Bioshock's violence towards children

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#1 theanalyzer411
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In a portionof one of thepreviews, we see a scene in which a man with a wrench approaches a little girl. His malevolent intentions are clearly evidenced by the way he is putting the wrench into and out of his left hand. The girl, to avoid the obvious result of his intentions, moves into an opening in the nearby wall, and the opening is about 5 feet off the ground. He grabs her by the hand and throws her down to the ground. Before he can inflict severe harm upon her, a big daddy approaches and intervenes.

Everyone who watches this chain of events should feel sick inside. This is very, very disturbing imagery. While violent gaming is, at least for now, the accepted norm, that does not imply that all forms of it should be tolerated. There is a limit, and Bioshock passed it. Even if the death of the little girl is the key to everyone's happiness in the game, I say: the ends do not justify the means, especially here. If the point is to show what happens when someone does this to a defenseless girl (the big daddy tries to kill him), it still goes too far. Numerous studies link violent imagery with violent behavior, and while I do not impute a malignant psychology toward anyone, images like this are just wrong, regardless of the context.

If you ask "why", I say, for one, out of many, many reasons, because it shows that despite the age of a person, if there is something that highlights the person as being different, than it is okay to inhumanely terminate her rights. Lastly, despite the possibly acceptable value of art and limited violence, don't forget: This is a CHILD!

thank you, and I appreciate comments.

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#2 Trickshot771
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You don't actually get to see your guy KILL the kid, and you can't shoot the kid either because they'll heal themselves. The game isn't about killing kids, you don't even have to do it. Get over yourself.
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#3 Radiozo
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Geez. Its just a game.
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#4 BounceDK
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You do know it's a game right?
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You do know it's a game right?BounceDK

Nobody remembers that anymore :|

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"In a recently released audio file, Levine clarifies that the player cannot physically harm a Little Sister directly, but can "harvest" the ADAM from them (a process which they will not survive). This will be presented via audio, and a black screen."
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#7 profbooger
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I felt the same way when i first heard that was the way you level up your character, but to my understanding you also have the option to save the little girl, although i may be wrong.
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#8 Trickshot771
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I felt the same way when i first heard that was the way you level up your character, but to my understanding you also have the option to save the little girl, although i may be wrong.profbooger

yeah you can save them and they turn back to normal

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#9 HandsomeDead
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This is almost as stupid as the idea of Resident Evil 5 being racist.
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#10 Peter_Darkstar
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Bioshock is supposed to be sick and twisted...thats kind of the point of having an underwater city filled with mutants, monsters, and genetic freaks...
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#11 nickyb628
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Don't forget, this is a GAME. If you can't understandthat fact, than you probably shouldn't be playing videogames.
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Wow, is this guy is sounding a little like Jack Thomson lol
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#13 ss_49
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Yea...'cause i'm dead certain that if you saw a psychotic little girl sucking tissue out of a corpse...the only thing on your mind would be her safety....RIIIIIIIGHT. :roll:

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I wouldn't go so far as to condone it for showing or implying that a little girl gets hurt. But coming from a parents point of view (I myself am a father of 2 little girls 5 and 10mo) It does make a feel a bit unerving. I will still play the game no problems, but just wait till you have kids and you might feel just a tad bit different.
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#15 Shrapnel99
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So what? Kids get killed in movies and no one cares...
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#16 mg25lax
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the little girl is evil though, an evil, life sucking girl who harvests off the dead. once the big daddy is gone, you can save her, or you harvest her. the game isnt about killing children. its about saving a city. if people find that offesive, then mankind is taking things too seriously.
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#18 capthavic
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Um I hope you are joking. All those studies are biased and/or fundamentally flawed. You sound like Jack Thompson.

As for Bioshock it's a mature game where you make meaningful mature choices. Do you harvest the Adam from the little sisters (which you don't actually see happen) so you can save Atlas's family or do you spare the girls and free them instead? It's not an easy black and white choice like most games have. And it's that sort of moral dilemma that separates it from games like Manhunt which only seek to shock you.

And don't forget: It's just a game!

