Men can be so stupid.

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#1 Ankaara
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No, I'm not a feminist, and no, this isn't flame bait.  I just need some clarification on how the male mind works. 

 I have a male best friend who I've known since I was about 14.  I'm 24 now.  Back in high school I had confessed to him that I was interested in taking our friendship further, and wanted to explore dating.  He said he was flattered, but not interested.  His family moved about 3 hours away, and in the years to follow we grew apart. 

When I graduated from college, however, I gave him a call.  He came to visit, along with his girlfriend.  She worked at Taco Bell... and well, to me didn't seem even remotely good enough for him.  She left him soon after for a friend of his. 

The next two years we became close friends again, even with the distance.  He visited every few months, and we talked for a few hours every week.  I went to visit him for the first time a few weeks ago.  It was fabulous:  We played Star Wars: Battlefront II (on PS2).  We designed and built him an awesome gaming PC.  We talked about the weaknesses of various Warhammer (the table top game) armies and speculated on the online MMORPG.  We even had a fabulous physical encounter for the first time.

 I realized that I was still very much interested in making our friendship something more.  There's even a good school near him that I had considered going for my Masters at... and I was really considering making the move. 

 Then he told me he asked out a girl the day after I left.  He said he couldn't stand her, but he also couldn't wait to fool around with her.  Needless to say, I was confused and I broke emotionally. 

 Why would a man be willing to marry trashy taco bell girl with no ambition, date irritating girl he hardly knows, etc, when he could have an awesome, loyal, smart, driven girl who's into fantasy, video games, many of his hobbies, makes a good salary, and with whom he has a lot of chemistry?

I've been thinking about this for quite some time and it really offends me.  I'm not sure what to do, because as his best friend still, I'm going to get very irritated and hurt with each idiot he hooks up with.

Please explain the male mind to me. 

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#2 zakkro
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That's the first problem: Men are not complicated creatures. Once you know that, you have to learn how to control them.
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#3 Canuck3000
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We're not all like that. I wouldn't go out with a girl just because of looks. It kinda sounds like he doesn't feel the way about you that you do about him.
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#4 Laserwolf65
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For the same reason that women marry trashy men...
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#5 GameFreak315
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You have to understand that not all guys are like that.  Maybe he doesn't quite see the chemistry you two have or doesn't feel it yet.  It's always like that in the movies.  :P
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#6 RPG-er
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i dont want to be a dick, but im not going to read all that. so im just going to nod my head, and agree with you.
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#7 Denjin_hadouken
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I just read the topic title and you just insulted my manhood!! I am going to have to take you out..

[spoiler] ..on a date to a really expensive restaurant and make you pay for the dinner!! [/spoiler]
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#8 lone_wolf911
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hitler was stupid but you dont go calling all germans are stupid
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#9 foxhound_fox
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Men are stupid. We think with our penises instead of our brains. I thought females understood that.
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#10 NathanHawkins
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you sound like an awesome chick.  i won't speak for him though.
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#11 SaintLeonidas
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dont trash all men for one guys dumb mistake. If you like him smack some sense into him.
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#12 -Karayan-
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You can't force love, even though so many may try.
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#14 Kalel559
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Two things: have you told him specifically that you're interested in him recently? Second thing: guys want sex...
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#15 quiglythegreat
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Well it sounds like you're totally over rating yourself with him. But anyway, it's mostly because he knows you too well. I mean, I imagine if he knows you so well, there can't be that much intrigue. That's my two bits. Still sounds like he's being stupid, though.
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#16 Silchas
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There's usually nothing to explain
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#17 the_leet_kid
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hitler was stupid but you dont go calling all germans are stupidlone_wolf911

Well, she said can be stupid, which is definately true, so I think that some Germans can still be stupid (please don't take that the wrong way)

