Banned Xbox live users will lose all of their games with the Xbox one

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#1 Posted by MikeMoose (3079 posts) -

http://levelsave.com/banned-xbox-one-users-lose-all-of-their-games/

Just when I thought microsoft couldn't bury themselves any further...

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#2 Posted by mems_1224 (56917 posts) -
good. if you're banned its probably for a reason. dont be an asshole.
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#3 Posted by linkdarkside (6258 posts) -

wend they shut the servers down at the end of the console life span you will lose yopur games too.

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#4 Posted by R3FURBISHED (12379 posts) -

good. if you're banned its probably for a reason. dont be an asshole. mems_1224
This x1000

If you are banned, your console should be bricked and your IP address banned.

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#5 Posted by Chutebox (43262 posts) -

Don't do stupid shit

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#6 Posted by WilliamRLBaker (28915 posts) -

Eh they'll learn quick origin and steam both tried this and they changed their TOU quick when someone complained when they were banned via VAC and lost all their games.

*Note: I believe I read this happening with steam but I could be wrong*

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#7 Posted by MikeMoose (3079 posts) -

good. if you're banned its probably for a reason. dont be an asshole. mems_1224

Yup, nobody has EVER been wrongfully banned before, or had their account hacked.

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#8 Posted by nyzma23 (1003 posts) -

So with steam origin and battle net why you afraid being banned if you not planned to pirate it

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#9 Posted by xsubtownerx (10705 posts) -

http://levelsave.com/banned-xbox-one-users-lose-all-of-their-games/

Just when I thought microsoft couldn't bury themselves any further...

MikeMoose
That already happens on Steam. Don't get banned?
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#10 Posted by mems_1224 (56917 posts) -

[QUOTE="mems_1224"]good. if you're banned its probably for a reason. dont be an asshole. MikeMoose

Yup, nobody has EVER been wrongfully banned before, or had their account hacked.

Where did I say that? Reach harder.
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#11 Posted by PonchoTaco (3183 posts) -
Only one thing redeeming Microsoft has done.
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#12 Posted by Keiji993 (1059 posts) -
How can you pay for all of your games and get banned and lose ALL of them? Wtf MS?
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#13 Posted by dkdrumin (168 posts) -
at least u can play 360 games offline... On a 360
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#14 Posted by MikeMoose (3079 posts) -

[QUOTE="MikeMoose"]

[QUOTE="mems_1224"]good. if you're banned its probably for a reason. dont be an asshole. mems_1224

Yup, nobody has EVER been wrongfully banned before, or had their account hacked.

Where did I say that? Reach harder.

"Good, if you're banned it's probably for a reason"

??

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#15 Posted by Goyoshi12 (9687 posts) -

[QUOTE="mems_1224"]good. if you're banned its probably for a reason. dont be an asshole. MikeMoose

Yup, nobody has EVER been wrongfully banned before, or had their account hacked.

Couldn't they just make a new account, then?

[spoiler] I don't know Xbox LIVE all too well so go easy on me. [/spoiler]

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#16 Posted by PonchoTaco (3183 posts) -

[QUOTE="MikeMoose"]

[QUOTE="mems_1224"]good. if you're banned its probably for a reason. dont be an asshole. Goyoshi12

Yup, nobody has EVER been wrongfully banned before, or had their account hacked.

Couldn't they just make a new account, then?

[spoiler] I don't know Xbox LIVE all too well so go easy on me. [/spoiler]

Games will be tied to the account that it was purchased on. I don't know if you can transfer and not pay.
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#17 Posted by mems_1224 (56917 posts) -

[QUOTE="mems_1224"][QUOTE="MikeMoose"]

Yup, nobody has EVER been wrongfully banned before, or had their account hacked.

MikeMoose

Where did I say that? Reach harder.

"Good, if you're banned it's probablyfor a reason"

??

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#18 Posted by Wolfetan (7522 posts) -

[QUOTE="MikeMoose"]

[QUOTE="mems_1224"]good. if you're banned its probably for a reason. dont be an asshole. Goyoshi12

Yup, nobody has EVER been wrongfully banned before, or had their account hacked.

Couldn't they just make a new account, then?

[spoiler] I don't know Xbox LIVE all too well so go easy on me. [/spoiler]

You would have to pay a used game fee. I think.
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#19 Posted by drakekratos (2311 posts) -
the bad news for Xbox keeps rolling in
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#20 Posted by MikeMoose (3079 posts) -

[QUOTE="MikeMoose"]

[QUOTE="mems_1224"] Where did I say that? Reach harder. mems_1224

"Good, if you're banned it's probablyfor a reason"

??

So, you've admitted that there are some people that are wrongfully banned and don't deserve it, yet you still think it is a "good" move by Microsoft to take away games that these people have payed for? Am I missing something?

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#21 Posted by R3FURBISHED (12379 posts) -
How can you pay for all of your games and get banned and lose ALL of them? Wtf MS?Keiji993
As with most everything nowadays you sign a Terms of Use agreement - if you break it, whomever you broke it with can rain down unholy fire upon you.
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#22 Posted by Goyoshi12 (9687 posts) -

[QUOTE="mems_1224"]

[QUOTE="MikeMoose"]

"Good, if you're banned it's probablyfor a reason"

??

MikeMoose

So, you've admitted that there are some people that are wrongfully banned and don't deserve it, yet you still think it is a "good" move by Microsoft to take away games that these people have payed for? Am I missing something?

The minority.

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#23 Posted by mems_1224 (56917 posts) -

[QUOTE="mems_1224"]

[QUOTE="MikeMoose"]

"Good, if you're banned it's probablyfor a reason"

??

MikeMoose

So, you've admitted that there are some people that are wrongfully banned and don't deserve it, yet you still think it is a "good" move by Microsoft to take away games that these people have payed for? Am I missing something?

They can probably call in and try to argue their case. You can't build your policies around fringe cases.
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#24 Posted by TrapJak (2933 posts) -

No, No, No, No.

Block me from playing the online portion of games? That's fine, me abusing the online system is fair enough. But to take away usage of all of my games entirely? There is no justifying that, especially if all I did was JTAG on CoD.

And what happens if someone reports me for mistakenly/purposely  using  offensive language against them and I get a week suspension? Do I deserve to not use my games I paid for then?

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#25 Posted by Sir_Graham (3983 posts) -

I can't see myself getting banned but this is another concern about the system along with the prospect of them shutting down the servers one day. Steam has the same issues and it's one of the reasons I only buy direct download games at low prices. 

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#26 Posted by Renegade_Fury (19673 posts) -

Is there anything Microsoft did not fvck up?

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#27 Posted by MikeMoose (3079 posts) -

[QUOTE="MikeMoose"]

[QUOTE="mems_1224"]

mems_1224

So, you've admitted that there are some people that are wrongfully banned and don't deserve it, yet you still think it is a "good" move by Microsoft to take away games that these people have payed for? Am I missing something?

They can probably call in and try to argue their case. You can't build your policies around fringe cases.

Or you could just not build policies that are set up to fail. Regardless of what you or I think about this, the fact is that MS is going to receive a lot of backlash for this, and a lot of people are going to be upset when their accounts are wrongfully banned and they lose all of their games.

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#28 Posted by R3FURBISHED (12379 posts) -

No, No, No, No.

Block me from playing the online portion of games? That's fine, me abusing the online system is fair enough. But to take away usage of all of my games entirely? There is no justifying that, especially if all I did was JTAG on CoD.

And what happens if someone reports me for mistakenly/purposely  using  offensive language against them and I get a week suspension? Do I deserve to not use my games I paid for then?

TrapJak

Suspension is not a ban. Don't send naked pictures of yourself to random people, don't repeatedly use hate speach, don't mod your console.

You don't get banned for calling people a 'dumb cvnt' or a 'motherfvcker'

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#29 Posted by mems_1224 (56917 posts) -

[QUOTE="mems_1224"][QUOTE="MikeMoose"]

So, you've admitted that there are some people that are wrongfully banned and don't deserve it, yet you still think it is a "good" move by Microsoft to take away games that these people have payed for? Am I missing something?

MikeMoose

They can probably call in and try to argue their case. You can't build your policies around fringe cases.

Or you could just not build policies that are set up to fail. Regardless of what you or I think about this, the fact is that MS is going to receive a lot of backlash for this, and a lot of people are going to be upset when their accounts are wrongfully banned and they lose all of their games.

A lot of people are gonna get wrongfully banned? Aren't you assuming a little too much there buddy?
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#30 Posted by CaseyWegner (70104 posts) -

wend they shut the servers down at the end of the console life span you will lose yopur games too.

linkdarkside

what in the world makes you think that?

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#31 Posted by game_masta14 (3251 posts) -
Ok, there is NO WAY people can still be excited for this system at this point.
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#32 Posted by xsubtownerx (10705 posts) -

[QUOTE="linkdarkside"]

wend they shut the servers down at the end of the console life span you will lose yopur games too.

CaseyWegner

what in the world makes you think that?

You didn't hear? When you buy a game, you install it on a server. Not the console. Damn MS and their evil ways...
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#33 Posted by mems_1224 (56917 posts) -
[QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]

[QUOTE="linkdarkside"]

wend they shut the servers down at the end of the console life span you will lose yopur games too.

xsubtownerx

what in the world makes you think that?

You didn't hear? When you buy a game, you install it on a server. Not the console. Damn MS and their evil ways...

CLOUD POWER BABY!
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#34 Posted by MikeMoose (3079 posts) -

[QUOTE="MikeMoose"]

[QUOTE="mems_1224"] They can probably call in and try to argue their case. You can't build your policies around fringe cases. mems_1224

Or you could just not build policies that are set up to fail. Regardless of what you or I think about this, the fact is that MS is going to receive a lot of backlash for this, and a lot of people are going to be upset when their accounts are wrongfully banned and they lose all of their games.

A lot of people are gonna get wrongfully banned? Aren't you assuming a little too much there buddy?

Nope. It has already happened a lot with the X360. XBL mods aren't perfect. 

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#35 Posted by mems_1224 (56917 posts) -

[QUOTE="mems_1224"][QUOTE="MikeMoose"]

Or you could just not build policies that are set up to fail. Regardless of what you or I think about this, the fact is that MS is going to receive a lot of backlash for this, and a lot of people are going to be upset when their accounts are wrongfully banned and they lose all of their games.

MikeMoose

A lot of people are gonna get wrongfully banned? Aren't you assuming a little too much there buddy?

Nope. It has already happened a lot with the X360. XBL mods aren't perfect. 

How many people have been wrongfully banned on 360?
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#36 Posted by CaseyWegner (70104 posts) -

[QUOTE="mems_1224"][QUOTE="MikeMoose"]

Or you could just not build policies that are set up to fail. Regardless of what you or I think about this, the fact is that MS is going to receive a lot of backlash for this, and a lot of people are going to be upset when their accounts are wrongfully banned and they lose all of their games.

MikeMoose

A lot of people are gonna get wrongfully banned? Aren't you assuming a little too much there buddy?

Nope. It has already happened a lot with the X360. XBL mods aren't perfect. 

a lot?

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#37 Posted by Michael0134567 (28651 posts) -

Surprise, surprise.

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#38 Posted by WilliamRLBaker (28915 posts) -

[QUOTE="mems_1224"]

[QUOTE="MikeMoose"]

"Good, if you're banned it's probablyfor a reason"

??

MikeMoose

So, you've admitted that there are some people that are wrongfully banned and don't deserve it, yet you still think it is a "good" move by Microsoft to take away games that these people have payed for? Am I missing something?

...*calls up Microsoft* yeah I was banned and I don't know why. *Rep says you were caught cheating* but I wasn't I believe I've been hacked. *rep flags your account for further investigation, A month later you get an email that you've been unbanned*
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#39 Posted by UnknownSniper65 (9238 posts) -

-Assuming this is true-

The fact that people think this is okay is pretty sad. Even steam allows you to continue using your games as long as they are singleplayer,lan or unsecured servers. People have been wrongfully banned by steam and I've seen plenty of people banned from Xbox Live simply because they recieved a metric ton of bad feedback (which doesn't always come from being a dink).

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#40 Posted by WilliamRLBaker (28915 posts) -

[QUOTE="mems_1224"][QUOTE="MikeMoose"]

Or you could just not build policies that are set up to fail. Regardless of what you or I think about this, the fact is that MS is going to receive a lot of backlash for this, and a lot of people are going to be upset when their accounts are wrongfully banned and they lose all of their games.

MikeMoose

A lot of people are gonna get wrongfully banned? Aren't you assuming a little too much there buddy?

Nope. It has already happened a lot with the X360. XBL mods aren't perfect. 

you are a fool. There is no automatic system on the 360 where you all of a sudden get banned if enough people report you, live people check any reports against you...Lots of reports means that your system is flagged higher and higher in priority.
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#41 Posted by MikeMoose (3079 posts) -

[QUOTE="MikeMoose"]

[QUOTE="mems_1224"] A lot of people are gonna get wrongfully banned? Aren't you assuming a little too much there buddy? mems_1224

Nope. It has already happened a lot with the X360. XBL mods aren't perfect. 

How many people have been wrongfully banned on 360?

Ah, realizing you're wrong in an argument so you resort to trolling. Classic. Do a google search and read some people's stories if you are really that curious.

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#42 Posted by WilliamRLBaker (28915 posts) -

-Assuming this is true-

The fact that people think this is okay is pretty sad. Even steam allows you to continue using your games as long as they are singleplayer,lan or unsecured servers. People have been wrongfully banned by steam and I've seen plenty of people banned from Xbox Live simply because they recieved a metric ton of bad feedback (which doesn't always come from being a dink).

UnknownSniper65
*coughs* Bull shit *coughs* And I'm pretty sure at one time Steam took away access to your games...
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#43 Posted by WilliamRLBaker (28915 posts) -

[QUOTE="mems_1224"][QUOTE="MikeMoose"]

Nope. It has already happened a lot with the X360. XBL mods aren't perfect. 

MikeMoose

How many people have been wrongfully banned on 360?

Ah, realizing you're wrong in an argument so you resort to trolling. Classic. Do a google search and read some people's stories if you are really that curious.

....So he asks you a legitimate question and you resort to deflection?
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#44 Posted by Wolfetan (7522 posts) -
[QUOTE="MikeMoose"]

[QUOTE="mems_1224"]

WilliamRLBaker

So, you've admitted that there are some people that are wrongfully banned and don't deserve it, yet you still think it is a "good" move by Microsoft to take away games that these people have payed for? Am I missing something?

...*calls up Microsoft* yeah I was banned and I don't know why. *Rep says you were caught cheating* but I wasn't I believe I've been hacked. *rep flags your account for further investigation, A month later you get an email that you've been unbanned*

Yes, but then what do you do for that month?
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#45 Posted by MikeMoose (3079 posts) -

[QUOTE="MikeMoose"]

[QUOTE="mems_1224"] A lot of people are gonna get wrongfully banned? Aren't you assuming a little too much there buddy? WilliamRLBaker

Nope. It has already happened a lot with the X360. XBL mods aren't perfect. 

you are a fool. There is no automatic system on the 360 where you all of a sudden get banned if enough people report you, live people check any reports against you...Lots of reports means that your system is flagged higher and higher in priority.

Quote where I said that happens.

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#46 Posted by MikeMoose (3079 posts) -

[QUOTE="MikeMoose"]

[QUOTE="mems_1224"] How many people have been wrongfully banned on 360? WilliamRLBaker

Ah, realizing you're wrong in an argument so you resort to trolling. Classic. Do a google search and read some people's stories if you are really that curious.

....So he asks you a legitimate question and you resort to deflection?

As if I can give an exact number as to how many people have been wrongfully banned from XBL. I said google search the subject and read people's stories. Try harder.

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#47 Posted by Gaming-Planet (18753 posts) -

wend they shut the servers down at the end of the console life span you will lose yopur games too.

linkdarkside
Most likely. It's expected of Microsoft.
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#48 Posted by soulitane (15073 posts) -
While I think it's pretty easy not to get banned and it doesn't bother me, I hope MS knows that doing stuff like this will attract people from certain online communities to find a solution to the problem.
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#49 Posted by mems_1224 (56917 posts) -

[QUOTE="WilliamRLBaker"][QUOTE="MikeMoose"]

Ah, realizing you're wrong in an argument so you resort to trolling. Classic. Do a google search and read some people's stories if you are really that curious.

MikeMoose

....So he asks you a legitimate question and you resort to deflection?

As if I can give an exact number as to how many people have been wrongfully banned from XBL. I said google search the subject and read people's stories. Try harder.

You are claiming that a lot of people have been wrongfully banned yet you have no actual figures? Seems legit.
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#50 Posted by UnknownSniper65 (9238 posts) -

[QUOTE="UnknownSniper65"]

-Assuming this is true-

The fact that people think this is okay is pretty sad. Even steam allows you to continue using your games as long as they are singleplayer,lan or unsecured servers. People have been wrongfully banned by steam and I've seen plenty of people banned from Xbox Live simply because they recieved a metric ton of bad feedback (which doesn't always come from being a dink).

WilliamRLBaker

*coughs* Bull shit *coughs* And I'm pretty sure at one time Steam took away access to your games...

At one point, I believe they did, but it was eventually changed

https://support.steampowered.com/kb_article.php?p_faqid=589