The Official Zephyr / Elite (Xbox 360 Version 2) Thread

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#101 stormtrooper32
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I'm gonna go to Bestbuy, give them my 360 'broken' and pay $80 for the black one. =D
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#102 AENEMA_TOOLOGY
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How much will it cost and what are the new features?
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#103 OnlookerDelay
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Here's about as credible a story as I've read on the Elite thus far.  This comes from Dean Takahashi, writer for The Mercury News.  He authored a book called Opening the XBox, a while back.  He can't name a source, but he thinks this is for real.  He doesn't give a date or timeframe, but simply says "sometime soon".
Microsoft to Announce the XBox 360 Elite

Dean doesn't suggest that the Elite will have the 65nm processor, however.  He thinks Microsoft won't be tooled up to produce them until the Fall.  If that's the case, I'll hold off until I can get a the whole HDMI/120GB/65nm package this Fall.

 

 

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Here's about as credible a story as I've read on the Elite thus far.  This comes from Dean Takahashi, writer for The Mercury News.  He authored a book called Opening the XBox, a while back.  He can't name a source, but he thinks this is for real.  He doesn't give a date or timeframe, but simply says "sometime soon".
Microsoft to Announce the XBox 360 Elite

Dean doesn't suggest that the Elite will have the 65nm processor, however.  He thinks Microsoft won't be tooled up to produce them until the Fall.  If that's the case, I'll hold off until I can get a the whole HDMI/120GB/65nm package this Fall.

 

 

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This does seem to be a fairly good article on the subject of the Zephyr/Elite, but it would be borderline idiotic for MS to put out this unit and not have it include the 65nm process chip, if anything, it would be the perfect test bed to run the chip size in a limited edition console.  They already announced over a year ago that it was what they would be doing, it's the future of the console, so why on earth would you go through all the other hardware revisions and not include that?

  To redesign the motherboard, go through numerous other internal mods and cooling solutions, possibly change the bodywork, and all that just to better cram in the 90nm chip which is already obsolete, and not going to see more than a few months of life in the system?  That's total stupidity, plus, it's cheaper for MS to use the new chip process, and it would be a perfect way to counter the increased cost of the Elite to begin with.  120 gig hardrives, HDMI cables and connections, the cost of a limited run of black console bodies and controllers, dropping the manufacturing cost would be a perfect way to counter some of that, not to mention it would be a total waste of money and engineering to do all this redesigning and then have a completely new design of internals to better place the smaller chipset of the 65nm process. 

  

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#105 d_40
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I'm buying the Zephyr as my first 360
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#106 ccgod
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I'm gonna get an HDMI monitor any idea if they're gonna have HDMI cables for the new 360 when it comes out?
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#107 andrewkozis
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i think i'm going to wait for the Zephyr, if it hasn't come out by the end of summer ill just buy the premium 360 
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#108 martian999
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I'm gonna get an HDMI monitor any idea if they're gonna have HDMI cables for the new 360 when it comes out?ccgod

 Yea, I think the Xbox 'Elite' comes with a cable as well, though im not sure... 

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#109 subrosian
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I'm gonna get an HDMI monitor any idea if they're gonna have HDMI cables for the new 360 when it comes out?ccgod
You are aware HDMI is a standard port? If the 360 gains an HDMI port you'll be able to use any HDMI cable you want, the manufacturer of he cable does not matter.
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#110 ccgod
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[QUOTE="ccgod"]I'm gonna get an HDMI monitor any idea if they're gonna have HDMI cables for the new 360 when it comes out?subrosian
You are aware HDMI is a standard port? If the 360 gains an HDMI port you'll be able to use any HDMI cable you want, the manufacturer of he cable does not matter.

