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#201 PannicAtack
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[QUOTE="Funky_Llama"] Humans are moral agents, and capable of higher-level thought than animals.SolidSnake35
So when beings capable of higher-level thoughts than us show up, we won't have a problem with them having their way with us?

And what if there were no hypothetical situations? >_>
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#202 Bloodaxe726
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[QUOTE="Bloodaxe726"]

[QUOTE="SolidSnake35"][QUOTE="anesthesie"]With that, I'm done.SolidSnake35

Here we have an excellent example of how the moderation system sucks the fun out of these boards. I haven't seen anything offensive in this thread (at least, not offensive to someone above the age of five) and yet... this... has to happen. :|

He was an idiot who was incapable of telling the difference between thinking and acting, so it's good he left.

It doesn't matter. He still kept the discussion going.

And got half the people in the thread modded for censor bypassing

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#203 Funky_Llama
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[QUOTE="Funky_Llama"] Humans are moral agents, and capable of higher-level thought than animals.SolidSnake35
So when beings capable of higher-level thoughts than us show up, we won't have a problem with them having their way with us?

I see you ignored the crucial 'moral agents' distinction. :roll:
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#204 SolidSnake35
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[QUOTE="SolidSnake35"][QUOTE="Funky_Llama"] Humans are moral agents, and capable of higher-level thought than animals.PannicAtack
So when beings capable of higher-level thoughts than us show up, we won't have a problem with them having their way with us?

And what if there were no hypothetical situations? >_>

I think it's a fair situation to bring up and entirely possible.
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#205 SolidSnake35
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[QUOTE="SolidSnake35"][QUOTE="Funky_Llama"] Humans are moral agents, and capable of higher-level thought than animals.Funky_Llama
So when beings capable of higher-level thoughts than us show up, we won't have a problem with them having their way with us?

I see you ignored the crucial 'moral agents' distinction. :roll:

Won't these beings also be moral agents therefore canceling it out? No doubt they'd have better morals than us anyway, so they'd be like... your morals are pathetic. Dissect them!
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#206 the_foreign_guy
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I almost fell for PETA. They sent a hot girl giving out stickers, but thank God I knew the evils of their ways.
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#207 SolidSnake35
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[And got half the people in the thread modded for censor bypassing Bloodaxe726
It's their fault for quoting him, really, but I blame the system for being so pedantic though.
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#208 Bloodaxe726
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[QUOTE="Bloodaxe726"][And got half the people in the thread modded for censor bypassing SolidSnake35
It's their fault for quoting him, really, but I blame the system for being so pedantic though.

Yeah, oh well, that makes 4 or 5 mods now, depending on what the message in my box is.

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#209 PannicAtack
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[QUOTE="Funky_Llama"][QUOTE="SolidSnake35"][QUOTE="Funky_Llama"] Humans are moral agents, and capable of higher-level thought than animals.SolidSnake35
So when beings capable of higher-level thoughts than us show up, we won't have a problem with them having their way with us?

I see you ignored the crucial 'moral agents' distinction. :roll:

Won't these beings also be moral agents therefore canceling it out? No doubt they'd have better morals than us anyway, so they'd be like... your morals are pathetic. Dissect them!

This is looking less and less like 'an entirely possible situation' and more and more like a Gilbert & Sullivan opera. >_>
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#210 SolidSnake35
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This is looking less and less like 'an entirely possible situation' and more and more like a Gilbert & Sullivan opera. >_>PannicAtack
It doesn't even need to be possible. So long as we can imagine it...
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#211 MAILER_DAEMON
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[QUOTE="Bloodaxe726"][And got half the people in the thread modded for censor bypassing SolidSnake35
It's their fault for quoting him, really, but I blame the system for being so pedantic though.

Censor Bypassing is the least subjective thing to get modded for though. There's never any reason for it.
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#212 PannicAtack
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[QUOTE="PannicAtack"]This is looking less and less like 'an entirely possible situation' and more and more like a Gilbert & Sullivan opera. >_>SolidSnake35
It doesn't even need to be possible. So long as we can imagine it...

W.S. Gilbert imagined worlds where pirates are really wayward noblemen who surrender when charged to yield in Queen Victoria's name. >_>
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#213 SolidSnake35
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[QUOTE="SolidSnake35"][QUOTE="Bloodaxe726"][And got half the people in the thread modded for censor bypassing MAILER_DAEMON
It's their fault for quoting him, really, but I blame the system for being so pedantic though.

