Texas public schools required to teach Bible this year

[QUOTE="Teenaged"]

Nope, I said that its influence is minimal compared to active religions, due to the fact that officially its a part of the distant past.

(influence as in numbers and organising)

LJS9502_basic

When though teaching the Bible inevitably, because its a "living" thing and present (not to mention that the teachers will be pastors or people who are Christians no doubt), it will become more of a theological cIass something which fits perfectly in religious studies only.

On the other hand, dodekatheism is so scarce that I doubt that it concerns anyone.

The line between dead religions andactive ones is clear and what place they have.

Didn't click on the link, but is it being taught in Science class, or is it being taught in a Literature or Sociology class. I think people should have at least a very basic knowledge of the world's major religions, but if any one of them is being taught as fact there is a problem. If you teach, civil suits will come.

gamer_10001

I'd assume it was being taught in a Literature/elective course...

Anyway your justification for mythology was this....[QUOTE="Teenaged"]

Thats why I emphasised that those texts (Greek/Roam literature and the other things I recommened) are not used today anymore as such - that is as religious texts. They are used and studied solely about this: their historical and literary value.LJS9502_basic

What is wrong with that?

[QUOTE="gamer_10001"]

Didn't click on the link, but is it being taught in Science class, or is it being taught in a Literature or Sociology class. I think people should have at least a very basic knowledge of the world's major religions, but if any one of them is being taught as fact there is a problem. If you teach, civil suits will come.

chessmaster1989

I'd assume it was being taught in a Literature/elective course...

The texts are never taught as something that occurs now. The emphasis is on their literary and historical value.

When though teaching the Bible inevitably, because its a "living" thing and present (not to mention that the teachers will be pastors or people who are Christians no doubt), it will become more of a theological cIass something which fits perfectly in religious studies only.

On the other hand, dodekatheism is so scarce that I doubt that it concerns anyone.

The line between dead religions andactive ones is clear and what place they have.

Teenaged

The Bible is only a "living" thing and present if one believes it to be. Pastors don't teach in public schools and Christianity is not taught in public schools.

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]

Anyway your justification for mythology was this....[QUOTE="Teenaged"]

Thats why I emphasised that those texts (Greek/Roam literature and the other things I recommened) are not used today anymore as such - that is as religious texts. They are used and studied solely about this: their historical and literary value.Teenaged

What is wrong with that?

[QUOTE="Teenaged"]

The texts are never taught as something that occurs now. The emphasis is on their literary and historical value.

When though teaching the Bible inevitably, because its a "living" thing and present (not to mention that the teachers will be pastors or people who are Christians no doubt), it will become more of a theological cIass something which fits perfectly in religious studies only.

On the other hand, dodekatheism is so scarce that I doubt that it concerns anyone.

The line between dead religions andactive ones is clear and what place they have.

LJS9502_basic

The Bible is only a "living" thing and present if one believes it to be. Pastors don't teach in public schools and Christianity is not taught in public schools.

On the worst of occassions (for my argumentation) neither of us can know how it will be used. Therefore neither of us has proof (I never claimed I have, I just tried to establish why my fears have a logic behind them).

Like you I wish it is indeed treated the same but I doubt it and I explained why my doubts are reasonable.

I copied the wrong post.:P I take exception to your comment that they are dead religions and thus it's okay to teach. If one isn't to teach religion than that should be all religions.

LJS9502_basic

But like I showed I never said that dead religions dont respawn. I know that first-hand with dodekatheism >_>.

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]

[QUOTE="Teenaged"]

The texts are never taught as something that occurs now. The emphasis is on their literary and historical value.

When though teaching the Bible inevitably, because its a "living" thing and present (not to mention that the teachers will be pastors or people who are Christians no doubt), it will become more of a theological cIass something which fits perfectly in religious studies only.

On the other hand, dodekatheism is so scarce that I doubt that it concerns anyone.

The line between dead religions andactive ones is clear and what place they have.

Teenaged

The Bible is only a "living" thing and present if one believes it to be. Pastors don't teach in public schools and Christianity is not taught in public schools.

On the worst of occassions (for my argumentation) neither of us can know how it will be used. Therefore neither of us has proof (I never claimed I have, I just tried to establish why my fears have a logic behind them).

Like you I wish it is indeed treated the same but I doubt it and I explained why my doubts are reasonable.

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]

I copied the wrong post.:P I take exception to your comment that they are dead religions and thus it's okay to teach. If one isn't to teach religion than that should be all religions.

Teenaged

But like I showed I never said that dead religions dont respawn. I know that first-hand with dodekatheism >_>.

I live in the US. We don't teach religion in public schools. So yeah I expect it WILL be treated the same.;)

LJS9502_basic

Is it (GREEN) therefore (RED) or something else? Because it doesnt follow...

Are you guys stupid? It's being offered as an elective.

[QUOTE="Teenaged"]

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]

I copied the wrong post.:P I take exception to your comment that they are dead religions and thus it's okay to teach. If one isn't to teach religion than that should be all religions.

LJS9502_basic

But like I showed I never said that dead religions dont respawn. I know that first-hand with dodekatheism >_>.

Do I have to restate that huge-ass post of mine again? /:

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]

I live in the US. We don't teach religion in public schools. So yeah I expect it WILL be treated the same.;)

Teenaged

Is it (GREEN) therefore (RED) or something else? Because it doesnt follow...

Bible Class? Wrong. They should just make a class called "Religious Texts" and offer it as an optional class.

It's Texas, the entire place is backwards. I'm personally not surprised that this is being taught, but what of our Constitution?

