DMC demo went up today.

Just played the demo(PS3) and right off the back i'm not digging the visuals.

Dont like how the square button operates gun and the whip. guns feel lame now.

Dante is lame when he talks during the boss battle.

But overall it seems like it will be a good solid playthrough for $20-$30

I also thought Dante's mother is human. Where this angel stuff coming from?

[QUOTE="madsnakehhh"]

[QUOTE="GD1551"]

It absolutely did not......

Gue1

Hmmm...maybe not, but it was on par with DMC3 arguably the best action game last gen.

best action game of last gen was God of War.

[QUOTE="madsnakehhh"]

Hmmm...maybe not, but it was on par with DMC3 arguably the best action game last gen.

best action game of last gen was God of War.

It looks great. Will certainly give the demo a try.
Dante looks like a douche, though

2deep4u

best action game of last gen was God of War.

So, how badly is Ninja Theory's game going to irrevocably damage the franchise?

We talking DMC2-levels of awful here or what?

my bad, there was another difficulty that was locked. Once you unlock it the enemies are more varied, they use new moves and they actually move and even guard against your attacks! Game is not so bad after you get used to mash buttons like in God of War. But they really need to simplify the controller.

In the old DMC games you could target an enemy, use roll/dash and secondary abilities with just 1 button and this gave you space to time your combos, cancels and stuffwhile in this game you need 3 hands to play it correctly. You button mash or you die.

[QUOTE="madsnakehhh"]

[QUOTE="GD1551"]

It absolutely did not......

Gue1

Hmmm...maybe not, but it was on par with DMC3 arguably the best action game last gen.

best action game of last gen was God of War.

I found HS and enslaved very enjoyable games.finalfantasy94

[QUOTE="finalfantasy94"]I found HS and enslaved very enjoyable games.Zeviander

Ninja Theory can't design good combat to save their lives.

new PSN store update svcks a$$. Went to dl DMC demo and PSN store keeps freezing . going to dl via XBL now.

I also thought Dante's mother is human. Where this angel stuff coming from?PSP107

[QUOTE="PSP107"]I also thought Dante's mother is human. Where this angel stuff coming from?Zeviander

new PSN store update svcks a$$. Went to dl DMC demo and PSN store keeps freezing . going to dl via XBL now.

indzman

I thought it was great, f*** you all.

my bad, there was another difficulty that was locked. Once you unlock it the enemies are more varied, they use new moves and they actually move and even guard against your attacks! Game is not so bad after you get used to mash buttons like in God of War. But they really need to simplify the controller.

In the old DMC games you could target an enemy, use roll/dash and secondary abilities with just 1 button and this gave you space to time your combos, cancels and stuffwhile in this game you need 3 hands to play it correctly. You button mash or you die.

Gue1

You were just complaining that the game is now too casual for your tastes, and are now bemoaning that you can't just press random buttons in any sequence to win the game?

So, it's too hard for you now, but still remains casual? I can't keep up...

EDIT: WHOOOPS, misread your post, my bad.

[QUOTE="1PMrFister"]Played it. Some of the movement, jumping in particular, seems a bit stiff. I'm not a fan of the oh-so-gritty death metal style, either. Game didn't really tickle my fancy, so I'll give the full game a pass.dreman999

That's not how you spell Ninja Gaiden Black.DarkLink77

Pardon my need to correct you, but you seem to have misspelled Devil May Cry 3: Special Edition. No worries, my dear chap, everyone makes spelling mistakes from time to time.

Downloading. The gameplay footages look quite good. Now lets see if the game feels good.

best action game of last gen was God of War.

Gue1

[QUOTE="DarkLink77"]That's not how you spell Ninja Gaiden Black.Lucianu

Pardon my need to correct you, but you seem to have misspelled Devil May Cry 3: Special Edition. No worries, my dear chap, everyone makes spelling mistakes from time to time.

[QUOTE="1PMrFister"]

Yeah, Bayonetta did set a new standard for fast and fluid style-oriented combat.GD1551

It absolutely did not......

[QUOTE="Zeviander"][QUOTE="finalfantasy94"]I found HS and enslaved very enjoyable games.DarkLink77

Ninja Theory can't design good combat to save their lives.

