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sa pizza is $22 I'll tip 3....$22.50 I'll tip $3.50 ....whatever makes my reciept an even number.....if there is a delivery fee..I tip nothing.....Omni-Slash
out of curiosity, does the delivery fee go to the driver? Or is it just some stupid extra fee to make them more money?
I dont tip if there is a fee either, but I've always wondered that...
out of curiosity, does the delivery fee go to the driver? Or is it just some stupid extra fee to make them more money?
I dont tip if there is a fee either, but I've always wondered that...
I think it goes to the driver...I have a cousin-in law that works for pizza place and he says the delivery fee is usually instituted in an area that people aren't tipping in....because it gets hard for them to get drivers....[QUOTE="Omni-Slash"]sa pizza is $22 I'll tip 3....$22.50 I'll tip $3.50 ....whatever makes my reciept an even number.....if there is a delivery fee..I tip nothing.....mrbojangles25
out of curiosity, does the delivery fee go to the driver? Or is it just some stupid extra fee to make them more money?
I dont tip if there is a fee either, but I've always wondered that...
When I was delivering pizza, I didn't get the delivery fee. I rarely went to an address that didn't tip me though, even the poor people. That there are so many people on OT that don't tip is surprising to me. Maybe in NJ people tip and they don't tip in other places. In NC the delivery driver has this look of complete surprise when I tip him 20%. They thank me like I saved their life or something.[QUOTE="mrbojangles25"][QUOTE="Omni-Slash"]sa pizza is $22 I'll tip 3....$22.50 I'll tip $3.50 ....whatever makes my reciept an even number.....if there is a delivery fee..I tip nothing.....wstfld
out of curiosity, does the delivery fee go to the driver? Or is it just some stupid extra fee to make them more money?
I dont tip if there is a fee either, but I've always wondered that...
When I was delivering pizza, I didn't get the delivery fee. I rarely went to an address that didn't tip me though, even the poor people. That there are so many people on OT that don't tip is surprising to me. Maybe in NJ people tip and they don't tip in other places. In NC the delivery driver has this look of complete surprise when I tip him 20%. They thank me like I saved their life or something.Yea I tip in every situation except when there is a delivery fee. I always assumed the fee goes to the driver, but I guess not :(
Either way, I still won't tip if there is a delivery fee. If drivers take issue with it, they can chew out their boss, not the customer lol. The cost of gas should be incorporated into the cost of the pizza, not some extra charge tacked on.
The cost of gas should be incorporated into the cost of the pizza, not some extra charge tacked on.mrbojangles25
But how is that better? Then customers would be paying for the service even if they go pick up the pizza themselves. Doesn't it make more sense for that extra charge to only be paid for by the people actually using the service?
[QUOTE="mrbojangles25"]The cost of gas should be incorporated into the cost of the pizza, not some extra charge tacked on.
MrGeezer
But how is that better? Then customers would be paying for the service even if they go pick up the pizza themselves. Doesn't it make more sense for that extra charge to only be paid for by the people actually using the service?
They can charge differently for when you go to take it directly from the store.Same thing they do in some cafaterias with coffee. If you take your coffee and sit on a table then you pay a higher price than when you take the coffee to-go.
Although in this case the difference is that the higher price is because the customers use the facilities the cafeteria offers and pays rent for (sofas, tables etc).
His point I think was: make this added price official, make it part of the price-list.
[QUOTE="mrbojangles25"]The cost of gas should be incorporated into the cost of the pizza, not some extra charge tacked on.
MrGeezer
But how is that better? Then customers would be paying for the service even if they go pick up the pizza themselves. Doesn't it make more sense for that extra charge to only be paid for by the people actually using the service?
sorry lol I did not mean they should raise and lower the price of the pizza according to gas prices, I am saying that whatever money they make should cover gas as well. Pizza is shockingly inexpensive to make.
I worded myself poorly.
I tip a mininum of $3, no matter what. What a lot of people don't know is that the delivery charge goes straight to the companies pockets, not the driver. So a tip should be reflected based off of the total price before the shipping charge.
