[QUOTE="mglbpkillz"][QUOTE="Number_1_Gamer"] It's a success because it's selling better than the GCN sold? LOLOLOL. That's the stupidest thing I've ever heard.tktomo01no because in only 2 years it outsold the GCN's LIFETIME sales so u see if this is only in 2 years imagine the next couple years the original xbox is next. A kid in a math class scores 33%, I score 40%. Is that an achievement or a notable success? Just because you beat something doesn't make it impressive or an achievement. Ok, so say the ps3 scored 33% (360's failure rate btw..) and the 360 scored 40% using your equation, you can say that just because the 360 beat the ps3 on the math test, they are better, but don't leave out the point that the 360 had a year longer to finish the test than the ps3 and the 360 paid off the teacher. 40% is not much better than 33% yet lems act like 360 is the most successful console...lol.
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[QUOTE="SilverChimera"]It's mostly just lemming fanboys who had to live with PS2 killing the xbox and gamecube so they are back with a vengeance finding any excuse to bash their long lost enemy sony. they will never admit that the PS3 is selling good and it's doing much better than it's competition with games and realibility. I couldn't agree with you more, It's sickening on how all these lemmings play all these sales cards all the time, when they don't look at the details, the year head start, the fact that the 360 is not far off in sales for 1/2 the price. Lemmings can be down right brutal in sw and they swarm togeather in their hate. I would rather praise the ps3 than bash the 360, but what do you see most lems doing? Bashing the ps3. Even there head pr guy Greenspamburg talks about the ps3 constantly to hide the fact that they have no games in the pipeline.yea, i never understood why people thought the ps3 is a sales failure. it will soon outsell the original xbox (25 mil).
mglbpkillz
[QUOTE="SpruceCaboose"][QUOTE="sixringz1"]I am objective. The PS3 is a failure for Sony. Plain and simple. Losing money for the company that made it is not a success. Sure, as a gamer I love it, but its not a success for Sony at all at this point. so if the ps3 sells 50-60 mill this generation it will be a failure to sony because it is a decrease in sales from the PS2? If you say so, but its hard to say anything that sells that much is a failure. The real question is, if there were no PS1 or PS2 and this was sony's only console and you had nothing to compare it to, would you consider it's sales as of now, as well as it's projected sales, a failure? I just think too many people conciously or not can't seperate the PS3 from the PS1 and PS2. The PS3 will never have the numbers the other 2 had, but as a system on it's own i don't know how, in the end, it can be considered a failure. I just don't see it that way. maybe it's me Sixringz1: the fact is there are too many lemmings or lemmings who say they own a ps3 but bash it on system wars.... it's all they have to refute the ps3's success. Really they brag and brag and brag about how 360 has all the more market share...it all means squat!!! The ps3 for a $600 console at launch and now $400 has sold tremendously well for its price point. $200 more than the 360, and at 22million vers. 28million and 1 year 3 months head start from 360 at half the price. It means alot. If PS3 was the same price as 360 and launched at the same time, the 360 would be demolished right now. The ps3 is only 2.5 years old. last E3 Sony compared ps3 sales for launch to date with the ps2 at a similar time, and guess what they sold the same. And this is for a console at 2x the price. Thats damn good. And if you say otherwise you really aren't looking at the price, and i bet you owned at least 3-4 of the 360's that you keep having to replace. (yes that is how ms got its lead 1 year 3months and rrod replacment machines.) Frankly I am shocked at how well the ps3 has done, considering all the 360 fanboys spouting their mouths durning launch, the dumb songs on U-tube and the media taking payroll by microsoft.to any objective (non fanboy) person, they would all say that the ps3 has been a success. The people who say it has failed is comparing its sales relative to the PS1 and PS2. So in that manner it's definitely not as successful, but looking at the system on its own it is definitely successful. It's sold over 20 mill in 2.5 years. Which just by those numbers, if you just assume it will keep the same pace (which it won't, it will do better cause of price drops and more games)it will still sell roughly 50 million units. Forget video games, you can't name me one product in the world that if it sells 50 million units can be considered a failure
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And when did an expensive console ever do this good? Never!
