so I just played 5 different fighting games on the Saturn back to back

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#201 nameless12345
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[QUOTE="bultje112"]

lol, you again and your internet pictures :roll: I actually have vf2 on my saturn and it doesn't look anything like that up close

Darkman2007

Waiting for your "direct feed" shots...

don't know about the game looking totally differrent , but those pictures you posted are of a poor quality and the game does look better than that , especially with a good cable. heck , even my old capture device did a better job.

and these were taken with a composite output (simply because this capture card didn't have RGB) , the game looks quite a bit better (at least the colours and sharpness) with S-video or RGB.

Yeah, looks nice.

But would you say it looks better than the arcade one?

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#202 Darkman2007
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[QUOTE="Darkman2007"]

[QUOTE="nameless12345"]

Waiting for your "direct feed" shots...

nameless12345

don't know about the game looking totally differrent , but those pictures you posted are of a poor quality and the game does look better than that , especially with a good cable. heck , even my old capture device did a better job.

and these were taken with a composite output (simply because this capture card didn't have RGB) , the game looks quite a bit better (at least the colours and sharpness) with S-video or RGB.

Yeah, looks nice.

But would you say it looks better than the arcade one?

of course not, the only thing the Saturn does better is the resolution , its higher, but apart from that , the arcade wins the character models are smoother and better, it has better textures, and the 3D backgrounds.

VF2 is like the SNES version of MK2 , a great port for its time given the hardware, but obviously not as good as the arcade original.

of course, I would say DOA, Last Bronx , Zero Divide and maybe even Anarchy in the Nippon , look better than VF2, but they are also later games.

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#203 rilpas
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[QUOTE="nameless12345"]

[QUOTE="Darkman2007"]

don't know about the game looking totally differrent , but those pictures you posted are of a poor quality and the game does look better than that , especially with a good cable. heck , even my old capture device did a better job.

and these were taken with a composite output (simply because this capture card didn't have RGB) , the game looks quite a bit better (at least the colours and sharpness) with S-video or RGB.

Darkman2007

Yeah, looks nice.

But would you say it looks better than the arcade one?

of course not, the only thing the Saturn does better is the resolution , its higher, but apart from that , the arcade wins the character models are smoother and better, it has better textures, and the 3D backgrounds.

VF2 is like the SNES version of MK2 , a great port for its time given the hardware, but obviously not as good as the arcade original.

of course, I would say DOA, Last Bronx , Zero Divide and maybe even Anarchy in the Nippon , look better than VF2, but they are also later games.

yeah, the arcade version looks a lot better, but the Satun version looks amazing for the hardware it runs, rivalling even some of the best looking PS1 games imo

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#204 Darkman2007
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[QUOTE="Darkman2007"]

[QUOTE="nameless12345"]

Yeah, looks nice.

But would you say it looks better than the arcade one?

rilpas

of course not, the only thing the Saturn does better is the resolution , its higher, but apart from that , the arcade wins the character models are smoother and better, it has better textures, and the 3D backgrounds.

VF2 is like the SNES version of MK2 , a great port for its time given the hardware, but obviously not as good as the arcade original.

of course, I would say DOA, Last Bronx , Zero Divide and maybe even Anarchy in the Nippon , look better than VF2, but they are also later games.

yeah, the arcade version looks a lot better, but the Satun version looks amazing for the hardware it runs, rivalling even some of the best looking PS1 games imo

well it beats every PS1 fighter at the time , but it was surpassed by Tekken 3 , Soul Blade etc
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[QUOTE="Darkman2007"]

[QUOTE="nameless12345"]

Waiting for your "direct feed" shots...

nameless12345

don't know about the game looking totally differrent , but those pictures you posted are of a poor quality and the game does look better than that , especially with a good cable. heck , even my old capture device did a better job.

and these were taken with a composite output (simply because this capture card didn't have RGB) , the game looks quite a bit better (at least the colours and sharpness) with S-video or RGB.

Yeah, looks nice.

