I'm just shocked. I cried for him yesterday, and I pretty much can say I hate him today.WWEMAN101
I feel the same way man.
I'm just shocked. I cried for him yesterday, and I pretty much can say I hate him today.WWEMAN101
I feel the same way man.
After all the recent news on this topic, I honestly don't know what I believe in anymore. All I can do (personally) is hope time just lets me remember him more for the joy he provided in the ring than what has happened recently. Do I think thats right? Probably not. Let me live how I want.bulletproofcowthats how i want to remember him. As a great wrestler, not as a cold blooded killer
it disturbs me that investigators aren't look at outside sources as possible suspects. if you recall recently, there was a text message going to chavo, stating that the dogs had been fed, and the front door was left unlocked. i'm not pointing fingers, but there is just no possible way he could have done this on his own. distrbdslipsoad
I'm assuming the message was to let people know that they can get in the house to find the bodies.
I can't believe how the pastweekend has shaped up to be. It's unreal. It hasn't sunk in that Benoit is actually dead because the investigation as to the whole double murder-suicide account has overshadowed it entirely, along with his career unfortunately. I feel so bitter and sad by what he has done to himself, his family, his friends, and his fans. It's an evil betrayal that I personally think will never be explained. It has really took a toll on me to see him isolated, denied,and neglected today by pretty much everyone in his life. Some of you think he sure as hell deserves it but as a human being, I can't help feel sympathy towards him for some reason. It's so complicated to explain but I just do.
I don't think they're looking at outside sources, because there was no evidence of a break in, first and foremost, and those are things he could have done on his own.
But yeah, I'm shocked at all of this new info coming out about Benoit. Injecting his son with HGH because they think he's underdeveloped, and then the double murder-suicide.
On a different note - Poor Chavo. First finding Eddie dead, and now he gets the final two text messages from Benoit, apparently after he killed his family and before he killed himself. He has to be a total wreck right now.
DANIEL BENOIT HAD NEEDLE MARKS IN ARM, HAD BEEN TAKING GROWTH HORMONE
The story keeps getting more and more bizarre. In an interview with ESPN.com, District Attorney Scott Ballard reveals needle marks were found on the arms of Daniel Benoit and he had been injected with growth hormones because "the family considered him undersized".
CONTENTS OF ONE OF THE TEXT MESSAGES SENT BY BENOIT
1Wrestling.com has learned through several sources that one of the text messages sent by Chris Benoit early Sunday morning said "back door open, dogs have been fed".
This message, along with others received over the weekend, caused WWE officials to alert authorities and to ask them to go to the Benoit residence to investigate.
Reports state that "The dogs have been fed" meant that "Nancy & Daniel are dead".
DANIEL BENOIT HAD NEEDLE MARKS IN ARM, HAD BEEN TAKING GROWTH HORMONE
The story keeps getting more and more bizarre. In an interview with ESPN.com, District Attorney Scott Ballard reveals needle marks were found on the arms of Daniel Benoit and he had been injected with growth hormones because "the family considered him undersized".
CONTENTS OF ONE OF THE TEXT MESSAGES SENT BY BENOIT
1Wrestling.com has learned through several sources that one of the text messages sent by Chris Benoit early Sunday morning said "back door open, dogs have been fed".
This message, along with others received over the weekend, caused WWE officials to alert authorities and to ask them to go to the Benoit residence to investigate.
Reports state that "The dogs have been fed" meant that "Nancy & Daniel are dead".hbk91
why would he let somebody else, besides him, know about this? someone else was involved, i'm telling you.
WWE/Chris Benoit timeline
http://www.wwe.com/inside/news/chrisbenoittimeline
Written: June 26, 2007
On Saturday, June 23, Chris Benoit was slated to appear at a WWE live event in Beaumont, Texas. That afternoon, Benoit contacted WWE to inform them that his wife and child were ill, and that he would not be able to attend the show.
WWE executives rebooked Benoit's flight for the following morning, allowing Benoit to miss the Beaumont event making alternate arrangements for him to attend the pay-per-view event in Houston on Sunday.
WWE employees attempted to confirm with Benoit his travel plans but were unable to contact him.
