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#251 battlefront23
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[QUOTE="battlefront23"]How are they not different, now? Before Jesus' sacrifice, homosexual acts were punishable by death on the spot. (and various other sins, just using that as an example) Now all that is needed is forgiveness. I'd say that's quite a difference.pianist

The act is still punishable by a fate worse than death. In the grand scheme of things, what happens to you on Earth is of very little consequence. Eternity is much longer. Homosexuals are still not faced with an incredibly harsh punishment for fulfilling their biological urges. And they are still shunned by Christians here on Earth, even if not murdered. Things are not different in any meaningful way.

It is, but the difference is that someone has taken the place for that sin. And whether biological or not, when I lust after a woman, I feel the guilt in my heart. I do think all guys feel this guilt, regardless of if they deny it. And I do agree many of my fellow Christians can be douches to homosexuals, but I try my hardest to not be. :)
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#252 twilightpanda
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[QUOTE="Locke562"]Wait, What was this thread about again?MrPraline
About, uh, well, it had something to do with God.

you mean the non-existant creator :o :P
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#253 mindstorm
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[QUOTE="battlefront23"]How are they not different, now? Before Jesus' sacrifice, homosexual acts were punishable by death on the spot. (and various other sins, just using that as an example) Now all that is needed is forgiveness. I'd say that's quite a difference.pianist

The act is still punishable by a fate worse than death. In the grand scheme of things, what happens to you on Earth is of very little consequence. Eternity is much longer. Homosexuals are still faced with an incredibly harsh punishment for fulfilling their biological urges. And they are still shunned by Christians here on Earth, even if not murdered. Things are not different in any meaningful way.

The rightful punishment is still death (which we all deserve). The problem is many Christian simply do not grasp this and thus become legalistic and condemning as opposed to preaching the love of Christ.
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#254 battlefront23
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[QUOTE="Locke562"]Wait, What was this thread about again?MrPraline
About, uh, well, it had something to do with God.

Hence the post count. lol
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#255 Locke562
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[QUOTE="MrPraline"][QUOTE="Locke562"]Wait, What was this thread about again?twilightpanda
About, uh, well, it had something to do with God.

you mean the non-existant creator :o :P

Ahh, Back on track.
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#256 battlefront23
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[QUOTE="xaos"][QUOTE="battlefront23"][QUOTE="MasterBolt360"] Ah hah, so I'm not alone! :P

Nope. If you like metalcore, are a Christian, have conservative values, and like popular movies, you're automatically flamed on this forum. Trust me. I know. :P

Yay! Let's ALL be victims =D

Hey it's true! I swear! :P
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#257 MrPraline
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[QUOTE="MrPraline"][QUOTE="Locke562"]Wait, What was this thread about again?twilightpanda
About, uh, well, it had something to do with God.

you mean the non-existant creator :o :P

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And I do agree many of my fellow Christians can be douches to homosexuals, but I try my hardest to not be. :)battlefront23

That's good to hear. :)

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#259 mindstorm
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[QUOTE="MrPraline"][QUOTE="Locke562"]Wait, What was this thread about again?twilightpanda
About, uh, well, it had something to do with God.

you mean the non-existant creator :o :P

Wait?! We don't exist?! :o
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[QUOTE="twilightpanda"][QUOTE="MrPraline"] About, uh, well, it had something to do with God.MrPraline
you mean the non-existant creator :o :P

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i need to get over 9,000 posts!!!!! :P
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#261 battlefront23
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[QUOTE="twilightpanda"][QUOTE="MrPraline"] About, uh, well, it had something to do with God.mindstorm
you mean the non-existant creator :o :P

Wait?! We don't exist?! :o

Oh noez! The can of wormz is nowz openzz!
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[QUOTE="twilightpanda"][QUOTE="MrPraline"] About, uh, well, it had something to do with God.mindstorm
you mean the non-existant creator :o :P

Wait?! We don't exist?! :o

who is we? :o i don't associate myself with you lol :P
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#263 pianist
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The rightful punishment is still death (which we all deserve). The problem is many Christian simply do not grasp this and thus become legalistic and condemning as opposed to preaching the love of Christ.mindstorm

Agreed on the second sentence. The first, not so much, as children who do not obey their parents do not deserve death. I didn't ask for this existence, and if I knew getting into it involved the possibility of eternal torture for not worshipping and obeying a mighty being that feels it is just to torture souls eternally for disobedience, I would have declined.