Our second source echoed that assessment of the Wii's graphics chip, comparing its fixed-function design to that the Gamecube, saying that it was "basically pretty similar" to Nvidia's seven-year-old GeForce2. "A dev support guy from Nintendo said that the Wii chipset is 'Gamecube 1.5 with some added memory,'" our second source told us. "I figure if they say that, it must be true."
Why, by the way, did Nintendo opt for a fixed-function graphics chip instead of a programmable GPU, like the PS3 or Xbox 360? "It's all about cost," our first source told us. "Fixed function circuitry is a lot cheaper to make." Those cost savings have not only resulted in a console that is cheaper than its competitors, but also much more profitable for Nintendo. And we know full well how much Nintendo loves its profits."
Funny how in terms of graphics it's either PS2 or PS360. The Wii is definitely better than the Xbox graphically, but also a notch below the PS360. Note, that the Wii doesn't have built in shaders in their hardware, the shaders need to be programmed in from scratch. I don't feel like talking about it, but in terms of graphics, it's PC>PS360>Wii>>Xbox/GC (arguably with Rogue Squadron 2: Rogue Leader and Resident Evil 4)>PS2.hiphops_saviorThe wii doesn't have shader hardware? No wonder the graphics suck on the games i have for it... The ps2 doesn't have shader hardware either, the xbox 1 is the only last gen hardware that has a programable pixel shader pipeline. xbox 1 had pixel shader 1.0 as all the xbox was is a 500mhz pentium 3 and a 233mhz cut down Geforce 3 card. The geforce 3 was the first graphics card to use programable pixled and vertex shaders. Everything before that had hard coded effects using the fixed function hardware transform and lighting used in the geforce2 and Radeon. Anything before that was just software cpu rendered and took a big hit. The wii is nothing more than a souped up flipper that was found on the gamecube, its an ati card without a shader pipeline......So basically the wii is worse than the xbox1 when it comes to graphics shader effects. Do you see normal mapping, dot3 bumps, environment mapping, reflective water like was on Morrowind for xbox and pc on the wii? No you don't all I've seen is the old style water effects that were used in gamecube and ps2 and pre- geforce 3 era gfx cards. I was strictly a pc guy last gen since after the ps1 so i know a lot about the hardware.
[QUOTE="Ratchet_Fan8"]SUCKER PUNCH!! ^_^ i hope they'll announce Sly...ima big time Sucker Punch fan :D and the vid does look good,any confirmation of trophez yet? Marka1700Havent sony made trophies mandatory now? yes trophies are mandatory for all games that get certified after 2009. There was a few games in January that didn't have trophies, but that was becuase they were certified in 08' with lazy devs. Now devs can't be lazy. You want a game on psn it requires trophy support. You can tell if a game has trophies by the white strip at the top on a game cover that says Playstation Network, and on the back it will have the extra features. in 2008 only excluisves got that with the only on playstion added. Now all games certified for psn have that. If it has that it has trophies.
As for Infamous. Wow!! That trailer was crazy! It's got to be the best put togeather trailer i have ever seen. I was hyped for this game before, but now after this trailer I can't wait. The game has gone gold, i hate that we have to wait for it, the should of released it in the begining of may. This sucks all the games i want right now aren't coming out unitl the last week of May....Infamous, Sacred 2, and Cross Edge..... This is going to rock and with infamous you get free uncharted 2 mp beta. After watching that u2 mp trailer i am even more wanting this. It can't get here soon enough!
[QUOTE="Nerkcon"]No cancel it, make it for the PC instead! :D We need hack 'n' slashers (Diablo isn't one and it sucks compared to real ones), beat'em ups, and fighting game son the PC! :D PLEASE! :cry: It's not like it is really that hard to find a gamepad for the PC, all PC gamers get their stuff online and not retail anyway!dgsagConsidering the Rise of the White Wolf was just a console-adapted version of the witcher with a new engine, you're well off just buying the Enhanced Edition already out for PC. I own the base us censored version of the game- the red box, then I bought the black box set imported from UK - Non-censored 5-disc Enhanced Edition. I love the witcher, I will buy the ps3 blu-ray disc just to support CD-Project, why? They are old school! They made an in depth, story filled rpg in an age where rpgs are becoming simplified casual fare. And they own the GOG.com (good old games) for buying out of print old pc games that they make work on new operating systems , with instrcutions tips, and bonus content for like $5.00 a game. I will buy the white wolf blu-ray day 1.