So I gave the demo a go, and did so with no real expectations. Overall, I kinda liked it. It has more than a fair share of issues, but I can see myself renting the game when it's released.

• Combat is brutal and fairly satisfying. I like how you can seamlessly change between Dante's sword, scythe, and axe. The control is a little on the stiff side, but once you get used to them you're able to pull off some pretty sweet moves.
• Despite it being 30FPS, performance is consistent (at least on 360). Never experienced any noticable framerate dip while playing.
• The game seems to be on the easy side. On the second hardest difficulty, enemies weren't intimidating, not even in groups. Throughout the first section my health never went down less than half. More health was taken during the boss fight, but that was mainly due to me playing recklessly. It's also easier to get combo rankings to A/S, as the game seems to be lenient in you performing the same combos for the most part. The difficulty isn't nearly as demanding as DMC3, or the other titles that don't have a 2 next to it.
• Great visual design. A little too much bloom, but I love the vibrant tone.
• Dante doesn't seem to be any better (or worse) than what Dante was like in DMC3. I'm indifferent towards him, although the scene before the boss fight was just very, very bad.
• It presents some very interesting ideas in regards to level design and to a lesser extent, pacing. At the least it was interesting enough to make me want to see what the full game has to offer.

At this rate, it seems to be better than 2 and 4, but miles away from 1 and 3.

[QUOTE="DarkLink77"]That's not how you spell Ninja Gaiden Black.Lucianu

Pardon my need to correct you, but you seem to have misspelled Devil May Cry 3: Special Edition. No worries, my dear chap, everyone makes spelling mistakes from time to time.

You misspelled Devil May Cry 3: Dante's Awakening. The P*ssy Edition is not the true DMC3 experience.

[QUOTE="DarkLink77"]

[QUOTE="Zeviander"] I found the HS demo so laughably dull, I barely made it part the first fight. I guess being used to a higher quality action game (DMC3/4, Bayonetta) I came to expect more from the combat.jg4xchamp

Ninja Theory can't design good combat to save their lives.

Devil May Cry is leagues better than Ninja Gaiden, admit it now!

And also Devil May Cry 3 is the best action game of last gen, followed by God of War 2, then God of War, and yeah sure we can give NGB fourth place.

[QUOTE="Zeviander"][QUOTE="finalfantasy94"]I found HS and enslaved very enjoyable games.DarkLink77

Ninja Theory can't design good combat to save their lives.

• The game seems to be on the easy side. On the second hardest difficulty, enemies weren't intimidating, not even in groups. Throughout the first section my health never went down less than half. More health was taken during the boss fight, but that was mainly due to me playing recklessly. It's also easier to get combo rankings to A/S, as the game seems to be lenient in you performing the same combos for the most part. The difficulty isn't nearly as demanding as DMC3, or the other titles that don't have a 2 next to it.

drinkerofjuice

Alongside Easy, Normal and Hard you also get:

• Son of Sparda- Remixed enemy layouts, tougher enemies and enemy behavior throughout.
• Dante Must Die- As above, but contains the strongest enemies and insane attack waves.
• Heaven or Hell- Another remixed mode, but everyone and everything, including Dante, dies after one hit. Supremely satisfying!
• Hell and Hell- The same as above, but only Dante dies after one hit. For serious contenders.

[QUOTE="Lucianu"]

[QUOTE="DarkLink77"]That's not how you spell Ninja Gaiden Black.Master_ShakeXXX

Pardon my need to correct you, but you seem to have misspelled Devil May Cry 3: Special Edition. No worries, my dear chap, everyone makes spelling mistakes from time to time.

You misspelled Devil May Cry 3: Dante's Awakening. The P*ssy Edition is not the true DMC3 experience.

[QUOTE="Master_ShakeXXX"]

[QUOTE="Lucianu"]

Pardon my need to correct you, but you seem to have misspelled Devil May Cry 3: Special Edition. No worries, my dear chap, everyone makes spelling mistakes from time to time.

freedomfreak

You misspelled Devil May Cry 3: Dante's Awakening. The P*ssy Edition is not the true DMC3 experience.

They p*ssified it.

I can't really blame them. Not everybody was manly enough to complete the hardcore and legendary DMC3: Dante's Awakening, so a training wheels version was needed to appease the sniveling weaklings. Thus the DMC3: P*ssy Edition was born.

