[QUOTE="KevinButlerVP"]no 7.0 is pretty bad, MAG for example really wasn't good... A means LOTS of flaws that take away from the experience of the gameWanderer5
7.0 is not a bad score and games that got 7s could be worth getting. Heck, 7 on GS means good.
Getting a 7.0 game and it being good is like winning a lottery. Why would I want to take the risk when there are so many better games? 7.0 is the definition of generic, average game.
[QUOTE="xsubtownerx"][QUOTE="KevinButlerVP"] comparing a sequel to a no-name JRPG doesn't workFlamesOfGrey
Why? A flop is a flop, no? Yeah, but the sooner people accept that flop and move on, the quicker the flop threads die. Damage controlling only brings more flaming. So we can't compare flops to other flops anymore without out it being labeled as damage control?
[QUOTE="KevinButlerVP"]no 7.0 is pretty bad, MAG for example really wasn't good... A means LOTS of flaws that take away from the experience of the gameargetlam00
7.0 is not a bad score and games that got 7s could be worth getting. Heck, 7 on GS means good.
Getting a 7.0 game and it being good is like winning a lottery. Why would I want to take the risk when there are so many better games? 7.0 is the definition of generic, average game.
That not true IMO. I sorry but that just sounds close minded to me. Not all 7.0 games all like that. 7.0 games are games that could be great but have noticeable flaws that are usually not gamebreaking and sometimes can be overlook.
7.0 is not a bad score and games that got 7s could be worth getting. Heck, 7 on GS means good.
Wanderer5
Getting a 7.0 game and it being good is like winning a lottery. Why would I want to take the risk when there are so many better games? 7.0 is the definition of generic, average game.
That not true IMO. I sorry but that just sounds close minded to me. Not all 7.0 games all like that. 7.0 games are games that could be great but have noticeable flaws that are usually not gamebreaking and sometimes can be overlook.
What you described sounds like an AA game, not an A game.
While Crackdown is a lot of fun, i think it has to be said that Microsoft just aren't up to scratch this gen when their own first party games have graphics as bad as this. There's no excuse for releasing games significantly below common benchmarks on your own machine.
That's not really surprising. I doubt anyone expected a revolution, or a work of art. Crackdown sets out to be silly fun, and I'm sure it succeeds at that.
[QUOTE="FlamesOfGrey"][QUOTE="xsubtownerx"] Why? A flop is a flop, no?xsubtownerx
Yeah, but the sooner people accept that flop and move on, the quicker the flop threads die. Damage controlling only brings more flaming. So we can't compare flops to other flops anymore without out it being labeled as damage control? How long ago did White Knight Chronicles come out February? He obviously just picked a PS3 game that scored lower then Crackdown regardless of anything to soften the blow of a score which isn't even bad in the first place. They aren't in the same genre either so, it was completely random.
Getting a 7.0 game and it being good is like winning a lottery. Why would I want to take the risk when there are so many better games? 7.0 is the definition of generic, average game.
argetlam00
That not true IMO. I sorry but that just sounds close minded to me. Not all 7.0 games all like that. 7.0 games are games that could be great but have noticeable flaws that are usually not gamebreaking and sometimes can be overlook.
What you described sounds like an AA game, not an A game.
Many A games are like that or heck some of them get underrated for the littlest things, but whatever rocks your boat. I think they can be worth getting if I am interested in them and I can get pass the flaws. Heck Mirror's Edge got a 7 here yet despite it flaws I think its one of the best this gen.
lol. Ouch, way lower than I expected. teh floppage! But this is even worse then the original game, that's a disappointing score. Oh well, I'm still renting it anyways. Maybe I'll love it.
Wait... people care about Crackdown 2? Really? Why....? I get that the first one was fun, kind of a pseudo-MMO experience, but in all honesty it got old pretty fast... and luckily that genre has expanded with games like Infamous, Prototype, etc... from what I've played of the second Crackdown it's starting to feel dated. The graphics, the play experience, the whole sum of the parts is just not what it was at the start of the generation, it's far from as impressive, and it doesn't feel worth your time. Remember kids, every mediocre game you play is less time you're spending playing Starcraft 2. Do you want your country to lose to South Korea? Do you? Are you practicing? ARE YOU? Don't lie to me... put this Crackdown business aside.
I doubt this game can actually be considered a flop since there was hardly any hype.
Stevo_the_gamer
It had AA hype though in the one rather sizable hype thread... granted the demo killed practically all the hype. Did it REALLY have AA hype? Do we honestly think these polls provide an accurate measure of what people expect a game to score?
