Fallout: New Vegas sold 1.4 million units; Guess how many were on PC

90,000 units

Meanwhile the X360 version sold 850,000 units and the PS3 version sold 460,000 units.

Obviously, however, the popularity of Fallout isn't that different between PC and console. It's was a hyped up release even on PC gaming forums, so I doubt that the 90,000 units is due to a lack of interest. I think we all know what the real reason for it's abominable performance is, and I really can't see how anyone can deny it considering the massive discrepancy between the amount of PC gamers talking about it and the amount who actually bought the game.

Seriously guys, piracy is the reason PC gaming is dying. Sales for all PC games should be MUCH higher than they are and publishers know it. It's the reason why most PC exclusive franchises have gone multiplat at best or console-exclusive at worst, and why most games released for the PC these days are nothing more than lazy ports of the console version.

90,000 units

Meanwhile the X360 version sold 850,000 units and the PS3 version sold 460,000 units.

Obviously, however, the popularity of Fallout isn't that different between PC and console. It's was a hyped up release even on PC gaming forums, so I doubt that the 90,000 units is due to a lack of interest. I think we all know what the real reason for it's abominable performance is, and I really can't see how anyone can deny it considering the massive discrepancy between the amount of PC gamers talking about it and the amount who actually bought the game.

Seriously guys, piracy is the reason PC gaming is dying. Sales for all PC games should be MUCH higher than they are and publishers know it. It's the reason why most PC exclusive franchises have gone multiplat at best or console-exclusive at worst, and why most games released for the PC these days are nothing more than lazy ports of the console version.

That number is not including the Digital Download versions (which I bought and many others did)

That number is not including the Digital Download versions (which I bought and many others did)

kozzy1234

[QUOTE="kozzy1234"]

That number is not including the Digital Download versions (which I bought and many others did)

gameguy6700

It's just well known they don't.

For any proof look for sources but keywords from wikipedia itself.

''Sales figures on VG Chartz are based on estimates extrapolated from small retail samples.''

[QUOTE="gameguy6700"][QUOTE="kozzy1234"]

That number is not including the Digital Download versions (which I bought and many others did)

Cenerune

It's just well known they don't.

For any proof look for sources but keywords from wikipedia itself.

''Sales figures on VG Chartz are based on estimates extrapolated from small retail samples.''

Yeah, they usually take into account physical copies sold. I'm sure the numbers would be higher if they added up the digital downloads. In this day and age, digital download is becoming more popular. Even for someone like me who prefers physical copies.

Elann2008

Pretty much, most of the information given out toward those organisations tracking sales are from retailers. Digital download has replaced retail on PC, which is why they always have low numbers for PC. Even developers and publishers have said that the numbers are not representative of what they actually sold on PC.

Beside that, Steam registered it peaked at 38 145 people playing it today. It's in the top 5 played games on steam and currently first with 17 911 players playing it.

Retail sales don't include digital distribution which I'm guessing about 90% of PC gamers who bought New Vegas decided to use.

Steam just rocks that hard.

That only retail sales. Nice try; PC gaming is far from dead.

[QUOTE="kozzy1234"]

That number is not including the Digital Download versions (which I bought and many others did)

gameguy6700

Source 10-21-2010

"In other words, sales of physical game copies simply don't account for all the money pumped into the industry anymore. As such, the NPD will soon release the debut issue of its new report, Games Industry: Total Consumer Spend. While the report still includes data on sales of new games, accessories and hardware, it will also feature data on "used games, rentals, mobile apps, social network games, and digitally acquired content in the U.S."

That's NPD. If they're not doing it, why should we think VG Chartz is?

In fact:

From VG Chartz Wikipedia Page

"Sales figures on VG Chartz are based on estimates extrapolated from small retail samples."

Woot I was 1/90000 people I feel slightly more special

90,000 units

Meanwhile the X360 version sold 850,000 units and the PS3 version sold 460,000 units.

Obviously, however, the popularity of Fallout isn't that different between PC and console. It's was a hyped up release even on PC gaming forums, so I doubt that the 90,000 units is due to a lack of interest. I think we all know what the real reason for it's abominable performance is, and I really can't see how anyone can deny it considering the massive discrepancy between the amount of PC gamers talking about it and the amount who actually bought the game.

Seriously guys, piracy is the reason PC gaming is dying. Sales for all PC games should be MUCH higher than they are and publishers know it. It's the reason why most PC exclusive franchises have gone multiplat at best or console-exclusive at worst, and why most games released for the PC these days are nothing more than lazy ports of the console version.

gameguy6700

First of all no DD sales counted in. Second, VG chartz only does US numbers accurately. And third..in a month sales of New Vegas on consoles will drop to nothing, while PC ones will remain steady for many months.

