Will Pedophilia ever be accepted like H0m0sexuality here?

That's the thing. they shouldn't have to hide who they are just because a society isn't tolerant of that characteristic, regardless of what it is. hamstergeddon

Exactly. It's not different at all. Men being attracted to men used to be looked at in the same way men being attracted to children is now. People just can't let go of conditiong.Righteous_Rage

[QUOTE="MetalGear_Ninty"]...and how is this attitude any different to negatives attitudes towards homosexuality. I see no differences in this respect.LJS9502_basic

[QUOTE="MetalGear_Ninty"][QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]Some things should not be tolerated and that is one.

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[QUOTE="Righteous_Rage"] Exactly. It's not different at all. Men being attracted to men used to be looked at in the same way men being attracted to children is now. People just can't let go of conditiong.LJS9502_basic

[QUOTE="hamstergeddon"] Why? You can't just make that statement and pass it off as fact. I don't see why passive pedophilia is any different than homosexuality in terms of condition. They're both things that the people just can't help but feel. And it's part of their identity. Hell, discriminating against pedophilia and homosexuality is no worse than discriminating by race or gender. Why should we let society decide the taboos without questioning it? LJS9502_basic

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="MetalGear_Ninty"]...and how is this attitude any different to negatives attitudes towards homosexuality. I see no differences in this respect.Righteous_Rage

[QUOTE="MetalGear_Ninty"]...and how is this attitude any different to negatives attitudes towards homosexuality. I see no differences in this respect.LJS9502_basic

[QUOTE="Righteous_Rage"] Exactly. It's not different at all. Men being attracted to men used to be looked at in the same way men being attracted to children is now. People just can't let go of conditiong.LJS9502_basic

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]Some things should not be tolerated and that is one.Righteous_Rage

Maybe is not just intolerance, but the urge or the feeling to protect someone, like i said before, i love to death my nice, and just to think about letting her near a pedophile make me sick and actually scare me, i don't care if he is active or not, if he has feelings or not, if he is sick or not, if he is decent or not, i just couldn't accept him knowing that maybe exist the sligthly possibility (maybe the 0.001%) of some nasty scenario.

Just put yourself in my shoes, and think it for a second, could you accept a person like this?

First I would need you to prove that your so called passive pedophilia exists. LJS9502_basic

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="MetalGear_Ninty"]...and how is this attitude any different to negatives attitudes towards homosexuality. I see no differences in this respect.Righteous_Rage

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[QUOTE="hamstergeddon"] Why? You can't just make that statement and pass it off as fact. I don't see why passive pedophilia is any different than homosexuality in terms of condition. They're both things that the people just can't help but feel. And it's part of their identity. Hell, discriminating against pedophilia and homosexuality is no worse than discriminating by race or gender. Why should we let society decide the taboos without questioning it? hamstergeddon

Why? You can't just make that statement and pass it off as fact. I don't see why passive pedophilia is any different than homosexuality in terms of condition. They're both things that the people just can't help but feel. And it's part of their identity. Hell, discriminating against pedophilia and homosexuality is no worse than discriminating by race or gender. Why should we let society decide the taboos without questioning it?hamstergeddon

It's different because someone who has constant desires but does not act upon them will become increasingly restless and messed up the longer he goes unsatisfied. If a homosexual person acts upon those desires, there's no problem; however, if a pedophile acts upon those desires, there's a rather large problem. The entire reason why homosexual people can be fully accepted into society is because it's now known that they pose no danger to anyone whatsoever.

If someone could prove that it is 100% guaranteed a pedophile will never act upon his desires and will be unaffected by that, then that'd be one thing. As it stands right now, however, I would certainly not let a pedophile be near my kids, regardless of how much he swears he won't do anything. There's a reason why homosexual people who repress and deny their desires are almost inevitably caught with their hand in the proverbial cookie jar - eventually a guy just can't take it anymore. The desire must either go away, or it must be acted upon; to both have a desire yet never act upon it puts a human in an unstable state of cognitive dissonance.

[QUOTE="Righteous_Rage"][QUOTE="MetalGear_Ninty"] ...and how is this attitude any different to negatives attitudes towards homosexuality. I see no differences in this respect.sSubZerOo

[QUOTE="Righteous_Rage"][QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]Oh well.That's not my problem. Explotation of children is disgusting.LJS9502_basic

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]First I would need you to prove that your so called passive pedophilia exists. Righteous_Rage

[QUOTE="Righteous_Rage"][QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]Oh well.That's not my problem. Explotation of children is disgusting.LJS9502_basic

Exactly. It's not different at all. Men being attracted to men used to be looked at in the same way men being attracted to children is now. People just can't let go of conditiong.Righteous_Rage

[QUOTE="sSubZerOo"] It has nothing to do with it being natural.. It has to do with the fact that CHILDREN DO NOT have the ability to consent under law, so in essence its RAPE.. Righteous_Rage

Its a dead give-away!