Need to try this demo to see how much they ruined my favourite hack and slash.

Stringerboy

They p*ssified it.

I can't really blame them. Not everybody was manly enough to complete the hardcore and legendary DMC3: Dante's Awakening, so a training wheels version was needed to appease the sniveling weaklings. Thus the DMC3: P*ssy Edition was born.

Master_ShakeXXX

That's part of the reason why NGB is a superior hack n'slash. It was as tough as it was fair.

[QUOTE="freedomfreak"][QUOTE="Master_ShakeXXX"]

You misspelled Devil May Cry 3: Dante's Awakening. The P*ssy Edition is not the true DMC3 experience.

Master_ShakeXXX

They p*ssified it.

I can't really blame them. Not everybody was manly enough to complete the hardcore and legendary DMC3: Dante's Awakening, so a training wheels version was needed to appease the sniveling weaklings. Thus the DMC3: P*ssy Edition was born.

It's so hard to pick through the true criticisms and the fanboyish hatred. I'm going to have to download this myself I suppose.

Twin-Blade

This. Looks great, but I guess I will have to see for myself.

[QUOTE="freedomfreak"][QUOTE="Master_ShakeXXX"]

You misspelled Devil May Cry 3: Dante's Awakening. The P*ssy Edition is not the true DMC3 experience.

Master_ShakeXXX

They p*ssified it.

I can't really blame them. Not everybody was manly enough to complete the hardcore and legendary DMC3: Dante's Awakening, so a training wheels version was needed to appease the sniveling weaklings. Thus the DMC3: P*ssy Edition was born.

They added one easier difficulty and made it the standard difficulty. That's really it. And the gold/yellow orb.

The game also added 9999 level survival mode as well as an entirely new character.

edit: And for the record, I DID beat the original DMC3 before getting SE.

Played it, liked it :D. Artstyle and visuals are both fantastic imo. Combat has a lot of potential (hard to judge by a short tutorial level and part of a boss fight). Most moves are available in a single (double) button press (L2/R2 + face button to get additional moves). You can manipulate your enemies in typical ways by launching, pulling them towards you, pulling yourself towards them, juggle them and so on. All moves feel great imo. This is clearly way above the combat Ninja Theory has made before.

The thing I didn't like was that there were too many cutscenes disrupting the flow. Take for example when you enter the church via a cutscene. You run forward litereay two meters and another cutscene starts. You make a handful of jumps and then another cutscene. This is true for all the platforming sequences in the demo. I want to be in the action rather than watching it. If I'm going to jump through a window I want to be in control while it happens, not watch it from an outside camera. I wonder if this type of modern design is a result of the limited RAM. That they have to use frequent cut-scenes to hide the loading times.

[QUOTE="drinkerofjuice"]

• The game seems to be on the easy side. On the second hardest difficulty, enemies weren't intimidating, not even in groups. Throughout the first section my health never went down less than half. More health was taken during the boss fight, but that was mainly due to me playing recklessly. It's also easier to get combo rankings to A/S, as the game seems to be lenient in you performing the same combos for the most part. The difficulty isn't nearly as demanding as DMC3, or the other titles that don't have a 2 next to it.

balfe1990

Alongside Easy, Normal and Hard you also get:

• Son of Sparda- Remixed enemy layouts, tougher enemies and enemy behavior throughout.
• Dante Must Die- As above, but contains the strongest enemies and insane attack waves.
• Heaven or Hell- Another remixed mode, but everyone and everything, including Dante, dies after one hit. Supremely satisfying!
• Hell and Hell- The same as above, but only Dante dies after one hit. For serious contenders.

[QUOTE="balfe1990"]

[QUOTE="drinkerofjuice"]

• The game seems to be on the easy side. On the second hardest difficulty, enemies weren't intimidating, not even in groups. Throughout the first section my health never went down less than half. More health was taken during the boss fight, but that was mainly due to me playing recklessly. It's also easier to get combo rankings to A/S, as the game seems to be lenient in you performing the same combos for the most part. The difficulty isn't nearly as demanding as DMC3, or the other titles that don't have a 2 next to it.