But would you say it looks better than the arcade one?

no one has claimed that

still it looked better than any fighting game of that time, including tekken 2, which was a 1996 game. considering saturn had the most hardware margin left by 1997/1998 compared to psx. I think it's save to say they would've put out again the best looking fighting game in 1998 witf vf3, was it not canceled.

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#206 rilpas
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[QUOTE="rilpas"]

[QUOTE="Darkman2007"]

of course not, the only thing the Saturn does better is the resolution , its higher, but apart from that , the arcade wins the character models are smoother and better, it has better textures, and the 3D backgrounds.

VF2 is like the SNES version of MK2 , a great port for its time given the hardware, but obviously not as good as the arcade original.

of course, I would say DOA, Last Bronx , Zero Divide and maybe even Anarchy in the Nippon , look better than VF2, but they are also later games.

Darkman2007

yeah, the arcade version looks a lot better, but the Satun version looks amazing for the hardware it runs, rivalling even some of the best looking PS1 games imo

well it beats every PS1 fighter at the time , but it was surpassed by Tekken 3 , Soul Blade etc

those were the two PS1 fighters I had in mind when I said 'rivalling' :P

I think Virtua Fighter 2 falls a little below those in some areas, while looking better in others

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#207 Darkman2007
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[QUOTE="Darkman2007"][QUOTE="rilpas"]

yeah, the arcade version looks a lot better, but the Satun version looks amazing for the hardware it runs, rivalling even some of the best looking PS1 games imo

rilpas

well it beats every PS1 fighter at the time , but it was surpassed by Tekken 3 , Soul Blade etc

those were the two PS1 fighters I had in mind when I said 'rivalling' :P

I think Virtua Fighter 2 falls a little below those in some areas, while looking better in others

naa, Tekken 3 was better in every way, except for resolution and backgrounds, which was lower. even Soul Blade looks just as good, if not a bit better.
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#208 rilpas
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[QUOTE="rilpas"]

[QUOTE="Darkman2007"] well it beats every PS1 fighter at the time , but it was surpassed by Tekken 3 , Soul Blade etcDarkman2007

those were the two PS1 fighters I had in mind when I said 'rivalling' :P

I think Virtua Fighter 2 falls a little below those in some areas, while looking better in others

naa, Tekken 3 was better in every way, except for resolution and backgrounds, which was lower. even Soul Blade looks just as good, if not a bit better.

yeah, it's possible, It's been years since I've played Tekken 3

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[QUOTE="nameless12345"]

Yeah, looks nice.

But would you say it looks better than the arcade one?

bultje112

no one has claimed that

still it looked better than any fighting game of that time, including tekken 2, which was a 1996 game. considering saturn had the most hardware margin left by 1997/1998 compared to psx. I think it's save to say they would've put out again the best looking fighting game in 1998 witf vf3, was it not canceled.

Actually, Virtua Figher 3 released for arcades in 1996 (when it was the most technically advanced game of that time), and for the Japanese Dreamcast in 1998... It's just that the Dreamcast port wasn't released in the West until 1999, by which time it was overshadowed by Soul Calibur (the Dreamcast port of which, rare for its time, actually looked better than the arcade original).

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#210 Darkman2007
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[QUOTE="Darkman2007"][QUOTE="rilpas"]

those were the two PS1 fighters I had in mind when I said 'rivalling' :P

I think Virtua Fighter 2 falls a little below those in some areas, while looking better in others

rilpas

naa, Tekken 3 was better in every way, except for resolution and backgrounds, which was lower. even Soul Blade looks just as good, if not a bit better.

yeah, it's possible, It's been years since I've played Tekken 3

of course, Tekken 3 is also newer , so one can expect it to look better. VF2 does have the higher res though , Tekken 3 runs at 320X480 on the PS1 (it was 640X480 in the arcade which was basically a PS1 on steroids), also the backgrounds don't have that wallpaper look that alot of PS1 fighters have, because of the VDP2. Last Bronx and DOA put up a decent fight though , even if Tekken 3 is still a bit better (not nearly as much though)