Dark Souls VS. The Witcher 2

So...which one is better? I've heard the debate between Dark Souls and Skyrim way too much around here, I mean first of all their $+y|es are completely different (different camera view, different game play structures ((Dark Souls is a much more free roam game than Demon Souls but it doesn't have the freedom of the Elder Scrolls game and it's more heavily focused on combat)), different limitations, different freedom movement, and different in the focuses that each game has ((From Software focused highly on improving the combat in Dark Souls and giving it more freedom while Skyrim is (((hoepfully))) going to improve on not the freedom but the things to DO in said freedom and maybe in its combat)).

Now the Witcher 2 on the other hand isn't COMPLETELY the same with Dark Souls but the games have better similarities than Skyrim VS. Dark Souls. So that's the question? Which one is better? I haven't played either of them so my opinion doesn't really count towards this but based on what I've seen I think The Witcher 2 might just be a wee bit better than Dark Souls. Dark Souls sounds awesome and the combat looks incredibly amazing but the challenge has me on edge and from what I've heard it's not excatly good challenge, it's challenge where you LEARN the game and what is coming at you like one monster comes and you die then you go back and that time you KNOW what you're about to face and can prepare for it. From what I've seen on the Witcher 2 it's more of a challenge as instead you need to strategize, bring the right weapons, heal yourself before battles, and attack the right enemies so that you can dish out maxium devestation. Not to mention the story seems truly incredible with an amazing choice system at work and actually an impact when making said choices.

I don't know...maybe I'm p!$$ing on Dark Souls, maybe it has some of that stuff too but like I said I don't own either games so my opinion is hollow. All I want to know is what system wars thinks on the two. So? What is your opinion? :?

I have played both and they are nothing alike.

Dark souls has fantastic boss design and some fantastic art design. The lack of any significant story (which it isn't meant to have) whilst refreshing, sometimes left things a little disjointed.

The Witcher 2 wins out for me (and I have yet to complete it). The world is fantastic, along with the art design, and Geralt is up there as one of the better protagonists this gen, personally.

I still haven´t played Dark Souls,but if it´s anything like Demon´s Souls(and it is),then The Witcher 2,no doubt about it.

The Witcher 2 was great but really short. Main quest is under 20 hours.

If the Witcher 2 wasn't so short then it would be: Demon Souls>Witcher 2>Dark Souls

Dark Souls is a more rewarding game, however the Witcher 2 pretty much screams quality throughout. The story is pretty good, the swordplay is great, and the graphics are excellent (if you have a good rig especially). As much as I have enjoyed Dark Souls I would choose the Witcher 2 I think.

My best game this year is actually The Witcher 2 so the answer is easy for me.

The story is solid and full of choices and possible outcomes (great interaction). The main character, Geralt is probably my favorite game character ever. The world is full of atmosphere and life. The artwork is top notch and the graphics might be the best ever seen in a game (if you have the hardware for it).

The two games are nothing alike. Dark souls is a freaking dungeon crawler with a deep combat sytem and the witcher 2 is a full rpg with a heavy focus on story telling and characters.

It's like comparing diablo to freaking Planescape torment. Team fortress to Arma. and so on

But if I had to pick one of the two, I would go with the witcher 2 because the world felt so alive and the characters also brought that world to life. One small stroll through the forest of flotsam.........words cannot describe how so lifelike it was. You have to play it to understand and I'm sure a lot of people here will agree.

I'd say they, at least in the state on wich they launched, suffered from the same problems. Lack of decent tutorial, some bugs and glitches, and uneven difficulty. These problems aside (they have improved a lot in Witcher 2) they are totaly different games. It seens to me though, that the Witcher 2 boasts more quality and production values and, *imo*, it is a better game.