In a year sales of PC version will most likely match 360.

Console fanboys just as always have no clue about the way the market works. We had the same deal with Crysis where console fanboys were whining that it sold merel 70K units in first three weeks, now it's close to 2mln if not more. They also whined about Bioshock sales being 90% on 360 and yet a year after the game was out both versions sales were about equal.

The majority of PC sales are done through DD now...

I honestly doubt this game sold just 90,000 units on PC. Especially considering the sales of other titles like recctear.

*Sees comment about PC Gaming Dying*

Goes to Steam Archives: "Valve's digital distribution service hits new milestone on the back of 178 percent user growth; unit sales spike 200 percent in last 12 months"

*Waves*

Cancel the wake because PC Gaming is back in business!

(But yes it is rather ironic that Fallout started on PC but has found a home elsewhere)

I bought mine on Direct 2 drive which i bet most people who bought this for pc bought it online.

[QUOTE="Elann2008"]

Yeah, they usually take into account physical copies sold. I'm sure the numbers would be higher if they added up the digital downloads. In this day and age, digital download is becoming more popular. Even for someone like me who prefers physical copies.

Cenerune

Pretty much, most of the information given out toward those organisations tracking sales are from retailers. Digital download has replaced retail on PC, which is why they always have low numbers for PC. Even developers and publishers have said that the numbers are not representative of what they actually sold on PC.

Beside that, Steam registered it peaked at 38 145 people playing it today. It's in the top 5 played games on steam and currently first with 17 911 players playing it.

Are we supposed to care? Let alone believe biased data?

Based upon the NPD data below, physical sales represent about 41% of the PC market, while digital distribution represents about 59%.

http://www.crunchgear.com/2010/09/20/pc-game-digital-sales-have-now-outpaced-physical-sales/

Using these figures, and the 90,000 retail sales reported by vgchartz, the actual total sales for New Vegas are around 220,000 for PC. Still the smallest number yes, but it's nothing to scoff at, especially in relation to the market size compared to the PS3 and 360. I think the PC is doing fine.

Woot I was 1/90000 people I feel slightly more special

tutt3r

That was funny! :)

Considering on steam there were 35,000 concurrent users, i doubt it sold 90,000 copies

Stats from today:

17,38635,084Fallout New Vegas

Sorry, I can't hear you over the extra cash in my pocket. Nah, I kid.

isn't there a digital download chart coming soon for pc games? we'll see then.

you realise most people on PC buy their games digitally right?

Despite extrapolating the digital sales as well, it is quite clear the PC version has sold the least copies of all versions of the game.

PC gaming isn't dying. In fact, it's thriving where games like Farmville are concerned. Hardcore PC gaming is being forced into a smaller and smaller niche.

Hey guise I don't know if anybody has mentioned this yet but the data apparently doesn't include digital downloads

Despite extrapolating the digital sales as well, it is quite clear the PC version has sold the least copies of all versions of the game.

PC gaming isn't dying. In fact, it's thriving where games like Farmville are concerned. Hardcore PC gaming is being forced into a smaller and smaller niche.

The_Capitalist

Based upon the NPD data below, physical sales represent about 41% of the PC market, while digital distribution represents about 59%.

http://www.crunchgear.com/2010/09/20/pc-game-digital-sales-have-now-outpaced-physical-sales/

Using these figures, and the 90,000 retail sales reported by vgchartz, the actual total sales for New Vegas are around 220,000 for PC. Still the smallest number yes, but it's nothing to scoff at, especially in relation to the market size compared to the PS3 and 360. I think the PC is doing fine.

PTMags

90,000 units

Meanwhile the X360 version sold 850,000 units and the PS3 version sold 460,000 units.

Obviously, however, the popularity of Fallout isn't that different between PC and console. It's was a hyped up release even on PC gaming forums, so I doubt that the 90,000 units is due to a lack of interest. I think we all know what the real reason for it's abominable performance is, and I really can't see how anyone can deny it considering the massive discrepancy between the amount of PC gamers talking about it and the amount who actually bought the game.

Seriously guys, piracy is the reason PC gaming is dying. Sales for all PC games should be MUCH higher than they are and publishers know it. It's the reason why most PC exclusive franchises have gone multiplat at best or console-exclusive at worst, and why most games released for the PC these days are nothing more than lazy ports of the console version.

gameguy6700

[QUOTE="gameguy6700"]

90,000 units

Meanwhile the X360 version sold 850,000 units and the PS3 version sold 460,000 units.