[QUOTE="GreyFoXX4"]You say we should get past fanboy issues, but have only a PSN ID in your sig :roll: PS, i stopped reading after you said fanboy issues, i cant take what you say seriously with only a PSN Id in your sig. Were you like this when cds came out? did you resent them, and did you say...oh, cassette tapes and cartridge games are good enough? It's because of people like you I got stuck having to buy floppy discs in the 90's or CD's in the early 2000's for pc games. I remember it well. The year was 1990 I got a Ibm compat 386sx computer, and it had a soundblaster -16 pro card with multi-media capabiltiy and a 2x cd-rom drive. I remeber getting Ultima Underworld on CD, and Getting Wing commander 2 with full voice acting for the entire game (the disk game was already around 10 1.44mb floppies and no voice. I was loving it. Was the cd-rom slow, yeah, but no slower than the discs back then. But you know what those types of cd packages didn't come out til the mid-late 1990's, you know why? Because people like you guys didn't adapt.Guys need to get past the fanboy issues and realise that bluray is needed and will be a welcome to the pc world once it has taken the top spot. I mean I would record race replays and put music to them from our Nascar Racing 2003 league races. By the time I would cut and cut and then cut some more to make a dvd 3/4 of the race was gone. Yes I could have compressed it more but then I was losing alot of pic quality. So in the end I gave up on that project for our league. But if Bluray had been around I would have easily been able to do this on one bluray with alot of extras aswell.
Get past the fanboy thinking and realise that more space isn't a bad thing. Also time moves forward any how and that means space is going to be needed for present and future projects that you yourself do or devs in the business sector. To back up my pc it will take 2 dvds, which would easily be done on one bluray, see how that works. Bluray is not just for movies it is a storage medium, and everyone should welcome it.
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Fast Forward back to 2001, I got my first DVD-Rom drive for my pc. I was a little late to the party this time, but you wouldn't think it though, there was maybe one game that actually came out on DVD at that time, and it was Baldur's gate (great game btw.) because it was 6 CD's on CD format, 1 DVD. You people didn't want to adapt again. I had to wait till late 2004 before DVD's starting coming out more regulary for PC, it started with Unreal Tornament Direcotors cut, and went from there, before that almost everything was multiple cd, why? Because people are cheap, they wouldn't buy the $30 dvd drive (well I must say most people don't know about newegg.com and would be ripped off from staples or best buy so..)
Move it up to the present and I got my ps3 with blu-ray dirve. 25-50gb of storage on scratch resistant discs. It's a great medium...but this time it's worse, as you people once again don't want to change, not becuase of price or conviencenc, because of stupid fanboyness.... Because ms has you guys love m$ so much that you feel more storage isn't needed. Come on. It's new technology either embrace it or be left behind. Go have fun with your 8-track player or n-64 rom carts, remember them you same people thought we didn't need cds, guess what...playstation showed you otherwise. Samething is going to happen with blu-ray. The drives are not that slow, its comparaible to a 9x dvd speed, but guess what its sustaiable, where as the dvd's is variable with ups and down, but all your double-layered dvds (most of the 360 games) are actually slower than the blue-ray drives. As far as games not needing it? Yeah right. Look at MGS4, Killzone 2 - each level is 2gb thats around what 18gb there. Then you got little big planet chock full of content. The ps3 games use the blueray the 1st party exclusives use it. And some 3rd party does too. Even ID is going to have to downgrade the 360 version of rage because greedy M$ charges a tax for each game disc a game has, they have to put their grubby hands in to everything. Blue-ray is the future now. And perhaps this halographic tech after that. The bottom line is more storage is a good thing. It always has been. You know how silly you guys sound saying you don't need more storage. Kinda like bill gates when he said 2640k ram who would ever need more than that? lol... it's your loss, you would rather suffer on last gen tech than to admit Sony was right with storage tech....why do you hate them so much, or is it just to justify your xbox360 only having dvd?
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