Do You Believe Jesus Christ Rose From The Dead? (Poll)

[QUOTE="blackregiment"]

[QUOTE="chessmaster1989"]

Let me just say, wherever it is in God's plans that allows innocents to be massacred in genocides like the one in Darfur, I can't see the reason.

chessmaster1989

You cannot blame God for the actions of fallen man. You cannot lay that charge on God. God give us a free will to choose obedience to His moral law or rebellion against it. Your example shows where rebellion and disobedience to God's moral law leads.

Sorry, but I don't accept that a benevolent and omnipotent (casting aside the self-contradictory nature of omnipotence) God would allow thousands upon thousands of innocents to suffer.

So then are you now advocating that God remove man's free will to live in disobedience to His moral law? Sure sounds like it.

[QUOTE="chessmaster1989"]

[QUOTE="blackregiment"]

You cannot blame God for the actions of fallen man. You cannot lay that charge on God. God give us a free will to choose obedience to His moral law or rebellion against it. Your example shows where rebellion and disobedience to God's moral law leads.

blackregiment

Sorry, but I don't accept that a benevolent and omnipotent (casting aside the self-contradictory nature of omnipotence) God would allow thousands upon thousands of innocents to suffer.

So then are you now advocating that God remove man's free will to live in disobedience to His moral law? Sure sounds like it.

When did I ever say that? Stop putting words in my mouth.

He's God. He could uproot people suffering and place them in better conditions if he really wanted to. Of course, he would ask them first, to make sure he wasn't "overruling their free will to live under miserable conditions" :roll:.

[QUOTE="chessmaster1989"]

[QUOTE="blackregiment"]

You cannot blame God for the actions of fallen man. You cannot lay that charge on God. God give us a free will to choose obedience to His moral law or rebellion against it. Your example shows where rebellion and disobedience to God's moral law leads.

blackregiment

Sorry, but I don't accept that a benevolent and omnipotent (casting aside the self-contradictory nature of omnipotence) God would allow thousands upon thousands of innocents to suffer.

So then are you now advocating that God remove man's free will to live in disobedience to His moral law? Sure sounds like it.

Y'know, that doesn't sound like such a bad idea. Why doesn't god just get rid of all free will so we can live in peace and harmony?

Seems to make a lot of sense to me.

[QUOTE="blackregiment"]

You cannot blame God for the actions of fallen man. You cannot lay that charge on God. God give us a free will to choose obedience to His moral law or rebellion against it. Your example shows where rebellion and disobedience to God's moral law leads.

RadBooley

Sure I can! If he's so benevolent and loving, why doesn't he do something about it?

What's the point of there even being a god if he just lets his creations beat the everloving crap out of each other? Some father he is.

So you too are advocating that God should remove man's free will to choose to live in disobedience to His moral law? Interesting.

[QUOTE="RadBooley"]

[QUOTE="blackregiment"]

You cannot blame God for the actions of fallen man. You cannot lay that charge on God. God give us a free will to choose obedience to His moral law or rebellion against it. Your example shows where rebellion and disobedience to God's moral law leads.

blackregiment

Sure I can! If he's so benevolent and loving, why doesn't he do something about it?

What's the point of there even being a god if he just lets his creations beat the everloving crap out of each other? Some father he is.

So you too are advocating that God should remove man's free will to choose to live in disobedience to His moral law? Interesting.

there is no free will, god is all knowing, he knows the future, he knows the decisions non-christians will make, and they will go to hell, thats unfair

So you too are advocating that God should remove man's free will to choose to live in disobedience to His moral law? Interesting.

blackregiment

[QUOTE="RadBooley"]

[QUOTE="blackregiment"]

You cannot blame God for the actions of fallen man. You cannot lay that charge on God. God give us a free will to choose obedience to His moral law or rebellion against it. Your example shows where rebellion and disobedience to God's moral law leads.

Sure I can! If he's so benevolent and loving, why doesn't he do something about it?

What's the point of there even being a god if he just lets his creations beat the everloving crap out of each other? Some father he is.

