@thereal25: Hmm, I would imagine Tetris geared more towards older gamers myself. Being a game that requires concentration and was known to have an older market upon its height.

And I recall studies being shown despite the intended demographic, more adults play Pokémon than children these days.

The rest is likely true. Minecraft and Fortnite especially.

But assuming kids don't play games with stories and NPCs is a far stretch. From my understanding GTA V is popular with children. As is The Witcher III.

@thereal25: I think classic Doom looks stylish and plays well. I think theres something especially satisfying about taking on Sprite based enimies in fps games.

The reason its tedius in Doom 2016 is probably because of the way the game is structured. The old games were more labrynthian, Doom 2016 was more linear and you basically travel from from one arena where you have to kill all the enemies to progress to the next. The way it's set up makes exploration less fun. It was probably my biggest gripe.

@thereal25: I like how Doom fans just treat Doom franchise like it was always the most violent primal game ever when in actuality you where walking around awkwardly getting the best shot possible.

I'm pretty sure when Doom came out it was so immersive that it made 90's kids head's explode.

@thereal25: Doom 1 and 2 are still excellent to this day. They were also about more than just fast paced action, they were just as much finding you're way through labrynthian level design and exploring to find secrets and useful items.

Also you dont need story to have atmosphere. When I was a kid I used to care about story in games a lot but nowadays it seems they have a tendency to be an annoyance.

Disagree. As I brought up earlier; Ninja Gaiden: Black/ Sigma is considered one of the best 'Action' Hack n' Slash games of all time. And pretty sure no one who enjoys the game gives a damn about the story aspect of it. D00M is in the same boat, D00M and D00M II are two of the most praised games of all time and from my knowledge have terrible stories.

Good examples of action oriented games with adequate stories would be F.E.A.R and Doom3...

Ermm. . . D00M III you say? I don't really want to go into this can of worms again so here is a link to a conversation about that glorified tech demo with horrible level design.

https://www.gamespot.com/forums/games-discussion-1000000/future-of-bethesda-33447452/

As for F.E.A.R. I've honestly never played so would not like to throw in any thoughts_

Either way, different people different tastes is something I strongly believe in so if you like them both that's fantastic.

But in Doom 2016, the atmosphere was no longer there, you just wake up from some chamber and it's like "pick up that gun over there and go shoot stuff!"

Well, hate to tell you but that's exactly what D00M was, and is loved for. If you wanted an emphasis on tense atmosphere much better games than D00M III (which reuses assets more than a TESIV Oblivion Gate). Pretty much any well regarded Survival Horror game has it beat easily, and to throw in a forgotten gem Demento is one of them.

Btw, I hadn't heard of Dusk; it sounds interesting. It certainly gets good reviews. I guess old-school games like this can get a pass for having little or no story if the gameplay is fun enough, but for modern games I expect npc's and some sort of plot or story.

Dusk would still class as modern, it's just also indie. Was recommended to me for liking run -n-gun shooters and was advertised to be like D00M IV without the pacing issues.

And well a lot of modern games are going back cutting the fat on that NPC stuff. Plus I think it heavily varies from genre. If you look at many of the heavy hitters from 2018-2019 they do not focus on story telling (Monster Hunter: World, Super Mario Odyssey, Battle Royale genre, Tetris 99, Resident Evil 2 Remake)

While games that did are poorly received (Anthem, Days Gone, Agony, Dark Siders III, Battlefield V, etc) I think Rockstar is one of the few doing it recently in a positive manner for its fandom. Didn't count the new Spider Man game because I've read what people like most about that game is swinging.

It had a story? Nah I would say at best it had a premise, and a vague one at that.

Remaking a game from the 90's (for the fourth time) comes along with being one note I suppose.

But honestly even then I found the holding us back so some robot could chat for two minutes was more than I wanted.

People don't play games like D00M for the plot. That's why Dusk is better, it cuts out the middle man entirely.

Hello friends,

So we have discuss top 10 games of all time numerious times. here we are making our top 25 games of all time. so my friends, what are you top 25 games you have ever played?

1. Deus Ex
2. STALKER Shadow of Chernoboyl
3. Half life 2
4. Half life 1
5. System Shock 2
6. Splinter Cell Chaos Theory
7. Chronicles of Riddick Escape from Butcher Bay
8. Doom (2016)
9. FEAR 1
10. Max Payne 1
11. Mafia The City of lost Heaven
12. Deus Ex Human Revolution
13. Doom (classic)
14. Doom 3
15. Quake 1
16. Splinter Cell 1
17. Hitman 2 Silent Assassins
18. Hitman Blood Money
19. Crysis 1
20. Max Payne 3
21. Return to Castle Wolfenstein
22. Metro 2033
23. Metro Last Light
24. Metro Exodus
25. Call of Juarez Gunslinger