I doubt this game can actually be considered a flop since there was hardly any hype.
True but Microsoft so is hyping this game. I've seen 15 crackdown 2 commercials in a 3 hr stint of watching tv last night. Since when did quality have anything to do with marketing and sales success in this industry?
[QUOTE="Ninja-Hippo"]Did it REALLY have AA hype? Do we honestly think these polls provide an accurate measure of what people expect a game to score? Stevo_the_gamer
Well, that's hard to say with definitive 100% accuracy. I agree, polls should never be counted. From now on if someone is going to make a hype thread that person should count all the posts of people who actually own 360's to decide it. That's alot of work though.
[QUOTE="Ninja-Hippo"]Did it REALLY have AA hype? Do we honestly think these polls provide an accurate measure of what people expect a game to score? Stevo_the_gamer
Well, that's hard to say with definitive 100% accuracy.
Who cares?
No really? What possible difference does it make what the game was "hyped"? The Crackdown "fanboys" will buy it because its Crackdown, everyone else interested will give it a rent or play the demo to see if it interests them, and the remaining people will most likely shrug and go "wait, people care about Crackdown?". This fighting over "flops" is absurd... doesn't everyone own all of the consoles by this point in the generation anyway? Aren't even the most adamant of "fanboys" pretending at this point?
[QUOTE="Stevo_the_gamer"][QUOTE="Ninja-Hippo"]Did it REALLY have AA hype? Do we honestly think these polls provide an accurate measure of what people expect a game to score? FlamesOfGrey
Well, that's hard to say with definitive 100% accuracy. I agree, polls should never be counted. From now on if someone is going to make a hype thread that person should count all the posts of people who actually own 360's to decide it. That's alot of work though. I said at the top of my hype thread to post your hype afterwards and OF COURSE like 20 people did :P
No really? What possible difference does it make what the game was "hyped"? The Crackdown "fanboys" will buy it because its Crackdown, everyone else interested will give it a rent or play the demo to see if it interests them, and the remaining people will most likely shrug and go "wait, people care about Crackdown?". This fighting over "flops" is absurd... doesn't everyone own all of the consoles by this point in the generation anyway? Aren't even the most adamant of "fanboys" pretending at this point?
subrosian
That's cool, mate. The flop esque material is all in good fun, it's just part of SystemWars culture; you know this because you have written about it in your information thread. But if you don't give a hoot and a hollar about it, well mate, the door is right over there.
Wait... people care about Crackdown 2? Really? Why....?
I get that the first one was fun, kind of a pseudo-MMO experience, but in all honesty it got old pretty fast... and luckily that genre has expanded with games like Infamous, Prototype, etc... from what I've played of the second Crackdown it's starting to feel dated. The graphics, the play experience, the whole sum of the parts is just not what it was at the start of the generation, it's far from as impressive, and it doesn't feel worth your time.
Remember kids, every mediocre game you play is less time you're spending playing Starcraft 2. Do you want your country to lose to South Korea? Do you? Are you practicing? ARE YOU? Don't lie to me... put this Crackdown business aside.subrosian
[QUOTE="KittenWishes"]Excellent reviews, well done Crackdown 2.KevinButlerVP
A reviews are as low as you can go... seems kinda bad to me What's your point? There have been AAA titles that I almost just didn't enjoy (AC I and II, inFamous, Forza 3, etc. I could go on lol) Then there have been A games I've loved like Mirror's Edge and Crackdown. Reviews are just some nerds' opinions
Who cares ;) People just don't get Crackdown :P Was a game for the fans. It's pure fun and awesome, without tons of motion blur and pointless sand. (Just Cause 2!)
[QUOTE="-RocBoys9489-"] Reviews are just some nerds' opinionsVandalvideo
A well educated, comparative opinion based on having been inculcated to a larger number of games over a longer period of time. Pretty much what I meant in a nutshell ;)
[QUOTE="KevinButlerVP"][QUOTE="KittenWishes"]Excellent reviews, well done Crackdown 2.-RocBoys9489-
A reviews are as low as you can go... seems kinda bad to me What's your point? There have been AAA titles that I almost just didn't enjoy (AC I and II, inFamous, Forza 3, etc. I could go on lol) Then there have been A games I've loved like Mirror's Edge and Crackdown. Reviews are just some nerds' opinions those reviewers have more credibility than you have, are you trying to say that reviewers are just nerds with opinion but your opinion is special?
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