Smoking should be banned in public completely ?

No, if you cant handle it and are scared of someone else smoking a cigarette as you walk past them, avoid them, cross the road or something jeez, buncha whinersmaccer101

[QUOTE="maccer101"]No, if you cant handle it and are scared of someone else smoking a cigarette as you walk past them, avoid them, cross the road or something jeez, buncha whinersGrodus5

[QUOTE="sonicare"][QUOTE="SoBaus"]

In a public setting a crying baby is harder to get away from than a smoker. Lets make babies illegal, amirite? A smoker is the easiest of all public nuisances to avoid.

SoBaus

99% of smokers are more respectful than people could imagine, its the non smokers that are indignant and intolerant d-bags.

Smokers try to keep to themselves, similiar to someone listening to their ipod with earbuds, but these narcissistic self-righteous a-holes always comes up and say crap like "you know thats bad for your health" or pretend to cough... and you just want to crush their skull.... so badly. But unlike them us smokers are actually decent people so we freaking apologize and try to move away from these d-bags.

Yes, smokers tend to be quite a bit more tolerant than non-smokers. I'm pretty sure that this is backed by inquiries, which is a interesting counter argument against the anti-social argument of others.

Besides that even the second hand smoking issue is overly dramatized and the majority of the non-smokers knows nothing about second hand smoking while most smokers do.

It is a fact that second hand smoking only poses health problems if it happens for years, happens at least a few times a week and it has to be in a quite severe situation. (multiple smokers and closed in space).

Furtheremore many research data about second hand smoking is compromized due to studies not taking in account people who used to smoke and quit.
For example a couple where the womon quits smoking and the man continue's to smoke, the women dies of smoking and second hand smoking is blamed.

[QUOTE="SoBaus"]

99% of smokers are more respectful than people could imagine, its the non smokers that are indignant and intolerant d-bags.

Smokers try to keep to themselves, similiar to someone listening to their ipod with earbuds, but these narcissistic self-righteous a-holes always comes up and say crap like "you know thats bad for your health" or pretend to cough... and you just want to crush their skull.... so badly. But unlike them us smokers are actually decent people so we freaking apologize and try to move away from these d-bags.

scouttrooperbob

Do people really do that? Like you can emediatly quit smoking. I Dont smoke but I have some family members who use tobaco products and they know they are bad. Many of them have tryed to stop but have failed, But they defenantly try to limit expsosure to people by smoking out side or away from people ETC...

Of course they really do that. And even when vaporizers for tobacco come out like e-cigarettes the natural reaction of anti tobacco lobbyists and anti smoking bigots in general is "we have to make this illegal"

A device that makes quitting smoking easier needs to be made illegal... because it resembles smoking. Anti smokers are the dumbest, most intolerant people on the planet... and they are rude as hell. If im trying to have a smoke away from people, they will walk up to me and make asanine comments from their moral highground when i just want to be left alone.

Im telling you its maddening.

[QUOTE="scouttrooperbob"]

[QUOTE="SoBaus"]

99% of smokers are more respectful than people could imagine, its the non smokers that are indignant and intolerant d-bags.

Smokers try to keep to themselves, similiar to someone listening to their ipod with earbuds, but these narcissistic self-righteous a-holes always comes up and say crap like "you know thats bad for your health" or pretend to cough... and you just want to crush their skull.... so badly. But unlike them us smokers are actually decent people so we freaking apologize and try to move away from these d-bags.

SoBaus

Do people really do that? Like you can emediatly quit smoking. I Dont smoke but I have some family members who use tobaco products and they know they are bad. Many of them have tryed to stop but have failed, But they defenantly try to limit expsosure to people by smoking out side or away from people ETC...

Of course they really do that. And even when vaporizers for tobacco come out like e-cigarettes the natural reaction of anti tobacco lobbyists and anti smoking bigots in general is "we have to make this illegal"

A device that makes quitting smoking easier needs to be made illegal... because it resembles smoking. Anti smokers are the dumbest, most intolerant people on the planet... and they are rude as hell. If im trying to have a smoke away from people, they will walk up to me and make asanine comments from their moral highground when i just want to be left alone.

