Why Americans Hate RAP / HIP HOP music ?

I juts don't like it based on what I hear from it. It seems the only time I hear it is when old cars pass by with their windows rattling. What I do hear from those songs are just cussing and funky slang. I didn't say I hate it, but from what I hear I just don't like it. :(Mr_Cumberdale

cussing, sex, drugs, guns,murder, cars,women, jewelryand money.Majority of rap songsinclude a reference to these things, but there are some that don't.

[QUOTE="Mr_Cumberdale"]I juts don't like it based on what I hear from it. It seems the only time I hear it is when old cars pass by with their windows rattling. What I do hear from those songs are just cussing and funky slang. I didn't say I hate it, but from what I hear I just don't like it. :(JJGT500

cussing, sex, drugs, guns,murder, cars,women, jewelryand money.Majority of rap songsinclude a reference to these things, but there are some that don't.

[QUOTE="Mr_Cumberdale"]I juts don't like it based on what I hear from it. It seems the only time I hear it is when old cars pass by with their windows rattling. What I do hear from those songs are just cussing and funky slang. I didn't say I hate it, but from what I hear I just don't like it. :(JJGT500

cussing, sex, drugs, guns,murder, cars,women, jewelryand money.Majority of rap songsinclude a reference to these things, but there are some that don't.

[QUOTE="emb4"][QUOTE="Strormbringer"]

It did ruin America's Pop Culture.

Strormbringer

Changed for the worse. Gang Warfare,Gang Territory and Graffiti is not cool.

[QUOTE="JJGT500"]

[QUOTE="Mr_Cumberdale"]I juts don't like it based on what I hear from it. It seems the only time I hear it is when old cars pass by with their windows rattling. What I do hear from those songs are just cussing and funky slang. I didn't say I hate it, but from what I hear I just don't like it. :(bigdcstile

cussing, sex, drugs, guns,murder, cars,women, jewelryand money.Majority of rap songsinclude a reference to these things, but there are some that don't.

If you've listened to alot of rap songs you would know what "majority" means.

[QUOTE="bigdcstile"][QUOTE="JJGT500"]

cussing, sex, drugs, guns,murder, cars,women, jewelryand money.Majority of rap songsinclude a reference to these things, but there are some that don't.

JJGT500

If you've listened to alot of rap songs you would know what "majority" means.

Any genre can be demeaned with a majority statement.

I don't hate it, but it's just not my kind of music. If I hear it playing in the background then that's fine, but it's not something I'm going to go out of my way to look up/find.

[QUOTE="bigdcstile"][QUOTE="JJGT500"]

cussing, sex, drugs, guns,murder, cars,women, jewelryand money.Majority of rap songsinclude a reference to these things, but there are some that don't.

JJGT500

If you've listened to alot of rap songs you would know what "majority" means.

[QUOTE="JJGT500"]

[QUOTE="bigdcstile"] I keep hearing the 'majority' statement and, yet, never have anyone somehow prove that over 51% of the music can be characterized as this.bigdcstile

If you've listened to alot of rap songs you would know what "majority" means.

716 rap artists and only 12% have any vulgar language or reference to the things i listed? That's very hard to believe

[QUOTE="bigdcstile"][QUOTE="JJGT500"]

If you've listened to alot of rap songs you would know what "majority" means.

JJGT500

716 rap artists and only 12% have any vulgar language or reference to the things i listed? That's very hard to believe

I'm European and I hate Hip Hop/Rap too.

It is just dumb, low grade music, or whatever you want to call it. Strictly for low IQ or under developed minds.

Videodogg

I find it amusing that the most ridiculous poster so far is ridiculing the intelligence of those that like rap/hip hop.

Generalisations for the lose.

It is just dumb, low grade music, or whatever you want to call it. Strictly for low IQ or under developed minds.