So you too are advocating that God should remove man's free will to choose to live in disobedience to His moral law? Interesting.

[QUOTE="blackregiment"]

[QUOTE="chessmaster1989"]

Sorry, but I don't accept that a benevolent and omnipotent (casting aside the self-contradictory nature of omnipotence) God would allow thousands upon thousands of innocents to suffer.

RadBooley

So then are you now advocating that God remove man's free will to live in disobedience to His moral law? Sure sounds like it.

Y'know, that doesn't sound like such a bad idea. Why doesn't god just get rid of all free will so we can live in peace and harmony?

Seems to make a lot of sense to me.

There are several reasons. First, God does not want robots. He wants us to love and obey Him of our own free will. True love cannot exist without the freedom to not love. In addition, you are thinking in temporal terms, God thinks in eternal terms. This earth we live on is temporary. Our time here is but a wisp of smoke compared to eternity. Our purpose in this life is to know God, obey Him, and draw closer to Him in righteousness, of our own free will. You may think it would be good for God to remove our free will, but there are those don't. If it is such a concern that pain and suffering be eliminated in this world and to accomplish this, God should remove our free will to disobey His moral law, it begs the question why then, don't those that feel that way, submit in obedience to the Lord of their own free will right now?

[QUOTE="RadBooley"]

[QUOTE="blackregiment"]

So then are you now advocating that God remove man's free will to live in disobedience to His moral law? Sure sounds like it.

blackregiment

Y'know, that doesn't sound like such a bad idea. Why doesn't god just get rid of all free will so we can live in peace and harmony?

Seems to make a lot of sense to me.

There are several reasons. First, God does not want robots. He wants us to love and obey Him of our own free will. True love cannot exist without the freedom to not love. In addition, you are thinking in temporal terms, God thinks in eternal terms. This earth we live on is temporary. Our time here is but a wisp of smoke compared to eternity. Our purpose in this life is to know God, obey Him, and draw closer to Him in righteousness, of our own free will. You may think it would be good for God to remove our free will, but there are those don't. If it is such a concern that pain and suffering be eliminated in this world and to accomplish this, God should remove our free will to disobey His moral law, it begs the question why then, don't those that feel that way, submit in obedience to the Lord of their own free will right now?

Which, of course, begs the question of why God punishes finite crimes with infinite punishment.

[QUOTE="blackregiment"]

So you too are advocating that God should remove man's free will to choose to live in disobedience to His moral law? Interesting.

Genetic_Code

And don't put words in my mouth either. I didn't say that he said that "God wants man to live in disobedience". Where are you coming up with this stuff? :o

[QUOTE="blackregiment"]

So you too are advocating that God should remove man's free will to choose to live in disobedience to His moral law? Interesting.

The_Versatile

This is true. If there are consequences for our choices, then it is not free will, but a test to see what we choose.

[QUOTE="Rikardur"]And Frodo managed to stop Sauron (who did exist) by tossing the one ring into Mt. Doom (which he did).

Crushmaster

BS, Mount Doom and Frodo WERE REAL. So were Gandalf and Saruman.

Their existences were confirmed in the Lord Of The Rings.

And don't put words in my mouth either. I didn't say that he said that "God wants man to live in disobedience". Where are you coming up with this stuff? :o

blackregiment

[QUOTE="chessmaster1989"]

Sorry, but I don't accept that a benevolent and omnipotent (casting aside the self-contradictory nature of omnipotence) God would allow thousands upon thousands of innocents to suffer. blackregiment

So then are you now advocating that God remove man's free will to live in disobedience to His moral law? Sure sounds like it.

I would like to ask the exact same question of you, BR.

[QUOTE="blackregiment"]

[QUOTE="RadBooley"]

Y'know, that doesn't sound like such a bad idea. Why doesn't god just get rid of all free will so we can live in peace and harmony?

