I was just sent an email by PETA...

[QUOTE="entropyecho"]

Fur is natural and keeps you warm, why should we wear artificial polymers that are not biodegradable?

An animal can defend itself, a plant on the other hand... who's really being cruel?

(Devil's Advocate)

Wolf-avatar

An animal cant defend its self when its leg is snapped in half by a trap.

That's when they are the most dangerous, when they are cornered or feel threatened.

But I will say this - animal cruelty is correlated with sociopathic, antisocial behavior and violent tendencies.

[QUOTE="entropyecho"]

Fur is natural and keeps you warm, why should we wear artificial polymers that are not biodegradable?

An animal can defend itself, a plant on the other hand... who's really being cruel?

(Devil's Advocate)

JangoWuzHere

How is a plant even a liveing creature... It dosen't move or do anything with its life.

>_>

It's funny how some of you seem more annoyed at PETA than the mistreatment of animals.SolidSnake35

It's rather perplexing.

[QUOTE="JangoWuzHere"][QUOTE="entropyecho"]

Fur is natural and keeps you warm, why should we wear artificial polymers that are not biodegradable?

An animal can defend itself, a plant on the other hand... who's really being cruel?

(Devil's Advocate)

PannicAtack

How is a plant even a liveing creature... It dosen't move or do anything with its life.

>_>

It sounds just like you. :o

It's funny how some of you seem more annoyed at PETA than the mistreatment of animals.SolidSnake35

yes I am more annoyed against PETA. Arson,vandlism and such. The fact that they want humens to die for the sake of animals is wroung.

[QUOTE="SolidSnake35"]It's funny how some of you seem more annoyed at PETA than the mistreatment of animals.JangoWuzHere

yes I am more annoyed against PETA. Arson,vandlism and such. The fact that they want humens to die for the sake of animals is wroung.

Not as wrong as the way you skip spell check.

[QUOTE="PannicAtack"][QUOTE="JangoWuzHere"][QUOTE="entropyecho"]

Fur is natural and keeps you warm, why should we wear artificial polymers that are not biodegradable?

An animal can defend itself, a plant on the other hand... who's really being cruel?

(Devil's Advocate)

Wolf-avatar

How is a plant even a liveing creature... It dosen't move or do anything with its life.

>_>

It sounds just like you. :o

PannicAtack is quite a likable person when silent, n'est-ce pas?

[QUOTE="Wolf-avatar"][QUOTE="PannicAtack"][QUOTE="JangoWuzHere"][QUOTE="entropyecho"]

Fur is natural and keeps you warm, why should we wear artificial polymers that are not biodegradable?

An animal can defend itself, a plant on the other hand... who's really being cruel?

(Devil's Advocate)

anesthesie

How is a plant even a liveing creature... It dosen't move or do anything with its life.

>_>

It sounds just like you. :o

PannicAtack is quite a likable person when silent, n'est-ce pas?

I was just kidding.

[QUOTE="PannicAtack"][QUOTE="JangoWuzHere"][QUOTE="entropyecho"]

Fur is natural and keeps you warm, why should we wear artificial polymers that are not biodegradable?

An animal can defend itself, a plant on the other hand... who's really being cruel?

(Devil's Advocate)

Wolf-avatar

How is a plant even a liveing creature... It dosen't move or do anything with its life.

>_>

It sounds just like you. :o

I just don't consider plants to be as important as animals and humans thats all...

[QUOTE="SolidSnake35"]It's funny how some of you seem more annoyed at PETA than the mistreatment of animals.JangoWuzHere

yes I am more annoyed against PETA. Arson,vandlism and such. The fact that they want humens to die for the sake of animals is wroung.

[QUOTE="PannicAtack"][QUOTE="anesthesie"][QUOTE="PannicAtack"][QUOTE="anesthesie"]That's all relative to what you find wrong, isn't it.

These acts of 'arson' you speak of are really just setting free imprisoned animals. Yes, that was somebody's trade, but again, if the ignorant masses won't listen then make them.

anesthesie

I condone what, in this case, the FBI considers arson. Which is really a pathetic excuse for arson.

Also, you've claimed that ALF is violent.... Bulls*it.

Again, bulls*it.

Violence is attacking the person or any other living creature, and they have never done that. They don't even carry guns.

They carry molotov cocktails. >_>

[QUOTE="entropyecho"]

Fur is natural and keeps you warm, why should we wear artificial polymers that are not biodegradable?

An animal can defend itself, a plant on the other hand... who's really being cruel?

(Devil's Advocate)

JangoWuzHere

How is a plant even a liveing creature... It dosen't move or do anything with its life.

