Fallout: New Vegas sold 1.4 million units; Guess how many were on PC

I hate it when people make threads like this... wth am I supposed to do about it? Tell the pirates they're a bunch of meanies?

[QUOTE="GeneralShowzer"][QUOTE="The_Capitalist"]

Despite extrapolating the digital sales as well, it is quite clear the PC version has sold the least copies of all versions of the game.

PC gaming isn't dying. In fact, it's thriving where games like Farmville are concerned. Hardcore PC gaming is being forced into a smaller and smaller niche.

The_Capitalist

And you believe that Valve isn't puffing up their statistics somehow? It is rising, but are people spending more? For example, I don't buy anything from Steam unless it's on sale. Everything else is in a plastic DVD case from Amazon.

Let's admit it. PC gaming is much less dominant than it used to be, or it had hit the limits of growth long ago and has been overshadowed by console gaming ever since.

But regardless, more research is needed.

Much less dominant? What about last year when it was shown that PC sales of games was more then that of PS3 and xbox360 combined. PC is alive and well, just in differnt aspects then it once was. Back in the day there was no Digital Downloads, what was sold in stores was what was really sold.

Also what abotu steam's stats last year how there sales are up over 100%? They made that up? Come on now.

PC gamign isnt what it use to be as far as IN STORE sales go, but with Digital Downloads from Steam, Impulse, G2G and D2D thats something else to look at.

Also Starcraft2 has done very well so far, for it to be up there with Halo Reach as some of the years best selling games is pretty impressive imo.

Despite extrapolating the digital sales as well, it is quite clear the PC version has sold the least copies of all versions of the game.

PC gaming isn't dying. In fact, it's thriving where games like Farmville are concerned. Hardcore PC gaming is being forced into a smaller and smaller niche.

The_Capitalist

Yeah, this is the reason due the three versions of Bad Company 2 sold almost the same in the three platforms (around 2 millions in each one) but the 95% of clans and dedicated servers turns around the PC version: due is small niche :P

Oh, is that why Steam's userbase and sales figures keep rising? And why Starcraft II sold as much as Halo Reach. GeneralShowzer

And you believe that Valve isn't puffing up their statistics somehow? It is rising, but are people spending more? For example, I don't buy anything from Steam unless it's on sale. Everything else is in a plastic DVD case from Amazon.

Let's admit it. PC gaming is much less dominant than it used to be, or it had hit the limits of growth long ago and has been overshadowed by console gaming ever since.

But regardless, more research is needed.

Two words. Digital distrubution.

Plus VGChartz? Ha.

vg chartz are not even anywhere in the ballpark with pc sales figures... check out their top 50 pc game sales...

lol just checked, according to vgchartz nobody at all bought fallout 3 on pc.

everyones playing starcraft 2

[QUOTE="The_Capitalist"]

Despite extrapolating the digital sales as well, it is quite clear the PC version has sold the least copies of all versions of the game.

PC gaming isn't dying. In fact, it's thriving where games like Farmville are concerned. Hardcore PC gaming is being forced into a smaller and smaller niche.

Ondoval

Yeah, this is the reason due the three versions of Bad Company 2 sold almost the same in the three platforms (around 2 millions in each one) but the 95% of clans and dedicated servers turns around the PC version: due is small niche :P

Despite his obsurd claim i would love to see some actualy DD figures, before using the excuse, because it seems to me that even if "50%+ buy thier games with DD now" is true thats a measley 180k copies.... which just goes to show how crap the arguement is anyway. Most of us DD it alright... but not with money it seems.Birdy09

There has been articles and facts saying that Digital Downloads is 59% of pc game sales as of last year. Probably even more this year.

PC gaming as moved to Digital Downloads, its not all 100% digital downloads but its above 50% now and moving up more and more.

[QUOTE="Birdy09"]

There has been articles and facts saying that Digital Downloads is 59% of pc game sales as of last year. Probably even more this year.

