Another SSB thread but on a different subject: why there is no story mode.

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#1 nintendoboy16
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Source: Gamespot

The reason why: because Brawl's cutscenes were put on the internet.

Okay, Sakurai. You had a legit reason for not wanting a fighting game character into Smash, but this is pathetic reasoning.

Thoughts?

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#2 93BlackHawk93
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This is shit.

Rushed game confirmed?

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#3 freedomfreak
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Like every other game out there, Sakurai.
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#4 Michael0134567
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Don't think it really needs one anyway.

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#5 uninspiredcup
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Mortal Kombat 9 showed you can quite easily infuse story-telling into fighting games. Context makes everything better.

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#6 nintendoboy16
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This is shit.

Rushed game confirmed?

93BlackHawk93
Whoa! I wouldn't go that far YET!
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#7 LegatoSkyheart
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Don't think it really needs one anyway.

Michael0134567

This.

Besides the other Smash Bros Games didn't have them. Brawl was the only one to have something of a "story".

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#8 93BlackHawk93
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[QUOTE="93BlackHawk93"]

This is shit.

Rushed game confirmed?

nintendoboy16
Whoa! I wouldn't go that far YET!

First the awful name, then the limited roster and now this.
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#9 Kaszilla
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Weak CPU
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#10 DrRockso87
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Just went from pre-order to pick up later.

Screw you, Nintendo.

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#11 nintendoboy16
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[QUOTE="nintendoboy16"][QUOTE="93BlackHawk93"]

This is shit.

Rushed game confirmed?

93BlackHawk93

Whoa! I wouldn't go that far YET!

First the awful name, then the limited roster and now this.

-I'll give you that one

-Debatable. Some fighting games with less characters can be regarded as superior than ones with MORE characters. See: MK9 vs MK Armageddon or DBZ Budokai 3 compared to the Tenkaichi games

So yeah, a bit too early.

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#12 93BlackHawk93
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[QUOTE="93BlackHawk93"][QUOTE="nintendoboy16"] Whoa! I wouldn't go that far YET!nintendoboy16

First the awful name, then the limited roster and now this.

-I'll give you that one

-Debatable. Some fighting games with less characters can be regarded as superior than ones with MORE characters. See: MK9 vs MK Armageddon or DBZ Budokai 3 compared to the Tenkaichi games

So yeah, a bit too early.

Eh, I liked more the Tenkaichi games.
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#13 Heil68
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Will there be a campaign.mode or only VS?
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#14 RR360DD
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What a disappontment. Nintendo is seriously struggling in this transition to HD lmao

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#15 Blabadon
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Old news. Besides, why have one? SE was a learning lesson in how to go in the right direction. Maybe he'll put in more events instead. That's what I play for SP SSB Melee.
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Mortal Kombat 9 showed you can quite easily infuse story-telling into fighting games. Context makes everything better.

uninspiredcup
MK9's story wasn't very good, tho.
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#17 LegatoSkyheart
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What a disappontment. Nintendo is seriously struggling in this transition to HD lmao

RR360DD

Yeah Like the Story mode in Smash Bros was worth anything. 

I think you guys are overrating it a bit.

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#18 93BlackHawk93
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This must be because of the stupid 3DS version.

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#19 bbkkristian
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Damn now everybody has to unlock the characters the old fashioned way :P that's the only real loss here.
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#20 Sword-Demon
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Nintendo is becoming more asinine by the day. Their choices regarding both their consoles and their games have been flat out moronic.

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#21 timbers_WSU
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Bull shit story. I bet they are just under pressure to get it out as quickly as possible.

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#22 93BlackHawk93
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Damn now everybody has to unlock the characters the old fashioned way :P that's the only real loss here.bbkkristian
That's the only good part about it.
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#23 bbkkristian
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Question: did you guys actually enjoy the Subspace Emissary? I swear, before this was announced, everybody hated it. Most crossovers stories suck. Are we really losing anything here?
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#24 LegatoSkyheart
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Damn now everybody has to unlock the characters the old fashioned way :P that's the only real loss here.bbkkristian

Yep, but apparently people in this thread REALLY liked Brawl's Story.

Also people go play Project X Zone if you really want Fanfiction to come to life.

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#25 93BlackHawk93
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Question: did you guys actually enjoy the Subspace Emissary? I swear, before this was announced, everybody hated it. Most crossovers stories suck. Are we really losing anything here?bbkkristian
I enjoyed it.
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#26 bbkkristian
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[QUOTE="bbkkristian"]Damn now everybody has to unlock the characters the old fashioned way :P that's the only real loss here.LegatoSkyheart

Yep, but apparently people in this thread REALLY liked Brawl's Story.

Also people go play Project X Zone if you really want Fanfiction to come to life.

Wow, people in This thread are so backwards. Project X Zone got really hated on in reviews for its complex story.
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#27 nintendoboy16
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Question: did you guys actually enjoy the Subspace Emissary? I swear, before this was announced, everybody hated it. Most crossovers stories suck. Are we really losing anything here?bbkkristian
I like it, but I admit it's not a huge deal. But Sakurai's reason was still s***.
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#28 bbkkristian
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[QUOTE="bbkkristian"]Question: did you guys actually enjoy the Subspace Emissary? I swear, before this was announced, everybody hated it. Most crossovers stories suck. Are we really losing anything here?nintendoboy16
I like it, but I admit it's not a huge deal. But Sakurai's reason was still s***.

I'll agree with that.
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#29 LegatoSkyheart
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[QUOTE="LegatoSkyheart"]

[QUOTE="bbkkristian"]Damn now everybody has to unlock the characters the old fashioned way :P that's the only real loss here.bbkkristian

Yep, but apparently people in this thread REALLY liked Brawl's Story.

Also people go play Project X Zone if you really want Fanfiction to come to life.

Wow, people in This thread are so backwards. Project X Zone got really hated on in reviews for its complex story.

I don't hate the game. I haven't played enough of it to get the story. :P

but come on man, It feels so Fanfictiony. Do you know what I mean?

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Question: did you guys actually enjoy the Subspace Emissary? I swear, before this was announced, everybody hated it. Most crossovers stories suck. Are we really losing anything here?bbkkristian
The problem with SSE wasn't the story, it was that levels kinda dragged and some of the enemies were incredibly annoying. Oh, the freaking maze...
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#31 bbkkristian
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[QUOTE="bbkkristian"][QUOTE="LegatoSkyheart"]

Yep, but apparently people in this thread REALLY liked Brawl's Story.

Also people go play Project X Zone if you really want Fanfiction to come to life.

LegatoSkyheart

Wow, people in This thread are so backwards. Project X Zone got really hated on in reviews for its complex story.

I don't hate the game. I haven't played enough of it to get the story. :P

but come on man, It feels so Fanfictiony. Do you know what I mean?

From playing the demos, I can see why the reviewers critiqued the story the way they did. :P
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#32 Sword-Demon
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Question: did you guys actually enjoy the Subspace Emissary? I swear, before this was announced, everybody hated it. Most crossovers stories suck. Are we really losing anything here?bbkkristian
I thought it was mediocre. what annoys me about this is that they have the nerve to blame their laziness on the fact that the cutscenes are online, when the story mode could have been improved for this game.. it's wasted potential with one of the worst excuses I've ever seen.
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#33 bbkkristian
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[QUOTE="bbkkristian"]Question: did you guys actually enjoy the Subspace Emissary? I swear, before this was announced, everybody hated it. Most crossovers stories suck. Are we really losing anything here?PannicAtack
The problem with SSE wasn't the story, it was that levels kinda dragged and some of the enemies were incredibly annoying. Oh, the freaking maze...

Yep. I hope there still is an adventure mode, then...
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#34 campzor
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[QUOTE="Michael0134567"]

Don't think it really needs one anyway.

LegatoSkyheart

This.

Besides the other Smash Bros Games didn't have them. Brawl was the only one to have something of a "story".

i love brawl...but playing through Subspace Emissary, i didnt follow the story for sh!t. I didnt even realize it tried to make a story out of it. I would like to have those fun minigames and stuff that subspace offered though. THey were fun.
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#35 guard12
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Personally I thought the SSE wasn't anything special but, the reasoning behind not including a story is BS. I would rather they brought back Adventure Mode from Melee. I thought that was superior anyways :P 

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#36 bbkkristian
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Ya know what? To replace the SSE, give us an adventure mode or another mode where we face Video game bosses. Because I did enjoy facing Rayquaza and Ridley. I would love to see oversized characters get some love.
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#37 LegatoSkyheart
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Ya know what? To replace the SSE, give us an adventure mode or another mode where we face Video game bosses. Because I did enjoy facing Rayquaza and Ridley. I would love to see oversized characters get some love.bbkkristian

you mean All-Star Mode?

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#38 bbkkristian
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[QUOTE="bbkkristian"]Ya know what? To replace the SSE, give us an adventure mode or another mode where we face Video game bosses. Because I did enjoy facing Rayquaza and Ridley. I would love to see oversized characters get some love.LegatoSkyheart

you mean All-Star Mode?

More like Boss Battles. All Star Mode you face every character on the roster.
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#39 HaloinventedFPS
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They are rushing it out the door because Wii U sales are tanking, the limited roster sucks as well

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#40 Pikminmaniac
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That's a BS reason, but who the hell wants a story mode in a fighting game? Just give me the target tests, homerun contest, and various other mini games based around the fighting mechanics and that's more than enough.

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#41 Demonjoe93
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Damn now everybody has to unlock the characters the old fashioned way :P that's the only real loss here.bbkkristian

I actually like it that way. The Subspace Emissary made it too easy to get every character.

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#42 Pikminmaniac
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[QUOTE="bbkkristian"]Damn now everybody has to unlock the characters the old fashioned way :P that's the only real loss here.Demonjoe93

I actually like it that way. The Subspace Emissary made it too easy to get every character.

I think it's stupid that they make you unlock all the characters. They should give you the entire roster at the start.

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#43 rjdofu
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Story for this type of games are just lame. Look at Dissidia.
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#44 rjdofu
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[QUOTE="Demonjoe93"]

[QUOTE="bbkkristian"]Damn now everybody has to unlock the characters the old fashioned way :P that's the only real loss here.Pikminmaniac

I actually like it that way. The Subspace Emissary made it too easy to get every character.

I think it's stupid that they make you unlock all the characters. They should give you the entire roster at the start.

Nothing stupid about that, unlocking character is part of the enjoyment, for me anyway. I don't like to pick my favourite character at start and just stick with it, it's boring.
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#45 Demonjoe93
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[QUOTE="Demonjoe93"]

[QUOTE="bbkkristian"]Damn now everybody has to unlock the characters the old fashioned way :P that's the only real loss here.Pikminmaniac

I actually like it that way. The Subspace Emissary made it too easy to get every character.

I think it's stupid that they make you unlock all the characters. They should give you the entire roster at the start.

I've always thought unlockables are one of the best part of games like this. It's fun unlocking stuff, including characters.

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#46 bbkkristian
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Story for this type of games are just lame. Look at Dissidia.rjdofu
Bam. Case and point. Still one of my fav games though. :P
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#47 rjdofu
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[QUOTE="Pikminmaniac"]

[QUOTE="Demonjoe93"]

I actually like it that way. The Subspace Emissary made it too easy to get every character.

Demonjoe93

I think it's stupid that they make you unlock all the characters. They should give you the entire roster at the start.

I've always thought unlockables are one of the best part of games like this. It's fun unlocking stuff, including characters.

*highfive*
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#48 bbkkristian
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[QUOTE="Pikminmaniac"]

[QUOTE="Demonjoe93"]

I actually like it that way. The Subspace Emissary made it too easy to get every character.

Demonjoe93

I think it's stupid that they make you unlock all the characters. They should give you the entire roster at the start.

I've always thought unlockables are one of the best part of games like this. It's fun unlocking stuff, including characters.

Me too. That ginormous unlock list that brawl had? I hope they have that in this one as well.
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#49 Michael0134567
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[QUOTE="Pikminmaniac"]

[QUOTE="Demonjoe93"]

I actually like it that way. The Subspace Emissary made it too easy to get every character.

Demonjoe93

I think it's stupid that they make you unlock all the characters. They should give you the entire roster at the start.

I've always thought unlockables are one of the best part of games like this. It's fun unlocking stuff, including characters.

I love unlocking stuff. It can keep me playing the game for a long time if it has lots to unlock.
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#50 Demonjoe93
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I'm kinda neutral on the lack of a story mode here. The game play of the story was okay, but the story was kinda meh. I just hope they replace it with something.