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#19 bloodlust3192
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If you're going to take this game this seriously the don't play it you're obviously not mature enough. This is kind of like the topic in the halo 3 forum where this person was complaining about there being live animals in the game..like others have stated it's JUST A GAME. It's not real.
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This is almost as stupid as the idea of Resident Evil 5 being racist.HandsomeDead

All I saw was a bunch of black dudes trin to lynch a white guy. Wheres the racist in that? I don't see it.

Wow, is this guy is sounding a little like Jack Thomson lolmicrosoft4life

He is a Jack....

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#21 MassEffector
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[QUOTE="HandsomeDead"]This is almost as stupid as the idea of Resident Evil 5 being racist.deuceswld84

All I saw was a bunch of black dudes trin to lynch a white guy. Wheres the racist in that? I don't see it.

Wow, is this guy is sounding a little like Jack Thomson lolmicrosoft4life

He is a Jack....


You just said it.. the black people are racist towards the white dude.
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You don't actually get to see your guy KILL the kid, and you can't shoot the kid either because they'll heal themselves. The game isn't about killing kids, you don't even have to do it. Get over yourself.Trickshot771

dude that sucks, i actually wanted to bash the kids brains in.....

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[QUOTE="Trickshot771"]You don't actually get to see your guy KILL the kid, and you can't shoot the kid either because they'll heal themselves. The game isn't about killing kids, you don't even have to do it. Get over yourself.REforever101

dude that sucks, i actually wanted to bash the kids brains in.....

Same here.
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[QUOTE="REforever101"]

[QUOTE="Trickshot771"]You don't actually get to see your guy KILL the kid, and you can't shoot the kid either because they'll heal themselves. The game isn't about killing kids, you don't even have to do it. Get over yourself.BounceDK

dude that sucks, i actually wanted to bash the kids brains in.....

Same here.

Yeah, me too.
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#25 mg25lax
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[QUOTE="BounceDK"][QUOTE="REforever101"]

[QUOTE="Trickshot771"]You don't actually get to see your guy KILL the kid, and you can't shoot the kid either because they'll heal themselves. The game isn't about killing kids, you don't even have to do it. Get over yourself.RobbieH1234

dude that sucks, i actually wanted to bash the kids brains in.....

Same here.

Yeah, me too.

no matter how sick it sounds, same for me

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So what? Kids get killed in movies and no one cares...Shrapnel99
and cartoons and TV shows and in real life and sill people it's like "meh" but then you kill a kid in a videogame and people is like "zomg violence lol!!!11!1!" get over it and don't get the game. I don't care what people thinks if you get to harvest kids, I'll still do it happily and don't give a crap about it.
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I've seen worse images in movies, should we get rid of those too?
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Yawn, another parent groupie. This guy is a vag.

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#29 Trickshot771
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I've seen worse images in movies, should we get rid of those too?Ghost_Warrior

They're all ok unless a little girl dies :roll:

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#30 REforever101
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[QUOTE="Shrapnel99"]So what? Kids get killed in movies and no one cares...club-sandwich
and cartoons and TV shows and in real life and sill people it's like "meh" but then you kill a kid in a videogame and people is like "zomg violence lol!!!11!1!" get over it and don't get the game. I don't care what people thinks if you get to harvest kids, I'll still do it happily and don't give a crap about it.

yea club-sandwich u do that

and keep rocking that awesome re5 sig

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#31 GodfatherStatik
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I say it's America. Much worse stuff happens to people and children every day. Who's to say we shouldn't see it because it's immoral to a person or group of people? I personally think it's about time we see the gritty realistic violence as apposed to gallons of blood that wouldnt really exist. That's disturbing, yeah, but if you're a disturbed individual, that's the type of stuff that makes games and movies moving and intriguing. If you dont wanna see it, dont put yourself in that position. It's that easy.

And before anyone says it's not America in their country, then their country would just ban it. Have fun with that. I wanna be able to have the freedom to see that kinda stuff. I think they didnt go overboard, even if he killed the little girl. I think they're just showing the consumer what really can happen in this world. Earth isn't a joyous, harmonious place to live. It's chaotic and hectic and filled with evil people doing 'wrong' to help themselves. How you see it is your opinion. I think it's fresh that they're finally willing to put realistic events in games. If it makes you sick, they did what they wanted to do. We dont see movies like Hostel or Saw getting pulled. Why? Cuz if people dont wanna see that kinda **** they won't go see it. The same should start being applied to games. I wanna get games outta this whole "it's for kids; it's a toy" crap and into the adult's are welcome too media.