Videodogg

This is the dumbest response yet. So have you ever listened to a rap song and heard how complex and creative the lyrics are. It's not good to stereotype a whole genre because of a minority or simply because you don't like it.
I don't understand why when people dislike rap they make it seem as if it's like a terrible evil that needs to be contained and destroyed. Really pisses me off.

Nothing but cussing, drugs, no talent hacks...I mean, it doesn't even need to be considered musicThey have no clue what real music isIt's all just clicks and whistles....

Yeah. :roll:

I don't understand why when people dislike rap they make it seem as if it's like a terrible evil that needs to be contained and destroyed. Really pisses me off.

nickz_fpk

QFT.

I don't get it. With very few exceptions I don't like metal but I realize it just isn't for me. I'm not going to try to convince the people who like it that it sucks even though I don't really know much about the genre. Yet that's exactly what happens in these threads - the people who say rap's "ghetto garbage" and takes no talent have proven over and over again that they don't really know anything about the genre outside of hearing a Waka Flocka Flame song on the radio.

It's a matter of taste as far as the actual music goes. I don't particularly like it at all, but the music itself doesn't bother me.

What does bug me a little, is that literally 100 percent of the time when I'm stuck in traffic next to some clown who is BLASTING his music to the point that the bumpers are practically falling off his cruddy car, it's Rap or Hip-Hop. Same goes for when it's after 2am and there is a party going on in my neighborhood and some people don't care that some of their neighbors have work the next day so they BLAST their music.... without fail it's Rap or Hip-Hop. I don't blame the music, I blame the people, but I do wonder about that correlation sometimes.

Like 90 percent of Americans like it. It was funny, I went to prom last week and me and my date were like the only people that weren't dancing to it. We jumped in for the one rave song they played though... in short, prom is lame because of the music :P

they clearly don't all hate it.

I'm pretty sure Hip-Hop/Rap is still very huge in the States and countries I have personally visited also get in on our Hip-Hop/Rap scene and then start producing their own. I just think on these boards people that enjoy hip-hop are the minority and get railed on for now reason.

I mean I love hip-hop but I don't snoop around in the metal or rock threads bashing people or trying to convince them they are tards and need to listen to something else. Seriously people on here need to get get off their high horse around here and just let people listen to what they like.

They're about pretty much about nothing but sex and violence, and they promote violence in people who listen.

I don't think it defines America............that being said last I checked it was very popular here in America.

ActuallyI see most people blame pop for ruining rap

Im american and I dont hate rap/Hip-hop. I like it

You obviously havent been to my school. Thats all the kids do, rapping. Or I should say trying to rap, man they suck.

What? So people from other countries dont hate hip hop/rap?00-Riddick-00

They dont hate rap, they DESPISE it:twisted::lol:

I don't like most rap. I like Hip Hop. Example, I dislike Waka Flaka, but I like Lupe Fiasco. Those can never be considered to be the same genre. Rap is something you do. Hip Hop is a culture.

[QUOTE="mems_1224"][QUOTE="Strormbringer"]

Changed for the worse. Gang Warfare,Gang Territory and Graffiti is not cool.

Strormbringer

I think rap is dumb music. I'm not calling people who like rap dumb, so don't get hysterical here. When you peel back the layers of mainstream/club rap music, there is very little substance to it. Typically this music contains shallow lyrics, sampled sounds from existing familiar songs, and a lot of repetition. I know dumb and simple things have their own place and time, but I've never been able to embrace them in the music I listen to.

It's a matter of taste as far as the actual music goes. I don't particularly like it at all, but the music itself doesn't bother me.

What does bug me a little, is that literally 100 percent of the time when I'm stuck in traffic next to some clown who is BLASTING his music to the point that the bumpers are practically falling off his cruddy car, it's Rap or Hip-Hop. Same goes for when it's after 2am and there is a party going on in my neighborhood and some people don't care that some of their neighbors have work the next day so they BLAST their music.... without fail it's Rap or Hip-Hop. I don't blame the music, I blame the people, but I do wonder about that correlation sometimes.