Early Sunday morning, between 3:51 and 3:58 a.m., Benoit sent five text messages to co-workers:
Text Message 1 to two co-workers (sent 6/24 at 3:53am)- Chris Benoit's cell phone
"My physical address is 130 Green Meadow Lane, Fayetteville Georgia. 30215"
Text Message 2 to two co-workers (sent 6/24 at 3:53am)- Chris Benoit's cell phone
"The dogs are in the enclosed pool area. Garage side door is open"
Text Message 3 to two co-workers (sent 6/24 at 3:54am)- Nancy Benoit's cell phone
"My physical address is 130 Green Meadow Lane.
Fayetteville Georgia. 30215"
Text Message 4 to two co-workers (sent 6/24 at 3:55am)- Nancy Benoit's cell phone
"My physical address is 130 Green Meadow Lane.
Fayetteville Georgia. 30215
Text Message 5 to one co-worker (sent 6/24 at 3:58am)- Nancy Benoit's cell phone
"My address is 130 Green Meadow Lane. Fayetteville Georgia. 30215"
Throughout the day on Sunday, WWE made numerous attempts to contact Benoit both at home and at local hospitals in the Atlanta area. As of 11:00 p.m., WWE officials were unable to establish contact with Chris Benoit.
At 12:30 p.m. on Monday, June 25, WWE officials were notified of the text messages sent to the co-workers the previous day. By 12:45 p.m., WWE had contacted Fayetteville County Sheriff's office requesting they check on the Benoit family.
Fayetteville County Sheriffs office made contact with WWE at approximately 4:00 p.m. advising that they had entered the house of Chris Benoit and found three deceased bodies - an adult male, adult female and a male child. WWE was told that Benoit's home was now considered a major crime scene.
The decision to cancel the live event scheduled in Corpus Christi that night was made between 4:00 and 5:00 p.m. In keeping with company policy, and with limited knowledge regarding facts of the case, WWE choose to air a memorial dedicated to the career of Chris Benoit. As facts emerged surrounding the case, all tributes to Chris Benoit were removed both on-air and on WWE.com.
[QUOTE="distrbdslipsoad"]it disturbs me that investigators aren't look at outside sources as possible suspects. if you recall recently, there was a text message going to chavo, stating that the dogs had been fed, and the front door was left unlocked. i'm not pointing fingers, but there is just no possible way he could have done this on his own. wallymartin
I'm assuming the message was to let people know that they can get in the house to find the bodies.
that's the reason. they reported that the text messages were sent after he had killed his son on Saturday. telling Chavo that the gate was open and the dogs were out were to make sure someone found the bodies.
edit: or i guess not. i didn't see the posts previous to mine.
- 411's own Larry Csonka spoke in detail about the Chris Benoit situation during an appearance today on The Ultimate Sports Show. Check out the audio stream of Larry's appearance by clicking here.
- The Chris Benoit story was the lead item on The O'Reilly Factor on FOX News earlier tonight. No new ground was broken. Host Bill O'Reilly mainly tried to show a connection between steroids and the Benoit tragedy. He also brought up the fact that over 60 pro-wrestlers age 45 and under have died, and that something needs to be done about it.
credit: 411mania.com
- The Chris Benoit story was the lead item on The O'Reilly Factor on FOX News earlier tonight.credit: 411mania.com
-Karmum-
Oh god, that's the last thing this story needs.
I guess it could be worse though, Nancy Grace could cover it.
Below is a detailed WWE/Chris Benoit timeline from Saturday to Monday:
Saturday, June 23, 2007
Chris Benoit was scheduled to appear at the WWE Smackdown/ ECW live event in Beaumont, Texas
3:30pm
A co-worker received a voice message from Benoit. The message from Benoit stated he missed his flight and over slept and would be late to the WWE Live Event. The co-worker called Benoit back, Benoit confirmed everything he said in his voice message and sounded tired and groggy. Benoit then stated, "I love you". The co-worker stated that it was "out of context."
3:42pm
The same co-worker was concerned with Benoit's tone and demeanor and called Benoit for a second time. Benoit did not answer the call and the co-worker left a message stating "just call me back."
3:44pm
Benoit called the co-worker back stating he didn't answer the call because he was on the phone with Delta changing his flight. Benoit stated he had a real stressful day due to Nancy and Daniel being sick with food poisoning. They discussed travel plans for the WWE Tour of Texas with Benoit still sounding groggy at this point according to the co-worker.
