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#1  Edited By Jacanuk
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@Serraph105 said:

@Jacanuk: Trump used said language against potential SCOTUS judges. I'm just following the logical path he laid down. If it's over the line for me to quote him it was surely over the line for him to say in the first place, yet you voted for him and defend him daily.

Logically then it must not be that bad. Either that or you want to simultaneously defend him for saying it and attack me for quoting him. What is that called again? Anyone? It's on the tip of my tongue.

Well, whatever you need to justify using it. but one key difference here, Trump is not in here and I am sure had he been, Horgen would have banned him for saying shit like that.

So let´s be clear advocating violence just because you don´t like someone´s political stand is never ok and neither is advocating violence because someone else did it. Remember you can´t critic something you are willing or have done yourself.

But anyways Kavanaugh is confirmed and the only solution now if the Democrats really want to, is an impeachment proceeding, which they need to get more than a few Republican senators onboard with before they can even begin to talk about a conviction as well. Which Ford is not onboard with for some "strange" reason.

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@Serraph105 said:

@Jacanuk: it's literally Trump's comment, his quote. You didn't have a problem with him saying it in 2016 before he became president, you probably defended the comment after people brought it up, and now that I quoted him you're suddenly clutching your pearls and saying that it's over the line.

Well, it may be something he said but you pick to use it against Kavanaugh

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#3 Jacanuk
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@Serraph105 said:

It's not technically my comment. How dare I quote the man you spend every day defending.

Well, it´s not really anyone else's comment, you picked that and used it against a sitting supreme court justice.

Also, remember what Gandhi said, an eye for an eye makes the entire world blind on one eye.

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@mattbbpl said:

I thought we'd established long ago that invoking the second amendment in that matter was acceptable political speech.

Threats of violence are never ok, but I get your sarcasm, even though it's misplaced.

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@Serraph105 said:

@Jacanuk: "Well, this is not Donald Trump's forum and I think most agree that violence is not the answer."

If only your president agreed with you.

I am sure he does. but who knows it´s trump after all.

Still, I think your comment crossed the line there.

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@horgen said:
@Jacanuk said:
@Serraph105 said:

"Nothing you can do folks, we'll 2nd ammendment so maybe," Donald Trump.

Hmm, I would watch those threats, Serra.

Maybe Horgen can give gamespots 5 cents on what is clearly a lethal threat against a sitting US supreme court justice.

Death threats go way beyond what I deal with. Though do we look at this as someone merely quoting Trump, or have any more meaning behind it...? I am not the one who will judge that.

Well, Serra is usually reasonable but the quote was clearly meant as I suspect most think Trump meant it, that someone actually takes care of Kavanaugh the only way that will remove him.

But I have no idea how you guys deal with this. Just thought it was a line crossed. You can disagree politically but violence is never ok.

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#7  Edited By Jacanuk
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@Serraph105 said:
@Jacanuk said:
@Serraph105 said:

"Nothing you can do folks, we'll 2nd ammendment so maybe," Donald Trump.

Hmm, I would watch those threats, Serra.

Maybe Horgen can give gamespots 5 cents on what is clearly a lethal threat against a sitting US supreme court justice.

Just quoting the man we call our president. It's all right there for you to see. If you don't care for that sort of rhetoric maybe don't support people who say such things, I know I don't support it.

https://www.nytimes.com/2016/08/10/us/politics/donald-trump-hillary-clinton.html

Well, this is not Donald Trump's forum and I think most agree that violence is not the answer.

So are you really suggesting that someone should go "take care" of Kavanaugh?

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#8 Jacanuk
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@Serraph105 said:

"Nothing you can do folks, we'll 2nd ammendment so maybe," Donald Trump.

Hmm, I would watch those threats, Serra.

Maybe Horgen can give gamespots 5 cents on what is clearly a lethal threat against a sitting US supreme court justice.

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@zaryia said:

What is the chance a woman will be raped, molested, sexually assaulted, vs a guy will be falsely accused of doing those?

Anyone got the stats on this?

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-45565684

Problem is though that these things are incredibly hard to prove and in most cases, there is not any conviction or final answer.

https://www.rainn.org/statistics/criminal-justice-system

So while you can believe women basis on the mere fact that it´s a woman saying it, facts prove that it´s extremely rare that there is enough evidence to prove either complete innocent or complete guilt

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#10 Jacanuk
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@nintendoboy16 said:
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Coming from you, Jacan. That's rich.

So more lies I see.

But I have no problem with Fox expressing their opinion about Trump. Fox unlike you is usually civil and can have a discourse without going to the extremes.

Which again, you too have done to anyone on the left or anyone who dares speaks ill of Trump, Mr. "McCain was a Democrat in disguise".

Considering the passing of Mccain, I won´t engage you on that side, out of respect which you seem to not be able to do.