YellowOneKinobi

Why don't you say what you really mean instead of beating around the bus? What are you trying to say about the "people". You do realize that not everybody that listens to hip hop in the same, right? You do realize that rock fans blast their music too, right?

I think rap is dumb music. I'm not calling people who like rap dumb, so don't get hysterical here. When you peel back the layers of mainstream/club rap music, there is very little substance to it. Typically this music contains shallow lyrics, sampled sounds from existing familiar songs, and a lot of repetition. I know dumb and simple things have their own place and time, but I've never been able to embrace them in the music I listen to.

Darthmatt

People in this thread have posted tons of examples that don't have samples, have substantial lyrics, etc.

If you think rap is dumb music, it's not likely that you've listened to enough to make any valid statement about what is "typical" of rap. I mean, you do realize that the crap that's on the radio right now is not neccesarily the majority of rap music overall, right?

[QUOTE="YellowOneKinobi"]

It's a matter of taste as far as the actual music goes. I don't particularly like it at all, but the music itself doesn't bother me.

What does bug me a little, is that literally 100 percent of the time when I'm stuck in traffic next to some clown who is BLASTING his music to the point that the bumpers are practically falling off his cruddy car, it's Rap or Hip-Hop. Same goes for when it's after 2am and there is a party going on in my neighborhood and some people don't care that some of their neighbors have work the next day so they BLAST their music.... without fail it's Rap or Hip-Hop. I don't blame the music, I blame the people, but I do wonder about that correlation sometimes.

GreySeal9

Why don't you say what you really mean instead of beating around the bus? What are you trying to say about the "people". You do realize that not everybody that listens to hip hop in the same, right? You do realize that rock fans blast their music too, right?

[QUOTE="GreySeal9"]

[QUOTE="YellowOneKinobi"]

It's a matter of taste as far as the actual music goes. I don't particularly like it at all, but the music itself doesn't bother me.

What does bug me a little, is that literally 100 percent of the time when I'm stuck in traffic next to some clown who is BLASTING his music to the point that the bumpers are practically falling off his cruddy car, it's Rap or Hip-Hop. Same goes for when it's after 2am and there is a party going on in my neighborhood and some people don't care that some of their neighbors have work the next day so they BLAST their music.... without fail it's Rap or Hip-Hop. I don't blame the music, I blame the people, but I do wonder about that correlation sometimes.

YellowOneKinobi

Why don't you say what you really mean instead of beating around the bus? What are you trying to say about the "people". You do realize that not everybody that listens to hip hop in the same, right? You do realize that rock fans blast their music too, right?

Who cares if in 100% of your experiences it's hip hop music. That doesn't change the FACT that people that listen to rock blast their music too.

I didn't say anything about race. I'm asking you: what are you trying to say about people that listen to hip hop?Notice that I didn't say "what are you trying to say about black people?" Because if I wanted to say that, I would say that.

So again, what are you trying to say about people that listen to hip hop?

[QUOTE="YellowOneKinobi"]

[QUOTE="GreySeal9"]

Why don't you say what you really mean instead of beating around the bus? What are you trying to say about the "people". You do realize that not everybody that listens to hip hop in the same, right? You do realize that rock fans blast their music too, right?

GreySeal9

Who cares if in 100% of your experiences it's hip hop music. That doesn't change the FACT that people that listen to rock blast their music too.

I didn't say anything about race. I'm asking you: what are you trying to say about people that listen to hip hop?Notice that I didn't say "what are you trying to say about black people?" Because if I wanted to say that, I would say that.

So again, what are you trying to say about people that listen to hip hop?

[QUOTE="GreySeal9"]

[QUOTE="YellowOneKinobi"] Did you read my post? Did I say that sometimes I come across rock and roll blasing at unbearable levels? No, I said that literally 100% of the time the people I come across it is, without fail, rap/hip-hop music. If you're getting ready to call me a racist or something, you are WAY off because the race of the people I'm referring to are from all over the spectrum. If you think I'm embellishing, that's fine with me, but it doesn't change my experiences.

