will the U.S. fall like Rome?

Ironically, severe long term agricultural shortfalls are probably one of the most likely internal threats to U.S. stability and power. However, these same conditions would destroy almost all of the other countries in the world much more quickly.

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[QUOTE="Aljosa23"]Social security, labour unions, upgraded infrastracture and all that. I already know what you're gonna say so it's pointless talking to you.

kettle meet potsurrealnumber5

[QUOTE="surrealnumber5"]kettle meet potAljosa23

i said please :<

Fall from the #1 spot, sure, but it would still be a more comfortable place to live than many other countries

[QUOTE="Laihendi"]

[QUOTE="Aljosa23"]Social security, labour unions, upgraded infrastracture and all that. I already know what you're gonna say so it's pointless talking to you.

Aljosa23

[QUOTE="Aljosa23"]

[QUOTE="surrealnumber5"]kettle meet potsurrealnumber5

Aljosa is one of the demanding and entitled youth that will end up wrecking Canada.

[QUOTE="Laihendi"]

[QUOTE="Aljosa23"]Social security, labour unions, upgraded infrastracture and all that. I already know what you're gonna say so it's pointless talking to you.

LJS9502_basic

Please explain how what I am saying is false. Since I apparently parrot this 24/7, you should have had plenty of time to come up with a reason for why what I'm saying is wrong.Laihendi

[QUOTE="Laihendi"]Please explain how what I am saying is false. Since I apparently parrot this 24/7, you should have had plenty of time to come up with a reason for why what I'm saying is wrong.Aljosa23

Shouldn't I get more privileges if I pay more taxes then? What if I'm like you and don't pay any at all?

Shouldn't I get more privileges if I pay more taxes then? What if I'm like you and don't pay any at all?

Storm_Marine

Edit: I don't pay taxes? Go fvck yourself.

[QUOTE="Laihendi"]Please explain how what I am saying is false. Since I apparently parrot this 24/7, you should have had plenty of time to come up with a reason for why what I'm saying is wrong.Aljosa23

:lol: this thread

[QUOTE="Aljosa23"]

[QUOTE="Laihendi"]Please explain how what I am saying is false. Since I apparently parrot this 24/7, you should have had plenty of time to come up with a reason for why what I'm saying is wrong.Storm_Marine

Shouldn't I get more privileges if I pay more taxes then? What if I'm like you and don't pay any at all?

The United States will not fall like Rome

The United States will not end up like Greece

The United States will always Prevail..

[QUOTE="Storm_Marine"]

Shouldn't I get more privileges if I pay more taxes then? What if I'm like you and don't pay any at all?

Aljosa23

Good. I want higher speed limits than people that don't pay much for taxes.

[QUOTE="Storm_Marine"]

[QUOTE="Aljosa23"]It's been said to you an infinite number of times that taxes are what you pay to keep your privilege of living in the country.

Yusuke420

Shouldn't I get more privileges if I pay more taxes then? What if I'm like you and don't pay any at all?

Pretty sure the law is the same for everyone brosephus.

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[QUOTE="Laihendi"]Please explain how what I am saying is false. Since I apparently parrot this 24/7, you should have had plenty of time to come up with a reason for why what I'm saying is wrong.Laihendi

Doubtful. The canadians are somewhat barbaric, but i wouldnt liken them to the visigoths or vandals. But honestly, other than the USSR, when's the last time a first world country really fell apart?

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="Laihendi"] The fact that nobody is willing to fix a road or bridge unless the government hires someone shows the inherent problem with government ownership of infrastructure. Everything government buys is bought with money it takes by force from its constituency. The government forced people to fund having something upgraded, regardless of whether there was enough of a demand to justify upgrading it.Laihendi

[QUOTE="Yusuke420"][QUOTE="Storm_Marine"]

Shouldn't I get more privileges if I pay more taxes then? What if I'm like you and don't pay any at all?

Storm_Marine

Pretty sure the law is the same for everyone brosephus.

[QUOTE="Storm_Marine"]

[QUOTE="Yusuke420"] Oh but you DO, certain tax loopholes can only be accessed by someone that pays a large amount of taxes (see charity deductions). Yusuke420

Pretty sure the law is the same for everyone brosephus.

Rich people only hoard their money so why are we talking about charitable deductions?

Strawman at it's best...

Nothing so dramatic will happen. It will just fade into irrelevance.

Strawman at it's best...

Yusuke420

Yes it will. Generations from now, there may be shows on TV (or equivalent) about the fall of The United State of America, and the historians on the show may be talkin' 'bout socialism and Obama as the root cause of the fall.

Mark my words.

Would this not mean that the U.S would become the Holy U.S Empire?

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Strawman at it's best...

sonicare

Yes it will. Generations from now, there may be shows on TV (or equivalent) about the fall of The United State of America, and the historians on the show may be talkin' 'bout socialism and Obama as the root cause of the fall.

Mark my words.

The__Kraken

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="Laihendi"] Obviously it's the owner of the road who would be repairing it, and his incentive to repair it would be so that people would use it and he would make money. It's an investment.Laihendi

[QUOTE="Laihendi"][QUOTE="Aljosa23"]It's been said to you an infinite number of times that taxes are what you pay to keep your privilege of living in the country.

Aljosa23

The argument that living in a country ruled by a government is a privilege makes the assumption that the government has an absolute right to all land/property in the country. Please explain why it is a privilege for someone to live on property he bought, in a house that he built.

[QUOTE="Laihendi"][QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"] Which is the government.:|Yusuke420

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="Laihendi"] And now you're ignoring the part where I said government shouldn't own things because the only money government is capable of acquiring (which is necessary for the maintenance of infrastructure) is via taxation.Laihendi

[QUOTE="Laihendi"]

FDR was America's Caesar. A horrible president.

Aljosa23

edit: Just saw your edit. Caesar was anything but horrible and FDR is a top 3 Pres.

The United States will not fall like Rome

The United States will not end up like Greece

The United States will always Prevail..

Floridaman46

Unless there is a barbarian horde, a division of the empire and a creation of new states... I don't see that happening. However I do see a diminishing military and economic power.curono

[QUOTE="curono"]Unless there is a barbarian horde, a division of the empire and a creation of new states... I don't see that happening. However I do see a diminishing military and economic power.LJS9502_basic

Yes, but under this idea people would also be able to charge at each interval which could be every 4 or 5 miles. Also without government regulation, people would charge whatever they wanted and it would quickly become very expensive just to commute to work every morning. You work have to work out rate with every single land owner in every part of the roads that want to be build. What about road trips? There's miles of desert with no one having any property rights over the land because it is untenable, so how do you bridge those gaps?Yusuke420

ITT: things are broken and we need to fix them, just dont change anything.

sounds just like politics, nothing will change and so everything will be forced to.