[QUOTE="Righteous_Rage"] Pedophiles who look at pictures of clothed children and satisfy their urges with those. In that scenario, there is no harm done to the child, or anyone.LJS9502_basic

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="Righteous_Rage"] Pedophiles who look at pictures of clothed children and satisfy their urges with those. In that scenario, there is no harm done to the child, or anyone.Righteous_Rage

[QUOTE="hamstergeddon"]Why? You can't just make that statement and pass it off as fact. I don't see why passive pedophilia is any different than homosexuality in terms of condition. They're both things that the people just can't help but feel. And it's part of their identity. Hell, discriminating against pedophilia and homosexuality is no worse than discriminating by race or gender. Why should we let society decide the taboos without questioning it?GabuEx

It's different because someone who has constant desires but does not act upon them will become increasingly restless and messed up the longer he goes unsatisfied. If a homosexual person acts upon those desires, there's no problem; however, if a pedophile acts upon those desires, there's a rather large problem. The entire reason why homosexual people can be fully accepted into society is because it's now known that they pose no danger to anyone whatsoever.

If someone could prove that it is 100% guaranteed a pedophile will never act upon his desires and will be unaffected by that, then that'd be one thing. As it stands right now, however, I would certainly not let a pedophile be near my kids, regardless of how much he swears he won't do anything. There's a reason why homosexual people who repress and deny their desires are almost inevitably caught with their hand in the proverbial cookie jar - eventually a guy just can't take it anymore. The desire must either go away, or it must be acted upon; to both have a desire yet never act upon it puts a human in an unstablestate of cognitive dissonance.

You can't shift the burden of proof -- it is not our responsibility to prove (quite impossibly), that there are peadophiles that have never acted on their desires. How on Earth are we suppossed to prove that, in a sense, how could you prove that all peadophiles do act on their desires? Also, there are religious men who live thier whole lives abstaining from sex and porn -- that's proof at least that it is humanly possible to abstain from sexual desire.MetalGear_Ninty

Why did you use the same avatar? :?

Its a dead give-away!

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Hi there!

[QUOTE="Righteous_Rage"][QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]And you know this how? People are not standing on street corners handing out harmless photos.:|LJS9502_basic

[QUOTE="Righteous_Rage"][QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]Oh well.That's not my problem. Explotation of children is disgusting.sSubZerOo

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[QUOTE="Righteous_Rage"] Because pedophiles have admitted it publicly. Handing out photos? What a silly argument. A pedophile can find pictures of kids anywhere and everywhere.Righteous_Rage

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Hi there!

Why? You can't just make that statement and pass it off as fact. I don't see why passive pedophilia is any different than homosexuality in terms of condition. They're both things that the people just can't help but feel. And it's part of their identity. Hell, discriminating against pedophilia and homosexuality is no worse than discriminating by race or gender. Why should we let society decide the taboos without questioning it?hamstergeddon

It's different because someone who has constant desires but does not act upon them will become increasingly restless and messed up the longer he goes unsatisfied. If a homosexual person acts upon those desires, there's no problem; however, if a pedophile acts upon those desires, there's a rather large problem. The entire reason why homosexual people can be fully accepted into society is because it's now known that they pose no danger to anyone whatsoever.

If someone could prove that it is 100% guaranteed a pedophile will never act upon his desires and will be unaffected by that, then that'd be one thing. As it stands right now, however, I would certainly not let a pedophile be near my kids, regardless of how much he swears he won't do anything. There's a reason why homosexual people who repress and deny their desires are almost inevitably caught with their hand in the proverbial cookie jar - eventually a guy just can't take it anymore. The desire must either go away, or it must be acted upon; to both have a desire yet never act upon it puts a human in an unstablestate of cognitive dissonance.

[QUOTE="Righteous_Rage"][QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]Yes and the sites they use are not innocent.....;)

[QUOTE="MetalGear_Ninty"] You can't shift the burden of proof -- it is not our responsibility to prove (quite impossibly), that there are peadophiles that have never acted on their desires. How on Earth are we suppossed to prove that, in a sense, how could you prove that all peadophiles do act on their desires? Also, there are religious men who live thier whole lives abstaining from sex and porn -- that's proof at least that it is humanly possible to abstain from sexual desire.LJS9502_basic

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[QUOTE="Righteous_Rage"] Some pedophiles look at child porn, yes. I'm only saying it's posible to resist. Because it is. The bigger problem in that scenario is the fact that the child porn even exists. The pornographer/molester is the bad guy in that scenario, for abusing the child.Righteous_Rage

