DF: Hands-On With Xbox Series X + Xbox Series X Complete Specs

For Minecraft DXR (Tier 1.0) which is the full path trace raytracing.

RTX 2080 Ti reference card: 1080p ~60 fps, better on AIB OC and RTX 2080 Ti FE.

XSX GPU: 1080p 30 to 60 fps

On DXR Tier 1.0, RTX 2080 Ti still has the advantage over XSX GPU.

Expect RTX 2080 level for XSX.

VRS (Variable Rate Shading) and DXR Tier 1.1 benefits Turing RTX, Ampere RTX and RDNA 2X.

Fan + lower energy state air molecules absorb IR frequency range photons from vapor cooler's metal fins which emits IR frequency range photons.

This is why fan doesn't NOT directly cool the GPU.

Normal Joe doesn't give a damn about the technical aspects.

have you managed to even confuse yourself...

This is foliage level silly. If not worse.

That's a fancy way of saying the fan cools a hot device...

Holy crap dude. Just stop.

@goldenelementxl: Why would I call a fan anything else if it blew down instead of up? It's a fan, and I said "you people" are arguing over the stupidest thing.... not "you".

Both sides are being pedantic.

Go into a store and ask for a cooling fan. You'll get a fan that blows one direction, and if you ask for an extraction fan it'll blow in the other. They're still fans, and this whole discussion is the very definition of arguing semantics.

MS and digital foundry confirm a beast of a console with some outstanding features but the main topic of conversation is it’s fan HAH

SW in a nutshell

But not surprising from a forum who users claim units sold is king HAH

@Grey_Eyed_Elf: Gears 5 is already 4K/60fps on the X1X.

I don't think there's any excuse for games not to run at 4K 60 next gen it has to be the standard.

@ronvalencia:

Will the Xbox series X over heat without a fan yes or no?

I'm skeptical to that cooling design. People will have it standing under a TV, and the hot air will break it. There is a reason why electronics usually push air out the back. And it looks crammed, like the air has very little space to flow through.

No this discussion has exposed just how little some of you know about things.

Go into a store and ask for a "cooling" fan and then ask for a "extraction" fan. The clerk will laugh at you, probably slap you, and then proceed to hand you the same goddamn fan

Yikes, indeed, the brigade of MS/Xbox anti-fans are looking high and low for anything and I mean anything bad to say and the Fan is the best they can do. Good stuff. lolol

It's official; XSX has the most Fans in the stands. :P

@SecretPolice: Well that’s not what happened at all. I brought up a legitimate concern about the cooling and airflow, and the Xbox Boys decided to create an alternate universe where fans don’t cool things. That’s the level of delusion on this board. People have to exist in an alternate reality in order to feel good about their favorite console. Any questions or concerns about that console is an attack on their existence.

@goldenelementxl: Oh heavens. My point is that a fan is a fan, it just depends on which direction it is turning as to whether it extracts.

At least be honest. You're on SW and have a need to hate on anything related to xbox....if it's not the expansion cards it's the cooling. That's fine. That's sw.

The "I wish that fan the best of luck" wasn't bringing up "legitimate concerns", it was just something...anything...to have a dig at an unreleased lump of plastic.

I'd be surprised if the xsx would have a problem with heat. It runs quieter than current gen consoles, and it makes sense that a fan pulling air through a narrower tube would suck more heat out than in a wider one.

https://www.ccn.com/microsoft-really-is-getting-your-xbox-series-x-to-run-like-a-fridge/

@Martin_G_N:

I wouldn't be worried. We're not looking at the amount of heating needed to harm a TV and besides TVs are built to withstand pretty high temperatures. You can also lay it on its side.

One X

1. I don't support removing the fan from XSX viewpoint

2. Fan is not IR energy absorbing (cooling) medium.

XSX's cooling solution is like a larger scale PC GPU card blower with larger than X1X's vapor cooler.

The contact side copper metal is large and it's form fitting to the SOC.

@sealionact: X1X reaches 65C on the outlet, blowing that air straight into the heat sinks on the TV could be harmfull, or even just up on the panel could shorten the lifespan of the TV. Yes, you can put it on the side, but most people won't think about what the hot air is hitting. And the design is sort of shown as standing, so this is what most people will do. The outlet can also easily get blocked by a shelf above and so on.

Jesus.

Both positive pressure fans (blowing inward) and negative pressure fans (sucking air outward) serve the same function: drawing air actively across heat generating components to dissipate said heat - and helping it make its exit. Good enclosure design makes use of both in concert to maximize cooling, but with limited space that's not an option and MS made the choice to focus on negative pressure - which is generally considered to be the more efficient COOLING fan of the two, if you had to choose. This is why all PCs come with at least exhaust.

Airflow will be essential to a device this cramped - do NOT underestimate the importance of that fan to keeping it cool. The hot air HAS to be actively drawn out or your shit will cook

@xantufrog: Why do you hate Xbox so much?

@goldenelementxl: because I'm a dirty desperate fanboy

Y'all still over feeding the troll?😂🤣

Got nothing else to do lol. Work is a bit slow these days.

@ronvalencia:

I don't care what you support buffoon.

Does the series X would over heat without a Fan yes or not?

Stop spinning the series X has a damn fan,because of the reason PC have fans,with them the system over heat period,I learn that when I study PC repair long ago bro stop.

The series X is no a cell phone is a damn console with 1800+MHz and 8 core CPU.

It need a fan for COOLING PERIOD.

Yeah I just checked but while its 60FPS its not 4K, Dynamic resolution from 1584p to 4K and the settings aren't on PC ultra... Where as the XSX is native 4K with Ultra PC setting and new graphical improvements.

Overpriced, lacking in games etc.

