READ THIS!!! Solution to crashes caused by overheating!! (Thanks for the sticky)

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[QUOTE="-Unreal-"] [QUOTE="soul_raver47"]Its falling back down please sticky it mods!!!-Unreal-

I agree it needs to be adressed by MS. But this is just a temporary fix. If it works, why wouldn't it be stickied. It could help A LOT of people until they release new PSUs.

OMG.... would you please shut up?

Hey dude, you got posted on the inquirer-

Good thread, congrats.

Great topic man.  Since I had overheating problems with my NES a long time ago, I have always used the "milk crate" type bins as stands for my consoles.  Anybody who has milk crates, or similar bins could use these as well.  Also, any kind of "bread rack" wire shelves. 

Again, great topic. 

[QUOTE="mjsoccer"]we need to tell everyone Goldeneyemaster

I agree I am sick of all those "My 360 just crashed!!!!!" topics when there is a very easy fix.

They shouldn't be crashing.

[QUOTE="mgsninja"][QUOTE="NickUK2001"]Well, this solution made 'the inquirer' so hopefully word will spread now and less people will be complaining :)
Goldeneyemaster

Wow I am surprised people actually wrote articles about this.

Wow, great publicity! Too bad it doesn't work ( er stop the freezing?) falstaff

It actually does stop a lot of the freezing.  It stopped all of the freezing for me except for the freezing in PDZ.

[QUOTE="Goldeneyemaster"]

[QUOTE="mgsninja"][QUOTE="NickUK2001"]Well, this solution made 'the inquirer' so hopefully word will spread now and less people will be complaining :)
falstaff

Wow I am surprised people actually wrote articles about this.

Wow, great publicity! Too bad it doesn't work ( er stop the freezing?) falstaff

It actually does stop a lot of the freezing.  It stopped all of the freezing for me except for the freezing in PDZ.

No I totally agree with you, What IS with PDZ.  When I called tech support the lady told me almost all of the people calling about freezing were having problems with PDZ.  I am very curious as to why PDZ freezes so much.  I played PGR3 and CoD2 each for about 3 hours and they didn't freeze once.  But when I start up PDZ it freezes after about 20 minutes.  Well I am getting my system replaced anyway by MS, hopefully that will fix it.

Hi, Do you have a photo of the label? I am curious to see what Chinese company made the Huge Brick. If you don't see a name of the company, if you can let me know the 4 digit code by the UL logo... Thanks, Brent Redwings88

Ok here are some pics of the label:

And this shows that it has to be good :roll:

I haven't read through the whole thread, (well only the first page) but is there a less shonky workaround to this?Jessie-

This is the easiest way I have found so far.

[QUOTE="JumpingMirrior"] [QUOTE="Redstorm"]

It's good to see that many of your freezing problems have been solved or that you have found a temporary solution. I tried putting my psu on an open box as pictured and put my 360 on another box, so that it sits up off the table about 2 inches (laying flat of course). Neither of these two fixes have worked for my system.

I spent 4 hours on hold (not all together) on 4 seperate calls to MS. They are sending me a box so that I can send my 360 in for repair. In the mean time, does anyone have any suggestions of what else I can try?

I went over to a friend's place last night, he has a 360 too. It was nice to see how the machine should be running and at the same time it was disappointing because mine doesn't work.

I haven't even turned my 360 on today, probably will do so as I can play for about 20 minutes before it freezes, but the thrill of having a new system is gone for now.

Redstorm

Thanks, guess I just have to wait for that box to come and then send the system in.  Very disappointing.

Does it overheat more if more things are plugged in?

I have been playing my X-Box 360 non-stop since Monday and I am honestly wondering if it is something to do with the Perfect Dark Zero discs as opposed to over-heating problems.

I had 4 games for my X-Box 360 on Monday: Gun, Tiger Woods 06, Kameo and Need for Speed most wanted and played them for a total of 5 hours straight, swapping each game every hour or so without turning the machine off and on, just using the media remote to open the drive and no crashes at all.

Played each game on and off for a few days then on Wednesday I bought Call of Duty 2 and Perfect Dark Zero. Put Call of Duty 2 in Wednesday night and played for 40 minutes with no problems then popped in Perfect Dark Zero and 10 minutes into the first level...Bam! The game freezes up. I turn the machine off then on again and I played for 40 minutes with no crashes.

Didn't get chance to play my X-Box 360 on thanksgiving but I turned it on today and started playing Perfect Dark Zero and 20 minutes into the game it freezes again. Turned it on and off and played for 20 minutes more then swapped the disc for Need for Speed Most Wanted and no problems then played Call of Duty 2 for 40 Minutes and again no crashing.

It just seems weird that Perfect Dark is the only game I seem to have trouble with, all my other games have not crashed once. I do notice the X-Box 360 feels warm after it is turned off but while it is turned on you can feel cool air blowing out of it and the machine feels cool when it is turned on. My power brick never seems to get hot but feels warm after use, but again nothing alarming.

