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#1 esk59
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[QUOTE="Danthegamingman"][QUOTE="Teufelhuhn"]You know nothing about graphics processors. If you'd like a free lesson, please let me know.Teufelhuhn
no thanks we will pass, plenty of well respected tech and gaming sites have put the consoles thru the motions and X360 has been the clear winner on the GPU, RAM architecture, and some feel the X360 CPU is better than the Cell for gaming. So we will pass on the lesson as there are plenty of resources to learn like the one below my sig.



If a lesson weren't needed, then people wouldn't be posting triangle fillrate numbers for a GPU with unified shaders, because they would know such a number is completely meaningless.




And triangle filrate numbers for a dedicated shader architecture are extremely meaningful and useful? That 275 million triangles a sec are about as important as the PS2's 75 million triangles a sec number.

Why don't you just stop insulting people while making dumb comments?


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#2 esk59
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This thread is hilarious!
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[QUOTE="tcarruth"]

What planet do you live on? Clearly you have access to some multidimensional universe that I don't, where you can choose between PS3's and 360's that are released at the same time. Well I don't. I have to choose now. The reality is that the 360 was released a year earlier than the PS3 and will always be a year older, it is a fact of the matter. If it is cheaper and has better games than the PS3 now, how does it matter to me that the PS3 is newer? This line of reasoning should stop here now.

It is a Sony fanboy excuse, not an argument. To be clear, one of the very reasons the PS2 was so great was that it had an earlier release than the xbox, had a bigger user-base and developers could invest more in great PS2 games. Its release date was inextricably intwined with its own success. Release date is a characteristic of a console not a basis with which to tolerate a tiny selection of mediocre games.

MaximumD
By your logic, the PS2 is kicking the x-box 360's ass and time doesn't matter. Your logic failed lemming.



Different generations genius. Logic, try some of that.
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[QUOTE="esk59"][QUOTE="True_Gamer_"]PS3:
Advantages:

Blu Ray - You might scream thats not needed but from a non biased perspective its a plus (albeit a small one)
Free online - 0 is 0 no matter how good or bad is what you get...
Japanese support - KONAMI, Square Enix, Namco, Capcom...all support PS3 more despite its sluggish start.
Future Proof - The potential is great regardless if it might not survive to live up to it.
Exclusives - Gran Turismo, MGS, WEJL/FE, Tekken, FFXXIII...
Region Free - NO NEED to get illegal modchips to play exclusive to Japan and USA games importing games etc etc...
Cumbersome to pirate - Most of pirated copies are sold in hard format as a physical disk...with BR being very new and the blank disks/RWs costing too much it might help to slow the pirates down significantly...

Disadvantages:
Expensive machine - Hell €630 isnt a small thing...Its like a CD6300 + 8800GTS a combo thats twice as powerful as PS3...
Expensive games - €75($94) per game...crazy...
Hazardus investment - Floppage probability quite high...and a risk getting a Dreamcast2...
Wait wait wait - Out in Europe in March/No price drop on the horizon....Sony truly loves Eurogamers...
Losing Exclusives - Imagine getting one to play MGS4 just to find out that its also out on the 360...

Xbox360:
Advantages:

Good Price/Features ratio - If youre just a casual gamer its a perfect choice...
Easier to develop - Which means better games and faster...
Cheaper games - Started at €70/€75 and have dropped to €55/€60 in just one year...
Headstart/Install base - Stronger 3rd party support...
M$ - Lots of cash to prevent dreamcasting...

Disadvantages:

Ports ports ports - For an owner of a gaming PC that is...
Overly relying on Shooters - FPS = M/K for a PC gamer no matter how one spins it...
M$ ditching it - Xbox1 was ditched quite harshly...so it might happen again...
Small format size - Supporting the above if M$ sees DVD9 as inadequate they might sharply release a Xbox720 in mid 2010....with painful consequences for the 360...
Easy to pirate - DVD9 format is well known to pirates for almost a decade the games are small enough to circulate on teh net...and the blank disks/RWs are VERY cheap...
Weak Japanese support - With Japan being the capital of NON PC gaming this is crucial...

Have a nice day...
True_Gamer_


I wouldn't call your perspective unbiased. While i'm sure you are being unbiased, the fact that you don't own a 360 and PS3 makes your perspective a lot more ignorant than anything else.

From your limited, ignorant perspective, it's interesting what you see.

Of course the truth is far from from what you think. But you don't know that and probably never will. As they say, "ignorance is bliss".


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Can you comment specifically on my points? Whats ignorant about them?




What you wrote are simply observations from your perspective which consists of PC gaming and reading this forum and maybe others on the 360 and PS3.

The real world experience is very different.

For example, let's say you have a hardcore gamer who games over 40 hours a week, a moderate gamer who games over 20 hours a week and a casual gamer who games less than 15 hours a week.

harcore gamer -

360 is a great system, lots of great games, busy playing, meets all his gaming needs and very promosing future

PS3 worthless to them, promise of future potential means nothing because this guys needs to play 40 hours per week. Can't do that on the PS3 so this system is simlpy worthless. No argument here, this is FACT!


moderate gamer -

360 is a great system, lots of great games, busy playing, meets all his gaming needs and very promosing future

PS3 is again worthless because there is nothing to play on it. Drooling over the future won't cut it for this gamer.


casual gamer -

360 is a great system, too many great games, not enough time to play them all, meets all his gaming needs and very promosing future

PS3 is worthless yet again because there is nothing to play on it. The future doesn't matter to this casual gamer because he is the most willing out of any other gamer to wait for a price drop.



