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#1  Edited By Johnny-n-Roger
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@joebones5000 said:

@loganx77: what? The federal government choose not to kill the ranchers. It's amazing how dumb the shit you post is.

It's amazing how child-like your understanding of reality is. If the ranchers were unarmed they could have simply apprehended and displaced them from their property with little to no collateral damage and media attention. Since they were armed, displacing them would require engaging and disabling them by lethal means. This would draw attention to the issue and is simply not worth the optics when other options are available.

In this case, with guns they win. Without guns, they probably lose. I'm not sure what you're not understanding.

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@MirkoS77 said:
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@Nuck81 said:

@MirkoS77: Yes.

https://www.google.com/search?q=Fox+News+Peters+resigns&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&client=firefox-b

Then how are some in here dismissing this as a "ton of lies" based on the source when it's coming directly from the horse's mouth?

It's not "lies", but it's not news either. We know that mainstream news is cartoonishly biased propaganda. If anyone wants to claim that is exclusively a "Fox News" thing, then more power to them. They can stay ignorant.

Where did he claim it was exclusively a Fox News thing?

It's not the claim, but it's implied by this "news worthy revelation" that can only be considered such within a contextual understanding that the bias of Fox News inherently unique in some way. As another poster suggested, CNN's media relations are beyond abhorrent.

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@MirkoS77 said:
@Nuck81 said:

@MirkoS77: Yes.

https://www.google.com/search?q=Fox+News+Peters+resigns&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&client=firefox-b

Then how are some in here dismissing this as a "ton of lies" based on the source when it's coming directly from the horse's mouth?

It's not "lies", but it's not news either. We know that mainstream news is cartoonishly biased propaganda. If anyone wants to claim that is exclusively a "Fox News" thing, then more power to them. They can stay ignorant.

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@piisexactly4 said:

http://www.news.com.au/finance/economy/world-economy/south-african-politician-says-australia-is-a-racist-country-farmers-should-leave-the-keys-when-they-go/news-story/e98607c4fa66d30d9b2731aa30e2a956

IF WHITE farmers want to flee for a “racist country” like Australia they should leave the keys to their houses and tractors behind, the head of South Africa’s radical Marxist opposition party says.

But Economic Freedom Fighters (EFF) leader Julius Malema, who recently declared his party was “cutting the throat of whiteness”, denied white farmers were being killed. “We don’t know violence, we know negotiations,” Malema told a packed Human Rights Day rally in Mpumalanga Stadium on Wednesday.

Racism is a meme in 2018.

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@vl4d_l3nin said:
@sonicare said:

Be nice to have a balanced budget instead of putting ourselves more in China's debt.

There are maybe five or six people in the entire house who actually care about a balanced budget. Definitely no one in the white house cares.

Partisan politics is nothing but rhetoric. It's just a song and dance to promote the idea that democratic decisions are being made and that there are meaningful discussions being had when in reality the country is being run by globalists.

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The guy's name is Mark Anthony Conditt

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@piisexactly4 said:

"Fox has degenerated from providing a legitimate and much-needed outlet for conservative voices to a mere propaganda machine for a destructive and ethically ruinous administration," wrote Ralph Peters, a Fox News "strategic analyst."

How is this any different than left wing outlets like the one that wrote this story?

It's coming from Buzzfeed. "But muh fake noooz". They have zero self-awareness.

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@Dark_sageX said:

Lately by the left, because mostly they are insane and juvenile about many MANY subjects. But to me its mostly about how people are choosing sides and doing everything they can to smear others (even to the extent of fabricating stories and intentionally misconstruing things all to fulfill a political angel) instead of seeking an understanding with one another and accepting compromises for the benefit of the greater good.

Right wing: You don't like guns? you are not american

Left wing: Gay porn doesn't turn you on? sexist and homophobe!

Right wing: Freedom of religion is important and needs to be respected (while at the same time) lets ban mosques!

Left wing: We should keep boarders completely open and if you don't agree then you are a hateful and racist bigoted ATHOLE!

Seriously, you Americans are ridiculously divided, you live in your echo chambers and refuse to have an open dialogue with anybody from opposing sides, I have seen that not only around here but on youtube as well.

The first two are nothing but pure meme-tier extremism. The last two are extreme caricatures, but they're perfectly relevant to the foundational values that form most people's political views in America.

I don't think that political views manifest themselves from within the frame of the "left vs. right" dichotomy but rather from a "in-group vs. out-group" dichotomy.

Modern "progressives" tend to have an out-group cultural preference, while modern "conservatives" tend to have an in-group cultural preference.

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@tryit said:
@Johnny-n-Roger said:

The argument is not in regards to the morality of "ethno-nationalism", it's whether or not white people and black people should be held to the same moral standard in this regard because of historical context.

and they should not be held to the same moral standard because of the historical context in this specific question

Then that's where we disagree. Your position is that a white person today can't be held to the moral standard of a black person today because of things that their ancestors did. Your morality is racially biased.

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@tryit said:
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@tryit said:
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@tryit said:

two questions

1. why not? why cant they do that?

2. is the moral agenda of a movie and not allowing black people to sit at the front of the bus really the moral equivalent?

1. Why can't who do what?

2. Irrelevant deflection. Try again.

1. why cant they work on one agenda while being hypocritical about it?

2. no its actually the core. if your plan is to show how white culture is under attack becasue of all the attention paid to black 'rights' one ABSOLUTELY has to ask if forcing blacks to use a separate bathroom is the same moral equivalent as being hypocritical about the moral agenda of a movie. you will never in a million years EVER move the left an inch without address it. so thus this entire conversation is a waste of your time without addressing it

1. You can, but not with any credibility to a reasonable individual.

2. This is like if were were discussing the morality of a "social democracy" and I used Joseph Stalin to make a retarded point. The first tell that you're going to start introducing pseudo logic like false equivalencies and continuum fallacies is that you start dividing my position into numbered "points". It's laughably cartoonish.

1. that is of their concern, should not be of yours, unless you are fighting for their cause and are concerned about how good they are. and if that is the case the we will just paint you as a liberal.

2. there isnt any moral equivalency of white suppression of white culture and that of black suprerssion and there is no way in hell you will ever get leftys to forget it. you can convoluted it, distort it, dismiss it all you want..it will never sell. so..what is the point? what is your objective? what is your predicted outcome?

The argument is not in regards to the morality of "ethno-nationalism", it's whether or not white people and black people should be held to the same moral standard in this regard because of historical context.