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#1 SilverArmor82
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[QUOTE="SilverArmor82"][QUOTE="dkhw"]Schaub trade is not the worst trade ever. Why? because we haven't even seen Schaub play for chris sake. Let the kid play then decide. The worst football trade might be Philips River, Shawn Merriman (it was a pick, but Chargers picked him up as a result of getting a pick), Luis Castillo for Eli manning. dkhw

But isn't there a chance that he just might do better than Carr? You still have to give people a chance, even if they have been on the bench, you'd be surprised as to how good some quarterbacks on the bench are. He led the Falcons down 15 to the Patriots and had like 3 TDs over 280 yards and they only lost by 3 points.

It's possible...that's why I said let the kid play the first season with Houston then start to decide if he really is the "real" thing. But I am still baffled by what Houston saw in Schaub. There is not much pro data on him and upside can be a very misleading thing. His pro career stats are 1033 yards, 6 TD, 6 INT on 50 % completiton, not a "wow" to any. But then again, watching him pick apart Billichick led Pat defense was inspiring and hopeful. I am not sure how much of an improvement Schaub is over Carr. Carr has been sacked over 250 times over 5 or 6 years and although the offensive line was better last season, it's still gonna affect how well Schaub will perform in Houston. Schaub will be pressure early on by the fans to perform well and remeber these Texans fans are the very fans that blamed pratically everything on Carr like the woeful offense, woeful season performance, no playoff appearence.

Kubiak spoke to 3 different coaches who have worked with Schaub and they all recommended him along with Jake Plummer. I think the biggest thing that Schaub will bring to the table is leadership and that is a quality that the coaches talked about that Schaub had. Another reason as to why Carr did not have success was his lack of leadership............the players did not really respect him a lot. Plus like I've said before, the Falcons run a very similiar running based west coast offense that the Texans run and well, Schaub is very familiar with the system.
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[QUOTE="SilverArmor82"]It was inevitable that Carr would be gone from the Texans. If it were not for him the Texans could have easily gone 9-7, despite their incomplete team. Schaub is just basically more of a leader by example than Carr and Jake Plummer highly recommended Schaub to Kubiak and Schaub even knows the offense that Kubiak runs very well.dallas_cowboys3
What? David Carr couldn't do anything because he had no O-line. The Texans suck because they have no O-line. I don't care if you have Joe Montana and Emmitt Smith on your team. You aren't going anywhere without an O-line.

No S*** DUDE!? Nope, fumbling snaps and throwing interceptions were Carr's fault. You can't just blame it all on the offensive line, although much of the blame does go to the offensive line. He was shell shocked from being sacked so much that he was prone to making dumb decisions. You know he had more interceptions than TD:wink: The Texans were a better team than you think, despite their many flaws. If you watched any Texans' games, there were 3 games that they gave away that they could have easily won. You do not need a perfect offensive line to at least make wildcard, you do however need an excellent o-line to get to the Superbowl and the matter of the fact is that although the o-line is pretty bad, they still could have won 9 games, which was in reach and not unreachable like many of you think.
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No but in hislast start he had 3 touchdowns and nearly 300 yards with no turnovers.dallas_cowboys3
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It was inevitable that Carr would be gone from the Texans. If it were not for him the Texans could have easily gone 9-7, despite their incomplete team. Schaub is just basically more of a leader by example than Carr and Jake Plummer highly recommended Schaub to Kubiak and Schaub even knows the offense that Kubiak runs very well.
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Schaub trade is not the worst trade ever. Why? because we haven't even seen Schaub play for chris sake. Let the kid play then decide. The worst football trade might be Philips River, Shawn Merriman (it was a pick, but Chargers picked him up as a result of getting a pick), Luis Castillo for Eli manning. dkhw
But isn't there a chance that he just might do better than Carr? You still have to give people a chance, even if they have been on the bench, you'd be surprised as to how good some quarterbacks on the bench are. He led the Falcons down 15 to the Patriots and had like 3 TDs over 280 yards and they only lost by 3 points.
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Shaub knows the west coast offense that Kubiak runs very well. Jake Plummer highly recommended Shaub to Kubiak and that is how they made their decision. Shaub is known to be a leader and will do better than Carr.
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[QUOTE="SilverArmor82"]Did he score 62 against your Mavs last year???KoFoNiO
As a matter of fact, he did, and he did it in 3 quarters too, and you know what, I dont care. That actually made the Mavs more aggressive on defense, and we got to the finals last year, when the Kobes choked against a bad defensive team in the first round.
Yea it doesnt matter because everybody goes for 50 4 games in a row every single year :roll:XxMa5icarxX
Look at the teams they played: Portland, Minnesota, Memphis, New Orleans, those teams range from the worst NBA team to a mediocre team, all below .500, yet you praise Kobe as a god. All of those games were really close as well, if he scored 60 on a team like the Spurs in the playoffs, the Spurs would still beat them.

Name me anyone in the NBA currently who can score 50 plus consistently against elite teams???
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#8 SilverArmor82
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[QUOTE="HaloONE"][QUOTE="BobSacamento"]

guys, things are the same as they have always been

kobe is the one man wrecking crew hes always been, without a doubt the best player in the league, and yes i agree probably the greatest scorer of all time. but ladies, nothing has changed.

the people who think it isnt nash or dirk obviously dont know what the mvp is awarded for. kobes numbers are worse than last year, and so is his team. dirks numbers are better than last year, and so is his team, nash's numbers are better, and so is his team.

simple deductable logic, sort of - but its not going to be kobe. dont you understand? thats WHY nash gets the mvp, because everyone else on his team looks better, they ARE better BECAUSE of him. hes the mvp because of what he does for everyone else.

it's the same story with the same argument as the last 3 years. steve nash will once again win the MVP. but if its dirk, i wont be surprised. if it was nash last year, than its nash this year. he's playing better than he ever has, and so is his team. kobe can average 100ppg if he wants, thats exactly the reason why hes NOT the MVP, because he doesn't make the players around him better. like i said, probably the most simple logic - his numbers are down, and so is his team. people are just on a high from the last 3 games he's had. but he's on my fantasy team so i have no complaints.

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you want numbers? How about leading scorer in the NBA? How about only 4 people in the history of the NBA having back to back to back 50+ point games? clearly he has a shot as good if not better than Dirk and Nash.

Wow... Just wow... It would be a little more impressive if he did it against at least ONE team that had some skill and when his team is BARELY beating teams that are jokes (Memphis and they win by only 2????) I couldn't care less how much he scores!!! He is not the MVP because his team is still junk. Nobody seems to get that the MVP is not for the best player in the league, it's for the MOST VALUABLE Player in the league! It's great that Kobe can score lots of points but his team still sucks. He gets 60 and his team wins by 2 against the crappiest team in the league... That's impressive:roll:

Well let's see Dirk or Nash score 60 plus at least 3 games in a row against the crappiest teams:roll: No one in the NBA even scores that much against sorry teams.
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How come he cant score like that against good teams? The Kobes will be bounced out of the first round, guaranteed. Dirk is getting MVP this year.KoFoNiO
Did he score 62 against your Mavs last year???
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#10 SilverArmor82
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Despite the Texans' problems, they still could have gone 9-7 and they can still make the playoffs but a Superbowl team...........forget it.