Do you hate -W A R- and -R E L I G I O N- (especially Islam)?

[QUOTE="cloud3601"]

[QUOTE="mindstorm"]As a religious person I am not against science and am not a fan of war. However, I will admit to being fond of the word repent. Speaking of which, repent and such! mindstorm

your telling me to repent?

repent from what?? tell me, assuming orgnaised religion will take you to heaven, how do you know Chrstianity is the true religion over the other 10,000+ religions?

funny how people hate islam being backwards while we managed to save your asses in the dark ages....

punkpunker

Islam is definately a false religion.

It was founded bya man called Muhammad who admitted himself that he is a terrorist

"I am the Prophet of mercy and I am the Prophet of war"

"I am the smiling prophet, I am also the prophet that kills."
[Battlefields by Muhammad Hamidullah, who translated Sahifa Of Hammam bin Munabbih (worlds earliest authentic hadith book)]

I have been made victorious with terror. [Sahih Bukhari 4.52.220]

More proof Muhammad was a terrorist and mass murderer: he ordered 100+ military expeditions where he kidnapped women and childre, sold them into slavery, gave some to the Sahaba (his companions) to have sex with, and massacred entire jewish tribes e.t.c is found here

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_expeditions_of_Muhammad

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funny how people hate islam being backwards while we managed to save your asses in the dark ages....

cloud3601

Islam is definately a false religion.

It was founded bya man called Muhammad who admitted himself that he is a terrorist

"I am the Prophet of mercy and I am the Prophet of war"

"I am the smiling prophet, I am also the prophet that kills."
[Battlefields by Muhammad Hamidullah, who translated Sahifa Of Hammam bin Munabbih (worlds earliest authentic hadith book)]

I have been made victorious with terror. [Sahih Bukhari 4.52.220]

More proof Muhammad was a terrorist and mass murderer: he ordered 100+ military expeditions where he kidnapped women and childre, sold them into slavery, gave some to the Sahaba (his companions) to have sex with, and massacred entire jewish tribes e.t.c is found here

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_expeditions_of_Muhammad

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[QUOTE="punkpunker"]

funny how people hate islam being backwards while we managed to save your asses in the dark ages....

MAZ85

Islam is definately a false religion.

It was founded bya man called Muhammad who admitted himself that he is a terrorist

"I am the Prophet of mercy and I am the Prophet of war"

"I am the smiling prophet, I am also the prophet that kills."
[Battlefields by Muhammad Hamidullah, who translated Sahifa Of Hammam bin Munabbih (worlds earliest authentic hadith book)]

I have been made victorious with terror. [Sahih Bukhari 4.52.220]

More proof Muhammad was a terrorist and mass murderer: he ordered 100+ military expeditions where he kidnapped women and childre, sold them into slavery, gave some to the Sahaba (his companions) to have sex with, and massacred entire jewish tribes e.t.c is found here

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_expeditions_of_Muhammad

what are you going to do if i dont stop criticising your prophet?

OP is naive.

[QUOTE="MAZ85"] STOP SAYING LIES ABOUT OUR PROPHETLJS9502_basic

You don't get it...

Its a cultural thing.

You will get the sh!t kicked out of you if you called someone's mom a b!tch and joked about it. We insult each other and call ourselves bastards,b!tches, w/e like everyone else but you just don't joke about someone he deeply cares about; ex: like his family.

Its the fkin code and the way we see it, you westerns love to see everyone else cultural values crumble and accept yours... where not too much fuvk is given regarding anything.

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="MAZ85"] STOP SAYING LIES ABOUT OUR PROPHETTehFuneral

You don't get it...

Its a cultural thing.

You will get the sh!t kicked out of you if you called someone's mom a b!tch and joked about it. We insult each other and call ourselves bastards,b!tches, w/e like everyone else but you just don't joke about someone he deeply cares about; ex: like his family.

Its the fkin code and the way we see it, you westerns love to see everyone else cultural values crumble and accept yours... where not too much fuvk is given regarding anything.

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[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"] This is a problem. A prophet is a human. Who cares if someone insults him. I can see perhaps being offended if your god were insulted....though even then.....it's just opinion. But getting angry over a prophet? Way too extreme. Aren't you not supposed to worship others but your god?LJS9502_basic

You don't get it...

Its a cultural thing.

