Poll: Majority of Republicans Want Kavanaugh Confirmed Even if Guilty

Surprisingly, an NPR/Marist poll found that a majority of Republicans want Kavanaugh confirmed even if Ford's allegations are true.

"A majority of Republicans (54 percent) say they think Kavanaugh should be confirmed regardless of whether Ford's allegations are true, according to the poll."

https://www.npr.org/2018/09/26/651647131/poll-nearly-6-in-10-to-closely-watch-kavanaugh-ford-hearing-many-undecided-on-tr

if this was news 2 years ago i would be surprised.

but I am not longer surprised at the lengths of loyalty these people will go

Not surprising considering the outcome if he does not get confirmed.

some other Trump nominee will be up instead?

doesnt sound like a big deal to me

Trump will not be able to get anyone past a Democratic-held Senate.

So no, also you really think anyone wouldn´t have burned Kavanaugh long ago if they simply could put up someone else and get them confirmed.

but I thought you said there is no way the GOP will loose the senate, you were convinced that its completely not possible. You thought I was crazy for even suggesting such a prediction

have you changed your view on that?

Please quote the post where I said the Republicans would not lose the Senate. Since I never said anything to the sort, in fact, I have been pretty clear on the fact that the Democrats will take the Senate as customary during a mid-terms

What I did say which you may have confused, is that the Republicans will not lose so much that the Democrats will have a super-majority and be able to convict Trump should a democratic house impeach him.

are you saying that you never told me I was crazy for suggesting the GOP could loose the Senate? and that such a prediction was pure sillyness?

So can we officially say that Republicans are the party of rape?

Quote the post, we do not need to speculate on anything, you claimed something now back it up.

Also predicting that Republicans would lose the Senate, is like walking outside while it´s raining and saying "I predict it will rain today"

No one would dispute that the Democrats would gain control, especially not after Moore lost his seat.

I am looking for it now, almost got it I think.

My prediction has always been

A. Dems will win the House easy

B. Dems will likely win senate

I am nearly sure you are one of the people who said B was crazy talk

Congress is the house and Senate, so now we are talking about something different.

Will the Democrats win the House is the question, and depending on how the Kavanaugh thing goes, there will most likely be a blue wave securing a majority but I doubt it will be as big as people expect.

But I think I know what you are referring to, and that was that the progressives IE Cortez/Sanders wing would win big, and that is pure crazy talk.

sorry but I am almost on it.

what I am saying now, then and always, is what I have about in item A and item B.

I give up, I know what you where asking of me was a dick move but I thought I could find it anyway, best I could find is someone else saying there was no chance the SENATE would loose control, I could have sworn that person was you.

I DID however find posts of you talking about how 'moderates' are the ones that win an election which is why the left will not get far this midterm.

does that count?

Nope, that person was not me.

Whoever that was would not be very up on the political situation in the us.

I wish though that it would be true, it would be so much easier to drop Kavanaugh and go with Berret or someone else on the short list.

i did find this though

@Jacanuk said:

I think it's safe to say we can dispel with the myth that Republicans are the party of family values. If anyone wonders why I hate Trump so, it's reason like this. He has introduced, gave license to, and legitimized his moral rot into everyone around him that identifies with him. Trump is human garbage, and unfortunately, the stench of his garbage rubs off on others.

@Jacanuk

Here is what you asked for

and here is the full topic for you

https://www.gamespot.com/forums/political-gamers-909409192/scotus-news-justice-kennedy-is-retiring-33435865/?page=2#js-message-84

@Jacanuk said:

Found what? either you did not understand the post or try not to troll so much. There was talk about impeachment and to impeach there needs to be a 2/3 majority. And if you are claiming that the Democrats will take 2/3´s of the House, then you are indeed beyond crazy. Which is not the same as saying that the Democrats get a majority in the Senate.

You can blame Trump all you want.

But the partisan split is not due to Trump, it began long before Trump was president.

yeah I know but I think you can look at the thread and see where I got the impression that you thought it was crazy talk that the Senate specifically would flip, but regardless we should move on either way.

actually reading the thread your first assertion was made rather early in the thread, i got it right, you did consider it crazy talk

this is what I am going with as my asnwer to your request

You should watch out, having waking dreams is not a good sign for you.

Gotta hand it to republican voters, they care about their agendas above all else. And again, they reward their candidates for playing dirty politics, but you can be damn sure they will get mad at democrat candidates who do the same and try to get the dem voters to hold their candidates to higher standards than they themselves do.

Hmm, perhaps but there was a difference there, winning a majority is not the same as pretty much wiping the board clean of Republicans, especially considering that Trump is not that unpopular among Republicans.

I would need to look it up but I don´t think any party has ever claimed close to 2/3 of a house , If that ever happened, a lot of red states would have to turn deep blue.

your very own argument that you are making RIGHT NOW...puts your OWN concerns about getting the nomination in now before midterms into question now doesnt?

How would it do that?

I have to ask, Do you know what 2/3 is?

because the only reason a Trump nomination would be at risk after the mid terms is if the results of the election was in fact that 2/3 you are so concerned about, otherwise its a non-issue. but you are concerned which mean you must think it will fit those parameters.

but..I should point out...the conversation in question was not about impeachment, it was about appointment of this nominee

so I think you have that confused, kind of like your struggle with math on 51/49

the original thread in which you basically said i was crazy was in direct response to the supreme court nomination

Thanks for proving that you are game spots village idiot.