I have tried moving the Power Brick to various positions but I still have problems with Perfect Dark. Has anyone tried calling Rare about the crashing problem?

I hope someone can solve this mystery as I just want to enjoy Perfect Dark and not wonder why I waisted my money on a $400 paper weight.

OMFG that power supply is huge!! i thought it was a joke

I have been playing my X-Box 360 non-stop since Monday and I am honestly wondering if it is something to do with the Perfect Dark Zero discs as opposed to over-heating problems.

I had 4 games for my X-Box 360 on Monday: Gun, Tiger Woods 06, Kameo and Need for Speed most wanted and played them for a total of 5 hours straight, swapping each game every hour or so without turning the machine off and on, just using the media remote to open the drive and no crashes at all.

Played each game on and off for a few days then on Wednesday I bought Call of Duty 2 and Perfect Dark Zero. Put Call of Duty 2 in Wednesday night and played for 40 minutes with no problems then popped in Perfect Dark Zero and 10 minutes into the first level...Bam! The game freezes up. I turn the machine off then on again and I played for 40 minutes with no crashes.

Didn't get chance to play my X-Box 360 on thanksgiving but I turned it on today and started playing Perfect Dark Zero and 20 minutes into the game it freezes again. Turned it on and off and played for 20 minutes more then swapped the disc for Need for Speed Most Wanted and no problems then played Call of Duty 2 for 40 Minutes and again no crashing.

It just seems weird that Perfect Dark is the only game I seem to have trouble with, all my other games have not crashed once. I do notice the X-Box 360 feels warm after it is turned off but while it is turned on you can feel cool air blowing out of it and the machine feels cool when it is turned on. My power brick never seems to get hot but feels warm after use, but again nothing alarming.

I have tried moving the Power Brick to various positions but I still have problems with Perfect Dark. Has anyone tried calling Rare about the crashing problem?

I hope someone can solve this mystery as I just want to enjoy Perfect Dark and not wonder why I waisted my money on a $400 paper weight.

andyy2b

i think the best way would be for everybody to just put their xbox360 in a mini fridge right next to their couches and just cut some holes to plug it into the tv plus if u ever get thirsty you can grab a soda lolX360PS3AMD05

[QUOTE="andyy2b"]

I have been playing my X-Box 360 non-stop since Monday and I am honestly wondering if it is something to do with the Perfect Dark Zero discs as opposed to over-heating problems.

I had 4 games for my X-Box 360 on Monday: Gun, Tiger Woods 06, Kameo and Need for Speed most wanted and played them for a total of 5 hours straight, swapping each game every hour or so without turning the machine off and on, just using the media remote to open the drive and no crashes at all.

Played each game on and off for a few days then on Wednesday I bought Call of Duty 2 and Perfect Dark Zero. Put Call of Duty 2 in Wednesday night and played for 40 minutes with no problems then popped in Perfect Dark Zero and 10 minutes into the first level...Bam! The game freezes up. I turn the machine off then on again and I played for 40 minutes with no crashes.

Didn't get chance to play my X-Box 360 on thanksgiving but I turned it on today and started playing Perfect Dark Zero and 20 minutes into the game it freezes again. Turned it on and off and played for 20 minutes more then swapped the disc for Need for Speed Most Wanted and no problems then played Call of Duty 2 for 40 Minutes and again no crashing.

It just seems weird that Perfect Dark is the only game I seem to have trouble with, all my other games have not crashed once. I do notice the X-Box 360 feels warm after it is turned off but while it is turned on you can feel cool air blowing out of it and the machine feels cool when it is turned on. My power brick never seems to get hot but feels warm after use, but again nothing alarming.

I have tried moving the Power Brick to various positions but I still have problems with Perfect Dark. Has anyone tried calling Rare about the crashing problem?

I hope someone can solve this mystery as I just want to enjoy Perfect Dark and not wonder why I waisted my money on a $400 paper weight.

falstaff

Don't waste your money.  I have two friends with PDZs (no 360s yet) and both of their copies froze also.

Bet you now they wish they had gone with the liquid cooling option...definitely next gen in my opinion. It's not too late to add that to the manufacturing process. Besides, it'll make up for the lack of stock nicely.JSein456

The CPU is water cooled

I've dealt with heating problems with PCs for years and, although I haven't received my 360 yet, the freezings sound consistent with heating issues.

Why Perfect Dark Zero freezes up more than other games can be explained.   Some games require more processing and load on the cores.  This, in turn, requires more power and produces more heat.  This is true with PC games as well.  Some games tax the processors and heat them up much more than other games.     PD seems to be a game that taxes the processors and produces more heat.

Well I got up at 8am this morning on a cold November day and tried playing Perfect Dark Zero again and the game froze after about 10 minutes of play. Both the power brick and the console felt pretty cool after turning off the machine.