[QUOTE="anesthesie"][QUOTE="Wolf-avatar"][QUOTE="PannicAtack"][QUOTE="JangoWuzHere"][QUOTE="entropyecho"]

Fur is natural and keeps you warm, why should we wear artificial polymers that are not biodegradable?

An animal can defend itself, a plant on the other hand... who's really being cruel?

(Devil's Advocate)

Wolf-avatar

How is a plant even a liveing creature... It dosen't move or do anything with its life.

>_>

It sounds just like you. :o

PannicAtack is quite a likable person when silent, n'est-ce pas?

I was just kidding.

[QUOTE="Wolf-avatar"][QUOTE="PannicAtack"][QUOTE="JangoWuzHere"][QUOTE="entropyecho"]

Fur is natural and keeps you warm, why should we wear artificial polymers that are not biodegradable?

An animal can defend itself, a plant on the other hand... who's really being cruel?

(Devil's Advocate)

JangoWuzHere

How is a plant even a liveing creature... It dosen't move or do anything with its life.

>_>

It sounds just like you. :o

I just don't consider plants to be as important as animals and humans thats all...

What about their production of oxygen?

[QUOTE="JangoWuzHere"]

[QUOTE="SolidSnake35"]It's funny how some of you seem more annoyed at PETA than the mistreatment of animals.Wolf-avatar

yes I am more annoyed against PETA. Arson,vandlism and such. The fact that they want humens to die for the sake of animals is wroung.

Not as wrong as the way you skip spell check.

right.... you would be more happy if I just spell checked everything then fine...-_-

[QUOTE="PannicAtack"][QUOTE="anesthesie"][QUOTE="PannicAtack"][QUOTE="anesthesie"][QUOTE="PannicAtack"][QUOTE="anesthesie"]That's all relative to what you find wrong, isn't it.

These acts of 'arson' you speak of are really just setting free imprisoned animals. Yes, that was somebody's trade, but again, if the ignorant masses won't listen then make them.

anesthesie

I condone what, in this case, the FBI considers arson. Which is really a pathetic excuse for arson.

Also, you've claimed that ALF is violent.... Bulls*it.

Again, bulls*it.

Violence is attacking the person or any other living creature, and they have never done that. They don't even carry guns.

They carry molotov cocktails. >_>

Bulls*it overload.

[QUOTE="JangoWuzHere"][QUOTE="Wolf-avatar"][QUOTE="PannicAtack"][QUOTE="JangoWuzHere"][QUOTE="entropyecho"]

Fur is natural and keeps you warm, why should we wear artificial polymers that are not biodegradable?

An animal can defend itself, a plant on the other hand... who's really being cruel?

(Devil's Advocate)

entropyecho

How is a plant even a liveing creature... It dosen't move or do anything with its life.

>_>

It sounds just like you. :o

I just don't consider plants to be as important as animals and humans thats all...

What about their production of oxygen?

I know that. Oxygen is important.

[QUOTE="SolidSnake35"]It's funny how some of you seem more annoyed at PETA than the mistreatment of animals.JangoWuzHere

yes I am more annoyed against PETA. Arson,vandlism and such. The fact that they want humens to die for the sake of animals is wroung.

[QUOTE="PannicAtack"][QUOTE="anesthesie"][QUOTE="PannicAtack"][QUOTE="anesthesie"][QUOTE="PannicAtack"][QUOTE="anesthesie"]That's all relative to what you find wrong, isn't it.

These acts of 'arson' you speak of are really just setting free imprisoned animals. Yes, that was somebody's trade, but again, if the ignorant masses won't listen then make them.

anesthesie

I condone what, in this case, the FBI considers arson. Which is really a pathetic excuse for arson.

Also, you've claimed that ALF is violent.... Bulls*it.

Again, bulls*it.

Violence is attacking the person or any other living creature, and they have never done that. They don't even carry guns.

They carry molotov cocktails. >_>

Bulls*it overload.

actually they do carry those. or something similar to it.

[QUOTE="anesthesie"][QUOTE="PannicAtack"][QUOTE="anesthesie"][QUOTE="PannicAtack"][QUOTE="anesthesie"][QUOTE="PannicAtack"][QUOTE="anesthesie"]That's all relative to what you find wrong, isn't it.

These acts of 'arson' you speak of are really just setting free imprisoned animals. Yes, that was somebody's trade, but again, if the ignorant masses won't listen then make them.

PannicAtack

I condone what, in this case, the FBI considers arson. Which is really a pathetic excuse for arson.

Also, you've claimed that ALF is violent.... Bulls*it.