I sometimes forget that you are just a troll.

Also thanks for proving you are clueless when you try to weasel in a debate about the house which has zero to do with a supreme court nomination.

ok

but the thread in question was specifically about confirmation of this specific supreme court nominee and the specific quote in question is about the 2nd one you made to me after opening up the conversation specifically about this supreme court nominee .

thus your concern now would apply to that quote as well.

This is about what is morally right, not about ideologies. I'm hard pressed to believe that 54% of Republicans would come out and see acceptable the dismissal and rape and sufferings of a woman for their own partisan advantage had Trump not instilled in them the license of such moral bankruptcy in its attainment. You are off-kilter if you don't believe that someone in such a position of power doesn't influence people in all respects, moral included. It is not only the absence of that in Trump, but his reveling in it, that has further enabled this.

well they either A. authentically believe its simply not true B. believe that he is reformed now by the grace of god. or C. feel like their own personal value system is under such attack that they will loose everything if its not a republican.

check out this very surprising interview with a preacher on this subject

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MG_l0-IJ_BQ

You are making Trump far "worse" than he is but morally right? is that morally right after your mind or who determines what is "morally right"? But Trump is not the cause, he may have moved the line for what is acceptable to say but considering the insanities the left is the cause of, what you see is just a push back against that. Just take the universities , we had trigger warnings and we had people in our class who reported the teacher for words that were "hurting them", which is just insane and it´s happening all over America and it seems to have jumped to the UK as well, just read that a university in Manchester has banned clapping.

So sure Trump has pushed the line which is about time since when people start to think that words are violence and clapping has to be banned, then we have crossed over into the twilight zone and the conservatives seem to be the guiding light in what is sensible, which is scary.

good god of course!

yes folks...news flash! for those with a moral compass that isnt broken they can determine what is morally right..and no, others do not need to determine if the compass is working, but they can determine if the compass is broken

Maybe stay away from a debate about morality when you fail to grasp even the basic things.

@mattbbpl: Yeah not surprised by this at all. Conservatives in 2018 are exactly as Hilary said. I laughed and thought it was ridiculous when she said it, but that old hag turned out to be spot on.

“Basket of deplorables” that are okay with rapists, child molesters, con artists who cheat on their wives and newborns with porn stars. Nothing matters when you have no principles, dignity, or moral compass like your average conservative.

This isn't surprising at all, I even expected it to be higher. The republican party has been festering for years and it's rearing it's ugly head for what it truly is. Behold your moral majority America.

They were mad when Clinton called them deplorables, now they go ahead and prove her right.

Lol, is anyone surprised?

GOP.......gang of perverts.

Well, you guys are a step ahead of me in this regard. This shocked me, truly.

Good job in missing why 54% is ok with Kavanaugh.

You clearly have no idea on how important that seat is to 99% of the Republicans and also the democrats, Republicans would sell their mom if that could prevent the Democrats in destroying the bench with another liberal judge and making it for decades a legislative branch where the 4 conservative judges will have nothing to say.

Putting a sexual predator on the SC is disgusting. There is NO good reason to do it.

Have you not followed the debate around this nomination and the rhetoric used by the democratic senators? But let´s be clear this poll is made to create a headline because they did not ask the all-important question as to why. No one is ok with any kind of sexual assault, But when you have a politized bench that is legislative, you are bound to see the extremes to secure it, especially when it out-ranks the Congress and the president.

So we're in agreement, thanks!

Well new Popes and Head Coaches get elected no matter how many young lives they ruined, so doesn't really seem like a big deal. I mean how many of the most popular people in world aren't perverts or sex addicts. I could give a shit if Tiger Woods raped women, rather than just cheat on wife. So people acting like this is some heinous thing, IDK, just don't really buy it as a big deal, everyone is dirty.

Destroying the bench? If you're going to make such an absurdly tribal opinion please proceed it with "IMO".

And as far as opinions go, aren't many liberal views the far more popular ones? Most are pro gun control. Most are Pro Roe vs Wade. Legalising Weed. Pro Gay rights. Pro Dreamer. Against the Wall. etc. I would think most Americans would view a conservative majority bench as a disaster considering polling on major issues.

Political tribalism at its finest, then again, after how much support Roy Moore got (nearly winning), I am not really surprised by anything anymore.

It's been in development for a long time. I mean 36% of Republicans view Democratic party as a threat to the nations well being.

basically you are saying this

'all moral choices must be decided by another person other than the person in question, who that person is who controls morality for everyone we dont know'

so you tell us, who is it that gets to define for our small brains what is and is not moral?

So I should state the obvious?

Also please provide a credible source as too liberal ideas being the most popular.

If you think that is what I said, then you clearly did not understand the post so go back read it again.

ok ...will do be back in a second

And 55% of moderate engaged Democrats and 70% of highly engaged Democrats see the Republican party as a threat to America. 47%/58% is also angry and lastly, 58%/60% is frustrated.

And it all comes down to the liberal destruction of the educational system in America, further putting a massive divide between republicans and democrats