but how would the sound work??  is it just like the cable i have now to hook it to a normal monitor just it's HDMI?
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#111 tony_fjellborg
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Its only a rumor, snap out of it..
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#112 lennon07
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I wud never pay more money for ANOTEHR console, i wud spray paint my 360 be4 i d that ( idont hav a 360)
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#113 SBurns22
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 I noticed how they said that this will be very limited quantities.  That being said i bought my original 360 at costco.  They have(had) a very leniant return policy.  Will the 360 in black be availible at costco?  I know that how limited the Wii and PS3 were, costco has recieved only one or 2 shipments of those and they were after launch.  If anyone has an idea about this please reply.  Thanks.
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#114 ocdog45
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i don't care how limited it is, its not worths it. i compare this 360 the that legendary edition of halo 3. 100% not worth it.
 I noticed how they said that this will be very limited quantities.  That being said i bought my original 360 at costco.  They have(had) a very leniant return policy.  Will the 360 in black be availible at costco?  I know that how limited the Wii and PS3 were, costco has recieved only one or 2 shipments of those and they were after launch.  If anyone has an idea about this please reply.  Thanks.SBurns22
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#116 Fr0mAb0v3
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I cant wait for this to come out... I am all over it.
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#117 halfgreenevenin
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ok maybe this will clear up all types of confusion, i am friends with all the staff of my local game crazy, they know me on a first name basis, i asked them about this matter and they said that thir computer systems were recently updated, and he looked for anysoft of an id for a new 360 and it came up as :BLACK 360 SPECIAL EDITION in their system, so i would be expecting to buy this in a few weeks or months
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#118 halo3resident4
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im gonna stay with my 360 its good as it is
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#119 nivet14
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ok maybe this will clear up all types of confusion, i am friends with all the staff of my local game crazy, they know me on a first name basis, i asked them about this matter and they said that thir computer systems were recently updated, and he looked for anysoft of an id for a new 360 and it came up as :BLACK 360 SPECIAL EDITION in their system, so i would be expecting to buy this in a few weeks or monthshalfgreenevenin
I hope what you are saying is true.
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I will get it, only because they claim it is more stable, plus I need the Space.  When I find out that it is being released, I will sell my current and pay the difference.

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#121 F1sTDaCuffS
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[QUOTE="subrosian"][QUOTE="ccgod"]I'm gonna get an HDMI monitor any idea if they're gonna have HDMI cables for the new 360 when it comes out?ccgod
You are aware HDMI is a standard port? If the 360 gains an HDMI port you'll be able to use any HDMI cable you want, the manufacturer of he cable does not matter.

but how would the sound work?? is it just like the cable i have now to hook it to a normal monitor just it's HDMI?

 

you need an optical cable, which is sperate, it goes with the type of surround sound that you have. i.e. bose, sony dream system. or some other type of sound system. but, its a little black door in the back, just put the optical cable thru that little black door. 

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#122 OnlookerDelay
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I will get it, only because they claim it is more stableEMERlCa6969

According to Dean Takahashi (San Jose Mercury News), the Limited Edition "Elite" XBox 360 will not have the 65nm (more stable) processor.  That won't come until the Fall and Microsoft releases the white Elite. 

Here's the pertinant quote from his article about that:

"By the fall, the company will also implement a chip redesign, shifting from 90-nanometer production to 65 nanometer production. That will bring costs down fairly dramatically and will enable Microsoft to make the box in larger quantities by the fourth quarter."

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#123 menito1432
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HDMI = DVI-D + Optical
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#124 yellosnolvr
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this 360 elite needs more RAM if it wants to run games and have the xbox guide. i say 1 or so gigs will do it fine.
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#125 chaoscougar1
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im just annoyed, i feel like ive been plamed off a second rate machine, i payed a massive amount of money for my 360 and then less than a year later i hear that they are bringing out a better version, ive payed full price for a half done machine and i feel jibbed, just my 2 cents
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#126 angelfly
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I've been holding off on a 360 but I'm definitely gonna pick up an Elite. The bad part is I won't have enough until the beginning of May. I hope it's released at the end of April so I can pick it up the first week of May since the it's a limited edition.

BTW anyone know how limited the Halo Xbox was? Like was it hard to find when it was released or did they stay on shelves long?

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im just annoyed, i feel like ive been plamed off a second rate machine, i payed a massive amount of money for my 360 and then less than a year later i hear that they are bringing out a better version, ive payed full price for a half done machine and i feel jibbed, just my 2 centschaoscougar1
ugh that be life, always get shat on :(
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#128 F1sTDaCuffS
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[QUOTE="EMERlCa6969"]

I will get it, only because they claim it is more stableOnlookerDelay

According to Dean Takahashi (San Jose Mercury News), the Limited Edition "Elite" XBox 360 will not have the 65nm (more stable) processor. That won't come until the Fall and Microsoft releases the white Elite.

Here's the pertinant quote from his article about that:

"By the fall, the company will also implement a chip redesign, shifting from 90-nanometer production to 65 nanometer production. That will bring costs down fairly dramatically and will enable Microsoft to make the box in larger quantities by the fourth quarter."

 

so, your telling me that you think xbox is gonna come out with a white elite in the fall just because of "65" nan. i really don't think they wanna confuse people that much. thats too many choices of xboxs. that would be 3 to chose from. the only differnce a 65 nan does, it would give your product a better chance of lasting longer then the previous model and less breakdown if that. 

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#129 subrosian
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[QUOTE="ccgod"][QUOTE="subrosian"][QUOTE="ccgod"]I'm gonna get an HDMI monitor any idea if they're gonna have HDMI cables for the new 360 when it comes out?F1sTDaCuffS

You are aware HDMI is a standard port? If the 360 gains an HDMI port you'll be able to use any HDMI cable you want, the manufacturer of he cable does not matter.

but how would the sound work?? is it just like the cable i have now to hook it to a normal monitor just it's HDMI?

you need an optical cable, which is sperate, it goes with the type of surround sound that you have. i.e. bose, sony dream system. or some other type of sound system. but, its a little black door in the back, just put the optical cable thru that little black door.

