So you honestly don't think the Zen CPU in the PS5 is gonna be in the 2.8 - 3.0Ghz range, I thought that was pretty much a given.

I get that Zen at the same clock speed is still an improvement over Jaguar, but I just don't buy Sony going under 2Ghz with the Zen cores, but I do understand how you got to that conclusion. Its definitely a possibility, but I still have doubts.

see "PS4" launch, also if you actually do some research you can find out what these components cost for the individual, as a large corporation sony would pay significantly less, like the Zen2 CPU for example. AMD revealed their yields and it only costs them like $40 to make an 8c Chip, so you could assume sony and AMD have a very good working relationship it wouldnt be hard to think that they would be paying $60 for the cpu. same with the ram, if its GDDR6 regular consumer pricing is something like $9/GB, its not a hard stretch to think that sony is probably paying like $5/GB. the OS is free as it is developed in house and a 250W Psu probably costs like $30 considering you can get a 500W for $40.

its going to be $399, its going to have either 12 or 16GB of ram, zen2, Navi is supposed to be the mid end cheapo GPU from AMD and if you havnt followed the news Navi was re designed to work better with consoles. i expect that at most Navi will be no more than 20% faster than the PS4 pro however the big leaps will be in the CPU and if devs can do some "magic" like naughty dog did with the PS3 they could offload some GPU workloads to the CPU.

@boxrekt: Your argument assumes Sony views the PS5 as some sort of higher end PS4. What makes you think Sony is content with people holding on to their PS4s and waiting for PS5 to become affordable in 2 or 3 years with competition like MS and Google Stadia around? That makes no sense at all. They want to gain marketshare as quick as possible so that the PS5 can start a new install-base ASAP for next gen.

Marketing your console to gaming enthusiasts is the surest way to fail. You’ve said so yourself, the X has been successful among the hardcore but it hasn’t moved the needle for MS at all when you place it next to Sony’s overall sales which are bolstered by the uber successful OG PS4 and PS4 Slim. The PS5 isn’t supposed to be a replacement to the PS4 Pro or compete with the X for hardcore gamers, it’s meant to replace the aging regular PS4, it’s a new starting point for Sony. Marketing it as a premium console is exactly what Sony should avoid. They are supposed to market the PS5 as an affordable yet capable console like they did with the PS4. Trying to market it as a premium PS4 Pro or X replacement will cause the PS5 to fail. It will be appealing to people like us on SW but outside gaming enthusiast circles it will fail hard, and that’s what Sony should avoid at all costs. Crossgen game development doesn’t change the dynamics at all. A $400 console is still way more marketable than a $500 or $600 one.

You're again talking about Display and GPUs. I never claimed anything related to display or the GPU power. The point is where is the proof that HDMI 1.4 can pass 10 bit info to the display without compression/simulation or dithering. And most specifically where's the evidence to verify Sony's HDR claims as there's no content. I won't respond again if you keep talking about PC GPUs and TVs.

Yea but yall have to take into account that amd uses a modified Flux capacitor while nVidia uses a reverse tachyon accelerator.

I do realize 4:2:0 can be 8 bit and 10 it however 4:2:0 is compressed and not representative of the true color space.

Lastly, I never questioned the GPU is incapable of HDR, I specifically said that PS4 didn't have HDMI 2.0 to pass 10bit HDR. Unless you can prove that HDMI 1.4 can do HDR all of that is irrelevant. I need evidence that HDMI 1.4 can do HDR not GPU, not PS4 hardware not monitors or TVs. Simple.

Here's your ownage:

ow did Sony do HDR without the hardware for it? You can't change the hardware but just updating the firmware. Sony is faking HDR on original PS4.