I was just sent an email by PETA...

[QUOTE="anesthesie"]I said violence was against a living creature. No where in there did it talk about it having to do with a business or location.SolidSnake35

You could act violent, but that wouldn't be AN act of violence. Big difference.

You can have homicidal thoughts but that doesn't make you a killer. That makes you a very dangerous person with homicidal tendencies.

[QUOTE="SolidSnake35"][QUOTE="JangoWuzHere"]That's like saying I would kill people who kills other animals. But in the end im not doing anything diffrent then what the other person was doing. In the end no one learns anything. Its odd reallyJangoWuzHere

You know what I'm not going to try to reason with somone like you. I wouldn't be surprised if you are a PETA member.

[QUOTE="PannicAtack"][QUOTE="anesthesie"]

[QUOTE="PannicAtack"][QUOTE="anesthesie"]Look back a few comments, I said I condoned what they did, which is a sad excuse for arson.anesthesie

I stand by what I said. It's a sad excuse.

And you didn't really say animal testing is helping anyone, did you?I thought I was debating a capable opponent.... Perhaps I was wrong.

Animal testing has, and continues, to save human lives.

I was definitely wrong. I should just quit with you now, I see no more reason in your comments.

I'll give you one last chance to retract before I prove my side. >_>

[QUOTE="SolidSnake35"][QUOTE="anesthesie"]I said violence was against a living creature. No where in there did it talk about it having to do with a business or location.anesthesie

You could act violent, but that wouldn't be AN act of violence. Big difference.

You can have homicidal thoughts but that doesn't make you a killer. That makes you a very dangerous person with homicidal tendencies.

Having violent thoughts and acting violent are two very different things that you just claimed to be the same thing, and there is no real difference in acting violent and commiting and act of violence.

[QUOTE="anesthesie"][QUOTE="ayanami_rei"]

Sometimes, it makes me wonder how they get such videos, especially of a baby wolf. People just don't gather wolves and then skin them. I never heard of an industry that has wolves caged up and used for fur. Makes me wonder if PETA does this themselves, and then show people.

Wouldn't put it past me if they did do that.

ayanami_rei

Crap, I was just moderated.

Was that you?

I know WHY. Which seems kind of bogus to me seeing that I did use an asterisk.

I was wondering (accusing, really) if it was you.

without animal testing we could expect the Human race to plunge down into death as well. I guess thats what PETA wants overall... JangoWuzHere

[QUOTE="anesthesie"]

[QUOTE="SolidSnake35"][QUOTE="anesthesie"]I said violence was against a living creature. No where in there did it talk about it having to do with a business or location.Bloodaxe726

You could act violent, but that wouldn't be AN act of violence. Big difference.

You can have homicidal thoughts but that doesn't make you a killer. That makes you a very dangerous person with homicidal tendencies.

Having violent thoughts and acting violent are two very different things that you just claimed to be the same thing, and there is no real difference in acting violent and commiting and act of violence.

You're saying exactly what I said but claiming I didn't say it.

Having homicidal tendencies does not equal Homicidal.

And acting violent does not equate with violent acts.

[QUOTE="JangoWuzHere"]

[QUOTE="SolidSnake35"][QUOTE="JangoWuzHere"]That's like saying I would kill people who kills other animals. But in the end im not doing anything diffrent then what the other person was doing. In the end no one learns anything. Its odd reallySolidSnake35

You know what I'm not going to try to reason with somone like you. I wouldn't be surprised if you are a PETA member.

right about what? I had no idea what you were trying to prove in the first place...

[QUOTE="Bloodaxe726"][QUOTE="anesthesie"]

[QUOTE="SolidSnake35"][QUOTE="anesthesie"]I said violence was against a living creature. No where in there did it talk about it having to do with a business or location.anesthesie

You could act violent, but that wouldn't be AN act of violence. Big difference.

You can have homicidal thoughts but that doesn't make you a killer. That makes you a very dangerous person with homicidal tendencies.

Having violent thoughts and acting violent are two very different things that you just claimed to be the same thing, and there is no real difference in acting violent and commiting and act of violence.

You're saying exactly what I said but claiming I didn't say it.

Having homicidal tendencies does not equal Homicidal.

And acting violent does not equate with violent acts.