4:30pm
A co-worker who consistently travels with Benoit, called Benoit from outside Houston airport and Benoit answered. Benoit told the co-worker that Nancy was throwing up blood and that Daniel was also throwing up. Benoit thought they had food poisoning. Benoit stated he changed his flight and he would be arriving into Houston at 6:30pm. Benoit told the co-worker to drive onto the WWE event.
5:35pm
Benoit called WWE Talent Relations stating that his son was throwing up and that he and Nancy were in the hospital with their son, and that Benoit would be taking a later flight into Houston, landing late, but would make the WWE live event in Beaumont.
6:10pm
A representative of Talent Relations called Benoit. The representative from Talent Relations asked Benoit what time Benoit was getting into Beaumont. Benoit responded he was leaving Atlanta at 9:20pm Eastern time arriving into Houston at 9:24pm Central time. The representative from Talent Relations advised Benoit that it would be too late to make the WWE live event in Beaumont. Benoit apologized citing he had a family emergency. The representative from Talent Relations suggested to Benoit that instead of going to the WWE live event in Beaumont, Benoit should take the flight to Houston, rest up and be ready for the Vengeance Pay-Per-View event.
6:13pm
The representative from Talent Relations called Benoit to reconfirm the travel plans with no answer from Benoit. The representative from Talent Relations left a voice message to take the flight and rest up.
Sunday, June 24, 2007
Text messages sent to co-workers from Chris Benoit and Nancy Benoit's cell phones:
Text Message 1
Sent to: Two Co-Workers (the same who had verbal correspondence with Benoit the day before)
From: Benoit's cell phone
When: 6/24 at 3:53am from
Message: C, S. My physical address is 130 Green Meadow Lane. Fayetteville Georgia. 30215
Text Message 2
Sent to: Two Co-Workers (the same who had verbal correspondence with Benoit the day before)
From: Benoit's cell phone
When: 6/24 at 3:53am
Message: The dogs are in the enclosed pool area. Garage side door is open
Text Message 3
Sent to: Two Co-Workers (the same who had verbal correspondence with Benoit the day before)
From: Nancy Benoit's cell phone
When: 6/24 at 3:54am
Message: C, S. My physical address is 130 Green Meadow Lane. Fayetteville Georgia. 30215
Text Message 4
Sent to: Two Co-Workers (the same who had verbal correspondence with Benoit the day before)
From: Nancy Benoit's cell phone
When: 6/24 at 3:55am
Message: C, S. My physical address is 130 Green Meadow Lane. Fayetteville Georgia. 30215
Text Message 5
Sent to: A Co-Worker who consistently traveled with Benoit
From: Nancy Benoit's cell phone
When: 6/24 at 3:58am
Message: My address is 130 Green Meadow Lane. Fayetteville Georgia. 30215
WWE made several attempts to contact Benoit via phone and text messages, as well as, the local hospitals in the Atlanta area. As of 11:00 pm Sunday night there was no contact made with Benoit.
Monday, June 25, 2007
12:30pm
WWE was notified of text messages sent to the two co-workers.
12:45pm
WWE contacted the Fayetteville County Sheriff's office and requested them to go to Benoit's
residence
4:00pm
WWE received a call from the Fayetteville County Sheriff's office, advising that they entered
the house of Benoit and found 3 deceased bodies (a male, a female and a child). The Fayetteville Sheriff's office has secured the house as a "major crime scene" and that the Fayetteville County Sheriff's Office had no further information.
SOURCE: WWE.com
I heard yesterday the he left a note. I'm not sure how credible the site was, I believe someone posted it in this thread.
Anyway, if it was even made, and gets released it could be really helpful.
i cried so hard in the first 10 minutes of the benoit tribute show. and i would really like to know that all of those phone calls were made. and maybe benoit knew both his wife and son were going to die, and took them out of their missery. and maybe sometime after he felt like total crap and just decided to kill himself.
this is such a sad thing to hear about. and i will still always remember chris for all of the wonderful things he did in the ring and out, despite this tragic event
Canadian female Pam Winthrope told News 1130 in Canada that Chris Benoit's son had a genetic condition called Fragile X syndrome.
According to WebMD, "Fragile X Syndrome is a defect of the X chromosome which causes mild mental retardation. The disorder occurs more frequently and severely among males than females. This condition is the leading known familial cause of mental retardation in the United States. Language delays, behavioral problems, autism or autistic-like behavior (including poor eye contact and hand-flapping), enlarged external genitalia (macroorchidism), large or prominent ears, hyperactivity, delayed motor development and/or poor sensory skills are among the wide range of symptoms associated with this disorder."