Sushiglutton

Alongside Easy, Normal and Hard you also get:

• Son of Sparda- Remixed enemy layouts, tougher enemies and enemy behavior throughout.
• Dante Must Die- As above, but contains the strongest enemies and insane attack waves.
• Heaven or Hell- Another remixed mode, but everyone and everything, including Dante, dies after one hit. Supremely satisfying!
• Hell and Hell- The same as above, but only Dante dies after one hit. For serious contenders.

[QUOTE="Lucianu"]

[QUOTE="DarkLink77"]That's not how you spell Ninja Gaiden Black.Master_ShakeXXX

Pardon my need to correct you, but you seem to have misspelled Devil May Cry 3: Special Edition. No worries, my dear chap, everyone makes spelling mistakes from time to time.

You misspelled Devil May Cry 3: Dante's Awakening. The P*ssy Edition is not the true DMC3 experience.

People already expanded upon what i was gonna say, more or less so am gonna just say that playing as Virgil >>>> your complaint, man.

[QUOTE="finalfantasy94"]I found HS and enslaved very enjoyable games.Zeviander

I played and enjoyed dmc3 and still had fun with HS.

[QUOTE="Zeviander"][QUOTE="finalfantasy94"]I found HS and enslaved very enjoyable games.finalfantasy94

I played and enjoyed dmc3 and still had fun with HS.

[QUOTE="Zeviander"][QUOTE="PSP107"]I also thought Dante's mother is human. Where this angel stuff coming from?DarkLink77

well cant really compare to your halo 4 situation since halo 4 is actually connected to the other games. While this dmc is a different universe.

Played it, liked it :D. Artstyle and visuals are both fantastic imo. Combat has a lot of potential (hard to judge by a short tutorial level and part of a boss fight). Most moves are available in a single (double) button press (L2/R2 + face button to get additional moves). You can manipulate your enemies in typical ways by launching, pulling them towards you, pulling yourself towards them, juggle them and so on. All moves feel great imo. This is clearly way above the combat Ninja Theory has made before.

The thing I didn't like was that there were too many cutscenes disrupting the flow. Take for example when you enter the church via a cutscene. You run forward litereay two meters and another cutscene starts. You make a handful of jumps and then another cutscene. This is true for all the platforming sequences in the demo. I want to be in the action rather than watching it. If I'm going to jump through a window I want to be in control while it happens, not watch it from an outside camera. I wonder if this type of modern design is a result of the limited RAM. That they have to use frequent cut-scenes to hide the loading times.

Sushiglutton

I agree. I hope they take this experiance and grow from it.

[QUOTE="dreman999"][QUOTE="1PMrFister"] I've never played a DMC game before this, and even if I did, it still doesn't change the fact that what I witnessed in the demo did nothing for me. I'll be sticking to Bayonetta 2 whenever that gets released.1PMrFister

Actually, even though I prefer Bayonetta's combat, NG combat feels more fluid and faster then the Bayonetta combat. So imho it didnt set any new standard, it just made its own thing

Just played the demo

My final impressions, coming from an HUGE hack'n'slash fan (Including Bayonetta, DMC, NG, GoW)

Graphics: Serviceable

Combat: Fluid and fun. A great job all around. It feels DMC in its core but with its own tweak. The 30fps are noticeable but didnt though they were that big of a deal. The combat felt fluid for the most part. Yes, it sucks that isnt 60fps but we get what we get. If we're gonna ditch every game for not being 60fps we would miss greatly

Enemy design: Not really a fan of it but its not bad either

Artsyle: I still prefer the gothic feeling of previous DMC but the new take also has its interesting visuals

Difficulty: Standard. I beat it on the Hard difficulty (the one before Son of Sparda) and still gave me a challenge. I died once in the boss fight and had to use the yellow orb. I take it this will be in early levels so it'll be like other DMC (Seriously, the early levels in all DMC were more or same as difficult as these ones, I felt, only maybe the original DMC3 was harder)

Cons: I'm dont like the lack of a lock'on mecanic or the fact that I need to constantly press square to fire the guns normally. Having to hold R2/L2 for using different weapons is also unintuitive. I would prefer for them to let us change the weapons with only one button press

Overall I really liked what I played and seen so far. In the beggining I had my doubts on NT capability at combat mechanics but as an open-minded person I believe this game will turn out good in the end (here hoping it does). Cant wait for the final product