While Dark Souls is a very nice game, throughout the game you can get very uneven experiences. Some parts are a joy to play and conquer, others seens to drag with bore and buggy design (such as BlightTown or Crystal Cave in a lesser degree). By the time you get to end game, at least to me, it became far too easy. The ledges presents more danger than the bosses themselves. In a game like Dark Souls it is a major problem. While the Witcher 2 suffered from almost the same problem (it gets easy late in the game), the story carried it forward since it didn't suffered from similar problems. As we know it, Dark Souls is all gameplay and (almost) no story.

I am biased though because my 360 just RRODED 2 bosses to the end.

Well this is a Silly argument as it brings two different kinds of taste. I for one bought the Witcher Enhanced edition ( part 1 ) and the game dragged sometimes for even over an hour of you going back and forth talking across the city and the game piles up it's play time this way.... this isn't playing a game :S is stalling. I haven't finished the game and i'm not going to for the way the game works. So I haven't tried part 2 and i'm not going to so Dark Souls wins for me.

What's up with these strange vs threads? The two games are nothing alike. Dark souls is a freaking dungeon crawler with a deep combat sytem and the witcher 2 is a full rpg with a heavy focus on story telling and characters.

I mean hell, let's start comparing diablo to freaking Planescape torment. Team fortress to Arma. and so on

But if I had to pick one of the two, I would go with the witcher 2 because the world felt so alive and the characters also brought that world to life. One small stroll through the forest of flotsam.........words cannot describe how so lifelike it was. You have to play it to understand and I'm sure a lot of people here will agree.

omenodebander

Diablo. Team Fortress 2. :P

Witcher 2 and yes ive played Dark Souls for like 7 hours.

I prefer The Witcher 2, but I'm gonna give Dark Souls an extended chance.

I liked dark souls. I also enjoyed the original witcher more than the witcher 2. I felt the story was stronger, and being separated into 5 chapters kept my attention than 2 LONG ones with a short final chapter. It seemed like chapter 2 just dragged on, and something INSANE didn't happen after each chapter like in the original game...tho there always was a small twist. I got bored with being in the same area after doing a number of sidequests, then I would just skip on to the main story line. the combat was definitely more refined, but I feel as if the witcher is more of a story based game, and the 2nd game wasn't too strong as the first in that aspect. [spoiler] In my game I chose roche's side. I went and saved triss instead of temaria, and I left sile in the tower..I killed the dragon. [/spoiler] . Maybe if I picked something else I would have found the game more enjoyable.

as for dark souls, it's primarily gameplay based which is what I loved, so I'm probably biased when asked this question, but being that there were more than 3 'areas', dark souls always felt fresh. There were an insane amount of boss fights (which I also loved) whereas the boss fights in the witcher 2 felt lackluster...especially the final boss. I actually liked demon's souls more than dark souls too since there were a lot of new issues that should have been fixed long before release.

I've beaten both games, and for me, dark souls > the witcher 2 (just as demon's souls > the witcher)

The two games are nothing alike. Dark souls is a freaking dungeon crawler with a deep combat sytem and the witcher 2 is a full rpg with a heavy focus on story telling and characters.

It's like comparing diablo to freaking Planescape torment. Team fortress to Arma. and so on

But if I had to pick one of the two, I would go with the witcher 2 because the world felt so alive and the characters also brought that world to life. One small stroll through the forest of flotsam.........words cannot describe how so lifelike it was. You have to play it to understand and I'm sure a lot of people here will agree.

omenodebander

Yes, just strolling through the forest in flotsam was amazing. With the realtime day and night time cycle and real time weather changes I mean, WOW! Walking through it at day time and it was just beautiful, never before have I seen a forest depicted so beautifully in a video game. But enter it at nightime and the forest became like this haunted thing. The attention the detail and atmosphere is just amazing.

Dark souls is not in the same genre though so they should be compared as video game to video game.

I would echo the general consensus on in this Tread with: "Wtf? the games are nothing alike"

I see Dark Souls being far more akin to Diablo 3, and that would likely be a better comparison then the witcher two and dark souls.