Obviously, however, the popularity of Fallout isn't that different between PC and console. It's was a hyped up release even on PC gaming forums, so I doubt that the 90,000 units is due to a lack of interest. I think we all know what the real reason for it's abominable performance is, and I really can't see how anyone can deny it considering the massive discrepancy between the amount of PC gamers talking about it and the amount who actually bought the game.

Seriously guys, piracy is the reason PC gaming is dying. Sales for all PC games should be MUCH higher than they are and publishers know it. It's the reason why most PC exclusive franchises have gone multiplat at best or console-exclusive at worst, and why most games released for the PC these days are nothing more than lazy ports of the console version.

sakshamH

I guess I'm one of the few old fashioned people who still want the disc. I don't really know what the point is though since I still have to use Steam and games don't even come with much of a manual in box. New Vegas didn't even come with a map - might be an effort to get people to buy the strategy guide.

[QUOTE="The_Capitalist"]

Despite extrapolating the digital sales as well, it is quite clear the PC version has sold the least copies of all versions of the game.

PC gaming isn't dying. In fact, it's thriving where games like Farmville are concerned. Hardcore PC gaming is being forced into a smaller and smaller niche.

GeneralShowzer

And you believe that Valve isn't puffing up their statistics somehow? It is rising, but are people spending more? For example, I don't buy anything from Steam unless it's on sale. Everything else is in a plastic DVD case from Amazon.

Let's admit it. PC gaming is much less dominant than it used to be, or it had hit the limits of growth long ago and has been overshadowed by console gaming ever since.

But regardless, more research is needed.

VGChartz doesn't take into account DD.

Fail thread about piracy is fail.

[QUOTE="GeneralShowzer"][QUOTE="The_Capitalist"]

Despite extrapolating the digital sales as well, it is quite clear the PC version has sold the least copies of all versions of the game.

PC gaming isn't dying. In fact, it's thriving where games like Farmville are concerned. Hardcore PC gaming is being forced into a smaller and smaller niche.

The_Capitalist

And you believe that Valve isn't puffing up their statistics somehow? It is rising, but are people spending more? For example, I don't buy anything from Steam unless it's on sale. Everything else is in a plastic DVD case from Amazon.

Let's admit it. PC gaming is much less dominant than it used to be, or it had hit the limits of growth long ago and has been overshadowed by console gaming ever since.

But regardless, more research is needed.

[QUOTE="GeneralShowzer"][QUOTE="The_Capitalist"]

Despite extrapolating the digital sales as well, it is quite clear the PC version has sold the least copies of all versions of the game.

PC gaming isn't dying. In fact, it's thriving where games like Farmville are concerned. Hardcore PC gaming is being forced into a smaller and smaller niche.

The_Capitalist

And you believe that Valve isn't puffing up their statistics somehow? It is rising, but are people spending more? For example, I don't buy anything from Steam unless it's on sale. Everything else is in a plastic DVD case from Amazon.

Let's admit it. PC gaming is much less dominant than it used to be, or it had hit the limits of growth long ago and has been overshadowed by console gaming ever since.

But regardless, more research is needed.

Also, us PC'ers are used to games decreasing in price by 50% within 4 months of release.... I imagine most of us wait, than pre-order. I know that's what I've been doing.

I watch most of my shows on the internet (through legal sites like netflix, and hulu, and comedy central.com and etc etc.) those are not counted in the ratings, for instance Flash Forward

Most of the video games I purchase are digital downloads (which is probably not counted in that either), easily 70% of my games are. (less of a carbon footprint, don't worry about disk, etc.) A lot of times better deals without the worry of Tax or shipping.

Plus I rarely buy a game when it first comes out, I wait till it comes down in price a little, by then it will have most of the patches and bugs worked out.

[QUOTE="GeneralShowzer"][QUOTE="The_Capitalist"]

Despite extrapolating the digital sales as well, it is quite clear the PC version has sold the least copies of all versions of the game.

PC gaming isn't dying. In fact, it's thriving where games like Farmville are concerned. Hardcore PC gaming is being forced into a smaller and smaller niche.

The_Capitalist

And you believe that Valve isn't puffing up their statistics somehow? It is rising, but are people spending more? For example, I don't buy anything from Steam unless it's on sale. Everything else is in a plastic DVD case from Amazon.

Let's admit it. PC gaming is much less dominant than it used to be, or it had hit the limits of growth long ago and has been overshadowed by console gaming ever since.

But regardless, more research is needed.