500$ is not that bad, but 700$ in UK is no good :(

@Seifer24 xbox one controller is exactly same size as 360, i put em together one to 1, just one is extended on top

i think MS pad is beter cause its more comfterble, but from the look of it PS4 pad is more expensive material wise,

@TeoKot @Alex_3D @9a3iqa o_0 wow u sean THE LAPTOP? how could u...

i played ryse yeah, works awesome :)

@9a3iqa @Alex_3D and texture wise, it seams like KSF has tillable stuff all over the place, i think characters are the only thing that going for them, as for Division, look at the blends on the ground, seamless transaction between textures, amount of detail and geometry everywhere, its some serious shit

@9a3iqa @Alex_3D must disagree,
http://images.eurogamer.net/2013/articles//a/1/5/8/8/5/1/1/eurogamer-drdu4b.jpg


http://killzone.dl.playstation.net/killzone/kzsf_e3/kzsf_ss_2013-06-12_shadowfall-e3_02.jpg

@9a3iqa @Alex_3D i wouldn't go that way, i think Killzone was realy good, but i think Division is way better then killzone, and i think Ryse was on the same ranks if not better then killzone, but yeah, i would bet eventually some exclusives might look better, and im really looking forward to what naughty dog is working on next, but in my opinion PS dosent such a big library of good exclusives as Xbox does, MS still to announce loads of exclusives on Games Com so we would

@9a3iqa yah, but sofar games looks same though, i think thats what he had in mind,

@spindie argh, dude, most of ppl here have a PC, and play games on it, and buy consoles for exclusives... dont be a bitch

And wtf? xbox is 499$ after tax silly

@MercifulYet its no mater that PS4 has beter rig, in the end its all about how good the games are, and so far im more on xbox side of the games, all though PS showed some nice stuff aswell, i might actualy get both. as for the power, xbox will feature DX11 and Ps will have OpenGL, not allot of ppl think of it but DX beats Open GL any time