[QUOTE="Righteous_Rage"] I'll get banned for censor bypassing (but again I don't give a ), as I know Gabu is just waiting for me to commit a violation so he can get me out of here (he thinks I don't know his game), so I'll be back with another account later. I don't know how much longer this one will last, so I'll just say bye now! Bye!zakkro

I don't want to force you to accept it. I hate acting peadophiles probably more than anything in this world -- but I don't think you can condemn a person who has not commited a crime of any sort.MetalGear_Ninty

You can't shift the burden of proof -- it is not our responsibility to prove (quite impossibly), that there are peadophiles that have never acted on their desires. How on Earth are we suppossed to prove that, in a sense, how could you prove that all peadophiles do act on their desires? Also, there are religious men who live thier whole lives abstaining from sex and porn -- that's proof at least that it is humanly possible to abstain from sexual desire.MetalGear_Ninty

You can't shift the burden of proof -- it is not our responsibility to prove (quite impossibly), that there are peadophiles that have never acted on their desires. How on Earth are we suppossed to prove that, in a sense, how could you prove that all peadophiles do act on their desires?MetalGear_Ninty

I'm just talking about basic facts of human nature that apply to everyone. If a desire exists, and if nothing is done to satisfy it, then a human is in an unstable state of cognitive dissonance, where there are two competing forces, one of which must inevitably win, as no human can ever exist in a state of perpetual cognitive dissonance. If the will not to act on that desire ultimately wins, then the desire goes away; if the desire wins, then the desired action is performed. Both of these outcomes will resolve the dissonance in different ways, but one way or another, it gets resolved.

Also, there are religious men who live thier whole lives abstaining from sex and porn -- that's proof at least that it is humanly possible to abstain from sexual desire.MetalGear_Ninty

A question must be asked: to what extent did those people experience sexual desire?

If someone truly was afflicted from a strong desire his entire life and yet never once acted upon it, I submit that that person would no longer be a sane human being by the time he dies. Like I said, there's a reason why homosexual people who repress and deny their desires inevitably get eventually caught in a homosexual affair - it's just as I said, the human brain cannot perpetually exist with a desire that is unsatisfied. They, eventually, cannot take it anymore, and indulge in their desires.

[QUOTE="MetalGear_Ninty"] I don't want to force you to accept it. I hate acting peadophiles probably more than anything in this world -- but I don't think you can condemn a person who has not commited a crime of any sort.LJS9502_basic

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It's different because someone who has constant desires but does not act upon them will become increasingly restless and messed up the longer he goes unsatisfied. If a homosexual person acts upon those desires, there's no problem; however, if a pedophile acts upon those desires, there's a rather large problem. The entire reason why homosexual people can be fully accepted into society is because it's now known that they pose no danger to anyone whatsoever.

If someone could prove that it is 100% guaranteed a pedophile will never act upon his desires and will be unaffected by that, then that'd be one thing. As it stands right now, however, I would certainly not let a pedophile be near my kids, regardless of how much he swears he won't do anything. There's a reason why homosexual people who repress and deny their desires are almost inevitably caught with their hand in the proverbial cookie jar - eventually a guy just can't take it anymore. The desire must either go away, or it must be acted upon; to both have a desire yet never act upon it puts a human in an unstablestate of cognitive dissonance.

sSubZerOo

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[QUOTE="MetalGear_Ninty"] I don't want to force you to accept it. I hate acting peadophiles probably more than anything in this world -- but I don't think you can condemn a person who has not commited a crime of any sort.Righteous_Rage

[QUOTE="MetalGear_Ninty"] I don't want to force you to accept it. I hate acting peadophiles probably more than anything in this world -- but I don't think you can condemn a person who has not commited a crime of any sort.LJS9502_basic

If someone could prove that it is 100% guaranteed a pedophile will never act upon his desires and will be unaffected by that, GabuEx

EDIT: And for that matter, have you read my original post a couple pages back LJS? If you haven't yet, you probably should since that's what me and Righteuous_Rage are basing our arguments on...

I hope not.

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[QUOTE="MetalGear_Ninty"] I don't want to force you to accept it. I hate acting peadophiles probably more than anything in this world -- but I don't think you can condemn a person who has not commited a crime of any sort.Ezgam3r

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Hi there!

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[QUOTE="GabuEx"]If someone could prove that it is 100% guaranteed a pedophile will never act upon his desires and will be unaffected by that, hamstergeddon

Those who are gay or straight have numerous options, including hiring prostitutes, finding people at bars, et cetera. There is no guarantee that acting upon their urges will bring anyone harm. The same is not true for pedophiles.