Are you guys stupid? It's being offered as an elective.

MarkSmith

ANY dead religion. The dead ones not the currently active ones; but the ones lost in time.... millenia ago....

Do I have to restate that huge-ass post of mine again? /:

Teenaged

Are you guys stupid? It's being offered as an elective.

MarkSmith

You know that very well: today its elective, tomorrow its made mandatory! :evil:

:P

Anyway if that is the case (I hadnt noticed) all this hassle could have been avoided if someone had corrected my very first post where I explicitely stated that I dont like this if it is mandatory!!!!

The Bible is the most influential piece of literature ever written. Arguing that it shouldn't be discussed in literature class is like arguing that they shouldn't teach the Pythagorean Theorem in geometry.

[QUOTE="MarkSmith"]

Are you guys stupid? It's being offered as an elective.

ScreaminPatriot

[QUOTE="Teenaged"]

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]

I live in the US. We don't teach religion in public schools. So yeah I expect it WILL be treated the same.;)

LJS9502_basic

Is it (GREEN) therefore (RED) or something else? Because it doesnt follow...

I feel like I have wasted these 2 hours. :'(

[QUOTE="dundermuffin666"]

If there offereing it as literature that's fine, but in order to be fair they should also have the Torah and the Quaran(sorry if i spelled it wrong)

LJS9502_basic

Yeah well read my last post. So much time talking for nothing.... :x >____________>

I feel like I have wasted these 2 hours. :'(

Teenaged

[QUOTE="Teenaged"]

Yeah well read my last post. So much time talking for nothing.... :x >____________>

I feel like I have wasted these 2 hours. :'(

LJS9502_basic

The Bible is the most influential piece of literature ever written. Arguing that it shouldn't be discussed in literature class is like arguing that they shouldn't teach the Pythagorean Theorem in geometry.

MarkSmith

It may be influential, but our Constitution explicitly states that religion must stay separate from the state, and that includes federal, state, and local governments. I may be a loose constuctionist, but this is an extremely important part of the document's 'tyranny of the majority' protections.

[Huh?

Teenaged

texas=ftl

Anyway, bottomline: I had thought it was a mandatory cIass. As in, I thought the Literature cIass was mandtory and that the Bible would be incorporated in it.

But it would save us a lot of posts, had someone corrected me in my very first post where I said I dont like it if its mandatory.

Although, its still not sitting well with me, I object it if its elective, half as much as I do if it would be mandatory. So yeah more or less.

[QUOTE="Teenaged"]

[Huh?

LJS9502_basic

Now it makes sense.

I don't see what the problem is on teaching people LITERATURE of the bible. Nobody's forcing their beliefs into anyone, just like when they taught us about Greek Mythology. cyberdarkkid

[QUOTE="cyberdarkkid"]I don't see what the problem is on teaching people LITERATURE of the bible. Nobody's forcing their beliefs into anyone, just like when they taught us about Greek Mythology. LJS9502_basic

Good night... >_______________>

This is wrong and unconstitutional. What ever happend to the separation of church and state?

cooler890

Why? I love it! :o

Good night... >_______________>

Teenaged

[QUOTE="cyberdarkkid"]I don't see what the problem is on teaching people LITERATURE of the bible. Nobody's forcing their beliefs into anyone, just like when they taught us about Greek Mythology. LJS9502_basic

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]

[QUOTE="cyberdarkkid"]I don't see what the problem is on teaching people LITERATURE of the bible. Nobody's forcing their beliefs into anyone, just like when they taught us about Greek Mythology. cyberdarkkid

[QUOTE="cyberdarkkid"][QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]Nooo....don't bring up Greek mythology when Teenaged's around.:o

Teenaged

If it's forced onto the students, then nay. What they want to study in school should be their choice. We don;t force students to learn science, why should we force the bible on them?

[QUOTE="xaos"][QUOTE="cooler890"]

This is wrong and unconstitutional. What ever happend to the separation of church and state?

cooler890

[QUOTE="Teenaged"]

[QUOTE="cyberdarkkid"] Oh my bad, I forgot >_>cyberdarkkid

But you see the reason why LJS told you not to mention Greek mythology is different.

(although I dont see why Greek mythology mustnt be mentioned in my presence.... /: )

If it's forced onto the students, then nay. What they want to study in school should be their choice. We don;t force students to learn science, why should we force the bible on them?

skelebull3000

[QUOTE="skelebull3000"]

If it's forced onto the students, then nay. What they want to study in school should be their choice. We don;t force students to learn science, why should we force the bible on them?

LJS9502_basic

I'm talking about high school. At least in Europe it isn't a required subject in high school >_>

Can't we just wall off texas or something so that we don't have to deal with their filth. I swear people from there must have a permanent electrical fire in their heads.

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="skelebull3000"]

If it's forced onto the students, then nay. What they want to study in school should be their choice. We don;t force students to learn science, why should we force the bible on them?

skelebull3000

I'm talking about high school. At least in Europe it isn't a required subject in high school >_>

[QUOTE="pianist"]

[QUOTE="escapeoftheape"]they dont even give the poor children a chance to choose themselves.. they literally brainwash them into thinking that god is real. id never send my kids to a texas school.weezyfb

The "children?" Sheesh... we're talking about high school-aged people here. People at that age are entirely capable of making their own decisions about religion and deciding if they want to take an elective cIass that focuses on the Bible.

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="skelebull3000"]

If it's forced onto the students, then nay. What they want to study in school should be their choice. We don;t force students to learn science, why should we force the bible on them?

skelebull3000

I'm talking about high school. At least in Europe it isn't a required subject in high school >_>