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#18 krunkmastax
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I'm not sure what the hell his problem is. But I know if in the same situation I would not choose this other girl over someone like you. And just so you know women can be pretty stupid too.
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#19 Carlos_Santana
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hitler was stupid but you dont go calling all germans are stupidlone_wolf911
Hitler was born in Austria
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#20 cmhawk
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she must have bigger boobs than u
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#21 aaaaarrrrggggg
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I don't know how his mind works, but i can tell you he must be part of the minority, because i don't even see why someone would do that. But hey, i'm horrible at analysing other people.
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#22 thisguy51
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well he obviously doesn't see your qualities and for that im sorry but your just gonna have to keep your head up. he looks like he won't change so yeah. i guess all i can say is to keep looking. as for explaining our mind, its basically just a mess and sometimes we don't know what we have until its gone.
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#23 Cyrax-Sektor
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That man is a fool. Often, men don't see a great relationship when it hits them in the face. Hopefully, your friend will break up with her and make the right decision, but alas, fools repeat their mistakes.
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#24 lone_wolf911
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[QUOTE="lone_wolf911"]hitler was stupid but you dont go calling all germans are stupidthe_leet_kid

Well, she said can be stupid, which is definately true, so I think that some Germans can still be stupid (please don't take that the wrong way)

whoops my fault
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#25 Ankaara
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I guess I just can't wrap my head around how a guy can think a girl is so awesome but not want to date her, but at the same time want to date a girl he really doesn't like. He flat out told me that he just doesn't love me, and couldn't date me because it would be fake, a lie, and he could never hurt me like that. But still... I get that, but I don't get what these crappy chicks have over me.
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#26 krunkmastax
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dont trash all men for one guys dumb mistake. If you like him smack some sense into him.SaintLeonidas
Agreed.
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#27 stitch321
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I don't think this guy cares a wink about you. Meet someone else with similar interests to yours, and go to school where you will gain job skill credentials, not where some guy lives.
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#28 MoonSpoon
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I know what you mean. Sorta. All I want is a girl who will stay up late with me and listen to the Magnetic Fields. Really, I'm not asking for much.
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#29 krunkmastax
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she must have bigger boobs than u cmhawk
Lol perv. :P
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#30 grafkhun
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well every man is unique so we cant really help you, but this is an odd case, gamer guy turning down a girl who likes games and him? and i cannot judge him w/o seeing him in person.
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#31 slinky6
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That's not all men, I wouldn't do that, it's incredibly stupid. 
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#32 CuDDKiDD
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No offense but maybe she's better looking than you and the guy's just shallow and want's sex.
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#34 iforgotokie
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He just doesn't feel the same way. The physical encounter was heat of the moment. At least that what I get from what you said.
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#35 freakick
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Did he make his move at that other girl?? if not, what the F**K are u waiting for? Tell him how u fee before its too latel. Hes no psychik to know that u like him. And maybe he told u abt the other girl to make u jelous or something. If so, it sure worked. best of luck with hm.
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#36 the_leet_kid
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I'm a guy, and I'm with your thinking style. But I think humans in general are stupid, despite our superior intelligence.

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#37 quiglythegreat
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[QUOTE="SaintLeonidas"]dont trash all men for one guys dumb mistake. If you like him smack some sense into him.KrunkMastaX
Agreed.

She explicitly said she's not trashing men though. Guys confuse girls and girls confuse guys. That's how it works.
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#38 stitch321
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I guess I just can't wrap my head around how a guy can think a girl is so awesome but not want to date her, but at the same time want to date a girl he really doesn't like. He flat out told me that he just doesn't love me, and couldn't date me because it would be fake, a lie, and he could never hurt me like that. But still... I get that, but I don't get what these crappy chicks have over me. Ankaara
He has bad taste in women, obviously.
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I guess I just can't wrap my head around how a guy can think a girl is so awesome but not want to date her, but at the same time want to date a girl he really doesn't like. He flat out told me that he just doesn't love me, and couldn't date me because it would be fake, a lie, and he could never hurt me like that. But still... I get that, but I don't get what these crappy chicks have over me. Ankaara
Um not to sound like mean or anything..but are you physically attractive? Maybe she looks better than you. Just a thought. I mean you know how some guys are all about looks. I'm just saying.
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#40 MoonSpoon
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According to Marisa, you are wrong. It's pretty much your fault. Just saying.
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I guess I just can't wrap my head around how a guy can think a girl is so awesome but not want to date her, but at the same time want to date a girl he really doesn't like. He flat out told me that he just doesn't love me, and couldn't date me because it would be fake, a lie, and he could never hurt me like that. But still... I get that, but I don't get what these crappy chicks have over me. Ankaara


A lot of men make mistakes when choosing relationships. You are somewhat generalizing and thinking too much. It sounds to me that you should move on and find someone else. Someone who actually cares for what you have to say.
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#42 dragonlife29
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You have to understand that all men aren't that blind to what's in front of them. For one, he obviously can't keep it in his pants, and two, doesn't see that the person he should be with's right in front of him.