PC gaming as moved to Digital Downloads, its not all 100% digital downloads but its above 50% now and moving up more and more.

kozzy1234

[QUOTE="Birdy09"]Despite his obsurd claim i would love to see some actualy DD figures, before using the excuse, because it seems to me that even if "50%+ buy thier games with DD now" is true thats a measley 180k copies.... which just goes to show how crap the arguement is anyway. Most of us DD it alright... but not with money it seems.kozzy1234

There has been articles and facts saying that Digital Downloads is 59% of pc game sales as of last year. Probably even more this year.

PC gaming as moved to Digital Downloads, its not all 100% digital downloads but its above 50% now and moving up more and more.

[QUOTE="Birdy09"]Despite his obsurd claim i would love to see some actualy DD figures, before using the excuse, because it seems to me that even if "50%+ buy thier games with DD now" is true thats a measley 180k copies.... which just goes to show how crap the arguement is anyway. Most of us DD it alright... but not with money it seems.TerrorRizzing

What about Digital downloads?

I will just throw some random sentences in here since iam very tired to write a novel of some sort :D

1.I have 159 friends in my msn list.

2.about 100 of them play games on pc...

3.After reading this topic i went on msn and ask all the online friends in my list if they bought fallout 3 nv...

4.from a total of 72 online 59 said yes...3 of them said they never heard of fallout...10 of them said they have a pirated copy of the game.

5.from those 59 people 55 said they got it via steam...

6.in the last 18 month(i think) all of my games where bought via steam...

[QUOTE="kozzy1234"]

[QUOTE="Birdy09"] I know but my point is a flatline % like that means absolutely nothing if games are selling like crap anyway. [QUOTE="TerrorRizzing"][QUOTE="Birdy09"]Despite his obsurd claim i would love to see some actualy DD figures, before using the excuse, because it seems to me that even if "50%+ buy thier games with DD now" is true thats a measley 180k copies.... which just goes to show how crap the arguement is anyway. Most of us DD it alright... but not with money it seems.Birdy09

[QUOTE="PTMags"]

Based upon the NPD data below, physical sales represent about 41% of the PC market, while digital distribution represents about 59%.

http://www.crunchgear.com/2010/09/20/pc-game-digital-sales-have-now-outpaced-physical-sales/

Using these figures, and the 90,000 retail sales reported by vgchartz, the actual total sales for New Vegas are around 220,000 for PC. Still the smallest number yes, but it's nothing to scoff at, especially in relation to the market size compared to the PS3 and 360. I think the PC is doing fine.

Gooeykat

Thanks. If I had to guess i'd say that DD represents more than 59% nowadays, and that the vgchartz figures are low (shocking I know!). I'd bet money that the PC sales are actually fairly close to the PS3 sales, all things considered.

[QUOTE="Birdy09"]Despite his obsurd claim i would love to see some actualy DD figures, before using the excuse, because it seems to me that even if "50%+ buy thier games with DD now" is true thats a measley 180k copies.... which just goes to show how crap the arguement is anyway. Most of us DD it alright... but not with money it seems.kozzy1234

There has been articles and facts saying that Digital Downloads is 59% of pc game sales as of last year. Probably even more this year.

PC gaming as moved to Digital Downloads, its not all 100% digital downloads but its above 50% now and moving up more and more.

The PC Gaming Alliance (oi stop laughing at the back we all know what a joke the organisation is) have estimated that world wide the percentage of sales via Digital Download is closer to 80%

http://www.videogamesblogger.com/2010/03/11/pc-gaming-revenue-tops-13-billion-in-2009-digital-downloads-now-80-of-pc-market.htm

Either way this is VGchartz we are talking about here, that alone makes the numbers suspiciously dubious. I believe VGchartz has such a bad rep that some forums and websites actively encourage their users to NOT use VGchartz as a source. Now couple that with the fact they sampled a few retail outlets in America where the PC is weakest and it isn't surprising they got such a low figure for PC game sales.

I have absolutely no doubt Fallout NV has been a commercial success on the PC and I have no doubt we will see the another Fallout on the PC. That at the end of the day is what should matter to us not all this pathetic "omgz how many copies did it sell".