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It is, but the difference is that someone has taken the place for that sin. And whether biological or not, when I lust after a woman, I feel the guilt in my heart. I do think all guys feel this guilt, regardless of if they deny it. And I do agree many of my fellow Christians can be douches to homosexuals, but I try my hardest to not be. :)battlefront23

If every guy felt guy felt guilt after having sexual urges, I have a hard time believing that the porn industry would be as big as it is. :P Just saying.

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#265 uberbra
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screw the bible, its caused more harm than good.

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#266 MrPraline
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don't associate myself with you lol :Ptwilightpanda
hahaha Easy now. :P
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#267 battlefront23
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screw the bible, its caused more harm than good.

uberbra
Where do I even begin... :roll:
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#268 battlefront23
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[QUOTE="battlefront23"]It is, but the difference is that someone has taken the place for that sin. And whether biological or not, when I lust after a woman, I feel the guilt in my heart. I do think all guys feel this guilt, regardless of if they deny it. And I do agree many of my fellow Christians can be douches to homosexuals, but I try my hardest to not be. :)Dark_Knight6

If every guy felt guy felt guilt after having sexual urges, I have a hard time believing that the porn industry would be as big as it is. :P Just saying.

After repeatedly doing a sin, the guilt starts to wear thin. Or become almost non-existent in some cases. Like mine. :(
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#269 chessmaster1989
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[QUOTE="mindstorm"][QUOTE="twilightpanda"] you mean the non-existant creator :o :Ptwilightpanda
Wait?! We don't exist?! :o

who is we? :o i don't associate myself with you lol :P

Aww, no hawt panda on preacher action here, then... :(

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#270 Locke562
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[QUOTE="uberbra"]

screw the bible, its caused more harm than good.

battlefront23
Where do I even begin... :roll:

How about at the beginning?
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#271 WeaponXY
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I live in Texas and am Christian, but I would not want the Bible being taught in my school. There are many different religious beliefs in school, and I don't think the Bible should be taught to all students. A class would be fine to me, since it'd be optional, but not this.

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#272 mindstorm
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[QUOTE="Dark_Knight6"]

[QUOTE="battlefront23"]It is, but the difference is that someone has taken the place for that sin. And whether biological or not, when I lust after a woman, I feel the guilt in my heart. I do think all guys feel this guilt, regardless of if they deny it. And I do agree many of my fellow Christians can be douches to homosexuals, but I try my hardest to not be. :)battlefront23

If every guy felt guy felt guilt after having sexual urges, I have a hard time believing that the porn industry would be as big as it is. :P Just saying.

After repeatedly doing a sin, the guilt starts to wear thin. Or become almost non-existent in some cases. Like mine. :(

I truly hate desensitization when it comes to things like this....
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#273 Locke562
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[QUOTE="twilightpanda"][QUOTE="mindstorm"] Wait?! We don't exist?! :ochessmaster1989

who is we? :o i don't associate myself with you lol :P

Aww, no hawt panda on preacher action here, then... :(

Panda's are Bears. Bears maul people.
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wtf happen from seperation from church and state