Winthrope, whose son also suffers from the condition, told the Canadian news outlet that her husband reached out to Benoit five years ago in an attempt to increase awareness about Fragile X.
She told News 1130, "We talked to him because I was trying to set up a support group in BC and in Canada, we only have a couple of them. My husband was struggling when we got diagnosed with our son, and Chris was struggling with his. They talked for a few minutes and then he said he didn't want to be a public face for Fragile X, he just wanted to keep it really, really quiet."
Winthrope noted that the lack of support for those affected by the disorder can tear families apart. Nonetheless, "she couldn't believe the news that Benoit had taken his life along with his wife and 7-year-old son," wrote News 1130.
This may explain why Daniel was taking growth hormone injections. It also may shed light onto why Chris didn't want someone else raising his son and made the fateful decision to kill him. As irrational and twisted as it may sound, he may have felt he was saving his son from the double-blow of losing his parents through a murder-suicide and being subject to being raised by people who didn't understand or care for his condition.
This does make me consider that he felt it was the right thing to do by killing his son.
its dumb to even argue with all of you anymore..
i obviously have different views about the human mind, religion and humanity in general than all of you. i believe that the benoit that killed his family and the benoit who won the world heavyweight championship at wrestlemania XX are two different people. i can still watch his matches and enjoy them because i'm not watching a murderer, i'm watching the best the industry has to offer.
yes he killed his family, yes that's ****ed up. but it's over, you can't change that can you? what's getting angry in an internet forum going to do? you all loved benoit on sunday, i did too. and i still do. i'm not going to judge a person because i can't possibly know what they were going through. and all you religious guys, let God decide if he's a good person or not, that's his job not yours.
this is my last post in this thread as i have said all i have needed to say.
I just got home to watch Raw... and I am SPEECHLESS. I dont believe this. If this Vince storyline isnt immediately dropped I will never watch a WWE program again, and thats a promise. Death is NOT an acceptable storyline anymore.SeriousThreat
when was it ever acceptable, seriously, when i got home and i heard benoit had died i just said yeah...right, but then i did a little bit of research and my heart sunk, beniot was one of my favorites ever since i started watching years ago, buti always try to look on the bright side and i see a tiny bit of good coming out of this and that is that maybeVince will learn that deathis a horrible thingand shouldnt but made a mockery of, and even though many ofus probly preferd Vince when he was dead, hopefully he wont do acompletly effing stupid thing like that again, goodbye beniot, you will be missedRIP Chris Beniot
its dumb to even argue with all of you anymore.. Mu5uk0
we get it. you're gonna still like him as a wrestler. get off your high horse. some of us can't get over the fact that a hero to some of us and a wrestler we all respected and loved is dead and along with that, murdered his wife and 7 year old son. it's only been over 24 hours. let people sort this out their own way.
and do you go to any other wrestling forums? WEForums.com (the biggest wrestling forum on the internet) is pretty much 90% all disgusted and acting the way most of us are here. Gamingring is the same and are Gamefaqs and other wrestling forums.
please, just don't post in this thread anymore if all you're gonna do is make us feel bad for feeling disgusted at Benoit and not being able to look past it and see how much good he's done for wrestling. i know you've made me feel even more like sh*t with all the responses and comments you've had towards what i've said.
sephy37, i agree with you.
Mu6uk0, I'm happy that your ok with it. Thats great. But I'm not. So stop talking like your way is the way everyone els should feel about the situation. Last time I checked this is a free country and I can feel however way i want to feel. And don't make people feel like sh!t because we don't see what you see.
Maybe it is best if you move on. It would save us all a lot of anger that we don't need at the moment.
[QUOTE="Mu5uk0"]its dumb to even argue with all of you anymore.. sephy37
we get it. you're gonna still like him as a wrestler. get off your high horse. some of us can't get over the fact that a hero to some of us and a wrestler we all respected and loved is dead and along with that, murdered his wife and 7 year old son. it's only been over 24 hours. let people sort this out their own way.
and do you go to any other wrestling forums? WEForums.com (the biggest wrestling forum on the internet) is pretty much 90% all disgusted and acting the way most of us are here. Gamingring is the same and are Gamefaqs and other wrestling forums.
please, just don't post in this thread anymore if all you're gonna do is make us feel bad for feeling disgusted at Benoit and not being able to look past it and see how much good he's done for wrestling. i know you've made me feel even more like sh*t with all the responses and comments you've had towards what i've said.