You will get the sh!t kicked out of you if you called someone's mom a b!tch and joked about it. We insult each other and call ourselves bastards,b!tches, w/e like everyone else but you just don't joke about someone he deeply cares about; ex: like his family.

Its the fkin code and the way we see it, you westerns love to see everyone else cultural values crumble and accept yours... where not too much fuvk is given regarding anything.

Hate speech creates anger and anger manifests itself disregarding of the consequences of the law, whats not so simple for you that you don't understand?

[QUOTE="TehFuneral"]

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"] This is a problem. A prophet is a human. Who cares if someone insults him. I can see perhaps being offended if your god were insulted....though even then.....it's just opinion. But getting angry over a prophet? Way too extreme. Aren't you not supposed to worship others but your god?LJS9502_basic

You don't get it...

Its a cultural thing.

You will get the sh!t kicked out of you if you called someone's mom a b!tch and joked about it. We insult each other and call ourselves bastards,b!tches, w/e like everyone else but you just don't joke about someone he deeply cares about; ex: like his family.

Its the fkin code and the way we see it, you westerns love to see everyone else cultural values crumble and accept yours... where not too much fuvk is given regarding anything.

To play devils advocate, a lot of the muslem world isnt in a state to appose, a people with no resource will always resort to terrorism.

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="TehFuneral"]

You don't get it...

Its a cultural thing.

You will get the sh!t kicked out of you if you called someone's mom a b!tch and joked about it. We insult each other and call ourselves bastards,b!tches, w/e like everyone else but you just don't joke about someone he deeply cares about; ex: like his family.

Its the fkin code and the way we see it, you westerns love to see everyone else cultural values crumble and accept yours... where not too much fuvk is given regarding anything.

TehFuneral

Hate speech creates anger and anger manifests itself disregarding of the consequences of the law, whats not so simple for you that you don't understand?

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[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]What are you on about? Is violence or law the right approach to other viewpoints? No. LJS9502_basic

Hate speech creates anger and anger manifests itself disregarding of the consequences of the law, whats not so simple for you that you don't understand?

If you're saying that accepting disrespect is part of progressing then I don't want that. I'm happy with not being disrespected thank you.

At least I know my hormones are working well.

and no I won't kill you for insulting someone I care about, but I will kick your ass.

You either don't say anything in the first place, or kick my ass instead.

Religion likely stops more wars than it makes and helps science greatly. I don't buy the whole "religion impedes science" malarky. Science is full of lies more than religion is anyway...theories presented as facts and such. Religion is at least backed up by human eyewitnesses.

Religion and beliefs are the cause of war so yes I hate religion.JohnF111

Religion likely stops more wars than it makes and helps science greatly. I don't buy the whole "religion impedes science" malarky. Science is full of lies more than religion is anyway...theories presented as facts and such. Religion is at least backed up by human eyewitnesses.

narlymech

Religion likely stops more wars than it makes and helps science greatly. I don't buy the whole "religion impedes science" malarky. Science is full of lies more than religion is anyway...theories presented as facts and such. Religion is at least backed up by human eyewitnesses.

narlymech

You know nothing of science, You sit behind a computer while ironically criticizing the very field that made such a thing possible. Nothing we know about science was learnt from scripture. The Bible is patently false on vast amounts of scientific claims.

But judging by your asinine comment this is likely going way over your head.

[QUOTE="JohnF111"]Religion and beliefs are the cause of war so yes I hate religion.narlymech

Yes bacause Jerusalem is such a great piece of land, Worth fighting over for over 2000 years.

[QUOTE="narlymech"]

Religion likely stops more wars than it makes and helps science greatly. I don't buy the whole "religion impedes science" malarky. Science is full of lies more than religion is anyway...theories presented as facts and such. Religion is at least backed up by human eyewitnesses.

You know nothing of science, You sit behind a computer while ironically criticizing the very field that made such a thing possible. Nothing we know about science was learnt from scripture. The Bible is patently false on vast amounts of scientific claims.

But judging by your asinine comment this is likely going way over your head.

[QUOTE="narlymech"]

Religion likely stops more wars than it makes and helps science greatly. I don't buy the whole "religion impedes science" malarky. Science is full of lies more than religion is anyway...theories presented as facts and such. Religion is at least backed up by human eyewitnesses.