The better RPG is The witcher 2, since it is one of the few true RPGs left, with attention to the world around you, the characters that inhabits it, the choices and consequenses youpick, the combat is average at best.

Dark souls have some really good envioments, but the world around you does not feel vibrant or alive (which to Dark souls favout should be added, that it would REALLY feel wrong if it did), it has really good combat, and impressive and fun enemies (most seem to be reinventions of theD&D monsters (like its predecessor)) Generally when I see DArk souls I think "Ravenloft" (+20 nerd points to anyone who understood that comment).

Both pretty much excell in what they do, so in the end my answer comes down to "If you mean as an RPG? The Witcher 2" "If you mean a Roguelike'ish Dungeon crawler? Dark Souls"

Thier overall production values, visions, and execution is pretty close to identical to me, its just VERY different things they set out to do.

So My suggestion would be to make a thread like this When D3 comes out, those two are VERY similar in alot of areas, and that would be a more interresting debate.

I liked dark souls. I also enjoyed the original witcher more than the witcher 2. I felt the story was stronger, and being separated into 5 chapters kept my attention than 2 LONG ones with a short final chapter. It seemed like chapter 2 just dragged on, and something INSANE didn't happen after each chapter like in the original game...tho there always was a small twist. I got bored with being in the same area after doing a number of sidequests, then I would just skip on to the main story line. the combat was definitely more refined, but I feel as if the witcher is more of a story based game, and the 2nd game wasn't too strong as the first in that aspect.

as for dark souls, it's primarily gameplay based which is what I loved, so I'm probably biased when asked this question, but being that there were more than 3 'areas', dark souls always felt fresh. There were an insane amount of boss fights (which I also loved) whereas the boss fights in the witcher 2 felt lackluster...especially the final boss. I actually liked demon's souls more than dark souls too since there were a lot of new issues that should have been fixed long before release.

I've beaten both games, and for me, dark souls > the witcher 2 (just as demon's souls > the witcher)

Some-Mist

You need to pick the other option.. badly. I honestly thought that the choice you made was definitely more boring than going with the other option (I went with the better option my first time around). I played through again to see it from the other side and had I played it that way the first time around it would have definitely left a bad impression.

I would echo the general consensus on in this Tread with: "Wtf? the games are nothing alike"

I see Dark Souls being far more akin to Diablo 3, and that would likely be a better comparison then the witcher two and dark souls.

The better RPG is The witcher 2, since it is one of the few true RPGs left, with attention to the world around you, the characters that inhabits it, the choices and consequenses youpick, the combat is average at best.

Dark souls have some really good envioments, but the world around you does not feel vibrant or alive (which to Dark souls favout should be added, that it would REALLY feel wrong if it did), it has really good combat, and impressive and fun enemies (most seem to be reinventions of theD&D monsters (like its predecessor)) Generally when I see DArk souls I think "Ravenloft" (+20 nerd points to anyone who understood that comment).

Both pretty much excell in what they do, so in the end my answer comes down to "If you mean as an RPG? The Witcher 2" "If you mean a Roguelike'ish Dungeon crawler? Dark Souls"

Thier overall production values, visions, and execution is pretty close to identical to me, its just VERY different things they set out to do.

So My suggestion would be to make a thread like this When D3 comes out, those two are VERY similar in alot of areas, and that would be a more interresting debate.

Maddie_Larkin

Pretty much....... And +50 points just for mentioning Ravenloft, I would give you a high five just for that.

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I liked dark souls. I also enjoyed the original witcher more than the witcher 2. I felt the story was stronger, and being separated into 5 chapters kept my attention than 2 LONG ones with a short final chapter. It seemed like chapter 2 just dragged on, and something INSANE didn't happen after each chapter like in the original game...tho there always was a small twist. I got bored with being in the same area after doing a number of sidequests, then I would just skip on to the main story line. the combat was definitely more refined, but I feel as if the witcher is more of a story based game, and the 2nd game wasn't too strong as the first in that aspect.

as for dark souls, it's primarily gameplay based which is what I loved, so I'm probably biased when asked this question, but being that there were more than 3 'areas', dark souls always felt fresh. There were an insane amount of boss fights (which I also loved) whereas the boss fights in the witcher 2 felt lackluster...especially the final boss. I actually liked demon's souls more than dark souls too since there were a lot of new issues that should have been fixed long before release.