And then comes the internet guys who just read forums and speculate but don't own either console.

360 is this and that and whatever, maybe fanboy comments, maybe as unbiased as possible but still meaningless and worthless.

PS3 has all this potential, just wait and blah blah blah but he doesn't even own one and really doesn't know what he's talking about


THE BOTTOM LINE IS THIS360 is the only option for any gamer choosing between this and the PS3. It just kills the PS3 in every way. 

PS3 is worthless for gaming but is a cheap blu-ray player and has value in that regard.

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PS3:
Advantages:

Blu Ray - You might scream thats not needed but from a non biased perspective its a plus (albeit a small one)
Free online - 0 is 0 no matter how good or bad is what you get...
Japanese support - KONAMI, Square Enix, Namco, Capcom...all support PS3 more despite its sluggish start.
Future Proof - The potential is great regardless if it might not survive to live up to it.
Exclusives - Gran Turismo, MGS, WEJL/FE, Tekken,  FFXXIII...
Region Free - NO NEED to get illegal modchips to play exclusive to Japan and USA games importing games etc etc...
Cumbersome to pirate -  Most of pirated copies are sold in hard format as a physical disk...with BR being very new and the blank disks/RWs costing too much it might help to slow the pirates down significantly...

Disadvantages:
Expensive machine - Hell €630 isnt a small thing...Its like a CD6300 + 8800GTS a combo thats twice as powerful as PS3...
Expensive games - €75($94) per game...crazy...
Hazardus investment - Floppage probability quite high...and a risk getting a Dreamcast2...
Wait wait wait - Out in Europe in March/No price drop on the horizon....Sony truly loves Eurogamers...
Losing Exclusives - Imagine getting one to play MGS4 just to find out that its also out on the 360...

Xbox360:
Advantages:

Good Price/Features ratio -  If youre just a casual gamer its a perfect choice...
Easier to develop - Which means better games and faster...
Cheaper games - Started at €70/€75 and have dropped to €55/€60 in just one year...
Headstart/Install base - Stronger 3rd party support...
M$ - Lots of cash to prevent dreamcasting...

Disadvantages:

Ports ports ports - For an owner of a gaming PC that is...
Overly relying on Shooters - FPS = M/K for a PC gamer no matter how one spins it...
M$ ditching it - Xbox1 was ditched quite harshly...so it might happen again...
Small format size - Supporting the above if M$ sees DVD9 as inadequate they might sharply release a Xbox720 in mid 2010....with painful consequences for the 360...
Easy to pirate - DVD9 format is well known to pirates for almost a decade the games are small enough to circulate on teh net...and the blank disks/RWs are VERY cheap...
Weak Japanese support - With Japan being the capital of NON PC gaming this is crucial...

Have a nice day...
True_Gamer_


I wouldn't call your perspective unbiased. While i'm sure you are being unbiased, the fact that you don't own a 360 and PS3 makes your perspective a lot more ignorant than anything else.

From your limited, ignorant perspective, it's interesting what you see.

Of course the truth is far from from what you think. But you don't know that and probably never will. As they say, "ignorance is bliss".


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#6 esk59
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[QUOTE="PS3_FTW"][QUOTE="leeee"]Damage control. TCHBO.bluebrad1974
damage controll for what? having an awesome console?

More like damage control for wasting $500-$600 on an inferior game console. Your just trying to justify your purchase, although we all know that your probably already bored with the PS3.



You assume too much. What makes you think he even owns one? I think he owns a PS2 and WISHES he had a PS3 and goes to sleep at night dreaming about how awesome it must be to own one.

The only thing we KNOW about this boy right now is that he lies about everything including where his father works and isn't very bright in general.
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I went into EB today to pick up Madden 07 on PSP, and I saw a load of boxes of Wiis on the shelves. I asked the store clerk about them and he said "The chistmas buzz for Wiis has really gone down, its getting hard to sell them. Of course, there is always the sheep that buy a few, but the general public appears to not care"

Also, apparently the best selling game at my local EB was Resistance FOM, and they are starting to do preorders for MGS4 ("Best to be prepared for the massive buzz for this game" he said), and they have 3 pages of preorders already. Also, Wii's new AAA 'game' has not been selling well. "I guess people want propper games, I hope not all Wii games are minigames fit for partys" was what the store clerk told me.

So all this you hear from sheep about how PS3 is not selling and Wario being amazing, dont believe it, trust me, the general public decide what happens in the gaming world, and they are making the right choice - go with quality games, ditch kiddy Wii-Wii-Wario. I know about this stuff, my dad works where they make Playstaion games, and he says that casual gamers are loving Resistance. I dont blame them, its an awesome game.

PS3_FTW


In another thread you claimed your dad works for "the part of Sony that makes games" and you claimed you get games early as a result. Then you said Motorstorm was awesome and you know this cause you've played it.

You're obviously terrible at lying. You should stop.

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