Censor Bypassing is the least subjective thing to get modded for though. There's never any reason for it.

It shouldn't happen, sure, but it shouldn't be in the ToU to begin with. When I see **** I still say the word in my head (knowing the context). It's not any different to [random letter]***. Either allow half censored words or don't allow fully censored words.
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#214 Funky_Llama
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[QUOTE="Funky_Llama"][QUOTE="SolidSnake35"][QUOTE="Funky_Llama"] Humans are moral agents, and capable of higher-level thought than animals.SolidSnake35
So when beings capable of higher-level thoughts than us show up, we won't have a problem with them having their way with us?

I see you ignored the crucial 'moral agents' distinction. :roll:

Won't these beings also be moral agents therefore canceling it out? No doubt they'd have better morals than us anyway, so they'd be like... your morals are pathetic. Dissect them!

No, it wouldn't 'cancel it out'. We are moral agents, animals are not. Thus, a situtation in which both parties are moral agents is not comparable.
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#216 SolidSnake35
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No, it wouldn't 'cancel it out'. We are moral agents, animals are not. Thus, a situtation in which both parties are moral agents is not comparable.Funky_Llama
Oh, okay then. Fair point, but still, what's to say their morals or moral understanding won't exceed ours?
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#217 PannicAtack
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*snaps back into reality* wha...oh sorry,I must of fell asleep while typing....aaaanyway,What were we talking about again,Oh yeah,We were talking about how much I hate anyone who works at a fur farm!

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Well, we've moved on from that to complaining about the censor bypass rule, and animal testing. >_>
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#218 Funky_Llama
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[QUOTE="Funky_Llama"]No, it wouldn't 'cancel it out'. We are moral agents, animals are not. Thus, a situtation in which both parties are moral agents is not comparable.SolidSnake35
Oh, okay then. Fair point, but still, what's to say their morals or moral understanding won't exceed ours?

Well, even if they did, I don't see how that would really change anything. Humans have a sense of morality, and surely that would be enough to give value to human lives.
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#219 SolidSnake35
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[QUOTE="Wolf-avatar"]

*snaps back into reality* wha...oh sorry,I must of fell asleep while typing....aaaanyway,What were we talking about again,Oh yeah,We were talking about how much I hate anyone who works at a fur farm!

PannicAtack
Well, we've moved on from that to complaining about the censor bypass rule, and animal testing. >_>

And we've found that I'm the greatest debater since Ghandi.
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#220 SolidSnake35
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Well, even if they did, I don't see how that would really change anything. Humans have a sense of morality, and surely that would be enough to give value to human lives.Funky_Llama
But in much the same way, there are qualities in animals that give them value too. Just because that value is less than our own does not mean we can do whatever we want.
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#221 PannicAtack
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[QUOTE="PannicAtack"][QUOTE="Wolf-avatar"]

*snaps back into reality* wha...oh sorry,I must of fell asleep while typing....aaaanyway,What were we talking about again,Oh yeah,We were talking about how much I hate anyone who works at a fur farm!

SolidSnake35
Well, we've moved on from that to complaining about the censor bypass rule, and animal testing. >_>

And we've found that I'm the greatest debater since Ghandi.

Not quite, but we have found out the worst... who has left. >_>
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#222 Juggernaut140
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I dont understand why any would want to beat and skin these poor things for a living.

Wolf-avatar

To get to level 60 and enough loot for their epic tier equipment

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#223 snoopeymaster
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yah i saw the video, pretty messed up stuff

but PETA is horrible, i hate them

why would you even show this kind of stuff, tis horrible

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#224 SolidSnake35
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Not quite, but we have found out the worst... who has left. >_>PannicAtack
I hope he isn't lurking. You might hurt his feelings. u_u
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#225 PannicAtack
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[QUOTE="PannicAtack"]Not quite, but we have found out the worst... who has left. >_>SolidSnake35
I hope he isn't lurking. You might hurt his feelings. u_u

He already isulted me. >_>
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#226 cornholio157
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[QUOTE="dissonantblack"][QUOTE="anesthesie"]

PETA is an amazing organization.

They do take drastic measures, but usually, due to the ignorance of others, they are called for.

Wolf-avatar

i beg to differ. if they were trying to save endangered species then i'd be all for it. but instead they do trivial things like try to get the real california cheese commercials taken off the air.