Acting violent is the same thing as a violent act, just worded differently, you compared thinking violently to acting violently.

I know WHY. Which seems kind of bogus to me seeing that I did use an asterisk.

I was wondering (accusing, really) if it was you.

anesthesie

right about what? I had no idea what you were trying to prove in the first place... JangoWuzHere

You asked for it:

Vaccines:

Antrax
Chicken Pox
Cholera
Diptheria
Flu
Influenza B
Hepatitus A and B
Measles
Mumps
Polio
Rabies
Rubella
Smallpox
Tetanus
Whooping Cough
Yellow Fever

Medications:

Insulin
Penicillin
Streptomycin
Anti-Inflammatory Drugs
Pain Killers
Anticoagulants
Chemotherapy
Cyclosporine

Devices:

Pacemakers
Artificial Heart
Artificial Hip
Artificial Knee

Procedures:

Angioplasty
Heart Transplantation
Kidney Transplantation
Liver Transplantation
Corneal Transplantation

All from medical research with animal testing. And that's a small list. >_>

All from medical research with animal testing. >_>PannicAtack

[QUOTE="JangoWuzHere"]right about what? I had no idea what you were trying to prove in the first place... SolidSnake35

I believe this quote is suitable here "An eye for an eye makes the whole world blind" ~Ghandi

Sometimes, it makes me wonder how they get such videos, especially of a baby wolf. People just don't gather wolves and then skin them. I never heard of an industry that has wolves caged up and used for fur. Makes me wonder if PETA does this themselves, and then show people.

Wouldn't put it past me if they did do that.

ayanami_rei

Have you ever heard of an 'industry' of people chainsawing pigs head off?

[QUOTE="PannicAtack"]All from medical research with animal testing. >_>SolidSnake35

[QUOTE="JangoWuzHere"]right about what? I had no idea what you were trying to prove in the first place... SolidSnake35

why do they have to die? why not lock em up in jail or something >_>. and since animals like the grizzly bear have killed many people. so by your logic we should just kill the grizzly bear instead of just keeping it away from humans....

[QUOTE="anesthesie"][QUOTE="Bloodaxe726"][QUOTE="anesthesie"]

[QUOTE="SolidSnake35"][QUOTE="anesthesie"]I said violence was against a living creature. No where in there did it talk about it having to do with a business or location.Bloodaxe726

You could act violent, but that wouldn't be AN act of violence. Big difference.

You can have homicidal thoughts but that doesn't make you a killer. That makes you a very dangerous person with homicidal tendencies.

Having violent thoughts and acting violent are two very different things that you just claimed to be the same thing, and there is no real difference in acting violent and commiting and act of violence.

You're saying exactly what I said but claiming I didn't say it.

Having homicidal tendencies does not equal Homicidal.

And acting violent does not equate with violent acts.

Acting violent is the same thing as a violent act, just worded differently, you compared thinking violently to acting violently.

It was actually a comment directed at the user with the Emma Watson picture, who said you can be violent to an inanimate object. Which you can't. THAT isactingviolently.

Look up "act" with your dictionary.

[QUOTE="SolidSnake35"][QUOTE="JangoWuzHere"]right about what? I had no idea what you were trying to prove in the first place... Bloodaxe726

I believe this quote is suitable here "An eye for an eye makes the whole world blind" ~Ghandi

[QUOTE="anesthesie"]

I know WHY. Which seems kind of bogus to me seeing that I did use an asterisk.

I was wondering (accusing, really) if it was you.

ayanami_rei

And I said someone's comments were stupid and it was deleted for trolling! That one was truly lame.

[QUOTE="PannicAtack"]All from medical research with animal testing. >_>SolidSnake35

You asked for it:

Vaccines:

Antrax
Chicken Pox
Cholera
Diptheria
Flu
Influenza B
Hepatitus A and B
Measles
Mumps
Polio
Rabies
Rubella
Smallpox
Tetanus
Whooping Cough
Yellow Fever

Medications:

Insulin
Penicillin
Streptomycin
Anti-Inflammatory Drugs
Pain Killers
Anticoagulants
Chemotherapy
Cyclosporine

Devices:

Pacemakers
Artificial Heart
Artificial Hip
Artificial Knee

Procedures:

Angioplasty
Heart Transplantation
Kidney Transplantation
Liver Transplantation
Corneal Transplantation

All from medical research with animal testing. And that's a small list. >_>

PannicAtack

You fail to prove how these things were aided by animal testing.