Again, bulls*it.

Violence is attacking the person or any other living creature, and they have never done that. They don't even carry guns.

They carry molotov cocktails. >_>

Bulls*it overload.

[QUOTE="entropyecho"][QUOTE="JangoWuzHere"][QUOTE="Wolf-avatar"][QUOTE="PannicAtack"][QUOTE="JangoWuzHere"][QUOTE="entropyecho"]

Fur is natural and keeps you warm, why should we wear artificial polymers that are not biodegradable?

An animal can defend itself, a plant on the other hand... who's really being cruel?

(Devil's Advocate)

JangoWuzHere

How is a plant even a liveing creature... It dosen't move or do anything with its life.

>_>

It sounds just like you. :o

I just don't consider plants to be as important as animals and humans thats all...

What about their production of oxygen?

I know that. Oxygen is important.

This whole thread just became ridiculously infantile.

[QUOTE="PannicAtack"][QUOTE="anesthesie"][QUOTE="PannicAtack"][QUOTE="anesthesie"]That's all relative to what you find wrong, isn't it.

These acts of 'arson' you speak of are really just setting free imprisoned animals. Yes, that was somebody's trade, but again, if the ignorant masses won't listen then make them.

anesthesie

I condone what, in this case, the FBI considers arson. Which is really a pathetic excuse for arson.

Also, you've claimed that ALF is violent.... Bulls*it.

Again, bulls*it.

Violence is attacking the person or any other living creature, and they have never done that. They don't even carry guns.

vi·o·lence–noun

That is a bit extreme, in my opinion. They could have made their point just the same if they provided facts & truths, instead of needing show a video of an animal being beaten and skinned.

Sometimes, it makes me wonder how they get such videos, especially of a baby wolf. People just don't gather wolves and then skin them. I never heard of an industry that has wolves caged up and used for fur. Makes me wonder if PETA does this themselves, and then show people.

Wouldn't put it past me if they did do that.

Look back a few comments, I said I condoned what they did, which is a sad excuse for arson.anesthesie

[QUOTE="JangoWuzHere"]

[QUOTE="SolidSnake35"]It's funny how some of you seem more annoyed at PETA than the mistreatment of animals.SolidSnake35

yes I am more annoyed against PETA. Arson,vandlism and such. The fact that they want humens to die for the sake of animals is wroung.

Why would anyone go to that kind of measures?

That's like saying I would kill people who kills other animals. But in the end im not doing anything diffrent then what the other person was doing. In the end no one learns anything.

Its odd really

Sometimes, it makes me wonder how they get such videos, especially of a baby wolf. People just don't gather wolves and then skin them. I never heard of an industry that has wolves caged up and used for fur. Makes me wonder if PETA does this themselves, and then show people.

Wouldn't put it past me if they did do that.

ayanami_rei

Crap, I was just moderated.

Was that you?

Call me immoral but I don't feel bad when I see those videos of Animals being beaten and skinned

I think we should worry about humans before we worry about animals. PETA are also a bunch of hypocrites as well and they're actions are idiotic.
Toriko42

I dont agree with PETA's methods but we are above that. At this point in time you have to take out 3 quarters of your brain to appreciate recreational hunting, or killing animals for rituals. Nowadays, we kill animals as humanely as possible for meat. We dont club and skin them. I would understand hunting in the wild to survive, thats natural, but when hunters shoot and gut animals for the 'sport' of it, it fills me with homicidal rage.

I agree that we should worry about humans first, but I dont agree with not feeling bad when people kill animals in the most horrible ways for sport or rituals. Think about where humans are nowadays. We arent out in the wild, working for every little scrap of food we can get. We live comfortably, and we can go to any supermarket and get all the food we need.

At this point, killing animals in unhumane ways out in the wild is cruel and disgusting.

Sometimes, it makes me wonder how they get such videos, especially of a baby wolf. People just don't gather wolves and then skin them. I never heard of an industry that has wolves caged up and used for fur. Makes me wonder if PETA does this themselves, and then show people.

Wouldn't put it past me if they did do that.

ayanami_rei

yes I do like to know were they get these videos. Most of the time I think they do it to get the message over the country.

That's like saying I would kill people who kills other animals. But in the end im not doing anything diffrent then what the other person was doing. In the end no one learns anything. Its odd reallyJangoWuzHere

[QUOTE="Toriko42"]Call me immoral but I don't feel bad when I see those videos of Animals being beaten and skinned

I think we should worry about humans before we worry about animals. PETA are also a bunch of hypocrites as well and they're actions are idiotic.
Myrkan

I dont agree with PETA's methods but we are above that. At this point in time you have to take out 3 quarters of your brain to appreciate recreational hunting, or killing animals for rituals. Nowadays, we kill animals as humanely as possible for meat. We dont club and skin them. I would understand hunting in the wild to survive, thats natural, but when hunters shoot and gut animals for the 'sport' of it, it fills me with homicidal rage.