When it freezes up the drive door still responds to the media remote, opens and closes, and the machine can still be turned off. I have never had my Circle of light on the front of the console show any red lights and have played it non stop for over 6 hours with no freezing on other games.

I wondered about Perfect Dark taking more of a toll on the system than other games but I am also wondering if the game is streaming info off of the disc while you play or loads everything into the X-Box 360 memory at which point that could be the problem, maybe something is becoming corrupted after loading the level into memory.

My copy seems to work after it crashes by turning the machine off then on again, which is strange. I thought bypassing the X-Box dashboard might be something to do with it but I tried that and still the game crashes the first time.

I am just curious but has anyone tried deleting their game save file and playing the game again after that? Also is everyone that is having freezing problems own the Hard drive or are they saving using the memory card? I am using the Hard drive for game saves.

It's really driving me nuts and makes me cautious about buying other games. I hope someone figures out what's going on or Microsoft admits there is a problem with some of the games or systems just so that we can all get it fixed.

Already called MS and I should be getting a replacement in a few weeks.  Its wierd how tiger woods works fine and nba live 06 and PDZ keep freezing up.  If anyone has additional solutions for the freezing problem let me know

The fact that you have to do this with the power supply is completely unacceptable. How f***ing dare they release the 360 with this issue. I shouldn't have to put the thing up in the air or worry about it overheating if it's not sitting in a good spot.

I'll never buy a 360 now, suck my ass Gates you ****

This is the same stratagey I use when I drag out my old Nintendo. It always does the trick. It seems odd that a NES could overheat but mine does and quite frankly terrifys me. I emulate now :(thegoldengrunt

You'll be happy to learn that the next Nintendo will allow you to download all NES, SNES, and Nintendo 64 games over the 'net.

Anywho, something a lot of people need to remember is that electronics (including the Xbox 360) were not meant to be kept on a carpeted floor. Carpet insulates, and will cause heat problems. If nothing else, you can lean the power brick next to a wall or keep it on a cool, flat surface.

I think it's a joke that people are having problems with their X-Box 360's. It's not like Microsoft doesn't have enough money or playtester's to make sure every single machine is up to scratch. I mean do Microsoft honestly think that every person in the world doesn't have some form of carpet in their house that perhaps they may end up putting a console on? or that some states or country's may be, oh I dunno, warm by nature? Do they expect everyone to have hardwood floors or tiles? or suspend the console in mid-air for maximum air release?

Yeah there may be solutions to the over-heating problem but seriously what do they expect us to do play the console in Antarctica? or place the power brick in the freezer to keep it cool? We shouldn't have to find a "solution" to any problem, for $400 I expect the machine to work perfectly regardless of where I play the thing.

I have seriously lost faith in Microsoft as a competent console manufacturer. They clearly rushed the release of the X-Box 360 to get the jump on Nintendo and Sony. Yet all they are doing is making consumers mad by having no consoles available and making game company's mad by limiting game sales, i'm sure even the biggest selling X-box 360 title hasn't even sold 250,000 copies yet.

I just want Microsoft to actually acknowledge that there is a problem with the 360 or the games and actually do something about it. Mailing off your 360 and waiting 2 weeks for it to return doesn't seem like a good solution to me. If we are forced to mail it off we should at least get a free game or some kind of consolodation for the hassle.

At this rate I will have no choice but to mail mine off and wait 2 weeks to see if it still has the same freezing problems.

Microsoft you are a joke.

I think it's a joke that people are having problems with their X-Box 360's. It's not like Microsoft doesn't have enough money or playtester's to make sure every single machine is up to scratch. I mean do Microsoft honestly think that every person in the world doesn't have some form of carpet in their house that perhaps they may end up putting a console on? or that some states or country's may be, oh I dunno, warm by nature? Do they expect everyone to have hardwood floors or tiles? or suspend the console in mid-air for maximum air release?

Yeah there may be solutions to the over-heating problem but seriously what do they expect us to do play the console in Antarctica? or place the power brick in the freezer to keep it cool? We shouldn't have to find a "solution" to any problem, for $400 I expect the machine to work perfectly regardless of where I play the thing.

I have seriously lost faith in Microsoft as a competent console manufacturer. They clearly rushed the release of the X-Box 360 to get the jump on Nintendo and Sony. Yet all they are doing is making consumers mad by having no consoles available and making game company's mad by limiting game sales, i'm sure even the biggest selling X-box 360 title hasn't even sold 250,000 copies yet.

I just want Microsoft to actually acknowledge that there is a problem with the 360 or the games and actually do something about it. Mailing off your 360 and waiting 2 weeks for it to return doesn't seem like a good solution to me. If we are forced to mail it off we should at least get a free game or some kind of consolodation for the hassle.

At this rate I will have no choice but to mail mine off and wait 2 weeks to see if it still has the same freezing problems.

Microsoft you are a joke.

andyy2b

I agree