Seems to make a lot of sense to me.

chessmaster1989

There are several reasons. First, God does not want robots. He wants us to love and obey Him of our own free will. True love cannot exist without the freedom to not love. In addition, you are thinking in temporal terms, God thinks in eternal terms. This earth we live on is temporary. Our time here is but a wisp of smoke compared to eternity. Our purpose in this life is to know God, obey Him, and draw closer to Him in righteousness, of our own free will. You may think it would be good for God to remove our free will, but there are those don't. If it is such a concern that pain and suffering be eliminated in this world and to accomplish this, God should remove our free will to disobey His moral law, it begs the question why then, don't those that feel that way, submit in obedience to the Lord of their own free will right now?

Which, of course, begs the question of why God punishes finite crimes with infinite punishment.

All sin is against God and is infinite, it remains until forgiven in Christ. The price for sin must be paid. The price is eternal separation from God. A just and holy God cannot allow sin into His presence in eternity. Therefore man is eternally separated from God by our sin. That is why Christ died. He bore the sins of those that repent and place their faith and trust in Him. He paid the price Himself for our sin so that we can be counted righteous in God's eyes and be eternally reunited with Him.

[QUOTE="Genetic_Code"][QUOTE="blackregiment"]

So you too are advocating that God should remove man's free will to choose to live in disobedience to His moral law? Interesting.

blackregiment

And don't put words in my mouth either. I didn't say that he said that "God wants man to live in disobedience". Where are you coming up with this stuff? :o

[QUOTE="chessmaster1989"]

[QUOTE="blackregiment"]

There are several reasons. First, God does not want robots. He wants us to love and obey Him of our own free will. True love cannot exist without the freedom to not love. In addition, you are thinking in temporal terms, God thinks in eternal terms. This earth we live on is temporary. Our time here is but a wisp of smoke compared to eternity. Our purpose in this life is to know God, obey Him, and draw closer to Him in righteousness, of our own free will. You may think it would be good for God to remove our free will, but there are those don't. If it is such a concern that pain and suffering be eliminated in this world and to accomplish this, God should remove our free will to disobey His moral law, it begs the question why then, don't those that feel that way, submit in obedience to the Lord of their own free will right now?

blackregiment

Which, of course, begs the question of why God punishes finite crimes with infinite punishment.

All sin is against God and is infinite, it remains until forgiven in Christ. The price for sin must be paid. The price is eternal separation from God. A just and holy God cannot allow sin into His presence in eternity. Therefore man is eternally separated from God by our sin. That is why Christ died. He bore the sins of those that repent and place their faith and trust in Him. He paid the price Himself for our sin so that we can be counted righteous in God's eyes and be eternally reunited with Him.

Here's a stupid question-- why can't god just have another son? :?

chessmaster1989,

You need to fix your post, You have things attributed to me that I did not write. That being said, I will try to explain it again. You brought up the pain and suffering in the world and seem to expect God to "fix it", make it "go away". I stated that in order for that to happen, God would have to remove our free will to choose to disobey Him. Sin is caused by disobedience to God's moral law. God won't do that because He wants us to obey and love Him of our own free will. True love can only exist if we have a free will to choose not to love. As long as man has a free will, there will be those that choose to disobey God and therefore there will be sin, pain, and suffering in the world. You may want that but there are those that don't as evidenced by those that choose right now to live in disobedience to His moral law.

God has already provided a way to reduce sin, pain, and suffering in this world, it is called coming to Christ, serving Him, and living in obedience to Him.

chessmaster1989,

You need to fix your post, You have things attributed to me that I did not write. That being said, I will try to explain it again. You brought up the pain and suffering in the world and seem to expect God to "fix it", make it "go away". I stated that in order for that to happen, God would have to remove our free will to choose to disobey Him. Sin is caused by disobedience to God's moral law. God won't do that because He wants us to obey and love Him of our own free will. True love can only exist if we have a free will to choose not to love. As long as man has a free will, there will be those that choose to disobey God and therefore there will be sin, pain, and suffering in the world. You may want that but there are those that don't as evidenced by those that choose right now to live in disobedience to His moral law.

