Smoking should be banned in public completely ?

[QUOTE="DavidianMH"] I've never heard of anyone dying from passive-smoking :? And you know it takes hundreds of thousands of cigs to kill someone right?Zensword

Now you do.

"We now know that 53,800 people die every year from secondhand smoke exposure. This number is based on the midpoint numbers for heart disease deaths (48,500), lung cancer deaths (3,000), and SIDS deaths (2,300) as calculated in the 1997 California EPA Report on Secondhand Smoke."

www.no-smoke.org/getthefacts.php?id=13

Thanks for the link! :D
Someone very close died, and it was related to smoking. So, I kinda been there.

[QUOTE="Zensword"]

[QUOTE="DavidianMH"] I've never heard of anyone dying from passive-smoking :? And you know it takes hundreds of thousands of cigs to kill someone right?yourmajesty90

Now you do.

"We now know that 53,800 people die every year from secondhand smoke exposure. This number is based on the midpoint numbers for heart disease deaths (48,500), lung cancer deaths (3,000), and SIDS deaths (2,300) as calculated in the 1997 California EPA Report on Secondhand Smoke."

www.no-smoke.org/getthefacts.php?id=13

Thanks for the link! :D
Someone very close died, and it was related to smoking. So, I kinda been there.

[QUOTE="Zensword"]

[QUOTE="DavidianMH"] I've never heard of anyone dying from passive-smoking :? And you know it takes hundreds of thousands of cigs to kill someone right?yourmajesty90

Now you do.

"We now know that 53,800 people die every year from secondhand smoke exposure. This number is based on the midpoint numbers for heart disease deaths (48,500), lung cancer deaths (3,000), and SIDS deaths (2,300) as calculated in the 1997 California EPA Report on Secondhand Smoke."

www.no-smoke.org/getthefacts.php?id=13

Thanks for the link! :D
Someone very close died, and it was related to smoking. So, I kinda been there.

Sad for your loss, my grandmother smoked 2 packs a day for 60 years and didnt die of a smoking related illness.

different strokes i suppose.

But that website actually has no credible information, they dont even link the studies these claims are based off of.... would get marked down in a term paper.

Sad for your loss, my grandmother smoked 2 packs a day for 60 years and didnt die of a smoking related illness.

different strokes i suppose.

But that website actually has no credible information, they dont even link the studies these claims are based off of.... would get marked down in a term paper.

SoBaus

1. Your grandmother smokes 2 packs a day for 60 years and didnt die of smoking related illness. ?

That's BS.

2. You're funny. You say that website has no credible and yet you claimd 2nd hand smoke doesn't cause cancerdespite a ton of studies say otherwise.

2nd hand smoke doesnt actually cause cancer or anything like that... beyond the scenarios you talked about of non smokers living with smokers... but i actually havent seen any studies that reliably support that theory.

SoBaus

[QUOTE="SoBaus"]

[QUOTE="yourmajesty90"]

Sad for your loss, my grandmother smoked 2 packs a day for 60 years and didnt die of a smoking related illness.

different strokes i suppose.

But that website actually has no credible information, they dont even link the studies these claims are based off of.... would get marked down in a term paper.

Zensword

1. Your grandmother smokes 2 packs a day for 60 years and didnt die of smoking related illness. ?

That's BS.

2. You're funny. You say that website has no credible and yet you claimd 2nd hand smoke doesn't cause cancerdespite a ton of studies say otherwise.

2nd hand smoke doesnt actually cause cancer or anything like that... beyond the scenarios you talked about of non smokers living with smokers... but i actually havent seen any studies that reliably support that theory.

SoBaus

well she died of gall bladder cancer, which is technically a smoking related illness... but thats merely because everything is a smoking related illness. But its also a breathing related illness and an eating related illness. Either way... no lung cancer which is supposedly what smoking causes. Heart disease is becoming more and more common as smoking becomes less common... but heart disease is a smoking related illness.

I believe the amount of smokers that die from smoking is around 1/3rd...

and as the amount of smokers have declined... the rate of lung cancer in non smokers is sharply inclining. So less smokers = more lung cancer in non smokers.

have to wonder how things like heart disease and lung cancer can become more common.... as smoking becomes less common. It almost suggests that maybe, they have nothing to do with smokers.

The reason heart disease and lung cancer rates are on the rise... is because people eat crappy food and breathe in pollution. Smoking has nothing to do with it... or they would be declining along with smoking.

No.

Because thats where I smoke.

Smoking needs to be banned entirely. I read somewhere--probably on this forum--that second hand smoke in any quantity is harmful. Since the human species is currently limited to one planet, therefore smoking anywhere on Earth harms me. So everyone must stop smoking.

[QUOTE="yourmajesty90"]

[QUOTE="Zensword"]

Now you do.

"We now know that 53,800 people die every year from secondhand smoke exposure. This number is based on the midpoint numbers for heart disease deaths (48,500), lung cancer deaths (3,000), and SIDS deaths (2,300) as calculated in the 1997 California EPA Report on Secondhand Smoke."

www.no-smoke.org/getthefacts.php?id=13

FrostyPhantasm

Thanks for the link! :D
Someone very close died, and it was related to smoking. So, I kinda been there.

Tell me the difference between second hand smoking and passive smoking? As far as i know it's exactly the same...

Basides that, people here are just ignoring the facts.

Fact: Second hand/passive smoking can cause cancer.
Fact: Second hand smoking only poses a danger to one's health if the exposure is repeated a high amount of times a week over a period of years and mostly in closed spaces.
Fact: Statistics about death's of second hand smoking are often compromised because it doesn't account for people who quit smoking themselves but still enjoy the company of their smoking friends.

It needs to be banned period.

This. :P

Smoking needs to be banned entirely. I read somewhere--probably on this forum--that second hand smoke in any quantity is harmful. Since the human species is currently limited to one planet, therefore smoking anywhere on Earth harms me. So everyone must stop smoking.

Palantas

"We now know that 53,800 people die every year from secondhand smoke exposure.Zensword

[QUOTE="Zensword"]"We now know that 53,800 people die every year from secondhand smoke exposure.tofu-lion91

I'd like to how much of those 53.800 people used to smoke but quit smoking while remaining in the same 'smoking' environment.
Considering quite a bit of smokers have close friends who smoke or used to smoke.

[QUOTE="I"]

Smoking needs to be banned entirely. I read somewhere--probably on this forum--that second hand smoke in any quantity is harmful. Since the human species is currently limited to one planet, therefore smoking anywhere on Earth harms me. So everyone must stop smoking.

OmniGo0se

I Think I'm going to go smoke a cigarette just in your honor right now...

ZOMGS!! Stop killing me!

Yeah, although they should be allowed to smoke somwhere, since that would be unfair to them.

Umm, definitely no where indoors. If theyre outside, I really dont have much of a problem with it

It depends on there area in which it is being done. I walk home from school, and no duh you can't smoke on school grounds. So all the smokers gather no joke like 1 centimeter away from the school zone and smoke, and I have to walk past it everyday. I actually hold my breath when i walk past because I actually can't breath when I inhale the smoke. Areas like that, yeah it should be banned, others, you can't reall wipe it out completely I guess

Banning smoking outside? So when do the death camps open?

yes, for my sake, smoking should be banned all over in the world.

there are many of us who gets ill from second hand smoking.

yes, for my sake, smoking should be banned all over in the world.

there are many of us who gets ill from second hand smoking.

freanster

[QUOTE="freanster"]

yes, for my sake, smoking should be banned all over in the world.

there are many of us who gets ill from second hand smoking.

Nibroc420

[QUOTE="Nibroc420"][QUOTE="freanster"]

yes, for my sake, smoking should be banned all over in the world.

there are many of us who gets ill from second hand smoking.

OmniGo0se

[QUOTE="freanster"]

yes, for my sake, smoking should be banned all over in the world.

there are many of us who gets ill from second hand smoking.

Nibroc420

Funny, I'm a smoker and I consider myself far more considerate than many other people. Personally I only smoke when I'm at home, and even then it's only outside. Unfortunately others are not so considerate. I have to deal with heavily perfumed (which gives me headaches) people all the time.

The anti-smoking campaigns have really done their jobs. We might as well kill off that fifth of our population based off of how some people here are talking. Mass genocide is the lesser sin...hensothor

[QUOTE="OmniGo0se"][QUOTE="Nibroc420"] So when you crave a smoke, you smoke, you "get your fix" :|LJS9502_basic

Did you miss the glaringly obvious sarcasm in that post?

Did you miss the glaringly obvious sarcasm in that post?

worlock77

[QUOTE="worlock77"]

Did you miss the glaringly obvious sarcasm in that post?

LJS9502_basic

Whatever you say.

Very nice of you. But will this thread really change it all?

[QUOTE="worlock77"]

Did you miss the glaringly obvious sarcasm in that post?

LJS9502_basic