If we are to believe these numbers (and I certainly don't) the game is STILL selling about 30% more than FO:3 did in the same time period. The game, despite claims to the contrary, is selling pretty well.

I ordered the CE from Amazon.

1) stop trolling

2) stop hating

3) its only your fault that you don't have the knowledge to put a few parts together and build a gaming pc

4) its only your fault you dont no what steam is and what its sales are

5) PC GAMING IS NOT DEAD FFS.. and even if it is it doesn't matter cause.. pc = zombie

[QUOTE="GeneralShowzer"][QUOTE="The_Capitalist"]

Despite extrapolating the digital sales as well, it is quite clear the PC version has sold the least copies of all versions of the game.

PC gaming isn't dying. In fact, it's thriving where games like Farmville are concerned. Hardcore PC gaming is being forced into a smaller and smaller niche.

The_Capitalist

And you believe that Valve isn't puffing up their statistics somehow? It is rising, but are people spending more? For example, I don't buy anything from Steam unless it's on sale. Everything else is in a plastic DVD case from Amazon.

Let's admit it. PC gaming is much less dominant than it used to be, or it had hit the limits of growth long ago and has been overshadowed by console gaming ever since.

But regardless, more research is needed.

Wait so can anyone tell me if they included DD into those figures?

Anyway, the game hasn't been out for very long... Console games usually have stronger launches but fizzle out quicker.

90,000 units

Meanwhile the X360 version sold 850,000 units and the PS3 version sold 460,000 units.

Obviously, however, the popularity of Fallout isn't that different between PC and console. It's was a hyped up release even on PC gaming forums, so I doubt that the 90,000 units is due to a lack of interest. I think we all know what the real reason for it's abominable performance is, and I really can't see how anyone can deny it considering the massive discrepancy between the amount of PC gamers talking about it and the amount who actually bought the game.

Seriously guys, piracy is the reason PC gaming is dying. Sales for all PC games should be MUCH higher than they are and publishers know it. It's the reason why most PC exclusive franchises have gone multiplat at best or console-exclusive at worst, and why most games released for the PC these days are nothing more than lazy ports of the console version.

gameguy6700

You should try buying some PC games by Digital Download...Steam has 30,000,000 users...did you notice how many Steam threads have been posted?:)

Sales numbers don't include digital sales.

Other digital vendors are D2D, Impulse, GamersGate, EA Store, etc.:)

We can offer all the stats and quotes we want, but the bottom line is that the statement "PC gaming is dead or dying" is provably wrong. That's it.

And for the record on this topic, I was one of the 90,000 too that bought a hard copy... I much prefer it to digital download, if for no other reason than cost... example - it was up for £34.99 on Steam, whereas I could buy it for just £24.99 from an online retailer offering the discs. If it had been the other way round, I may have gone for digi-download.

[QUOTE="kozzy1234"]

[QUOTE="Birdy09"] I know but my point is a flatline % like that means absolutely nothing if games are selling like crap anyway. [QUOTE="TerrorRizzing"][QUOTE="Birdy09"]Despite his obsurd claim i would love to see some actualy DD figures, before using the excuse, because it seems to me that even if "50%+ buy thier games with DD now" is true thats a measley 180k copies.... which just goes to show how crap the arguement is anyway. Most of us DD it alright... but not with money it seems.Birdy09

Bad Company 2 sales:

Xbox 360: 2 299 898

PC: 2 007 335

PS3: 1 858 206

Source:

http://bfbcs.com/ tracks any account made with the game.

Compared to NPD Bad Company 2 PC sales: 190.000

So, let me laugh again about any NPD/Vgchartz "official" PC sales. Current NPD charts are utterly useless to track sales from PC software.

seriously everyone torrented games pirated games w.e you wanna call it does have a big impact on sales, i know dozens of ppl who only pay for pc games that have multyplayer, and they download all sp only games, its kinda sad really.

seriously everyone torrented games pirated games w.e you wanna call it does have a big impact on sales, i know dozens of ppl who only pay for pc games that have multyplayer, and they download all sp only games, its kinda sad really.

kyle_360

I gotta say out of all my friends Im the only one who actually bought the game the rest torrented it.