[QUOTE="PannicAtack"]All from medical research with animal testing. And that's a small list. >_>anesthesie

why do they have to die? why not lock em up in jail or something >_>. and since animals like the grizzly bear have killed many people. so by your logic we should just kill the grizzly bear instead of just keeping it away from humans.... JangoWuzHere

[QUOTE="PannicAtack"]

You asked for it:

Vaccines:

Antrax
Chicken Pox
Cholera
Diptheria
Flu
Influenza B
Hepatitus A and B
Measles
Mumps
Polio
Rabies
Rubella
Smallpox
Tetanus
Whooping Cough
Yellow Fever

Medications:

Insulin
Penicillin
Streptomycin
Anti-Inflammatory Drugs
Pain Killers
Anticoagulants
Chemotherapy
Cyclosporine

Devices:

Pacemakers
Artificial Heart
Artificial Hip
Artificial Knee

Procedures:

Angioplasty
Heart Transplantation
Kidney Transplantation
Liver Transplantation
Corneal Transplantation

All from medical research with animal testing. And that's a small list. >_>

anesthesie

You fail to prove how these things were aided by animal testing.

why you need a link? are you that lazy to look it up your self?

[QUOTE="SolidSnake35"][QUOTE="PannicAtack"]All from medical research with animal testing. >_>Funky_Llama

This is ridiculous. Someone is having a heyday moderating me.

I assume it's because the language I used. (Or at least some of them were, I'm convinced that others were just for pointing out that I've been moderated.)

Barely more than half of my argument remains posted because so many of my comments have been deleted.

I'd love to keep debating. (I'm not being dry, I really would like to continue.) But this is growing more and more ridiculous.

With that, I'm done.

[QUOTE="PannicAtack"]All from medical research with animal testing. >_>SolidSnake35

[QUOTE="ayanami_rei"]

Sometimes, it makes me wonder how they get such videos, especially of a baby wolf. People just don't gather wolves and then skin them. I never heard of an industry that has wolves caged up and used for fur. Makes me wonder if PETA does this themselves, and then show people.

Wouldn't put it past me if they did do that.

esb1118

Have you ever heard of an 'industry' of people chainsawing pigs head off?

[QUOTE="Funky_Llama"][QUOTE="SolidSnake35"][QUOTE="PannicAtack"]All from medical research with animal testing. >_>SolidSnake35

It's had benefits to animals. The rabies vaccine, for example. >_>PannicAtack

[QUOTE="PannicAtack"]It's had benefits to animals. The rabies vaccine, for example. >_>SolidSnake35

So by indirectly helping a disease that killed tons of animals we did nothing to help them because it wasn't a direct thing?

[QUOTE="Funky_Llama"][QUOTE="SolidSnake35"][QUOTE="PannicAtack"]All from medical research with animal testing. >_>SolidSnake35

[QUOTE="PannicAtack"]It's had benefits to animals. The rabies vaccine, for example. >_>SolidSnake35

With that, I'm done.anesthesie

[QUOTE="PannicAtack"]It's had benefits to animals. The rabies vaccine, for example. >_>SolidSnake35

Wow so its like you don't want help animals or humans just let em die off>_>

This is ridiculous. Someone is having a heyday moderating me.

I assume it's because the language I used. (Or at least some of them were, I'm convinced that others were just for pointing out that I've been moderated.)

Barely more than half of my argument remains posted because so many of my comments have been deleted.

I'd love to keep debating. (I'm not being dry, I really would like to continue.) But this is growing more and more ridiculous.

With that, I'm done.

anesthesie

[QUOTE="SolidSnake35"][QUOTE="anesthesie"]With that, I'm done.Bloodaxe726

He was an idiot who was incapable of telling the difference between thinking and acting, so it's good he left.

[QUOTE="PannicAtack"]All from medical research with animal testing. >_>SolidSnake35

where would you find them?

Humans are moral agents, and capable of higher-level thought than animals.Funky_Llama

[QUOTE="SolidSnake35"][QUOTE="PannicAtack"]All from medical research with animal testing. >_>markop2003

where would you find them?