It's about damn time.

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#32 guitboxdude25
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this is aquote in the popular game magazine "egm" entitled "shooting holes in game-violence studies",i suggest you go out,and read this article before you get your pantys in a bunch,and come here stating what you think you know

"if this was all effecting kids in a bad way,we'd see something"-dr cheryl olson

its a very good artical,and makes alot of good sense.

im sure you could pick it up for less than 10 bucks

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In a portionof one of thepreviews, we see a scene in which a man with a wrench approaches a little girl. His malevolent intentions are clearly evidenced by the way he is putting the wrench into and out of his left hand. The girl, to avoid the obvious result of his intentions, moves into an opening in the nearby wall, and the opening is about 5 feet off the ground. He grabs her by the hand and throws her down to the ground. Before he can inflict severe harm upon her, a big daddy approaches and intervenes.

Everyone who watches this chain of events should feel sick inside. This is very, very disturbing imagery. While violent gaming is, at least for now, the accepted norm, that does not imply that all forms of it should be tolerated. There is a limit, and Bioshock passed it. Even if the death of the little girl is the key to everyone's happiness in the game, I say: the ends do not justify the means, especially here. If the point is to show what happens when someone does this to a defenseless girl (the big daddy tries to kill him), it still goes too far. Numerous studies link violent imagery with violent behavior, and while I do not impute a malignant psychology toward anyone, images like this are just wrong, regardless of the context.

If you ask "why", I say, for one, out of many, many reasons, because it shows that despite the age of a person, if there is something that highlights the person as being different, than it is okay to inhumanely terminate her rights. Lastly, despite the possibly acceptable value of art and limited violence, don't forget: This is a CHILD!

thank you, and I appreciate comments.

theanalyzer411

ITS JUST A GAME!!!!

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#34 mg25lax
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Yawn, another parent groupie. This guy is a vag.

killercuts3

loled at this.

if people dont wanna see that kinda **** they won't go see it. The same should start being applied to games. I wanna get games outta this whole "it's for kids; it's a toy" crap and into the adult's are welcome too media.

It's about damn time.

GodfatherStatik

totally agreed. the amount of violence and disturbing images in movies just get brushed off as like, oh, it was kind of nasty, but in a game, zomg!!!111!!! that person got shot!!! how terrible

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rated M for muture
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#36 Pwnager
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Ugh. GET OVER IT! ITS A VIDEO GAME!
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[QUOTE="RobbieH1234"][QUOTE="BounceDK"][QUOTE="REforever101"]

[QUOTE="Trickshot771"]You don't actually get to see your guy KILL the kid, and you can't shoot the kid either because they'll heal themselves. The game isn't about killing kids, you don't even have to do it. Get over yourself.mg25lax

dude that sucks, i actually wanted to bash the kids brains in.....

Same here.

Yeah, me too.

no matter how sick it sounds, same for me

same for me as well
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#38 gdizzle4545
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ommmmmmmmg a guy killing a little kid.

what about star wars ep 3 when anikin kills the little jedi kids? im pretty sure a crap load of families saw that and i didnt see any complaints

although it didnt show it. it does show the dead bodies. which will prob. be the same way with bioshock

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[QUOTE="mg25lax"][QUOTE="RobbieH1234"][QUOTE="BounceDK"][QUOTE="REforever101"]

[QUOTE="Trickshot771"]You don't actually get to see your guy KILL the kid, and you can't shoot the kid either because they'll heal themselves. The game isn't about killing kids, you don't even have to do it. Get over yourself.zaid55

dude that sucks, i actually wanted to bash the kids brains in.....

Same here.