I agree that we should worry about humans first, but I dont agree with not feeling bad when people kill animals in the most horrible ways for sport or rituals. Think about where humans are nowadays. We arent out in the wild, working for every little scrap of food we can get. We live comfortably, and we can go to any supermarket and get all the food we need.

At this point, killing animals in unhumane ways out in the wild is cruel and disgusting.

Hunting is neccesary by this point because people killed off all the predators to save their livestock, if not for hunters the animals would die of starvation and disease.

[QUOTE="anesthesie"]Look back a few comments, I said I condoned what they did, which is a sad excuse for arson.PannicAtack

I stand by what I said. It's a sad excuse.

And you didn't really say animal testing is helping anyone, did you?I thought I was debating a capable opponent.... Perhaps I was wrong.

[QUOTE="Toriko42"]Call me immoral but I don't feel bad when I see those videos of Animals being beaten and skinned

I think we should worry about humans before we worry about animals. PETA are also a bunch of hypocrites as well and they're actions are idiotic.
Myrkan

I dont agree with PETA's methods but we are above that. At this point in time you have to take out 3 quarters of your brain to appreciate recreational hunting, or killing animals for rituals. Nowadays, we kill animals as humanely as possible for meat. We dont club and skin them. I would understand hunting in the wild to survive, thats natural, but when hunters shoot and gut animals for the 'sport' of it, it fills me with homicidal rage.

I agree that we should worry about humans first, but I dont agree with not feeling bad when people kill animals in the most horrible ways for sport or rituals. Think about where humans are nowadays. We arent out in the wild, working for every little scrap of food we can get. We live comfortably, and we can go to any supermarket and get all the food we need.

At this point, killing animals in unhumane ways out in the wild is cruel and disgusting.

Yes that's what PETA should be going against. Hunting for sport has no value in this world. I wouldn't mind of PETA to go against that at all. But instead they focus on things that does not matter like rebelling against KFC?? I come on PETA can't you save animals lives instead of just making your selves look like a bunch of fools??!

I said violence was against a living creature. No where in there did it talk about it having to do with a business or location.anesthesie

[QUOTE="PannicAtack"][QUOTE="anesthesie"]Look back a few comments, I said I condoned what they did, which is a sad excuse for arson.anesthesie

I stand by what I said. It's a sad excuse.

And you didn't really say animal testing is helping anyone, did you?I thought I was debating a capable opponent.... Perhaps I was wrong.

Animal testing has, and continues, to save human lives.

[QUOTE="JangoWuzHere"]That's like saying I would kill people who kills other animals. But in the end im not doing anything diffrent then what the other person was doing. In the end no one learns anything. Its odd reallySolidSnake35

You know what I'm not going to try to reason with somone like you. I wouldn't be surprised if you are a PETA member.

[QUOTE="anesthesie"]

[QUOTE="PannicAtack"][QUOTE="anesthesie"]Look back a few comments, I said I condoned what they did, which is a sad excuse for arson.PannicAtack

I stand by what I said. It's a sad excuse.

And you didn't really say animal testing is helping anyone, did you?I thought I was debating a capable opponent.... Perhaps I was wrong.

Animal testing has, and continues, to save human lives.

I was definitely wrong. I should just quit with you now, I see no more reason in your comments.

Animal testing has, and continues, to save human lives.PannicAtack

[QUOTE="anesthesie"]

[QUOTE="PannicAtack"][QUOTE="anesthesie"]Look back a few comments, I said I condoned what they did, which is a sad excuse for arson.PannicAtack

I stand by what I said. It's a sad excuse.

And you didn't really say animal testing is helping anyone, did you?I thought I was debating a capable opponent.... Perhaps I was wrong.

Animal testing has, and continues, to save human lives.

without animal testing we could expect the Human race to plunge down into death as well. I guess thats what PETA wants overall...

[QUOTE="ayanami_rei"]

Sometimes, it makes me wonder how they get such videos, especially of a baby wolf. People just don't gather wolves and then skin them. I never heard of an industry that has wolves caged up and used for fur. Makes me wonder if PETA does this themselves, and then show people.

Wouldn't put it past me if they did do that.

anesthesie

Crap, I was just moderated.

Was that you?