Like last night, I ordered a large from Pizza Hut. Total was $12 w/ $2 shipping charge. I gave the dude $5 because it was **** outside and I know a lot of people don't tip well or even at all (and if you want evidence of this...look at some of the ignorant people in this thread). I also gave him a bong hit for the road, something he really appreciated.
Same unless its bad service.I tip 20% in any situation that calls for tipping.
So, $20 pizza? $4 tip.
-starman-
[QUOTE="MrGeezer"]
[QUOTE="mrbojangles25"]The cost of gas should be incorporated into the cost of the pizza, not some extra charge tacked on.
Teenaged
But how is that better? Then customers would be paying for the service even if they go pick up the pizza themselves. Doesn't it make more sense for that extra charge to only be paid for by the people actually using the service?
They can charge differently for when you go to take it directly from the store.Same thing they do in some cafaterias with coffee. If you take your coffee and sit on a table then you pay a higher price than when you take the coffee to-go.
Although in this case the difference is that the higher price is because the customers use the facilities the cafeteria offers and pays rent for (sofas, tables etc).
His point I think was: make this added price official, make it part of the price-list.
But if you charge a different price for the pick-up pizza and delivery pizza, then that's EXACTLY the same as simply slapping on a service charge in the case of delivery.
Because it's the right thing to do? They don't make much, tips are everything. It's also a dangerous job.Why would I tip the pizza guy?
Pat-Bateman23
They can charge differently for when you go to take it directly from the store.[QUOTE="Teenaged"]
[QUOTE="MrGeezer"]
But how is that better? Then customers would be paying for the service even if they go pick up the pizza themselves. Doesn't it make more sense for that extra charge to only be paid for by the people actually using the service?
MrGeezer
Same thing they do in some cafaterias with coffee. If you take your coffee and sit on a table then you pay a higher price than when you take the coffee to-go.
Although in this case the difference is that the higher price is because the customers use the facilities the cafeteria offers and pays rent for (sofas, tables etc).
His point I think was: make this added price official, make it part of the price-list.
But if you charge a different price for the pick-up pizza and delivery pizza, then that's EXACTLY the same as simply slapping on a service charge in the case of delivery.
When it comes to what I end up paying, yes it is.But just to make myself clear, I do tip deliverymen, and its not so much the extra cost of tipping that bothers me. Its the rationale behind having such a system. Basically its pretty much asking for the customer to compensate for the low wages and delivery costs (if they arent stated in the price list) after the event of purchasing the product, in an unofficial manner just because the company will refuse to add those to their prices officially so that their products dont appear pricey. Personally, that irks me. If they want me to pay for something and they think the whole service deserves it, add it to the price-list.
But just to make myself clear, I do tip deliverymen, and its not so much the extra cost of tipping that bothers me. Its the rationale behind having such a system. Basically its pretty much asking for the customer to compensate for the low wages and delivery costs (if they arent stated in the price list) after the event of purchasing the product, in an unofficial manner just because the company will refuse to add those to their prices officially so that their products dont appear pricey. Personally, that irks me. If they want me to pay for something and they think the whole service deserves it, add it to the price-list.
Teenaged
Firstly, I wasn't talking about a "tip", I was talking about a mandatory service fee. The difference being that with a tip, you just plain don't have to pay it.
Secondly, you would still be paying for the dude's wages if Pizza Hut flat out just decided to give him a higher wage. The difference is that now you would HAVE to pay good-service-prices even when your pizza arrives cold two hours later. Essentially, you'd be forced to pay for service that you didn't get. At least with tips, you don't have to pay if the service stunk. How is that not clearly a benefit to the customer?
[QUOTE="Teenaged"]
But just to make myself clear, I do tip deliverymen, and its not so much the extra cost of tipping that bothers me. Its the rationale behind having such a system. Basically its pretty much asking for the customer to compensate for the low wages and delivery costs (if they arent stated in the price list) after the event of purchasing the product, in an unofficial manner just because the company will refuse to add those to their prices officially so that their products dont appear pricey. Personally, that irks me. If they want me to pay for something and they think the whole service deserves it, add it to the price-list.