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#275 mindstorm
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[QUOTE="twilightpanda"][QUOTE="mindstorm"]Wait?! We don't exist?! :ochessmaster1989

who is we? :o i don't associate myself with you lol :P

Aww, no hawt panda on preacher action here, then... :(

Now that would be something for the news to talk about for a week.... o.0
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Aww, no hawt panda on preacher action here, then... :(chessmaster1989
I wouldn't count it out yet. It's still early, right panda? :P
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#277 twilightpanda
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[QUOTE="twilightpanda"]don't associate myself with you lol :PMrPraline
hahaha Easy now. :P

i was joking :P i was'nt serious about that :P
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#278 nimatoad2000
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wow this is complete garbage, whoever lives in texas that is still sane, move out now. texas should suceed from the union, i'd be happy, republicams would never win president without texas ( soo many college points) anymore, and .. well texas dosnt give us anything but backwards thinking like this. whats next? the united stats makes blasphemy illegal?
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#279 MrPraline
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[QUOTE="MrPraline"][QUOTE="twilightpanda"]don't associate myself with you lol :Ptwilightpanda
hahaha Easy now. :P

i was joking :P i was'nt serious about that :P

I know, me too. :P
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#280 twilightpanda
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[QUOTE="chessmaster1989"]Aww, no hawt panda on preacher action here, then... :(MrPraline
I wouldn't count it out yet. It's still early, right panda? :P

yup i'm not even 18 yet ahahaha :lol:
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#281 battlefront23
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[QUOTE="battlefront23"][QUOTE="uberbra"]

screw the bible, its caused more harm than good.

Locke562
Where do I even begin... :roll:

How about at the beginning?

It has single-handedly changed the world for the good, and the only bad that it "caused" were by men who clearly used the Bible for manipulation only, not for evangelism. All of the bad events that have happened due to a "Christian" war, or murder, etc. were Christian only in name. People can claim to be many things...
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After repeatedly doing a sin, the guilt starts to wear thin. Or become almost non-existent in some cases. Like mine. :(battlefront23

Or maybe it's not actually bad thing to have sexual attractions! :o But we feel guilty because those around us tell us to. Again, just saying. :P

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[QUOTE="twilightpanda"][QUOTE="MrPraline"] hahaha Easy now. :PMrPraline
i was joking :P i was'nt serious about that :P

I know, me too. :P

And... er... *cough*... I wasn't serious about thinking preacher on panda action would be hawt... :oops:

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#284 uberbra
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[QUOTE="uberbra"]

screw the bible, its caused more harm than good.

battlefront23
Where do I even begin... :roll:

ok i take that back, but seriously, all that traditionalist religious crap is holding us back. why the hell study the bible when you can go to church in sunday school and learn it? Waste of time for kids if you ask me, especially with educational funding cutbacks across the board in this economy, we dont need our schools to provide what we can already get aplenty. My god do i hate the south...

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[QUOTE="Locke562"][QUOTE="battlefront23"] Where do I even begin... :roll:battlefront23
How about at the beginning?

It has single-handedly changed the world for the good, and the only bad that it "caused" were by men who clearly used the Bible for manipulation only, not for evangelism. All of the bad events that have happened due to a "Christian" war, or murder, etc. were Christian only in name. People can claim to be many things...

It tends to help your argument if you explain how. :|

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[QUOTE="battlefront23"]After repeatedly doing a sin, the guilt starts to wear thin. Or become almost non-existent in some cases. Like mine. :(Dark_Knight6

Or maybe it's not actually bad thing to have sexual attractions! :o But we feel guilty because those around us tell us to. Again, just saying. :P

It isn't bad. But it is bad to act on it or dwell on it.
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[QUOTE="MrPraline"][QUOTE="twilightpanda"] i was joking :P i was'nt serious about that :Pchessmaster1989

I know, me too. :P

And... er... *cough*... I wasn't serious about thinking preacher on panda action would be hawt... :oops:

hurrr calm down clint your heart could blow up with all that hawtness :P
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[QUOTE="MrPraline"][QUOTE="twilightpanda"] i was joking :P i was'nt serious about that :Pchessmaster1989

I know, me too. :P

And... er... *cough*... I wasn't serious about thinking preacher on panda action would be hawt... :oops:

I just got modded for only posting a facepalm pic on the first page of this thread. =/ Did you get modded as well? >__>
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And... er... *cough*... I wasn't serious about thinking preacher on panda action would be hawt... :oops:

chessmaster1989

It's okay, we all have our turn-ons. Some...much weirder than others but we still have them. :P

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[QUOTE="battlefront23"]After repeatedly doing a sin, the guilt starts to wear thin. Or become almost non-existent in some cases. Like mine. :(Dark_Knight6

Or maybe it's not actually bad thing to have sexual attractions! :o But we feel guilty because those around us tell us to. Again, just saying. :P

Biblically, lust is just as bad as any other sin. But desensitization never surprises me. It's not just that repeated exposure makes you feel something is normal - it's also very difficult to live your entire life feeling badly about so much of what you do. People get fed up with that constant state of remorse, and desensitization becomes a defense mechanism against it.

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#291 twilightpanda
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[QUOTE="MrPraline"][QUOTE="chessmaster1989"]

I know, me too. :PMrPraline

And... er... *cough*... I wasn't serious about thinking preacher on panda action would be hawt... :oops:

I just got modded for only posting a facepalm pic on the first page of this thread. =/ Did you get modded as well? >__>

ahahaha are you serious? this website is no fun anymore :(
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[QUOTE="chessmaster1989"]

[QUOTE="MrPraline"] I know, me too. :PMrPraline

And... er... *cough*... I wasn't serious about thinking preacher on panda action would be hawt... :oops:

I just got modded for only posting a facepalm pic on the first page of this thread. =/ Did you get modded as well? >__>

Indeed I did. >_>

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It isn't bad. But it is bad to act on it or dwell on it.battlefront23

Yeah, when I said "maybe it's not actually bad," I meant the act too. :P

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[QUOTE="battlefront23"]It isn't bad. But it is bad to act on it or dwell on it.Dark_Knight6

Yeah, when I said "maybe it's not actually bad," I meant the act too. :P

who cares do whatever you want!!!! lol :P
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[QUOTE="battlefront23"][QUOTE="Locke562"] How about at the beginning?chessmaster1989

It has single-handedly changed the world for the good, and the only bad that it "caused" were by men who clearly used the Bible for manipulation only, not for evangelism. All of the bad events that have happened due to a "Christian" war, or murder, etc. were Christian only in name. People can claim to be many things...

It tends to help your argument if you explain how. :|

Jesus' teachings. John 8: 3-8:

3-6The religion scholars and Pharisees led in a woman who had been caught in an act of adultery. They stood her in plain sight of everyone and said, "Teacher, this woman was caught red-handed in the act of adultery. Moses, in the Law, gives orders to stone such persons. What do you say?" They were trying to trap him into saying something incriminating so they could bring charges against him.

6-8Jesus bent down and wrote with his finger in the dirt. They kept at him, badgering him. He straightened up and said, "The sinless one among you, go first: Throw the stone." Bending down again, he wrote some more in the dirt.

9-10Hearing that, they walked away, one after another, beginning with the oldest. The woman was left alone. Jesus stood up and spoke to her. "Woman, where are they? Does no one condemn you?"

11"No one, Master." "Neither do I," said Jesus. "Go on your way. From now on, don't sin."

Pretty extraordinary if you ask me. This is one example among many.

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And... er... *cough*... I wasn't serious about thinking preacher on panda action would be hawt... :oops:

chessmaster1989

:lol:

That's an... unusual fetish.

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#297 ps3wizard45
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Forget the bible! SCREW BOOKS IN GENERAL! :x

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[QUOTE="MrPraline"][QUOTE="chessmaster1989"]

And... er... *cough*... I wasn't serious about thinking preacher on panda action would be hawt... :oops:

chessmaster1989

I just got modded for only posting a facepalm pic on the first page of this thread. =/ Did you get modded as well? >__>

Indeed I did. >_>

That sucks.
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#299 pianist
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Forget the bible! SCREW BOOKS IN GENERAL! :x

ps3wizard45

Yeah!! Let's go burn down the library so this never happens again!

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#300 battlefront23
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[QUOTE="ps3wizard45"]

Forget the bible! SCREW BOOKS IN GENERAL! :x

pianist

Yeah!! Let's go burn down the library so this never happens again!

Fahrenheit 451!