You know nothing of science, You sit behind a computer while ironically criticizing the very field that made such a thing possible. Nothing we know about science was learnt from scripture. The Bible is patently false on vast amounts of scientific claims.

But judging by your asinine comment this is likely going way over your head.

I don't like either one. Organized religion in the modern world is silly. But I'm not a pacifist...if you attack my country my country has every right to bomb you back into the stone age. I'm against per-emptive wars.

You know nothing of science, You sit behind a computer while ironically criticizing the very field that made such a thing possible. Nothing we know about science was learnt from scripture. The Bible is patently false on vast amounts of scientific claims.

But judging by your asinine comment this is likely going way over your head.

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I hate food too because if you eat too much you get obese.

cloud3601

Straw man arguement !

Horrible analogy. A better analogy would be: "I hate poisonous food, because its poisonous"

Because even moderate religion is dangerous and anti progressive for society. Muslims for example pray 5 times a day, not all Muslims are violent, the moderate ones also pray 5 times a day, wasting 1-2 hours a day (thats how long it takes to pray Fajr, Zuhr, magrib and Esha prayers), studies have shown that the economy loses a lot because of the time wasted on prayes (i read this some time ago)

'Islamic' governance and society is pretty obviously not a good idea, but people having religious and philosophical convictions in themselves is not bad at all; it is unavoidable in fact. And it isn't like science could actually make people better. Science just provides more knowledge and technology for people use and abuse.

All region is to control the weak minded. And war is to make money, which is also used to control people.

[QUOTE="Hatiko"]

I hate food too because if you eat too much you get obese.

cloud3601

Straw man arguement !

Horrible analogy. A better analogy would be: "I hate poisonous food, because its poisonous"

Because even moderate religion is dangerous and anti progressive for society. Muslims for example pray 5 times a day, not all Muslims are violent, the moderate ones also pray 5 times a day, wasting 1-2 hours a day (thats how long it takes to pray Fajr, Zuhr, magrib and Esha prayers), studies have shown that the economy loses a lot because of the time wasted on prayes (i read this some time ago)

No, they pay the bills.

I don't like religion, but there is more of a danger to progress than religion. Materialism, money, consumerism, and egotism are far more detrimental.

Religion likely stops more wars than it makes and helps science greatly. I don't buy the whole "religion impedes science" malarky. Science is full of lies more than religion is anyway...theories presented as facts and such. Religion is at least backed up by human eyewitnesses.

narlymech

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[QUOTE="Hatiko"]

I hate food too because if you eat too much you get obese.

MAZ85

Straw man arguement !

Horrible analogy. A better analogy would be: "I hate poisonous food, because its poisonous"

Because even moderate religion is dangerous and anti progressive for society. Muslims for example pray 5 times a day, not all Muslims are violent, the moderate ones also pray 5 times a day, wasting 1-2 hours a day (thats how long it takes to pray Fajr, Zuhr, magrib and Esha prayers), studies have shown that the economy loses a lot because of the time wasted on prayes (i read this some time ago)

1) On friday Muslim men go to Jummah (friday prayers), which takes 1 hour (there are at least 10 rakats that need to be prayed), on top of this it takes Muslims about 10-20 mins to just get out of the mosque because of how full it is, after the Imam has led the prayer, he usually does a long prayer which lasts 10+mins = 1 hour minimum in total wasted

2) Fajr prayer=10 mins wasted, praying Fajr at mosque (which religious muslims do)=20 mins wasted

3) Zuhr Prayer=20 mins, praying at mosque = 45 mins 1 wasted

4) asr prayer=15mins, praying at mosque=25 mins wasted

5) magrib prayer=10 mins, praying at mosque=30 mins wasted

6) esha prayer=20 mins, praying at mosque=45 mins wasted.

In total 2 hours and 15 mins is wasted by moderate Muslims, and for religious muslims who go to mosque and pray, they waste at least 3 hours and 50 mins.

Furthermore, takin gaps to pray makes you stop concetrating from what you were doing/working on.

Such waste is terrible for the efficency of the society and economy !

[QUOTE="MAZ85"][QUOTE="cloud3601"]

Straw man arguement !