MrGeezer
Firstly, I wasn't talking about a "tip", I was talking about a mandatory service fee. The difference being that with a tip, you just plain don't have to pay it.
Secondly, you would still be paying for the dude's wages if Pizza Hut flat out just decided to give him a higher wage. The difference is that now you would HAVE to pay good-service-prices even when your pizza arrives cold two hours later. Essentially, you'd be forced to pay for service that you didn't get. At least with tips, you don't have to pay if the service stunk. How is that not clearly a benefit to the customer?
If my pizza arrived 2 hours later and cold I would refuse to pay and send him back to the restaurant with the pizza telling them to forget it.[QUOTE="Teenaged"]
But just to make myself clear, I do tip deliverymen, and its not so much the extra cost of tipping that bothers me. Its the rationale behind having such a system. Basically its pretty much asking for the customer to compensate for the low wages and delivery costs (if they arent stated in the price list) after the event of purchasing the product, in an unofficial manner just because the company will refuse to add those to their prices officially so that their products dont appear pricey. Personally, that irks me. If they want me to pay for something and they think the whole service deserves it, add it to the price-list.
MrGeezer
Firstly, I wasn't talking about a "tip", I was talking about a mandatory service fee. The difference being that with a tip, you just plain don't have to pay it.
Secondly, you would still be paying for the dude's wages if Pizza Hut flat out just decided to give him a higher wage. The difference is that now you would HAVE to pay good-service-prices even when your pizza arrives cold two hours later. Essentially, you'd be forced to pay for service that you didn't get. At least with tips, you don't have to pay if the service stunk. How is that not clearly a benefit to the customer?
Ah ok. So mandatory service fee is for other costs and the like?I'm not saying the tipping system cant be used by the customer for his/her own benefit or that it is altogether useless (after all it is helpful for the underpaid delivery-men/waiters). Just that I dont agree with people who find it inhumane/abnormal/ridiculous or what have you to not tip (now I am not sure if they also advocate tipping no matter the quality of the service).
Its just that as a consumer I prefer to know beforehand what I am paying, "officially". Now whether or not that tactic is ultimately good for me as a customer and the service I receive, I do not know, but at the same time I wouldnt say that it makes a huge difference to the service I receive since here (and this is slightly off topic) when it comes to waiters/waitresses, some percentage is added as a tip in the foods price, so you have less reason to tip than in the US but still I dont see the waiters/waitresses not do their job properly generally, and as for deliverymen I dont remember any time that I received my delivery very late. But anyway I am just an individual and dont make up the majority but my experience matters to me when it comes to what I prefer.
People should always tip the employees to restaurants they eat from regularly. I manage at a restaurant and the regular customers that well are always given extra care/service. Whether it be a free beer or making sure their food gets made exactly the way they like it. Both people benefit from it so you may as well leave an extra dollar.
If my pizza arrived 2 hours later and cold I would refuse to pay and send him back to the restaurant with the pizza telling them to forget it.testfactor888
Which is the exact same situation, regardless of if a "tip" is included in the price or added on later.
Just that I dont agree with people who find it inhumane/abnormal/ridiculous or what have you to not tip (now I am not sure if they also advocate tipping no matter the quality of the service).Teenaged
Of course you shouldn't tip (or you should tip poorly) if the service sucks. The tip IS payment for service. If you don't get good service, then you shouldn't pay for good service.
At the same time though, if you DO get good service, then you should pay for it. Someone who gets good service and then refuses to tip just because they are cheap, is abusing the system and ruining it for everyone else. If enough people can't be counted on to voluntarily tip what they think is fair, then the establishment will start FORCING people to pay up by simply raising their prices.
And yes, I realize that that doesn't apply in all countries.
[QUOTE="Teenaged"]Just that I dont agree with people who find it inhumane/abnormal/ridiculous or what have you to not tip (now I am not sure if they also advocate tipping no matter the quality of the service).