God has already provided a way to reduce sin, pain, and suffering in this world, it is called coming to Christ, serving Him, and living in obedience to Him.

blackregiment

For such an all-powerful being, god certainly seems a tad insecure.

What difference should it make if we love him or not?

[QUOTE="blackregiment"]

[QUOTE="chessmaster1989"]

Which, of course, begs the question of why God punishes finite crimes with infinite punishment.

RadBooley

All sin is against God and is infinite, it remains until forgiven in Christ. The price for sin must be paid. The price is eternal separation from God. A just and holy God cannot allow sin into His presence in eternity. Therefore man is eternally separated from God by our sin. That is why Christ died. He bore the sins of those that repent and place their faith and trust in Him. He paid the price Himself for our sin so that we can be counted righteous in God's eyes and be eternally reunited with Him.

Here's a stupid question-- why can't god just have another son? :?

For what purpose? Christ died once for the sins of all that repent and accept Him. His finished work on the cross is sufficient.

[QUOTE="blackregiment"]

chessmaster1989,

You need to fix your post, You have things attributed to me that I did not write. That being said, I will try to explain it again. You brought up the pain and suffering in the world and seem to expect God to "fix it", make it "go away". I stated that in order for that to happen, God would have to remove our free will to choose to disobey Him. Sin is caused by disobedience to God's moral law. God won't do that because He wants us to obey and love Him of our own free will. True love can only exist if we have a free will to choose not to love. As long as man has a free will, there will be those that choose to disobey God and therefore there will be sin, pain, and suffering in the world. You may want that but there are those that don't as evidenced by those that choose right now to live in disobedience to His moral law.

God has already provided a way to reduce sin, pain, and suffering in this world, it is called coming to Christ, serving Him, and living in obedience to Him.

RadBooley

For such an all-powerful being, god certainly seems a tad insecure.

What difference should it make if we love him or not?

So do you think that we should not love God and be thankful for His many blessings, especially His plan of redemption in Christ? Christ died for us while we were yet sinners so that we can live. Do you think God should just let us live in sin and rebellion to him and then reward us for that? We show our love for God in obedience to Him. That is the love God wants from us. Obedience and gratitude.

chessmaster1989,

You need to fix your post, You have things attributed to me that I did not write. That being said, I will try to explain it again. You brought up the pain and suffering in the world and seem to expect God to "fix it", make it "go away". I stated that in order for that to happen, God would have to remove our free will to choose to disobey Him. Sin is caused by disobedience to God's moral law. God won't do that because He wants us to obey and love Him of our own free will. True love can only exist if we have a free will to choose not to love. As long as man has a free will, there will be those that choose to disobey God and therefore there will be sin, pain, and suffering in the world. You may want that but there are those that don't as evidenced by those that choose right now to live in disobedience to His moral law.

God has already provided a way to reduce sin, pain, and suffering in this world, it is called coming to Christ, serving Him, and living in obedience to Him.

blackregiment

I fixed that post. Just accidentally attributed your quote to me and my quote to you ;).

But, anyway, you missed my point. I argued that there is no reason for God to allow a group of people that is suffering from persecution, to continue suffering. The problem, say, of a dictator systematically murdering a group of people can be solved by moving members of that group (with their permission) to another location. This in no way affects the dictator's free will, since he has not altered the dictator's willingness to inflict harms upon the group.

And, if God exists and thinks that allowing a person to do what he wants by killing thousands of innocents, is more important than preventing the murder of those thousands, then I have absolutely no respect for that God.

[QUOTE="blackregiment"]

[QUOTE="Genetic_Code"] Don't put words in his mouth. He didn't say anything about God wanting man to live in disobedience, but rather the opposite, which was of God to prevent man from doing wrong.Genetic_Code

And don't put words in my mouth either. I didn't say that he said that "God wants man to live in disobedience". Where are you coming up with this stuff? :o

Perhaps you will be kind enough to show me exactly where I wrote that ""God wants man to live in disobedience". I think you will be hard pressed to do that without some esoteric eisogesis.

God want man to live in obedience to Him but gives us a free will to choose to or not to.