Did your internet get turned off?

@x_hedon: Nope, still working.

Ah, ok. You just need to learn how to use it. My bad.

@x_hedon: Nope, still using it correct.

I can confirm you are not. The first step for you is acceptance.

1. Fuk0ff

2. You're not going to box me in. Fuk0ff.,

3. After the vapor cooler, the primary IR photon absorption medium is the lower energy state air molecules.

The active participant that cools the vapor cooler's metal fin is the lower energy state air molecules.

Higher energy state air molecules (aka hot air) need to be replaced with lower energy state air molecules (aka cool air).

You need a fan to move higher energy state air molecules (aka hot air) away from vapor cooler's IR emission metal fins.

That's basic physics 101.

4. That's not my argument.

Actually, fans don't cool things i.e. it's the cool air (i.e. lower energy state air molecules) that absorbs IR photons being emitted by vapor cooler's metal fins. A fan moves the hot air and replacing it with cool air.

Fans don't cause air molecules to reduce their energy state. A very high-pressure/high-velocity airflow fan can increase air temperature i.e. it's call air fiction.

Laser cooling method doesn't need a fan. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Laser_cooling A very expensive cooling method.

Stop denying science.

"This is why fan doesn't NOT directly cool the GPU."

That's a double negative...sooooooo it does directly cool the gpu?

@Pedro said:

Actually ovens don't bake things, it's the baker that puts the pastries in the oven then the oven bakes them...

Seriously though, I know what he means lol. He just means that the fan doesn't just blow on the component and uses its wind to cool them down.

1-No man you are the one who need to f*** off.

2-I am not buxing you into anything you MS ass kisser,would the xbox series X over heat without a Fan yes or NO?

I answer that for you YES IT WOULD BECAUSE THERE WOULD NOT BE AIR CIRCULATION INSIDE THE MACHINE,THE HEAT PRODUCE BY THE SOC AND OTHER INSIDE COMPONENTS AS MEMORY AND EVEN SSD WOULD FORCE IT TO SHUT DOWN TO PROTECT IT SELF RATHER QUICK,JUST LIKE PC DO WHEN OVER HEATING.

So claiming fans don't cool PC is a freaking lie is call cooling solution for a reason.

3-STFU most PC have a fan seating on top of a heatsink for a damn reason without the fan most cooling solutions fail,i my self has had fans fail and my PC would simply shut down for it period.

You afre deflecting answering a staright question by explaining what a heat sink or other methop of cooling do to deal with heat,fact is if you take the fan out of the series X the machine would over heat,because irrelevant of how vapor chamber help lowering the heat without the fan to circulate air the machine would over heat,same primciple with radiators,even with water colant circulating if the fan fail your car over heats.

4-No you are going through increadible hoops to claim fans don't cool components,when in reality if there is nothing to MOVE the hot air the machine would simply over heat of yeah it is a freaking cooling fan.

Get a damn spine and stop making bullshit argument in order to not loose an argument you look pathetic and you are not winning the argument.

Over priced? Hahahahaaa There is a difference between something been over priced and something been EXPENSIVE.

Over priced refer to something not worth the asking price,the PS3 was worth every damn cent and more,in fact hardware wise much more than the cheap built xbox 360.

And in games while they didn't have the best ones,the PS3 was backward compatible with 2 freaking and complete generations,instant classics like FF7,tactics,8,9,Tekken 3,MK3 and several sequels,gran turismo,twisted metal,mgs,all grand theft auto games,god of war,all PS2 and PS1 games were there day 1.

This is why i say lemmings are a joke,so BC is great and need it,and something to count as an advatage for the xbox,but when the PS3 was BC with 2 full generations not like shitty broken ass BC on xbox 360,the PS3 had no games.

This is what i refer to,and is lol worthy BC count only when sony doesn't has it and MS does.

Pathetic.

My god you are incredibly pathetic man you are beyond help.

We freaking know how fans work and how heat sink,vapor chambers and all that crap work,but the is an innescapable fact that without the fan the xbox or the PS will simply over heat,so again it is a cooling fan,and it cool the system by moving hot air out,the fact that a heat sink or other device dicipate the heat doesnt negate that without something to extra say heat the machine would stop working.

You are arguing over stupid sematics.

But no one is arguing that,and still if you don't have a fan those heat sink or vapor chambers serve you for nothing,so if the fan is not there the machine would over heat,so well it is a cooling fan because it cool the system by moving hot air out.🤷‍♂️

Ronvalencia just has problem admitting some things,well you already know how he is.

@goldenelementxl said:

@ronvalencia said:

Actually, fans don't cool things
A fan moves the hot air and replacing it with cool air.

Stop denying science.

That is now my sig. This needs to be remembered for all time!

@tormentos: Your understanding is on cooling is science ignorance. My argument is not about removing the fan from XSX.

My argument is about active medium that cools vapor cooling metal fins and that's air particles. In space, GPS satellite uses laser cooling method due to near vacuum of space. Fan doesn't cool objects in the near vacuum of space.

Try again noob

You are pathetic man and your spining is even more pathetic,a fan is a cooling fan period,without it the machine would over heat,the rest is just your usual spins.

Were the fu** did i say fan cool things in Space? Were did i imply that fan are the only method of cooling and show were the fu** the xbox series X has its laser cooling.

Again you are the master of arguing bullshit no one is arguing just to try to win an argument.

On the xbox series X the fan serve as a cooling fan period,which is why it has one,if not i am sure MS would have not put it in.

1. Fan is refreshing hot air with cool air.

2. Air is the IR energy absorber.

You're a master for being a noob.

@ronvalencia: Lol! “Refreshing” hot air with cool air

You’re such a goof

Displacing hot air with cool air.

You're such a noob.