Drickmann, The Last of Us Part 2 Won’t Avoid ‘Personal Politics’. SW, are you okay with this?

Suikoden 2?

In fact, what you are talking about is a pretty common trope in gaming, especially in RPGs. Hopeless Boss Fight.

In Suikoden 2, those boss battles were based purely on progressing the story and not some agenda that the writer had though.
I will say that the entire setting and events of Suikoden 2 are much more captivating.

@Maroxad: Except in JRPGS you eventually progress to the point where you can defeat them and ultimately the villan loses.

Pretty sure those boss battles were about progressing the story too. Namely by setting up adversary for Drake.

Do you have any compelling evidence those battles were done for the sake of pushing some agenda?

So people like that should just shut up ? there is nothing wrong with expressing both those feelings/views if it's clearly forced/shoehorned from creators. I find issue with forced diversity in any type of entertainment or art, you can express your personal views as a creator without being a dick about it, without insulting a large demographic or without belittling their views of the world.

No, what I am saying is that people have immense double standards and massive hypocrisy.

In other words, they are a bunch of frauds.

MGS2 comes to mind. Both the male protagonists, Raiden and Snake, got their arses handed to them by a black woman, Fortune. Not unlike what happened in UC4. Yet I don't remember MGS fans freaking out over Fortune... but then again, many fans were too busy bashing Raiden for looking "gay" or "feminine".

Furthermore, the whole plot of MGS2 basically had Raiden come out the loser, no matter what you did in the gameplay. There was no real sense of triumph. And that made MGS2 all the better for it.

I didn't play TLOU more than 1 hour because I thought the game was boring AF.

But let me take a stab at it.

The little kid becomes a lesbian at the end of TLOU. Essentially it's one big "coming out" story. The subject of sexuality and how one's sexuality develops (i.e. nature vs nurture) is considered a matter of personal politics. Some people have rigid views that sexuality is determined at birth, some people have views that it's a choice, and others think it's a combination of the two. Considering that this is, like I said, a "coming out" story, it results in commentary on a subject that some people will disagree with.

An example of what they could do in TLOU 2 for example, is have the game's climax be a graphic self-abortion scene, preaching the message that abortion clinics are good, and it wouldn't be too dissimilar from what they did with TLOU 1.

Each game could preach its own liberal message, easy way to praised as a masterpiece.

To be fair, I don't, really. I was only weighing in on the fact that Drickmann admitted, so to speak, that people will take some s*** offensive in TLoU2. . These days, certain social layers' feelings tend to get in the way of them interpreting art for what it is - usually cozy upper middle class types. I usually try to put everything in its historical context, and I'm assuming you do too! -- especially seeing your reference to Suikoden 2.

I was only providing the Suikoden 2 analysis as an extension of you bringing up that game's unbeatable battles. That game may be a only a little step forward in terms of gameplay from the previous iteration, but it has such a compelling story line as all of them do!

@Jag85: Yet the battle with fortune wasnt a worthless boss battle. It ended in a stalemate as opposed to you getting owned. And unlike UC4 they actually explain how shes unstoppable. She had technology that deflected all bullets and once she lost that she got wrecked by Ocelot.

Yeah Suikoden 2 has a fairly decent storyline.

That is why I brought it up. Bringing up a game with a trashy storyline wouldnt have done my argument any favors now, would it? ;)

Likewise, Nadine was eventually defeated when Sam pulled a gun on her. So she wasn't unstoppable. She was only beating them in unarmed combat, because she's a trained martial artist and they aren't.

It's liberal garbage

There is no defense to it.

It's going to be just as anti-American as the other garbage out there

You still didn't account for the extra 1% from your numbers.

You still didn't account for how it translates to videogame audiences.

Hey look, i can ignore your arguments too!

This is not a contest or a vote, my friend.

It's about the prevalent demographics.

And since white males and white females are two most prevalent ones, especially since they're neck-in-neck in numbers, neither of them is a minority.

When you have to combine the remaining demographics to put them up as a comparable number to a supposed "minority", that's when you know it's not a minority.

@Jag85: defeated? You couldn't touch the bitch. Not to mention she got away.

The same logic applies.

How is a video game liberal? Its just entertainment man.

I literally have no idea what was political about TLOU (especially the end) and I don't really know what 'personal politics' is supposed to mean either :S

You still didn't account for the extra 1% from your numbers.

He doesnt need to. Since I already explained it. But I put the explanation in an edit. So if you missed it, I dont blame you.

I will redo the maths lesson for you, but I will word it better.

The most likely reason for that extra 1% came from rounding. Try adding up the percentages 30.6%+31.6%+19%+18.8%. You will get 100%. Now try again, this time round those 4 percentages to the 2 most significant figures. And you will get 101%. Class dismissed.

Unless the game is SJW Feminist propaganda where the main character hates all white men, I'm OK with it.

Says who?

Mr. Consistency.

Nadine lost the second fight as Sam got the gun. She was never a boss anyway just an amusing distraction driving on the plot. It was just an interactive cut scene not a boss fight.

I am hoping that she will be the Easy Mode on Uncharted: The Lost Legacy.

@flyincloud1116:

What were his political views in the game?

Honestly, I do not know.

@flyincloud1116:

Yeah, I love the game but didn't notice anything unusual.

Hey, do not shoot the messenger.

@flyincloud1116:

Lol, I'm not :). I just genuinely didn't know what they were referring to.

Pizza? Or maybe the LBMQRTD stuff in the DLC? We'll never know.

@flyincloud1116:

I guess the DLC. I liked the DLC though and I usually do not.

It's funny that gaming is be criticized for being too "liberal" when the artist that construct all of the visuals and the story are from the liberal schools of thought.

Shouldn't be too surprising, since the game industry draws most of its talent from colleges and universities... which conservatives often view as part of a "liberal brainwashing" conspiracy.

Mr. Context strongly disagrees.

There is no reason the context would differ in the terminology. Since both refer to the smaller demographic or part.

Therefore, I am pretty sure Mr. Context would agree with me as well.

Edit: Under the context that the term majority and minority was used, it was pretty clear, the guy was referring to relative majority.