I've beaten both games, and for me, dark souls > the witcher 2 (just as demon's souls > the witcher)

GD1551

You need to pick the other option.. badly. I honestly thought that the choice you made was definitely more boring than going with the other option (I went with the better option my first time around). I played through again to see it from the other side and had I played it that way the first time around it would have definitely left a bad impression.

Dark Souls got pretty boring fast

sigh....I did what I wanted to do.

Some-Mist

Meant the latter, not sure if this part is a spoiler or not so I'm just cutting it out of the quote.

I can't really relate to all those who down play the combat elements in the Witcher 2.

I think for the game it is, the combat is fun, fast and fluid with a decent amount of depth. Geralt also fights like one would imagine him to fight. For some reason even though it doesn't have the same complexity of DS it just about feels right.

Using different traps, bombs, spells, potions, with a lot of freedom to choose how you want to fight. I like it.

Dark Souls because I love a good challenge and it's RPG of the year so far.

Dark Souls because I love a good challenge and it's RPG of the year so far.

HaloPimp978

thats a tough question but ive only played the witcher 2 once while im playing through dark souls on new game + now with a lot more time invested in it, dark souls has me hooked think im only lvl 109 :(

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Dark Souls because I love a good challenge and it's RPG of the year so far.

Arach666

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[QUOTE="HaloPimp978"]

Dark Souls because I love a good challenge and it's RPG of the year so far.

pcps360

[QUOTE="pcps360"][QUOTE="Arach666"] If you like a good challenge then TW2 provides even greater challenge than DS,considering that in the hardest dificulty setting you die once and it´s game over. Like,really over.

Arach666

demons souls is a lot easier than dark souls... dark souls is less frustrating though thanks to the check point bonfire system :)

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Dark Souls because I love a good challenge and it's RPG of the year so far.

Arach666

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Dark Souls because I love a good challenge and it's RPG of the year so far.

Grawse

[QUOTE="Arach666"][QUOTE="pcps360"] obviously, you never played dark souls, the difficulty in withcer 2 only exist in prog and first chapter where you have to fight multi plate armored knight at once with crappy, and the monster and half QTE boss are baby sitting, just not as much fun. not to mention the witcher 2 got no character development whatsoever other than your haircut. I wouldn't make a verdict on an unknown object if I were you. Yrkoon99

demons souls is a lot easier than dark souls... dark souls is less frustrating though thanks to the check point bonfire system :)

Obviously you cant compare the two games. The only fair way to compare two games is if they are exactly the same without any differences.

:roll:

Its not like he is asking us to compared Gran Turismo and Battlefield 3, these are both medieval rpgs, saying they arent comparable is just absurd. What next, you'll say we shouldnt compare a mustang's performance with a focus because one is front wheel drive? The differences are what makes us able to compare them.

I dont get people.

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withcer eh? You made a new alt I see. And no,I never played Dark Souls,but I´ve played through Demon´s Souls,and it´s very much the same thing. And yeah,TW2 on the hardest dificlutly setting is more challenging than the Souls games..

Love both, but loving Dark Souls more.

lol never played it and yet you tried to comment, no TW2 is nowhere as hard as DS nor as funpcps360

I just couldnt get into TW2 and believe me I tried. I havent picked up Dark Souls yet, but I played it for a couple of hours and enjoyed it. Based on what I've played of TW2 and my brief run with DS, I'd have to say DS.

[QUOTE="pcps360"] lol never played it and yet you tried to comment, no TW2 is nowhere as hard as DS nor as funArach666