Im telling you its maddening.

I normally take the position that people can do whatever they choose with their body. But when their actions negatively affect the lives of other people who don't wish to harm their body, there's no argument for me. Yes, it should be banned in all public places.Maniacc1

I wish they would ban cigarettes outright. I'm a smoker.BrianB0422

[QUOTE="BrianB0422"]I wish they would ban cigarettes outright. I'm a smoker.DavidianMH

[QUOTE="DavidianMH"][QUOTE="BrianB0422"]I wish they would ban cigarettes outright. I'm a smoker.YellowOneKinobi

lol what is wrong with you people? Im sure there is enough air to go around for everyone.

well considering that just a abit of 2nd hand smoke can cause asthma attacks in some people is just one reason i think it should be banned,

not to mention it smells like crap and isnt nice to breathe in,

IMO smoking should be banned completely as its just one thing that humanity doesnt need and has no benefits

sonofsmeagle

Using that logic perfumes should be banned as well.

lol what is wrong with you people? Im sure there is enough air to go around for everyone.

Morphic

Most posters here in OT are quite reasonable in virtually every thread that involves rights of others, with the exception of smokers rights. This thread is proof that government propaganda can really affect the minds of even the most reasonable people if given enough time and effort into letting us believe the "second hand smoke menace".

rather bann it from parents smoking in front of children, they can smoke it all they want as long as it isn't in my face. I got ASTHMA because they smoked at home. So i am very against itThe_Last_Ride

Pretty bold claim... i believe the cause of asthma is largely genetic. Is it possible you are are choosing smoking as a scapegoat?

[QUOTE="BrianB0422"]I wish they would ban cigarettes outright. I'm a smoker.DavidianMH

[QUOTE="DavidianMH"][QUOTE="BrianB0422"]I wish they would ban cigarettes outright. I'm a smoker.BrianB0422

It should be prohibited. I don't like breathing the toxic cancer other people choose to smoke.

[QUOTE="DavidianMH"][QUOTE="BrianB0422"]I wish they would ban cigarettes outright. I'm a smoker.BrianB0422

meh, why quit? just smoke 1 or 2 a day for that delicious nicotine buzz.

Are they like lay's potato chips where you cant have just 1? Ive personally never felt addicted to smoking i guess. I have gone weeks wihout smoking just because i dont feel like it.

It should be prohibited. I don't like breathing the toxic cancer other people choose to smoke.

SouL-Tak3R

But you don't mind breathing all the other toxic s*** in the air?

It should be prohibited. I don't like breathing the toxic cancer other people choose to smoke.

SouL-Tak3R

not a fan of breathing in the toxic cancer because other people dont carpool.

live and let live.

[QUOTE="SouL-Tak3R"]

It should be prohibited. I don't like breathing the toxic cancer other people choose to smoke.

worlock77

But you don't mind breathing all the other toxic s*** in the air?

[QUOTE="worlock77"]

[QUOTE="SouL-Tak3R"]

It should be prohibited. I don't like breathing the toxic cancer other people choose to smoke.

Nibroc420

But you don't mind breathing all the other toxic s*** in the air?

Again, how in the blue f*** do you get that from my statement?

[QUOTE="Nibroc420"][QUOTE="worlock77"]

But you don't mind breathing all the other toxic s*** in the air?

worlock77

Again, how in the blue f*** do you get that from my statement?

[QUOTE="worlock77"]

[QUOTE="SouL-Tak3R"]

It should be prohibited. I don't like breathing the toxic cancer other people choose to smoke.

Nibroc420

But you don't mind breathing all the other toxic s*** in the air?

How bout posting on the internet...? racking up the kilowatts there arent ya using your PC for selfish enjoyment? You better not be using incandescent light bulbs.... electricity consumption = pollution.

[QUOTE="Nibroc420"][QUOTE="worlock77"]

But you don't mind breathing all the other toxic s*** in the air?

SoBaus

How bout posting on the internet...? racking up the kilowatts there arent ya using your PC for selfish enjoyment? You better not be using incandescent light bulbs.... electricity consumption = pollution.