Heh, i made the same mistake as OP....remember PC gaming = Steam pretty much so as those figures are not counted we dont know how well FNV did.

[QUOTE="Birdy09"][QUOTE="kozzy1234"] with that logic, bad comapny 2 has sold 62,000 copies on pc... ya right...Ondoval

Bad Company 2 sales:

Xbox 360: 2 299 898

PC: 2 007 335

PS3: 1 858 206

Source:

http://bfbcs.com/ tracks any account made with the game.

Compared to NPD Bad Company 2 PC sales: 190.000

So, let me laugh again about any NPD/Vgchartz "official" PC sales. Current NPD charts are utterly useless to track sales from PC software.

Now thats more like it, but ummmm, food for thought, "accounts created? you can make an EA account as many times as you want... on all systems? while ingame, doesnt mean the CD keys attached are 2 million. and I like how Bad Company is the ONLY example floating around, yea a few PC games sell aswell, but even our biggest games dont sell anywhere near close to the console counter-parts, only recent exclusive in memory is WoW.... which is just the only real monster. Fallout 3 is fully piratable, there is no insentive to buy it, and it reflects in PC sales, we get one or two online games that do extremely well a year and thats about it.

Birdy09

Wrong.

[QUOTE="Birdy09"]

Now thats more like it, but ummmm, food for thought, "accounts created? you can make an EA account as many times as you want... on all systems? while ingame, doesnt mean the CD keys attached are 2 million. and I like how Bad Company is the ONLY example floating around, yea a few PC games sell aswell, but even our biggest games dont sell anywhere near close to the console counter-parts, only recent exclusive in memory is WoW.... which is just the only real monster. Fallout 3 is fully piratable, there is no insentive to buy it, and it reflects in PC sales, we get one or two online games that do extremely well a year and thats about it.

RyviusRan

Wrong.

Well he is kinda correct, you can pirate Fallout new vegas and you loose out on NOTHING. With bad company 2 you cant play multiplayer without paying for it, and lets face it, nobody buys Bad Company for its campaign :)Daytona_178

But he is wrong about PC games not selling well.

[QUOTE="Daytona_178"]Well he is kinda correct, you can pirate Fallout new vegas and you loose out on NOTHING. With bad company 2 you cant play multiplayer without paying for it, and lets face it, nobody buys Bad Company for its campaign :)RyviusRan

But he is wrong about PC games not selling well.

[QUOTE="RyviusRan"]

[QUOTE="Daytona_178"]Well he is kinda correct, you can pirate Fallout new vegas and you loose out on NOTHING. With bad company 2 you cant play multiplayer without paying for it, and lets face it, nobody buys Bad Company for its campaign :)Daytona_178

But he is wrong about PC games not selling well.

[QUOTE="RyviusRan"]

[QUOTE="Daytona_178"]Well he is kinda correct, you can pirate Fallout new vegas and you loose out on NOTHING. With bad company 2 you cant play multiplayer without paying for it, and lets face it, nobody buys Bad Company for its campaign :)Daytona_178

But he is wrong about PC games not selling well.

Oh...Daytona...I would expected a lot more from you...

1 copy of Fallout NV for xbox is not equal to 1 copy of Fallout NV on PC...the copy of NV for PC has double or triple the value of the counterpart for the xbox/ps3...

Iam not in the mood to even explain this further more...but for those of you who know and understand how things works,please dont bother to reply to this guys who always say:"pc is dieing or xbox sold way more than pc"...dont bother to reply back...u cant teach someone that the sky is blue and the water is wet...:D

This topic is cute. Another one added to the 'If only PC gaming was actually dying' pile.

This topic is cute. Another one added to the 'If only PC gaming was actually dying' pile.

Mystic-G