MrGeezer
Of course you shouldn't tip (or you should tip poorly) if the service sucks. The tip IS payment for service. If you don't get good service, then you shouldn't pay for good service.
At the same time though, if you DO get good service, then you should pay for it. Someone who gets good service and then refuses to tip just because they are cheap, is abusing the system and ruining it for everyone else. If enough people can't be counted on to voluntarily tip what they think is fair, then the establishment will start FORCING people to pay up by simply raising their prices.
And yes, I realize that that doesn't apply in all countries.
I love abusing the system and saving money. Waiters and delivery drivers be damnedTypically I'd give $3 to $5 depending upon the amount ordered of course. I just consider it common courtesy for the service rendered and if I were so particular about needing to save money then I would just buy some frozen pizzas.
18 percent always unless they piss me off. I've tipped as low as nothing before (even on a big meal).
[QUOTE="jeremiah06"][QUOTE="Dark__Link"] Excuse me for being a decent person. I really hope you don't live in the US with a garbage attitude like that.Dark__LinkGet over yourself buddy! I never tip, I never will tip, and I'd laugh in the face of anyone looking at me expecting a tip. If they give me a dirty look... I'll flip a penny in their face... Get over myself? It's not about me. It's about being just a tad bit generous to make sure that people who make less than minimum wage can get by. If no one tipped, then restaurants would just charge more for their food, and then you'd be forced to throw in extra. So you're just a mooch who depends on other people's generosity in order to be cheap and degrading to the people who bring you your food.So either the pizza place forces you to pay more, or we're forced by people like you to pay more or otherwise be accused of despicable morals. I don't see what the issue is if either way leads to the same result.
[QUOTE="Dark__Link"][QUOTE="jeremiah06"] Get over yourself buddy! I never tip, I never will tip, and I'd laugh in the face of anyone looking at me expecting a tip. If they give me a dirty look... I'll flip a penny in their face...TeenagedGet over myself? It's not about me. It's about being just a tad bit generous to make sure that people who make less than minimum wage can get by. If no one tipped, then restaurants would just charge more for their food, and then you'd be forced to throw in extra. So you're just a mooch who depends on other people's generosity in order to be cheap and degrading to the people who bring you your food.WTH?
You effectively concede that the problem starts from the employers who dont pay a respectable wage and then you call the customers who dont compensate for that, mooches?
An amusing matter, is it not?Get over myself? It's not about me. It's about being just a tad bit generous to make sure that people who make less than minimum wage can get by. If no one tipped, then restaurants would just charge more for their food, and then you'd be forced to throw in extra. So you're just a mooch who depends on other people's generosity in order to be cheap and degrading to the people who bring you your food.So either the pizza place forces you to pay more, or we're forced by people like you to pay more or otherwise be accused of despicable morals. I don't see what the issue is if either way leads to the same result. It DOESN'T lead to the same result. I'm only accusing you of having "despicable morals" because you refuse to tip when the service is good. That's the key distinction. You can either be forced to pay higher prices, or you can use discretion to determine who deserves a tip and how much. Even if you tip people, that doesn't mean you always tip people. If the service is bad, then **** 'em, no tip. So you can either pay higher prices regardless of the quality of the service, or you can choose to tip based on that quality. The two scenarios are not the same.[QUOTE="Dark__Link"][QUOTE="jeremiah06"] Get over yourself buddy! I never tip, I never will tip, and I'd laugh in the face of anyone looking at me expecting a tip. If they give me a dirty look... I'll flip a penny in their face...Hexagon_777
[QUOTE="Hexagon_777"][QUOTE="Dark__Link"] Get over myself? It's not about me. It's about being just a tad bit generous to make sure that people who make less than minimum wage can get by. If no one tipped, then restaurants would just charge more for their food, and then you'd be forced to throw in extra. So you're just a mooch who depends on other people's generosity in order to be cheap and degrading to the people who bring you your food.Dark__LinkSo either the pizza place forces you to pay more, or we're forced by people like you to pay more or otherwise be accused of despicable morals. I don't see what the issue is if either way leads to the same result. It DOESN'T lead to the same result. I'm only accusing you of having "despicable morals" because you refuse to tip when the service is good. That's the key distinction. You can either be forced to pay higher prices, or you can use discretion to determine who deserves a tip and how much. Even if you tip people, that doesn't mean you always tip people. If the service is bad, then **** 'em, no tip. So you can either pay higher prices regardless of the quality of the service, or you can choose to tip based on that quality. The two scenarios are not the same.Pizza deliverymen bring pizza...to my door. The whole ordeal takes 20 seconds. I don't deem that enough time to give somebody a certain amount of money.