Here is but a few of many verses that teach that.

Luk 6:46 And why call ye me, Lord, Lord, and do not the things which I say?

Joh 14:15 If ye love me, keep my commandments.

Rev 14:12 Here is the patience of the saints: here are they that keep the commandments of God, and the faith of Jesus.

[QUOTE="RadBooley"]

[QUOTE="blackregiment"]

chessmaster1989,

You need to fix your post, You have things attributed to me that I did not write. That being said, I will try to explain it again. You brought up the pain and suffering in the world and seem to expect God to "fix it", make it "go away". I stated that in order for that to happen, God would have to remove our free will to choose to disobey Him. Sin is caused by disobedience to God's moral law. God won't do that because He wants us to obey and love Him of our own free will. True love can only exist if we have a free will to choose not to love. As long as man has a free will, there will be those that choose to disobey God and therefore there will be sin, pain, and suffering in the world. You may want that but there are those that don't as evidenced by those that choose right now to live in disobedience to His moral law.

God has already provided a way to reduce sin, pain, and suffering in this world, it is called coming to Christ, serving Him, and living in obedience to Him.

blackregiment

For such an all-powerful being, god certainly seems a tad insecure.

What difference should it make if we love him or not?

So do you think that we should not love God and be thankful for His many blessings, especially His plan of redemption in Christ? Christ died for us while we were yet sinners so that we can live. Do you think God should just let us live in sin and rebellion to him and then reward us for that? We show our love for God in obedience to Him. That is the love God wants from us. Obedience and gratitude.

I think it'd be nice if god made his existance known with real evidence. Why doesn't he just stop by now and then? What's the point of visiting once thousands of years ago? What was so special about that time? Surely he would have foreseen that visiting then and writing the Bible at that time would result in skepticism.

I'm sure the answer will be, that's the point, we're not supposed to be sure, and we love him anyway based on faith.

But geeze, that can be applied to anything and any other diety. Which brings me back to, why is Christianity more valid than all the other religions out there?!

[QUOTE="blackregiment"]

chessmaster1989,

You need to fix your post, You have things attributed to me that I did not write. That being said, I will try to explain it again. You brought up the pain and suffering in the world and seem to expect God to "fix it", make it "go away". I stated that in order for that to happen, God would have to remove our free will to choose to disobey Him. Sin is caused by disobedience to God's moral law. God won't do that because He wants us to obey and love Him of our own free will. True love can only exist if we have a free will to choose not to love. As long as man has a free will, there will be those that choose to disobey God and therefore there will be sin, pain, and suffering in the world. You may want that but there are those that don't as evidenced by those that choose right now to live in disobedience to His moral law.

God has already provided a way to reduce sin, pain, and suffering in this world, it is called coming to Christ, serving Him, and living in obedience to Him.

chessmaster1989

I fixed that post. Just accidentally attributed your quote to me and my quote to you ;).

But, anyway, you missed my point. I argued that there is no reason for God to allow a group of people that is suffering from persecution, to continue suffering. The problem, say, of a dictator systematically murdering a group of people can be solved by moving members of that group (with their permission) to another location. This in no way affects the dictator's free will, since he has not altered the dictator's willingness to inflict harms upon the group.

And, if God exists and thinks that allowing a person to do what he wants by killing thousands of innocents, is more important than preventing the murder of those thousands, then I have absolutely no respect for that God.

No, you are missing my point. God is not an emergency swat team, ready to rush in and solve all of the problems in this world cause by rebellion to Him. Eternity with God is paradise, this world is temporary and full of sin, pain, and suffering. God thinks in eternal terms. If you want pain and suffering to be reduced in this world, then you might consider accepting Christ and becoming a missionary. The only way pain and suffering in this world will end is if everyone truly comes to Christ.