Yeah,Your right.Even though im an animal rights freak,I hate peta so much.

i do agree that mercilously beating animals for no reason is wrong, or just to take anger out like on your pets is also wrong, but i still cant stand PETA, i absolutely hate them

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#227 Juggernaut140
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PETA is scary after watching that video
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#228 Overrated_Hero
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They sent you what?!God I hate fur trade and anyone who enjoys working at a fur farm should burn in hell. :x

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Better make sure nothing in your house is made out of fur then. ;)
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#229 Wolf-avatar
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So,Why are you talking about animal testing,I thought we were talking about fur is murder?

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#230 yabbicoke
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I really wish that the largest animal rights organization in this country wasn't such a freaking joke.

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Oh my God, so cute....

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#231 RadBooley
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yah i saw the video, pretty messed up stuff

but PETA is horrible, i hate them

why would you even show this kind of stuff, tis horrible

snoopeymaster

I love how people pick on PETA for showing the video instead of condemning those who commit the act in the first place.

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#232 Wolf-avatar
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I really wish that the largest animal rights organization in this country wasn't such a freaking joke.

[QUOTE="Wolf-avatar"]

yabbicoke

Oh my God, so cute....

People who work at fur farms must have no souls.

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#233 Juggernaut140
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I really wish that the largest animal rights organization in this country wasn't such a freaking joke.

[QUOTE="Wolf-avatar"]

yabbicoke

Oh my God, so cute....

daaaaaaaawwwww

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#234 Wolf-avatar
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Heres another pic of a cute fox.

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#235 Thanatos_990
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I wanna see the video, I havent been disturbed in awhlie

http://getactive.peta.org/campaign/armani_fur_investigation

animals dont have souls though

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#236 Wolf-avatar
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I wanna see the video, I havent been disturbed in awhlie

http://getactive.peta.org/campaign/armani_fur_investigation

animals dont have souls though

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You dont know that!?!

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#238 Leejjohno
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Call me immoral but I don't feel bad when I see those videos of Animals being beaten and skinned

I think we should worry about humans before we worry about animals. PETA are also a bunch of hypocrites as well and they're actions are idiotic.
Toriko42

Forgetting PETA for a minute... What makes you think humans are worth more than other animals? Vocal cords?

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#239 -KinGz-
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I dont understand why any would want to beat and skin these poor things for a living.

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Can you get me the fox one in 1440x900 pleaaase? :D

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#240 Wolf-avatar
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That was the only pic I could find sorry,It fits my desktop though. :|
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#241 dustincrider
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to be honest... if i saw that, that thing wouldnt stand a chance

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#242 Wolf-avatar
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to be honest... if i saw that, that thing wouldnt stand a chance

dustincrider

That looks so fake...But so what if its not.

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#243 dustincrider
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[QUOTE="dustincrider"]

to be honest... if i saw that, that thing wouldnt stand a chance

Wolf-avatar

That looks so fake...But so what if its not.

so.. if i saw a snarling wolf, especially if i was hunting or was armed, the thing would be dead.. granted im in no way for slaughtering animals but if i see something like a snake, spider, unhappy wolfs, or especially unhappy bears i wont feel comfortable until is dead

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#244 Bloodbath_87
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Some people only understand violence, that's why they send those videos out.
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#245 Power_47
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[QUOTE="Wolf-avatar"][QUOTE="dustincrider"]

to be honest... if i saw that, that thing wouldnt stand a chance

dustincrider

That looks so fake...But so what if its not.

so.. if i saw a snarling wolf, especially if i was hunting or was armed, the thing would be dead.. granted im in no way for slaughtering animals but if i see something like a snake, spider, unhappy wolfs, or especially unhappy bears i wont feel comfortable until is dead

Its survival of the fittest, its sad but thats the way the world works

If I had to choose between a human and an animal, the animal would be dead no matter how cute it is

We value members of our species over other animals just as we do friends over a random person and yes even ourselves over anyone else then maby family. It isnt that we are more important then them its just perspective. A wolf would kill you if it ment saving one of its kind, we are just doing the same.

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#246 mrgab
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Print up the email from peta and use it as toilet paper.
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#247 kingdre
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PETA is a joke. Don't fall for their propaganda.
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#248 Nifty_Shark
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Oh. Well that video sounds awful and probably would have me turning away. Hell I couldn't watch the human decapitations fully either.
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#249 Wolf-avatar
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Oh. Well that video sounds awful and probably would have me turning away. Hell I couldn't watch the human decapitations fully either.Nifty_Shark
Is that some kind of movie on youtube or something?
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#250 ff7cloudking
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Whenever I think of PETA the first thing I think of is the South Park episode.

But yeah, PETA is pretty bad.