It DOESN'T lead to the same result. I'm only accusing you of having "despicable morals" because you refuse to tip when the service is good. That's the key distinction. You can either be forced to pay higher prices, or you can use discretion to determine who deserves a tip and how much. Even if you tip people, that doesn't mean you always tip people. If the service is bad, then **** 'em, no tip. So you can either pay higher prices regardless of the quality of the service, or you can choose to tip based on that quality. The two scenarios are not the same.Pizza deliverymen bring pizza...to my door. The whole ordeal takes 20 seconds. I don't deem that enough time to give somebody a certain amount of money. ....The pizza place is only 20 seconds from your house?[QUOTE="Dark__Link"][QUOTE="Hexagon_777"]So either the pizza place forces you to pay more, or we're forced by people like you to pay more or otherwise be accused of despicable morals. I don't see what the issue is if either way leads to the same result.Hexagon_777
[QUOTE="Hexagon_777"]Pizza deliverymen bring pizza...to my door. The whole ordeal takes 20 seconds. I don't deem that enough time to give somebody a certain amount of money. ....The pizza place is only 20 seconds from your house? If they are not getting paid enough to cover gas and wear and tear on the vehicle they are using than they should just be looking for a new job.[QUOTE="Dark__Link"] It DOESN'T lead to the same result. I'm only accusing you of having "despicable morals" because you refuse to tip when the service is good. That's the key distinction. You can either be forced to pay higher prices, or you can use discretion to determine who deserves a tip and how much. Even if you tip people, that doesn't mean you always tip people. If the service is bad, then **** 'em, no tip. So you can either pay higher prices regardless of the quality of the service, or you can choose to tip based on that quality. The two scenarios are not the same.Dark__Link
[QUOTE="Dark__Link"][QUOTE="Hexagon_777"]Pizza deliverymen bring pizza...to my door. The whole ordeal takes 20 seconds. I don't deem that enough time to give somebody a certain amount of money.....The pizza place is only 20 seconds from your house? If they are not getting paid enough to cover gas and wear and tear on the vehicle they are using than they should just be looking for a new job. Really? You should let them know, they probably had no idea.testfactor888
If they are not getting paid enough to cover gas and wear and tear on the vehicle they are using than they should just be looking for a new job. Really? You should let them know, they probably had no idea. You can spread the word about it. You apparently care about them alot more than I do[QUOTE="testfactor888"][QUOTE="Dark__Link"] ....The pizza place is only 20 seconds from your house?Dark__Link
[QUOTE="Dark__Link"]Really? You should let them know, they probably had no idea. You can spread the word about it. You apparently care about them alot more than I do No, no. You're the one who can't spare a tip. You should at least give them something. Career advice is perfect, with a nice pat on the shoulder to encourage them.[QUOTE="testfactor888"] If they are not getting paid enough to cover gas and wear and tear on the vehicle they are using than they should just be looking for a new job.testfactor888
[QUOTE="testfactor888"][QUOTE="Dark__Link"] Really? You should let them know, they probably had no idea.You can spread the word about it. You apparently care about them alot more than I do No, no. You're the one who can't spare a tip. You should at least give them something. Career advice is perfect, with a nice pat on the shoulder to encourage them. I don't want to give them anything at all which is the point in not tipping. I should not have to do anything and therefore I don't :)Dark__Link
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