Horrible analogy. A better analogy would be: "I hate poisonous food, because its poisonous"

Because even moderate religion is dangerous and anti progressive for society. Muslims for example pray 5 times a day, not all Muslims are violent, the moderate ones also pray 5 times a day, wasting 1-2 hours a day (thats how long it takes to pray Fajr, Zuhr, magrib and Esha prayers), studies have shown that the economy loses a lot because of the time wasted on prayes (i read this some time ago)

cloud3601

1) On friday Muslim men go to Jummah (friday prayers), which takes 1 hour (there are at least 10 rakats that need to be prayed), on top of this it takes Muslims about 10-20 mins to just get out of the mosque because of how full it is, after the Imam has led the prayer, he usually does a long prayer which lasts 10+mins = 1 hour minimum in total wasted

2) Fajr prayer=10 mins wasted, praying Fajr at mosque (which religious muslims do)=20 mins wasted

3) Zuhr Prayer=20 mins, praying at mosque = 45 mins 1 wasted

4) asr prayer=15mins, praying at mosque=25 mins wasted

5) magrib prayer=10 mins, praying at mosque=30 mins wasted

6) esha prayer=20 mins, praying at mosque=45 mins wasted.

In total 2 hours and 15 mins is wasted by moderate Muslims, and for religious muslims who go to mosque and pray, they waste at least 3 hours and 50 mins.

Furthermore, takin gaps to pray makes you stop concetrating from what you were doing/working on.

Such waste is terrible for the efficency of the society and economy !

1- jummuah is 2 rakats only , must be done at mosque , its on weekend day in muslim countries

2- fajr 2 rakats =>4minutes prayer + 1 min ablution = 5min , can be done at home but preferably in a mosque

3-zuhr and asr which happen to be on work time : 4 rakats each +ablution =1+8+1+8=18minutes , done at work place

4-maghrib and isha : maghrib 1+6 min and isha same with zuhr and asr 9 min , can be done at home but preferably in a mosque

so you only "waste" 18 min at work , at that is in no way wasted, prayer is healthy , people even take smoke breaks longer than 18 min a day so don't bring this up again

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[QUOTE="MAZ85"] still spreading lies about islam ya little cvnt , ablution and prayer never take more than 10 minutes , 10*5=50 , 50 min a day max , not 2 hours , and only 2 prayers are done during 1st shift work time , and that is dhuhr and asr , 20 min break will hurt no boody , heck it will make you more productive . oh and wht the hell do you seem that you know more about islam that a regular non muslim guy ? care to respond ?MAZ85

1) On friday Muslim men go to Jummah (friday prayers), which takes 1 hour (there are at least 10 rakats that need to be prayed), on top of this it takes Muslims about 10-20 mins to just get out of the mosque because of how full it is, after the Imam has led the prayer, he usually does a long prayer which lasts 10+mins = 1 hour minimum in total wasted

2) Fajr prayer=10 mins wasted, praying Fajr at mosque (which religious muslims do)=20 mins wasted

3) Zuhr Prayer=20 mins, praying at mosque = 45 mins 1 wasted

4) asr prayer=15mins, praying at mosque=25 mins wasted

5) magrib prayer=10 mins, praying at mosque=30 mins wasted

6) esha prayer=20 mins, praying at mosque=45 mins wasted.

In total 2 hours and 15 mins is wasted by moderate Muslims, and for religious muslims who go to mosque and pray, they waste at least 3 hours and 50 mins.

Furthermore, takin gaps to pray makes you stop concetrating from what you were doing/working on.

Such waste is terrible for the efficency of the society and economy !

What if i do? You going to hunt me down and kill me in honour of your prophet?

Even wasting 1 second on praying is a waste.

Muhammad was truly a terrorist and there is so much evidence to back this up

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="TehFuneral"]

Hate speech creates anger and anger manifests itself disregarding of the consequences of the law, whats not so simple for you that you don't understand?

TehFuneral

If you're saying that accepting disrespect is part of progressing then I don't want that. I'm happy with not being disrespected thank you.

At least I know my hormones are working well.

and no I won't kill you for insulting someone I care about, but I will kick your ass.

You either don't say anything in the first place, or kick my ass instead.

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="TehFuneral"]

Hate speech creates anger and anger manifests itself disregarding of the consequences of the law, whats not so simple for you that you don't understand?

TehFuneral

If you're saying that accepting disrespect is part of progressing then I don't want that. I'm happy with not being disrespected thank you.

At least I know my hormones are working well.

and no I won't kill you for insulting someone I care about, but I will kick your ass.

You either don't say anything in the first place, or kick my ass instead.

[QUOTE="MAZ85"][QUOTE="cloud3601"]

1) On friday Muslim men go to Jummah (friday prayers), which takes 1 hour (there are at least 10 rakats that need to be prayed), on top of this it takes Muslims about 10-20 mins to just get out of the mosque because of how full it is, after the Imam has led the prayer, he usually does a long prayer which lasts 10+mins = 1 hour minimum in total wasted

2) Fajr prayer=10 mins wasted, praying Fajr at mosque (which religious muslims do)=20 mins wasted

3) Zuhr Prayer=20 mins, praying at mosque = 45 mins 1 wasted

4) asr prayer=15mins, praying at mosque=25 mins wasted

5) magrib prayer=10 mins, praying at mosque=30 mins wasted

6) esha prayer=20 mins, praying at mosque=45 mins wasted.

In total 2 hours and 15 mins is wasted by moderate Muslims, and for religious muslims who go to mosque and pray, they waste at least 3 hours and 50 mins.

Furthermore, takin gaps to pray makes you stop concetrating from what you were doing/working on.

Such waste is terrible for the efficency of the society and economy !

cloud3601

What if i do? You going to hunt me down and kill me in honour of your prophet?

Even wasting 1 second on praying is a waste.

Muhammad was truly a terrorist and there is so much evidence to back this up

[QUOTE="cloud3601"]

[QUOTE="MAZ85"] so don't bring this up againMAZ85

What if i do? You going to hunt me down and kill me in honour of your prophet?

Even wasting 1 second on praying is a waste.

Muhammad was truly a terrorist and there is so much evidence to back this up

"islam is a peaceful religion. muslims are peaceful, but dont criticse our prophet (who was a pedophile and a terrorist, but i wont admit the facts, even though he himself said he is a terrorist and a "prophet of war") because some of my muslim brothrs are not that peaceful, they will kill you"

thats whats your saying

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[QUOTE="MAZ85"] so don't bring this up againMAZ85

What if i do? You going to hunt me down and kill me in honour of your prophet?

Even wasting 1 second on praying is a waste.

Muhammad was truly a terrorist and there is so much evidence to back this up

actually a lot of scientific and technological progress has been made because of war. For instance GPS was developed by the navy, and quickclot (a thing that helps people's blood clot faster so that they don't bleed to death) was recently developed by the military and has now entered civilian use.

wasting 1-2 hours a day (thats how long it takes to pray Fajr, Zuhr, magrib and Esha prayers)MAZ85

[QUOTE="TehFuneral"]

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"] Then I suggest learning the adage sticks and stones....l4dak47

If you're saying that accepting disrespect is part of progressing then I don't want that. I'm happy with not being disrespected thank you.

At least I know my hormones are working well.

and no I won't kill you for insulting someone I care about, but I will kick your ass.

You either don't say anything in the first place, or kick my ass instead.

Good luck on trying to change the entire planet's human nature.

Why the fawk would you put islam in the title as if they're the only religion doing dumb sh1t? You had it right the first time by simply having religion in general...tocool340

I think because of the major religions Islam is the one most proactively doing awful things. You could get onto some other religions for maybe having some bad ideas and wacky followers, but they aren't bombing people or raiding embassies.

[QUOTE="l4dak47"][QUOTE="TehFuneral"]

If you're saying that accepting disrespect is part of progressing then I don't want that. I'm happy with not being disrespected thank you.

At least I know my hormones are working well.

and no I won't kill you for insulting someone I care about, but I will kick your ass.

You either don't say anything in the first place, or kick my ass instead.

TehFuneral

Good luck on trying to change the entire planet's human nature.

[QUOTE="TehFuneral"]

[QUOTE="l4dak47"] I had that same mentality.....at age 9, and then i grew the fvck up. You should do the same. l4dak47

Good luck on trying to change the entire planet's human nature.

[QUOTE="MAZ85"] wasting 1-2 hours a day (thats how long it takes to pray Fajr, Zuhr, magrib and Esha prayers)FMAB_GTO

[QUOTE="TehFuneral"]

[QUOTE="l4dak47"] I had that same mentality.....at age 9, and then i grew the fvck up. You should do the same. l4dak47

Good luck on trying to change the entire planet's human nature.

Go back call a black dude the N word and come back to me.