You honestly sound like a girl I'd take over any other--you two seemed to hit it off great, with all the similarities...but he sims a bit slow, sorry.

If he told you he couldn't wait to fool around with that one girl, you should see it in two ways--he loves you as a friend and is very comfortable around you; and that he may not see you in the way you see him.

Don't revolve your life around him, making drastic decisions. Considerations don't hurt, just don't get too ahead of yourself.  

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#43 grassdream
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To come to a complete conclusion, I need... A. Picture of you B. Picture of the girls he's been sluttin' it up with.
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#44 NathanHawkins
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I guess I just can't wrap my head around how a guy can think a girl is so awesome but not want to date her, but at the same time want to date a girl he really doesn't like. He flat out told me that he just doesn't love me, and couldn't date me because it would be fake, a lie, and he could never hurt me like that. But still... I get that, but I don't get what these crappy chicks have over me. Ankaara

 

maybe as far as relationships go...one with you intimidates him. 

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#45 Ale_22
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I would have gone for you, you would have had me at BF II
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#46 Rage11
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It's not like women are completely innocent with things like this either.
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#47 CuDDKiDD
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No, I'm not a feminist, and no, this isn't flame bait.  I just need some clarification on how the male mind works. 

 I have a male best friend who I've known since I was about 14.  I'm 24 now.  Back in high school I had confessed to him that I was interested in taking our friendship further, and wanted to explore dating.  He said he was flattered, but not interested.  His family moved about 3 hours away, and in the years to follow we grew apart. 

When I graduated from college, however, I gave him a call.  He came to visit, along with his girlfriend.  She worked at Taco Bell... and well, to me didn't seem even remotely good enough for him.  She left him soon after for a friend of his. 

The next two years we became close friends again, even with the distance.  He visited every few months, and we talked for a few hours every week.  I went to visit him for the first time a few weeks ago.  It was fabulous:  We played Star Wars: Battlefront II (on PS2).  We designed and built him an awesome gaming PC.  We talked about the weaknesses of various Warhammer (the table top game) armies and speculated on the online MMORPG.  We even had a fabulous physical encounter for the first time.

 I realized that I was still very much interested in making our friendship something more.  There's even a good school near him that I had considered going for my Masters at... and I was really considering making the move. 

 Then he told me he asked out a girl the day after I left.  He said he couldn't stand her, but he also couldn't wait to fool around with her.  Needless to say, I was confused and I broke emotionally. 

 Why would a man be willing to marry trashy taco bell girl with no ambition, date irritating girl he hardly knows, etc, when he could have an awesome, loyal, smart, driven girl who's into fantasy, video games, many of his hobbies, makes a good salary, and with whom he has a lot of chemistry?

I've been thinking about this for quite some time and it really offends me.  I'm not sure what to do, because as his best friend still, I'm going to get very irritated and hurt with each idiot he hooks up with.

Please explain the male mind to me. 

Ankaara

When was the last time you updated your profile because it says that you don't have a job...

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#48 slinky6
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He's probably a commitment-phoebe.
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#49 quiglythegreat
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I guess I just can't wrap my head around how a guy can think a girl is so awesome but not want to date her, but at the same time want to date a girl he really doesn't like. He flat out told me that he just doesn't love me, and couldn't date me because it would be fake, a lie, and he could never hurt me like that. But still... I get that, but I don't get what these crappy chicks have over me. Ankaara
He doesn't know them. He can't love you because there is no fantasy. Love is really very well aided by simply being separated from the person and being exposed to them in a highly limited way. But I guess I know nothing.....just kind of talking.
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#50 grafkhun
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I'm a guy, and I'm with your thinking style. But I think humans in general are stupid, despite our superior intelligence.

the_leet_kid
true, we stub our toes often but we can make bombs, :P also we have intellect but no knowledge.