[QUOTE="SoBaus"]

[QUOTE="Nibroc420"] Again, some things are necessary. Unless again you're suggesting smoking is equally as important as transporting food?Nibroc420

How bout posting on the internet...? racking up the kilowatts there arent ya using your PC for selfish enjoyment? You better not be using incandescent light bulbs.... electricity consumption = pollution.

So you are self sufficient on the grid with solar and wind energy? grats... but i dont think you are...

PS where do you think the majority of US energy comes from... ill give you a hint, its not solar.

how dare you kill my lungs with your wanton PC usage purely for entertainment... so selfish.

I wish it could. People die from passive smoking, as the smoke that comes out is unfiltered therefore more harmful. Besides, it's really annoying when you've got a sore throat and have to cough.

[QUOTE="wiifan001"]Cigarettes and all tobacco in general should be banned. Period.DarkLink77

Uh huh,people have the right to smoke marijuana, heroine and cocain. :D

[QUOTE="Nibroc420"][QUOTE="SoBaus"]

How bout posting on the internet...? racking up the kilowatts there arent ya using your PC for selfish enjoyment? You better not be using incandescent light bulbs.... electricity consumption = pollution.

SoBaus

So you are self sufficient on the grid with solar and wind energy? grats... but i dont think you are...

PS where do you think the majority of US energy comes from... ill give you a hint, its not solar.

I wish it could. People die from passive smoking, as the smoke that comes out is unfiltered therefore more harmful. Besides, it's really annoying when you've got a sore throat and have to cough.

yourmajesty90

[QUOTE="SoBaus"]

[QUOTE="Nibroc420"] Only if i'm using coal to create the electricity.Nibroc420

So you are self sufficient on the grid with solar and wind energy? grats... but i dont think you are...

PS where do you think the majority of US energy comes from... ill give you a hint, its not solar.

doesnt matter, no country is even close to sustaining their energy needs on renewable energy.

And think of all the huge US servers that need to be in place just to make these forums possible.... by posting here you are supporting these pollution factories.... shameful, good sir.

[QUOTE="worlock77"]

[QUOTE="Nibroc420"] Again, some things are necessary. Unless again you're suggesting smoking is equally as important as transporting food?Nibroc420

Again, how in the blue f*** do you get that from my statement?

And yet you have not explained how you take "cigarettes are just as important as food" from my comment. I would say what I think you're really doing, but that would probably result in yet another moderation for me, so I'll hold back.

Yes, it's necessary to get goods from Point A to Point B. Doing so while releasing tons of toxic pollutants into the air is not necessary however. We could severely curtail our emmissions if we had the will do do so. No one does however, since that might inconvenience them. Instead people would rather hysterically b**** about the occaisional whiff of cigarette smoke while ignoring the proverbal elephant in the room.

[QUOTE="yourmajesty90"]

I wish it could. People die from passive smoking, as the smoke that comes out is unfiltered therefore more harmful. Besides, it's really annoying when you've got a sore throat and have to cough.

8-Bitterness

Ok, calm down. Passive smoking is actually a big deal. You don't know how the body reacts to it. It could be 10 whiffs, 20, 30 or even 1 that will have a negative reaction on a cell in your body and a cancer starts.

[QUOTE="yourmajesty90"]

I wish it could. People die from passive smoking, as the smoke that comes out is unfiltered therefore more harmful. Besides, it's really annoying when you've got a sore throat and have to cough.

8-Bitterness

ahh yes the old 2nd hand smoke is more deadly than first hand (yes people, these F'n anti smoking groups actually say this crap).... lol dunno how i missed that one (good catch though).

If someone cant figure out that, that claim is pure lobbyist BS... i weep for their basic reasoning abilities.

[QUOTE="Nibroc420"][QUOTE="SoBaus"]

So you are self sufficient on the grid with solar and wind energy? grats... but i dont think you are...

PS where do you think the majority of US energy comes from... ill give you a hint, its not solar.

SoBaus

doesnt matter, no country is even close to sustaining their energy needs on renewable energy.

And think of all the huge US servers that need to be in place just to make these forums possible.... by posting here you are supporting these pollution factories.... shameful, good sir.

[QUOTE="SoBaus"]

[QUOTE="Nibroc420"] I'll give you a hint: Not everyone in the world is from the US. ;)Nibroc420

doesnt matter, no country is even close to sustaining their energy needs on renewable energy.

And think of all the huge US servers that need to be in place just to make these forums possible.... by posting here you are supporting these pollution factories.... shameful, good sir.

I assure you, my logic is never flawed.

If nobody posted on the gamespot forums, the servers wouldnt exist... the more people that post... the more servers necessary to facilitate the load. So by being one of the masses, you are essentially throwing coal dust into a newborn baby's lungs, good sir.

[QUOTE="8-Bitterness"][QUOTE="yourmajesty90"]

I wish it could. People die from passive smoking, as the smoke that comes out is unfiltered therefore more harmful. Besides, it's really annoying when you've got a sore throat and have to cough.

yourmajesty90

Ok, calm down. Passive smoking is actually a big deal. You don't know how the body reacts to it. It could be 10 whiffs, 20, 30 or even 1 that will have a negative reaction on a cell in your body and a cancer starts.

[QUOTE="yourmajesty90"]

[QUOTE="8-Bitterness"] Now, the damn smoke that's coming out is filtered when it enters the smoker... explain to me how the f*** does it become unfiltered once it exits the smoker? When you have a sore throat EVERYTHING will make it feel bad, and not a lot of people die from passive smoking, not enough to assume that a damn whiff will kill you.8-Bitterness

Ok, calm down. Passive smoking is actually a big deal. You don't know how the body reacts to it. It could be 10 whiffs, 20, 30 or even 1 that will have a negative reaction on a cell in your body and a cancer starts.

It could, but you don't know when.

[QUOTE="8-Bitterness"][QUOTE="yourmajesty90"]

Ok, calm down. Passive smoking is actually a big deal. You don't know how the body reacts to it. It could be 10 whiffs, 20, 30 or even 1 that will have a negative reaction on a cell in your body and a cancer starts.

yourmajesty90

It could, but you don't know when.

[QUOTE="yourmajesty90"]

[QUOTE="8-Bitterness"] Now, the damn smoke that's coming out is filtered when it enters the smoker... explain to me how the f*** does it become unfiltered once it exits the smoker? When you have a sore throat EVERYTHING will make it feel bad, and not a lot of people die from passive smoking, not enough to assume that a damn whiff will kill you.8-Bitterness

Ok, calm down. Passive smoking is actually a big deal. You don't know how the body reacts to it. It could be 10 whiffs, 20, 30 or even 1 that will have a negative reaction on a cell in your body and a cancer starts.

Not true, havent you heard of all those smokers that died after 1-30 drags? You know... that big list.... of all the people that died of 1-30 drags... which is probably 2 cigarettes. That huge list of deaths from people that smoked 2 cigarettes... this is all fact and definitely happened.

[QUOTE="yourmajesty90"]

[QUOTE="8-Bitterness"] Or you know, it could be hundreds of thousands of whiffs....DavidianMH

It could, but you don't know when.

i believe a smoker can smoke hundreds of thousands of cigarettes before getting lung cancer... but just the smell can give a non smoker cancer.

Thats why i took up smoking, to prevent lung cancer.

[QUOTE="yourmajesty90"]

[QUOTE="8-Bitterness"] Or you know, it could be hundreds of thousands of whiffs....DavidianMH

It could, but you don't know when.

You've never heard of it, but it happened. There are a lot of cases.

I've never heard of anyone dying from passive-smoking :? And you know it takes hundreds of thousands of cigs to kill someone right?DavidianMH

Now you do.

"We now know that 53,800 people die every year from secondhand smoke exposure. This number is based on the midpoint numbers for heart disease deaths (48,500), lung cancer deaths (3,000), and SIDS deaths (2,300) as calculated in the 1997 California EPA Report on Secondhand Smoke."

www.no-smoke.org/getthefacts.php?id=13