Well I have to go it is late. I'll try to answer the other questions later. God bless

[QUOTE="-Sun_Tzu-"]I'm not rejecting its accuracy (although I do not believe it to be as accurate as you claim), I'm saying that just because it was inspired by God that doesn't mean that it is infallible. Anything written by man is susceptible to error. Crushmaster

For such an all-powerful being, god certainly seems a tad insecure.RadBooley

If you really look into it, the bible actually contradicts itself a lot. And no. I dont believe Jesus Christ rose from the dead. I believe that hewas a good and kind person and lived his lifetrying to help others, but a person with special powers and that is NOTW(not of this world) I think not.

Hard for someone to rise from the dead when they didn't exist....BlackStalker

Meh, who cares? I'm more worried about bioshock 2's release date. Even if jesus was real person, why would you devote your life to him when there are so much better, constructive things to do with one's life, like volunteering in africa. Religion doesn't make people better-off, knowledge does, and the credibility of the bible is too little too late, so there!

[QUOTE="blackregiment"]

[QUOTE="RadBooley"]

For such an all-powerful being, god certainly seems a tad insecure.

What difference should it make if we love him or not?

RadBooley

So do you think that we should not love God and be thankful for His many blessings, especially His plan of redemption in Christ? Christ died for us while we were yet sinners so that we can live. Do you think God should just let us live in sin and rebellion to him and then reward us for that? We show our love for God in obedience to Him. That is the love God wants from us. Obedience and gratitude.

I think it'd be nice if god made his existance known with real evidence. Why doesn't he just stop by now and then? What's the point of visiting once thousands of years ago? What was so special about that time? Surely he would have foreseen that visiting then and writing the Bible at that time would result in skepticism.

I'm sure the answer will be, that's the point, we're not supposed to be sure, and we love him anyway based on faith.

But geeze, that can be applied to anything and any other diety. Which brings me back to, why is Christianity more valid than all the other religions out there?!

Here are three links that will help answer your question. I hope you find them useful.

http://www.gotquestions.org/correct-religion.html

http://www.gotquestions.org/so-many-religions.html

http://www.gotquestions.org/Christianity-unique.html

[QUOTE="Crushmaster"]

[QUOTE="-Sun_Tzu-"]I'm not rejecting its accuracy (although I do not believe it to be as accurate as you claim), I'm saying that just because it was inspired by God that doesn't mean that it is infallible. Anything written by man is susceptible to error. -Sun_Tzu-

The Word of God says differently.

Rom 10:8 But what saith it? The word is nigh thee, even in thy mouth, and in thy heart: that is, the word of faith, which we preach;
Rom 10:9 That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved.
Rom 10:10 For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation.

It also tells us.

Psa 118:8 It is better to trust in the LORD than to put confidence in man.

Meh, who cares? I'm more worried about bioshock 2's release date. Even if jesus was real person, why would you devote your life to him when there are so much better, constructive things to do with one's life, like volunteering in africa. Religion doesn't make people better-off, knowledge does, and the credibility of the bible is too little too late, so there!

n_kors

You seem to think that serving the Lord and helping others are mutually exclusive. It is not. Helping those less fortunate is one of the fruits of salvation in Christ. The many, many, missionaries that have gone forth to virtually every country in the world to help others and share the Gospel, are evidence of that.

[QUOTE="-Sun_Tzu-"]

[QUOTE="Crushmaster"]
You believe the New Testament is inspired by God? Why don't you believe Jesus was the Christ, then, and that He rose from the dead?
Or am I misunderstanding something?

blackregiment

The Word of God says differently.

Rom 10:8 But what saith it? The word is nigh thee, even in thy mouth, and in thy heart: that is, the word of faith, which we preach;
Rom 10:9 That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved.
Rom 10:10 For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation.

It also tells us.

Psa 118:8 It is better to trust in the LORD than to put confidence in man.

Do you believe in unicorns?

Do you believe in unicorns?

greenleaflink

No. Do you believe that everything was created by nothing and that life sprang forth from non-life?

[QUOTE="greenleaflink"]

Do you believe in unicorns?

blackregiment

No. Do you believe that everything was created by nothing and that life sprang forth from non-life?

[QUOTE="blackregiment"]

[QUOTE="-Sun_Tzu-"] No, I am saying that one does not have to believe in a bodily resurrection of Christ to be a Christian.