Yeah, me too.

no matter how sick it sounds, same for me

same for me as well

Not for me. Violence towards kids is wrong. :)

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#40 55centv2
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You dont have to do it, even though i think you can. I havent really thought about it the way you say.
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[QUOTE="club-sandwich"][QUOTE="Shrapnel99"]So what? Kids get killed in movies and no one cares...REforever101

and cartoons and TV shows and in real life and sill people it's like "meh" but then you kill a kid in a videogame and people is like "zomg violence lol!!!11!1!" get over it and don't get the game. I don't care what people thinks if you get to harvest kids, I'll still do it happily and don't give a crap about it.

yea club-sandwich u do that

and keep rocking that awesome re5 sig

I'll happily do it :D can't wait to kill some little kids :D :| in a good way :|
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What YOU SEE and what YOU HEAR does affect you. Please don't be so naive as to think otherwise. Bioshock has gone to far, and I'll rejoice when it flops.
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#43 zaid55
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You dont have to do it, even though i think you can. I havent really thought about it the way you say. 55centv2
But then wheres the fun in the game????
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#44 RobbieH1234
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Not for me. Violence towards kids is wrong. :)

theanalyzer411
Then you should steer clear of Fallout 2.
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#45 mg25lax
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[QUOTE="zaid55"][QUOTE="mg25lax"][QUOTE="RobbieH1234"][QUOTE="BounceDK"][QUOTE="REforever101"]

[QUOTE="Trickshot771"]You don't actually get to see your guy KILL the kid, and you can't shoot the kid either because they'll heal themselves. The game isn't about killing kids, you don't even have to do it. Get over yourself.theanalyzer411

dude that sucks, i actually wanted to bash the kids brains in.....

Same here.

Yeah, me too.

no matter how sick it sounds, same for me

same for me as well

Not for me. Violence towards kids is wrong. :)

You broke the trend! How could you! :twisted:

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What YOU SEE and what YOU HEAR does affect you. Please don't be so naive as to think otherwise. Bioshock has gone to far, and I'll rejoice when it flops.dunamistheou

Too bad its already gotten a 10/10 from OXM and a 95% from PC Gamer. Doesn't look like you'll be rejoicing much.

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In a portionof one of thepreviews, we see a scene in which a man with a wrench approaches a little girl. His malevolent intentions are clearly evidenced by the way he is putting the wrench into and out of his left hand. The girl, to avoid the obvious result of his intentions, moves into an opening in the nearby wall, and the opening is about 5 feet off the ground. He grabs her by the hand and throws her down to the ground. Before he can inflict severe harm upon her, a big daddy approaches and intervenes.

Everyone who watches this chain of events should feel sick inside. This is very, very disturbing imagery. While violent gaming is, at least for now, the accepted norm, that does not imply that all forms of it should be tolerated. There is a limit, and Bioshock passed it. Even if the death of the little girl is the key to everyone's happiness in the game, I say: the ends do not justify the means, especially here. If the point is to show what happens when someone does this to a defenseless girl (the big daddy tries to kill him), it still goes too far. Numerous studies link violent imagery with violent behavior, and while I do not impute a malignant psychology toward anyone, images like this are just wrong, regardless of the context.

If you ask "why", I say, for one, out of many, many reasons, because it shows that despite the age of a person, if there is something that highlights the person as being different, than it is okay to inhumanely terminate her rights. Lastly, despite the possibly acceptable value of art and limited violence, don't forget: This is a CHILD!

thank you, and I appreciate comments.

theanalyzer411

And films, books and TV never shows anything bad happen to children. What a pointless post.

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[QUOTE="theanalyzer411"][QUOTE="zaid55"][QUOTE="mg25lax"][QUOTE="RobbieH1234"][QUOTE="BounceDK"][QUOTE="REforever101"]

[QUOTE="Trickshot771"]You don't actually get to see your guy KILL the kid, and you can't shoot the kid either because they'll heal themselves. The game isn't about killing kids, you don't even have to do it. Get over yourself.mg25lax

dude that sucks, i actually wanted to bash the kids brains in.....

Same here.

Yeah, me too.

no matter how sick it sounds, same for me

same for me as well

Not for me. Violence towards kids is wrong. :)

You broke the trend! How could you! :twisted:

lets hope it was sarcasim and go with the chain
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This is obviously a trolling post with a new level 3 GS account. Lame attempt to get attention.
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#50 SquallLeonhartt
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For the 100th time: you DON'T HAVE TOKILL those girls:evil: