Console gamers literally are too dumb to play this kind of game.

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#1 deactivated-58b6232955e4a
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"Console gamers literally are too dumb to play this kind of game." What a kind publisher.

http://kotaku.com/5893236/christian-allen-wants-your-money-to-make-a-great-old+school-shooter-that-publishers-dont-think-you-want

Christian Allen wants to make a Tactical Shooter using Kickstarter.

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#2 Jankarcop
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That publisher wasn't exactly wrong when sayin gthat.

I hope Allen he gets his funding though.

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#4 turtlethetaffer
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Wow... that's really, really stupid of the publisher for them to say that. Whatever, I have gotten sick of most shooters anyways.

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"The pitch hasn't gone so well." :lol:
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#6 Eponique
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Looks like a scam.
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#7 loosingENDS
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A shooter ?

A 3 year old can play any shooter game, maybe this developer is 1 years old to make such stupid comments ?

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#8 Nanomage
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A shooter ?

A 3 year old can play any shooter game, maybe this developer is 1 years old to make such stupid comments ?

loosingENDS
A publisher made that statement,not the developer.
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#9 Eponique
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A shooter ?

A 3 year old can play any shooter game, maybe this developer is 1 years old to make such stupid comments ?

loosingENDS
lol good point.
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#10 Nanomage
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[QUOTE="loosingENDS"]

A shooter ?

A 3 year old can play any shooter game, maybe this developer is 1 years old to make such stupid comments ?

Eponique

lol good point.

I don´t think a 3 year old could play an old scool tactical shooter,and it was a publisher that made the remark,not the developer.

So no,hardly a good point.

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A shooter ?

A 3 year old can play any shooter game, maybe this developer is 1 years old to make such stupid comments ?

loosingENDS

Read the article. One of the publishers he went to stated that.

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My dream has come true. Please make the game. PLEASE!!!!!!!!!!
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#13 Cherokee_Jack
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I think we can safely assume that was Activision.
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#14 Bigboi500
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That publisher wasn't exactly wrong when sayin gthat.

I hope Allen he gets his funding though.

Jankarcop

I'd bet money I have a higher IQ than you do. :cool:

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#15 lawlessx
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well..he/she wasn't exactly wrong with the statement. The game he described sounded alot like the old school rainbow six games and the SWAT series..games that in this day and age would do horrible on consoles because of the punishing trial and error.
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#16 loosingENDS
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well..he/she wasn't exactly wrong with the statement. The game he described sounded alot like the old school rainbow six games and the SWAT series..games that in this day and age would do horrible on consoles because of the punishing trial and error.lawlessx

Sure, i read you need a 3 PhD to play such games, a console gamer could never play them

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#17 agpickle
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OP should make it a bit more clear that a publisher said that, not the dev.

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#18 ReadingRainbow4
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Kickstarter is fantastic, Inafune should get in on this and make megaman legends 3...

Oh wait Capcom shut him Down.

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The game he described sounded alot like the old school rainbow six games and the SWAT series..lawlessx
Yeah, it reminds me of SWAT 4. Which means I'll back this.
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well..he/she wasn't exactly wrong with the statement. The game he described sounded alot like the old school rainbow six games and the SWAT series..games that in this day and age would do horrible on consoles because of the punishing trial and error.lawlessx

I tihnk a more accurate statement would be that "console gamers don't like something that complex." Saying they're too dumb to figure it out is jsut low.

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#21 Cherokee_Jack
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Receive a custom Beretta 92FS 9mm by Creative Director Christian Allen, with laser-engraved aluminum grips with the logo of the game on them. Only if allowed by state and federal law. Alternatively, a customized gas-blowback airsoft 92FS pistol if desired. Includes all previous rewards.

Goddamn that's boss.

Now I just need $10,000.

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#22 ReadingRainbow4
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now get fromsoftware in on it, make a game in the vein of darksouls but make it PC exclusive.

Do it!

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#23 funsohng
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I always wanted to play old school tactical shooters like old RB6, but I always gave up trying to figure out dated UI... I'm looking forward to this one.
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#24 OneSanitarium
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I always wanted to play old school tactical shooters like old RB6, but I always gave up trying to figure out dated UI... I'm looking forward to this one.funsohng

Play S.W.A.T. 4.

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#25 funsohng
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[QUOTE="funsohng"]I always wanted to play old school tactical shooters like old RB6, but I always gave up trying to figure out dated UI... I'm looking forward to this one.OneSanitarium

Play S.W.A.T. 4.

Doesn't it have gazillion keys to use on KB too?
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#26 lawlessx
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[QUOTE="OneSanitarium"]

[QUOTE="funsohng"]I always wanted to play old school tactical shooters like old RB6, but I always gave up trying to figure out dated UI... I'm looking forward to this one.funsohng

Play S.W.A.T. 4.

Doesn't it have gazillion keys to use on KB too?

you don't need to use THAT many keys..just afew so you can view what your other squad mates and give them simple orders.

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#27 Cherokee_Jack
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[QUOTE="funsohng"][QUOTE="OneSanitarium"]

Play S.W.A.T. 4.

lawlessx

Doesn't it have gazillion keys to use on KB too?

you don't need to use THAT many keys..just afew so you can few what your other squad mates and give them simple orders.

You can do pretty much everything with the context menu, which IIRC is mapped to middle mouse.

Honestly I didn't make a lot of use of my squad and I still adored the game.

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#28 lawlessx
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[QUOTE="lawlessx"][QUOTE="funsohng"] Doesn't it have gazillion keys to use on KB too?Cherokee_Jack

you don't need to use THAT many keys..just afew so you can few what your other squad mates and give them simple orders.

You can do pretty much everything with the context menu, which IIRC is mapped to middle mouse.

Honestly I didn't make a lot of use of my squad and I still adored the game.

i always made my team check rooms first while i just watched:P

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#29 funsohng
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[QUOTE="Cherokee_Jack"]

[QUOTE="lawlessx"] you don't need to use THAT many keys..just afew so you can few what your other squad mates and give them simple orders.lawlessx

You can do pretty much everything with the context menu, which IIRC is mapped to middle mouse.

Honestly I didn't make a lot of use of my squad and I still adored the game.

i always made my team check rooms first while i just watched:P

I will get it then.... but I can't find it on any DL service
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#30 Cherokee_Jack
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i always made my team check rooms first while i just watched:Plawlessx

But they're too dumb to function alone.Their thought process is:

"Hands in the air!"

  • If compliant, stand still and wait for orders
  • If hostile, headshot
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#31 NeonNinja
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I can't believe one of the publishers actually said that. :P

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#32 lawlessx
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[QUOTE="lawlessx"]i always made my team check rooms first while i just watched:PCherokee_Jack

But they're too dumb to function alone.Their thought process is:

"Hands in the air!"

  • If compliant, stand still and wait for orders
  • If hostile, headshot

exactly the way i want it..sometimes i'll go in with them and fire some shots at the arm or leg if the person was armed.
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#33 R4gn4r0k
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I can't believe one of the publishers actually said that. :P

NeonNinja

I can. They laughed at Tim Schafer for wanting to make an Adventure game yet he managed to raise over 3 million dollars.

Big publishers these days think all we want is more COD like FPS games, they couldn't be further removed from gamers if they tried.

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#34 OneSanitarium
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[QUOTE="lawlessx"]

[QUOTE="Cherokee_Jack"]

You can do pretty much everything with the context menu, which IIRC is mapped to middle mouse.

Honestly I didn't make a lot of use of my squad and I still adored the game.

funsohng

i always made my team check rooms first while i just watched:P

I will get it then.... but I can't find it on any DL service

If you do manage to get it, you'll enjoy it. There are still a lot of people playing online too.

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#35 Pug-Nasty
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If you can't make a decent game, prey on fanboy pride to sell it.

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#36 lawlessx
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[QUOTE="funsohng"][QUOTE="lawlessx"] i always made my team check rooms first while i just watched:P

OneSanitarium

I will get it then.... but I can't find it on any DL service

If you do manage to get it, you'll enjoy it. There are still a lot of people playing online too.

Only place i knew that sold the game DD was Direct2drive and they got brought by gamefly.
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#37 OneSanitarium
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[QUOTE="OneSanitarium"]

[QUOTE="funsohng"] I will get it then.... but I can't find it on any DL servicelawlessx

If you do manage to get it, you'll enjoy it. There are still a lot of people playing online too.

Only place i knew that sold the game DD was Direct2drive and they got brought by gamefly.

There are still discs in the world.

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#38 Jankarcop
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If you can't make a decent game, prey on fanboy pride to sell it.

Pug-Nasty

That was the publisher, not the dev :|

He was just as shocked at those comments.

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#39 lawlessx
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[QUOTE="lawlessx"][QUOTE="OneSanitarium"]

If you do manage to get it, you'll enjoy it. There are still a lot of people playing online too.

OneSanitarium

Only place i knew that sold the game DD was Direct2drive and they got brought by gamefly.

There are still discs in the world.

what's a disc?
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[QUOTE="lawlessx"][QUOTE="OneSanitarium"]

If you do manage to get it, you'll enjoy it. There are still a lot of people playing online too.

OneSanitarium

Only place i knew that sold the game DD was Direct2drive and they got brought by gamefly.

There are still discs in the world.

ebay has gold ed for like 10 bucks, so I guess I will get it from here then
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#41 lawlessx
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[QUOTE="OneSanitarium"]

[QUOTE="lawlessx"] Only place i knew that sold the game DD was Direct2drive and they got brought by gamefly. funsohng

There are still discs in the world.

ebay has gold ed for like 10 bucks, so I guess I will get it from here then

If you do buy it let me know..we can co-op levels :)
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#42 Pug-Nasty
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[QUOTE="Pug-Nasty"]

If you can't make a decent game, prey on fanboy pride to sell it.

Jankarcop

That was the publisher, not the dev :|

He was just as shocked at those comments.

Publishers see how development is going. If it sucks, they will be the first to know.

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#43 tjricardo089
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Well they can kiss my 20$ goodbye. Jerks.

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#44 lawlessx
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[QUOTE="Jankarcop"]

[QUOTE="Pug-Nasty"]

If you can't make a decent game, prey on fanboy pride to sell it.

Pug-Nasty

That was the publisher, not the dev :|

He was just as shocked at those comments.

Publishers see how development is going. If it sucks, they will be the first to know.

publishers are also incharge of marketing..and one told him the game wouldn't sell on consoles.
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#45 IAmNot_fun
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[QUOTE="funsohng"][QUOTE="OneSanitarium"]

There are still discs in the world.

lawlessx
ebay has gold ed for like 10 bucks, so I guess I will get it from here then

If you do buy it let me know..we can co-op levels :)

sure, is steam overlay compatible with this?
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#46 IAmNot_fun
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Well they can kiss my 20$ goodbye. Jerks.

tjricardo089
Did you read the article?
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Yes, because Ghost Recon, Rainbow Six 3 and even GRAW sold so poorly on consoles. Hell, the original Xbox got a great port of Operation Flashpoint with slightly downgraded visuals (It's as complicated as the original PC game).

That publisher just lost my money, the last thing you should insult is your audience -_-

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#48 Badosh
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Dumb comment is dumb.
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#49 lawlessx
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Yes, because Ghost Recon, Rainbow Six 3 and even GRAW sold so poorly on consoles. Hell, the original Xbox got a great port of Operation Flashpoint with slightly downgraded visuals (It's as complicated as the original PC game).

That publisher just lost my money, the last thing you should insult is your audience -_-

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do you think games like that would sell in the millions now?
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#50 Hexagon_777
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This is perfect System Wars material. :lol: