NBA 2010-2011 Season Discussion Thread

[QUOTE="TaCoDuDe"]Last year, Lebron outstripped Kobe in literally every statistic, offensive and defensive, including advanced metric. It's actually closer between Lebron and Wade, but Lebron has is edge in most areas. Overall, Lebron played better than either player in the playoffs last year, save the game 5 in Boston I guess you could say he lacks a "killer instinct", but I'd still take him over anybody in the league. The man has had 2 historically great seasons in a row, ranking up there with the best years that Jordan had, but he gets no credit because people are mad he switched teamsandyboiii

Yeah I agree with you there. It's diffcult to compare them objectively since, like you said, they played such different roles for their teams.

As far as winning championships with the Heat, I wouldn't hold it against him for joining Wade. I don't see how it's any different than the Kobe/Shaq or Jordan/Pippen teams really.

Yeah I agree with you there. It's diffcult to compare them objectively since, like you said, they played such different roles for their teams.

As far as winning championships with the Heat, I wouldn't hold it against him for joining Wade. I don't see how it's any different than the Kobe/Shaq or Jordan/Pippen teams really.

TaCoDuDe

I don't hold it against Lebron for not winning a championship in Cleveland because Kobe nor did Jordan did it when they had bad teams. That's why I'm saying with the team he has now though he has all the tools neccessary to win that ring and if he doesn't then it's not going to look good for him. We just have to wait until the playoffs so we can see if he's actually ready to rise up to the challenge and step up as "the man"

lol @ adcanced metric systems. I ****ing hate those stats. Stupid ass John Hollinger BS. Watch the games.-Halftime-

Any particular reason why you don't like them?

[QUOTE="-Halftime-"]lol @ adcanced metric systems. I ****ing hate those stats. Stupid ass John Hollinger BS. Watch the games.TaCoDuDe

Any particular reason why you don't like them?

[QUOTE="TaCoDuDe"]

[QUOTE="-Halftime-"]lol @ adcanced metric systems. I ****ing hate those stats. Stupid ass John Hollinger BS. Watch the games.-Halftime-

Any particular reason why you don't like them?

Im also not a big fan of Hollinger's metrics. I watch a lot of basketball and can come to an informed decidion on who I think the best team is.

It's kind of like fantasy sports. Players that aren't really that great put up huge stats fantasy wise while players that are better may not.

As a Mavericks fan, watching what LA has done so far this year they are clearly the best team. They won a championship and got significantly better.

When Bynum comes back, they might be unbeatable. Very impressed with Gasol, and especially Odom so far this year.

Shannon Brown looks to have improved his 3 point shot a ton, and I love Barne's D. With Artest and Barnes guarding the other teams best scorer

Kobe is going to be fresh all season long.

You hear about KG called Charlie Villanoava(?lol) a "cancer patient" according to Charlie's Twitter.

KG says he meant he was cancerous to his team.

Wow. Just wow.

You hear about KG called Charlie Villanoava(?lol) a "cancer patient" according to Charlie's Twitter.

KG says he meant he was cancerous to his team.

Wow. Just wow.

Major_Snake

The Pistons suck, so no one cares.

and KG has a point

Which one has Cancer?

You hear about KG called Charlie Villanoava(?lol) a "cancer patient" according to Charlie's Twitter.

KG says he meant he was cancerous to his team.

Wow. Just wow.

Major_Snake

Im not really surprised. Ive always known and felt the Celtics were just a bunch cocky jerks (for lack of better words).

Even if he did mean he "was cancerous to his team". Thats just as bad. Thats saying Charlie is so bad a player he is like cancer to his team. Using cancer as any type of insult just wrong.

Im glad KG is getting bad press. People need to see that the Celtics are just bunch of bullies who's ego's sky-rocketed from winning 1 championship. If I could Id put them all on the injury list.

[QUOTE="Major_Snake"]

You hear about KG called Charlie Villanoava(?lol) a "cancer patient" according to Charlie's Twitter.

KG says he meant he was cancerous to his team.

Wow. Just wow.

No_Hablo_Ingles

The Pistons suck, so no one cares.

and KG has a point

Who cares what team he is on? Let's pretend you have cancer, and some guy comes to you and says "LOLOLOL You have cancer."

[QUOTE="No_Hablo_Ingles"]

[QUOTE="Major_Snake"]

You hear about KG called Charlie Villanoava(?lol) a "cancer patient" according to Charlie's Twitter.

KG says he meant he was cancerous to his team.

Wow. Just wow.

Major_Snake

The Pistons suck, so no one cares.

and KG has a point

Who cares what team he is on? Let's pretend you have cancer, and some guy comes to you and says "LOLOLOL You have cancer."

The Pistons suck, so no one cares.

and KG has a point

Which one has Cancer?

No_Hablo_Ingles

KG just called someone a cancer patient and you agree he has a point?

doesn't matter if the Pistons suck. Calling someone a Cancer patient is crossing the line. KG is a douche and always has been, talking trash is one thing but this is beyond that. The fact that you're making fun of it too shows your immaturity too

The Magic throttled the Twolves by 42 points tonight. Sort of makes me glad that their game with Knicks was postponed yesterday. :P

[QUOTE="No_Hablo_Ingles"]

The Pistons suck, so no one cares.

and KG has a point

Which one has Cancer?

andyboiii

KG just called someone a cancer patient and you agree he has a point?

doesn't matter if the Pistons suck. Calling someone a Cancer patient is crossing the line. KG is a douche and always has been, talking trash is one thing but this is beyond that. The fact that you're making fun of it too shows your immaturity too

Are you saying that he doesn't look like a Cancer patient or that KG was wrong for saying that?No_Hablo_Ingles

[QUOTE="No_Hablo_Ingles"]Are you saying that he doesn't look like a Cancer patient or that KG was wrong for saying that?andyboiii

The Knicks shot lights out tonight against the Bulls. Great win, even with Amar'e having possibly his worst game in years.

"BTW, our Pacers got stomped! "

"....and yeah, I live in Indiana and word was getting around that they could actually be good this year, but with last night....oh boy"

Hope you guys don't mind, thought I'd move this to the proper thread.

But, yeah, I live in IN (Indianapolis). I have a glimmer of hope for a better team also. At least I "think" they're moving in the right direction with Collison and Hibbert seems really motivated.

Wow, nice 2-hand slam by D. Rose!

"BTW, our Pacers got stomped! "

"....and yeah, I live in Indiana and word was getting around that they could actually be good this year, but with last night....oh boy"

Hope you guys don't mind, thought I'd move this to the proper thread.

But, yeah, I live in IN (Indianapolis). I have a glimmer of hope for a better team also. At least I "think" they're moving in the right direction with Collison and Hibbert seems really motivated.

mont13

Nice recovery from all the knuckleheads of years past, time to get something going in Naptown! .....Maybe I could get off Kobe's jock then :D

This Thunder vs Trailblazers game is in OT right now.

What a shot by Armon Johnson. :o

Too bad it wasn't worth 4 points.

Thunder Won, was a good game.

[QUOTE="Major_Snake"]

You hear about KG called Charlie Villanoava(?lol) a "cancer patient" according to Charlie's Twitter.

KG says he meant he was cancerous to his team.

Wow. Just wow.

wildcat2000

Im not really surprised. Ive always known and felt the Celtics were just a bunch cocky jerks (for lack of better words).

Even if he did mean he "was cancerous to his team". Thats just as bad. Thats saying Charlie is so bad a player he is like cancer to his team. Using cancer as any type of insult just wrong.

Im glad KG is getting bad press. People need to see that the Celtics are just bunch of bullies who's ego's sky-rocketed from winning 1 championship. If I could Id put them all on the injury list.

EDIT: Also I love how your acting like the Celtics achievement of winning a championship is nothing special.

Hornets are for real

they're about to improve to 6-0 if they keep this lead over the Heat

CP3 is just toying with this Heat team right now and he just broke jones ankle lmao

Also I should add big V is weak for ratting out the KG.M_1_A_M_I

Heat lose, Boston and Chicago down to the wire.

Great game even though the Heat lost. Very entertaining. Good job by the Hornets.

Great game! Bull's had em, too many mis-cues, and Celtics experience/defense did it.

Rondo beat Rose this game.No_Hablo_Ingles

[QUOTE="No_Hablo_Ingles"]Rondo beat Rose this game.bobcheeseball

Thunderous jam by Wilson Chandler tonight. Had the whole Garden rocking after this one.

And wow @ the Hornets. Awesome win for them.

The Hornets can go ahead and get all excited for now but we all know that team is going nowhere, especially if Chris Paul leaves.

What surprised me is that they gave the ball to Eddie House for the final shot to try sending it to over-time. He's a good 3-point shooter but he's been off, obviously, since the season started but thats besides the point here.

Why, in that situation, would you give the ball to another player when you have your pick of Wade, James or Bosh? Bosh had just hit a 3 too.

It may have been a spit second thing once the ball was in-bounds but if that was in fact the play that Erik Spoelstra drew up that was a huge lapse in judgement. Sorry Erik.

The Hornets can go ahead and get all excited for now but we all know that team is going nowhere, especially if Chris Paul leaves.

What surprised me is that they gave the ball to Eddie House for the final shot to try sending it to over-time. He's a good 3-point shooter but he's been off, obviously, since the season started but thats besides the point here.

Why, in that situation, would you give the ball to another player when you have your pick of Wade, James or Bosh? Bosh had just hit a 3 too.

It may have been a spit second thing once the ball was in-bounds but if that was in fact the play that Erik Spoelstra drew up that was a huge lapse in judgement. Sorry Erik.

wildcat2000

Eddie House was open.

And I don't think it was even a drawn up play. Wade passed on the shot at the last second, it seems.

[QUOTE="wildcat2000"]

The Hornets can go ahead and get all excited for now but we all know that team is going nowhere, especially if Chris Paul leaves.

What surprised me is that they gave the ball to Eddie House for the final shot to try sending it to over-time. He's a good 3-point shooter but he's been off, obviously, since the season started but thats besides the point here.

Why, in that situation, would you give the ball to another player when you have your pick of Wade, James or Bosh? Bosh had just hit a 3 too.

It may have been a spit second thing once the ball was in-bounds but if that was in fact the play that Erik Spoelstra drew up that was a huge lapse in judgement. Sorry Erik.

SaintBlaze

Eddie House was open.

And I don't think it was even a drawn up play. Wade passed on the shot at the last second, it seems.

Well like I said it may have been a split second decision once the clock re-started. Either way someone made a big mistake there.

If your Wade/James/Bosh in that kinda situation, you take the shot....TAKE THE SHOT! Even if they missed at least you went down knowing you had 1 of your 3 best players doing it. Your supposed to give yourself the best chance.

Yes I know Eddie was open but with this team you just don't do something like that. Not when you have a Big 3 errr...Super 3 like this.

[QUOTE="SaintBlaze"]

[QUOTE="wildcat2000"]

The Hornets can go ahead and get all excited for now but we all know that team is going nowhere, especially if Chris Paul leaves.

What surprised me is that they gave the ball to Eddie House for the final shot to try sending it to over-time. He's a good 3-point shooter but he's been off, obviously, since the season started but thats besides the point here.

Why, in that situation, would you give the ball to another player when you have your pick of Wade, James or Bosh? Bosh had just hit a 3 too.

It may have been a spit second thing once the ball was in-bounds but if that was in fact the play that Erik Spoelstra drew up that was a huge lapse in judgement. Sorry Erik.

wildcat2000

Eddie House was open.

And I don't think it was even a drawn up play. Wade passed on the shot at the last second, it seems.

Well like I said it may have been a split second decision once the clock re-started. Either way someone made a big mistake there.

If your Wade/James/Bosh in that kinda situation, you take the shot....TAKE THE SHOT! Even if they missed at least you went down knowing you had 1 of your 3 best players doing it. Your supposed to give yourself the best chance.

Yes I know Eddie was open but with this team you just don't do something like that. Not when you have a Big 3 errr...Super 3 like this.

Eh, it's early in the season, so I'll cut them some slack. If this was a playoff situation, then maybe i'd see things your way. There's still plenty of games left for them to play.

Yes I know Eddie was open but with this team you just don't do something like that. Not when you have a Big 3 errr...Super 3 like this.

wildcat2000

Kobe did the same thing when he passed to Blake for the go ahead basket in the final seconds of the game. You have to trust your role players to hit those kind of shots, and i'll take eddie house shooting it over wade and Lebron behind the arc any day. MJ used to pass to Kerr for go ahead 3 point baskets as well in the final seconds of games

Rondo beat Rose this game.No_Hablo_Ingles

[QUOTE="No_Hablo_Ingles"]Rondo beat Rose this game.white_sox

[QUOTE="white_sox"][QUOTE="No_Hablo_Ingles"]Rondo beat Rose this game.No_Hablo_Ingles

...right after he smacked Rose's whole right side. Actually, he could have been called twice for the foul on the same possession(the other one being at the top of the key), but I wouldn't expect anything else at TD Garden(still have nightmares about the 08-09 playoffs there.)white_sox