-Sun_Tzu-

The Word of God says differently.

Rom 10:8 But what saith it? The word is nigh thee, even in thy mouth, and in thy heart: that is, the word of faith, which we preach;
Rom 10:9 That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved.
Rom 10:10 For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation.

It also tells us.

Psa 118:8 It is better to trust in the LORD than to put confidence in man.

I know we have been through this before but you mentioned it again. The authors of the New Testament wrote the books of the Bible under th inspiration of the Holy Spirit. Maybe your definition of god precludes the all-powerful Creator of the universe and everything in it from using fallible man to record His Word infallibly under divine inspiration, but that is not the God of the Bible, the one true God. The entire Bible records how God has used fallible man to work His perfect plan, here on earth.

[QUOTE="-Sun_Tzu-"]

[QUOTE="blackregiment"]

The Word of God says differently.

Rom 10:8 But what saith it? The word is nigh thee, even in thy mouth, and in thy heart: that is, the word of faith, which we preach;
Rom 10:9 That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved.
Rom 10:10 For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation.

It also tells us.

Psa 118:8 It is better to trust in the LORD than to put confidence in man.

blackregiment

I know we have been through this before but you mentioned it again. The authors of the New Testament wrote the books of the Bible under th inspiration of the Holy Spirit. Maybe your definition of god precludes the all-powerful Creator of the universe and everything in it from using fallible man to record His Word infallibly under divine inspiration, but that is not the God of the Bible, the one true God. The entire Bible records how God has used fallible man to work His perfect plan, here on earth.

[QUOTE="blackregiment"]

[QUOTE="-Sun_Tzu-"] We've already been through this. Regardless if the bible was inspired by God or not, it was still written by man, and it is therefore susceptible to human error. Man is incapable of perfection; only if it were written by God himself would it be rational to look at the bible as infallible.

-Sun_Tzu-

I know we have been through this before but you mentioned it again. The authors of the New Testament wrote the books of the Bible under th inspiration of the Holy Spirit. Maybe your definition of god precludes the all-powerful Creator of the universe and everything in it from using fallible man to record His Word infallibly under divine inspiration, but that is not the God of the Bible, the one true God. The entire Bible records how God has used fallible man to work His perfect plan, here on earth.

[QUOTE="blackregiment"]

[QUOTE="greenleaflink"]

Do you believe in unicorns?

-Sun_Tzu-

No. Do you believe that everything was created by nothing and that life sprang forth from non-life?

The big ban theory speculates that a singularity that occupied no place in space or time, therefore relative to our universe nothing since space and time did not exist, expanded into everything that exists. You can call it anything you want but nothing is the best description.

The theory of evolution conveniently avoids the origin of life because it has no answer how life allegedly sprang forth from non-life in violation of natural laws. The fast of the matter is, no life, not life to evolve.

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[QUOTE="blackregiment"]

So do you think that we should not love God and be thankful for His many blessings, especially His plan of redemption in Christ? Christ died for us while we were yet sinners so that we can live. Do you think God should just let us live in sin and rebellion to him and then reward us for that? We show our love for God in obedience to Him. That is the love God wants from us. Obedience and gratitude.

blackregiment

I think it'd be nice if god made his existance known with real evidence. Why doesn't he just stop by now and then? What's the point of visiting once thousands of years ago? What was so special about that time? Surely he would have foreseen that visiting then and writing the Bible at that time would result in skepticism.

I'm sure the answer will be, that's the point, we're not supposed to be sure, and we love him anyway based on faith.

But geeze, that can be applied to anything and any other diety. Which brings me back to, why is Christianity more valid than all the other religions out there?!

Here are three links that will help answer your question. I hope you find them useful.

http://www.gotquestions.org/correct-religion.html

http://www.gotquestions.org/so-many-religions.html

http://www.gotquestions.org/Christianity-unique.html

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[QUOTE="-Sun_Tzu-"] We've already been through this. Regardless if the bible was inspired by God or not, it was still written by man, and it is therefore susceptible to human error. Man is incapable of perfection; only if it were written by God himself would it be rational to look at the bible as infallible.

