has to be a poll? Where are the rules where it has to be a poll? Can you show me those? AND alas, people did hype it in your thread. It's not validated proof that it %100 HAS to be a poll.

Sorry Chum.

Also who said anything about the 360. It's doing terrible right now.

RR360DD

There has to be a poll, yes. It means people can't just make stuff up based on skimming the predictions, people can't go back and change, and much more. Its just common sense.

 

Desperate dumb***

LOL not true. The best way to do it is have the TC tally up the votes in the original post. Polls are just waiting to be abused by fanboys, and people still vote even after the game has released.

so whst was the hype for this game? is there an accurate number we can go off of?
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#291 Miketheman83
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Cows always hype the worst games.
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#292 Oil_Rope_Bombs
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Damn, son. Userbase thinks it's good, though. Might pick it up soon.
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#293 jessejay420
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[QUOTE="lamprey263"]was it a flop, was there even any hype?layton2012
Not a flop, there wasn't a hype thread. There was a thread, but it was not a hype thread.

So its Confirmed that it wasnt hyped and it didnt Flop.
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#294 jessejay420
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[QUOTE="Animal-Mother"][QUOTE="el3m2tigre"]

:o:o:o

Easyle
http://www.amazon.com/Ninokuni-Shikkoku-Madoushi-Import-Nintendo-DS/dp/B001GNBW8E/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1360170371&sr=8-1&keywords=Ni+No+Kuni+DS

They are completely different games genius.

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#295 rjdofu
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Cows always hype the worst games.Miketheman83
Can't take your comment serious with that avatar.
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#296 The_Last_Ride
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IGN gave it a 8.0, doesn't seem to be a bad game
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#297 layton2012
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[QUOTE="RR360DD"]

[QUOTE="lx_theo"] There has to be a poll, yes. It means people can't just make stuff up based on skimming the predictions, people can't go back and change, and much more. Its just common sense.

 

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LOL not true. The best way to do it is have the TC tally up the votes in the original post. Polls are just waiting to be abused by fanboys, and people still vote even after the game has released.

so whst was the hype for this game? is there an accurate number we can go off of?

I'd say it was hyped A-AA, but it's hard to say most people were saying stuff like it will score 7.5-8.5.
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#298 blue_hazy_basic  Moderator
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AM I'm impressed at how easy this was ;)