YellowOneKinobi

Who cares if in 100% of your experiences it's hip hop music. That doesn't change the FACT that people that listen to rock blast their music too.

I didn't say anything about race. I'm asking you: what are you trying to say about people that listen to hip hop?Notice that I didn't say "what are you trying to say about black people?" Because if I wanted to say that, I would say that.

So again, what are you trying to say about people that listen to hip hop?

And why do you think it makes sense to draw this conclusion from a relatively small amount of people versus millions? Why even go there?

Also, you once made a thread in which you tried to use a fight at a hip hop awards events to generalize hip hop listeners. Remember, you said, "This is not surprising?" or something like that.

Your comments in this thread remind me of that.

[QUOTE="YellowOneKinobi"]

[QUOTE="GreySeal9"]

Who cares if in 100% of your experiences it's hip hop music. That doesn't change the FACT that people that listen to rock blast their music too.

I didn't say anything about race. I'm asking you: what are you trying to say about people that listen to hip hop?Notice that I didn't say "what are you trying to say about black people?" Because if I wanted to say that, I would say that.

So again, what are you trying to say about people that listen to hip hop?

GreySeal9

And why do you think it makes sense to draw this conclusion from a relatively small amount of people versus millions? Why even go there?

Also, you once made a thread in which you tried to use a fight at a hip hop awards events to generalize hip hop listeners. Remember, you said, "This is not surprising?" or something like that.

Your comments in this thread remind me of that.

Am I saying it should be banned? Nope. I actually qualified in my original post by saying that whether or not music is "good" is a matter of taste. But I PERSONALLY don't like hip-hop because all of the above comes to mind. Or am I not allowed to have an opinion based on my own observations?

[QUOTE="GreySeal9"]

[QUOTE="YellowOneKinobi"] I'd say that, IN MY EXPERIENCES, I've found that people who listen to hip-hop seem to be pretty self involved, to the point where they couldn't care less if they are bothering the hell out of everyone else. Does that mean that everyone that listens to hip-hop is like that, I wouldn't think so. That also doesn't mean that the only people that act rude are rap/hip-hop fans. I was just stating what I HAVE SEEN. Take from that whatever you would like.

YellowOneKinobi

And why do you think it makes sense to draw this conclusion from a relatively small amount of people versus millions? Why even go there?

Also, you once made a thread in which you tried to use a fight at a hip hop awards events to generalize hip hop listeners. Remember, you said, "This is not surprising?" or something like that.

Your comments in this thread remind me of that.

Am I saying it should be banned? Nope. I actually qualified in my original post by saying that whether or not music is "good" is a matter of taste. But I PERSONALLY don't like hip-hop because all of the above comes to mind. Or am I not allowed to have an opinion based on my own observations?

When did I accuse you of wanting it banned?

Your own observations are hardly a good basis for generalizations on hip hop fans. Using that fight as some kind of basis for a generalization was especially ridiculous as that kind of thing usually doesn't take place at most hip hop award shows and fights have happened in several different venues, not just hip ho venues. It was an unfair generalizaation and I don't know why you insist on trying to justify it.

Also, you'd probably bristle if I said that based on my own experiences, conservatives tend to be racist just because I observed some conservative racists.

[QUOTE="Darthmatt"]

I think rap is dumb music. I'm not calling people who like rap dumb, so don't get hysterical here. When you peel back the layers of mainstream/club rap music, there is very little substance to it. Typically this music contains shallow lyrics, sampled sounds from existing familiar songs, and a lot of repetition. I know dumb and simple things have their own place and time, but I've never been able to embrace them in the music I listen to.

GreySeal9

People in this thread have posted tons of examples that don't have samples, have substantial lyrics, etc.

If you think rap is dumb music, it's not likely that you've listened to enough to make any valid statement about what is "typical" of rap. I mean, you do realize that the crap that's on the radio right now is not neccesarily the majority of rap music overall, right?