-Sun_Tzu-

I know we have been through this before but you mentioned it again. The authors of the New Testament wrote the books of the Bible under th inspiration of the Holy Spirit. Maybe your definition of god precludes the all-powerful Creator of the universe and everything in it from using fallible man to record His Word infallibly under divine inspiration, but that is not the God of the Bible, the one true God. The entire Bible records how God has used fallible man to work His perfect plan, here on earth.

The Bible does not contradict itself. A valid contradiction exists only when there is no reasonable explanation for an alleged contradiction. I realize that there are athesit web sites that publish lists of alleged contradictions. They have all been answered, If you research the issue you will find the answers to the llegec contradictions. Let me state in advaqnce, if you now choose to visit these sites, and start poting these alleged contradictions, I am not going to take the time to write out long answers for each one. They have all been answered.

In fact, the consistency of the message of Christ in the Bible is evidence of its divine inspiration.

The Bible is composed of 66 separate books, written over approximately 1,600 years, by at least 40 distinct authors, from all walks of life, written in three different languages, Hebrew, Aramaic, and Greek, on three different continents, all in perfect agreement and revealing a consistent message, the path to salvation in Jesus Christ. The Old Testament contains 39 books written from approximately 1500 to 400 BC, and the New Testament contains 27 books written from approximately 40 to 65 AD.

There is no other book that has ever come close to this remarkable achievement and wisdom. Anyone that reads and studies it and cannot see the inspiration and work of God in the Bible just doesn't want to. Try getting 40 people in the same room or on the same internet thread to agree on something and it will be clear that the Bible is God's inspired, inerrant, and preserved Word. Anyone can pick a verse out of the Bible and try to discredit it but when one openly and honestly looks at all of the evidence for the truth of the Bible in its entirety, only one that chooses to remain in rebellion to the Lord will reject it. It has been said, even by secular psychologists, that if one studies the Sermon on the Mount, in the 5th, 6th, and 7th chapters of Matthew, the excellence of the wisdom, guidance, and life lessons of the words and teachings of Jesus in just those verses, surpasses the totality of all advice ever written in the history of man by all psychologists and sociologists that ever lived.Many concede that if all the advice ever written by those experts were condensed down, into one document, the wisdom for living in Jesus' teachings would dwarf them in significance. This is overwhelming evidence for the divine inspiration and truth of the Bible as well as the divinity of Christ.

In the Old Testament

The books of Law reveal the foundation for Christ the Messiah

The historical books reveal the preparation for Christ the Messiah

The poetic books aspire to Christ the Messiah

The books of prophecy reveal the expectation of Christ the Messiah

In the New Testament

The Gospels reveal the historical manifestation of Christ the Messiah

The Acts reveal the propagation of Christ the messiah

The Epistles reveal the interpretation of Christ the Messiah

Revelation reveals the consummation of all things in Christ the Messiah

God has not revealed His entire plan and everything regarding the natural world to man. Man could not possibly comprehend it with our finite mind. He has revealed what He, as our Creator, wants us to know.

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[QUOTE="RadBooley"]

I think it'd be nice if god made his existance known with real evidence. Why doesn't he just stop by now and then? What's the point of visiting once thousands of years ago? What was so special about that time? Surely he would have foreseen that visiting then and writing the Bible at that time would result in skepticism.

I'm sure the answer will be, that's the point, we're not supposed to be sure, and we love him anyway based on faith.

But geeze, that can be applied to anything and any other diety. Which brings me back to, why is Christianity more valid than all the other religions out there?!

MFaraz_Hayat

Here are three links that will help answer your question. I hope you find them useful.

http://www.gotquestions.org/correct-religion.html

http://www.gotquestions.org/so-many-religions.html

http://www.gotquestions.org/Christianity-unique.html

That is an oversimplification of the content of those articles. There is far more material there than just Bible verses. Anyone that reads them will see that.