HDMI cables carry sound. Plug the HDMI cable from your 360 into your receiver, then plug a second HDMI cable from your receiver into your HDTV. This assumes that you have a newer receiver which features HDMI pass-through.
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#130 F1sTDaCuffS
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i wonder about this. hdmi, is it as strong as an optical cable to carry sound. i highly doubt it. since its a fiber optic. but, if you do it the way you want then that would be an extra 100 dollars. for a cable that is made primary to carry video not sound. its only 50 dollars for optic cable. seems like a double negative to me. as to what your suggesting.
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#131 OfficialBed
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im fine with my 360...if i need a bigger hard drive, then i will get one....and i dont own an hdtv, so i couldnt care less about all the hdmi stuff
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#132 Bayani789
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If you want a black 360 just but this 45$ case.... lolz

 

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#133 zakaweb
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I have no problems. If I ever fill up the 20G drive I have I'll consider getting the larger drive. It does sound pretty though, it's tempting especially when you want the latest greatest. I wonder if the hdmi will also mean 1080p support. With my HDTV the image quality is superb as it is. Waiting to see what really comes of this.
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#134 mmdevs
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I'm good with what I have now. No need to buy a new system. If I ever fill up my hard drive I might consider buying the larger one but not anytime soon.
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#135 Saad3
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What is HDMI and does it make a difference in the game? Isnt 720p fine or somthin like that. I still say that the people who alreay own a 360 should stick with what they have and get the additional 120g HDD.

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#136 Saad3
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What is HDMI and does it make a difference in the game? Isnt 720p fine or somthin like that. I still say that the people who alreay own a 360 should stick with what they have and get the additional 120g HDD. WTF is Zephyr

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#137 Saad3
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so wht is HDMI excatly and how does it make a difference?
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#138 EMERlCa6969
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It is a digital video cable.  The image that your television recieves through HDMI is totally uncompressed.  No converting it from digital to analog etc.
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#139 eoplocust
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http://www.tgfcer.com/club/thread-5854409-1-1.html

pics check them out

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#140 dwells4life
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BTW anyone know how limited the Halo Xbox was? Like was it hard to find when it was released or did they stay on shelves long?

angelfly
Well I have a Halo edition xbox, No waiting or anything for me because I have connects =]
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#141 lukasz_erecinsk
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Someone posted those pictures of a massive stock of Elite's (perhaps the production line) they look very real to me. Sorry if old Link: http://www.tgfcer.com/club/thread-5854409-1-1.html
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#142 gamespotcrazy
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*Link a Fied...

http://news.teamxbox.com/xbox/13097/Xbox-360-Elite-Manufacturing-Photos/

 

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#143 SBurns22
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anyone know if costco will be getting these bad boys in?
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#144 subrosian
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It is a digital video cable. The image that your television recieves through HDMI is totally uncompressed. No converting it from digital to analog etc.EMERlCa6969
That's actually a common misconception. On all TVs their is processing to convert the image into something that is visible on the screen. The video card still must convert the signal into a standard, and the HDTV must still process the signal and scale it appropriately for the screen. This cannot be avoided. The difference with component vs HDMI mainly comes down to HDMI supporting HDCP, and HDMI carrying digital audio signals. It's great if your receiver accepts HDMI ... you pass through and you now only have two cables to run your entire home theater, pretty sweet. HDMI support is something that will matter in the future for downloaded content - however I don't honestly think it will become an issue before the Xbox 720 comes out - the HD industry has been very slow to develop.
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#145 lordking65
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*Link a Fied...

http://news.teamxbox.com/xbox/13097/Xbox-360-Elite-Manufacturing-Photos/

 

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omg

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#146 gorilazandgames
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GENTLEMEN! ONE WORD!!!

BELIEVE!

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#147 gorilazandgames
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also inf the zephyr has any hardware faults in it post launch buggies i will ofrver lose hope in microsoft and buy a freaking wii
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#148 STABW0UND
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*Link a Fied...

http://news.teamxbox.com/xbox/13097/Xbox-360-Elite-Manufacturing-Photos/

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photoshop woot woot
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#150 STABW0UND
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[QUOTE="STABW0UND"][QUOTE="gamespotcrazy"]

*Link a Fied...

http://news.teamxbox.com/xbox/13097/Xbox-360-Elite-Manufacturing-Photos/

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photoshop woot woot

U still dont believe geeze ur tough

i know engadnets history of BS rumors thats all.