youre right. absolutely. i was too busy trying to cope with this my own way that i didn't realise that it obviously would be harder for others. i'm not being sarcastic or anything, i truly am sorry.
like you all need anything to make this experience worse.
halo2_norad: i'm anything but ok with it. i just have my own beliefs about the situation and i was confused as to why others couldn't see it in the same way.
the variation of opinion and various comments from people i read just angered me (no specific comments) to the point where i needed to vent.
sorry.
its dumb to even argue with all of you anymore..
i obviously have different views about the human mind, religion and humanity in general than all of you. i believe that the benoit that killed his family and the benoit who won the world heavyweight championship at wrestlemania XX are two different people. i can still watch his matches and enjoy them because i'm not watching a murderer, i'm watching the best the industry has to offer.
yes he killed his family, yes that's ****ed up. but it's over, you can't change that can you? what's getting angry in an internet forum going to do? you all loved benoit on sunday, i did too. and i still do. i'm not going to judge a person because i can't possibly know what they were going through. and all you religious guys, let God decide if he's a good person or not, that's his job not yours.
this is my last post in this thread as i have said all i have needed to say.
Mu5uk0
i agree with you. this thread is insane.
asnwer me this. i understand that alot of you think of benoit as a killer. but what do you think of stone cold? i'll explain after i get answers.
i know they probably already did this, but what information is there abou fingerprints? somethings just dont add up. he hated religion, but placed bibles by thier sides. idk. its crazy.
[QUOTE="sephy37"][QUOTE="Mu5uk0"]its dumb to even argue with all of you anymore.. Mu5uk0
we get it. you're gonna still like him as a wrestler. get off your high horse. some of us can't get over the fact that a hero to some of us and a wrestler we all respected and loved is dead and along with that, murdered his wife and 7 year old son. it's only been over 24 hours. let people sort this out their own way.
and do you go to any other wrestling forums? WEForums.com (the biggest wrestling forum on the internet) is pretty much 90% all disgusted and acting the way most of us are here. Gamingring is the same and are Gamefaqs and other wrestling forums.
please, just don't post in this thread anymore if all you're gonna do is make us feel bad for feeling disgusted at Benoit and not being able to look past it and see how much good he's done for wrestling. i know you've made me feel even more like sh*t with all the responses and comments you've had towards what i've said.
youre right. absolutely. i was too busy trying to cope with this my own way that i didn't realise that it obviously would be harder for others. i'm not being sarcastic or anything, i truly am sorry.
like you all need anything to make this experience worse.
halo2_norad: i'm anything but ok with it. i just have my own beliefs about the situation and i was confused as to why others couldn't see it in the same way.
the variation of opinion and various comments from people i read just angered me (no specific comments) to the point where i needed to vent.
sorry.
its okay Mu5uk0. im on ur side. but i say we just forget about this chris benoit nonsense. whats done is done. get on with ur lives.
Canadian female Pam Winthrope told News 1130 in Canada that Chris Benoit's son had a genetic condition called Fragile X syndrome.
batistafan99
God... this gets more and more bizzare for every hour.
I still respect Chris Benoit as wrestler and always will,but as a person I'm shocked and still overwhelmed by what he did and how he will forever be looked upon as by not just the wrestling world ,but by the whole world all together.
He was so inspirational to wrestlers wanting to get into wrestling,coming up in wrestling and even some experienced wrestlers that have been around either the same amount of time or even longer than him and to know now because of his actions that as of right now have no motive behind them,he will never be a Hall of Famer or get acknowledged in any other way for what he has done in wrestling and in life in general.
Personally I looked up to Benoit as a role model as to what a great wrestler is and what a real wrestler should be and when I wrestled Benoit had an effect on some parts of me in the aggressive style of fighting and mentality,I was not as much of a technical wrestler as he was,but if as one of my inspirations in wrestling,Benoit was up there near the top and like I said already,many,many others feel the same way as in regards to Chris Benoit having an effect on their wrestling career in some way,shape or form.
This has to be the hardest gut-wrenching tragedy in wrestling and in my life as Benoit was a truly tragic and heart breaking loss,but his death is only half the the heart ache as the death of his wife and son are taking a devastating toll as they lost their lives at the hands of Chris Benoit.
All I have to say is that even if there is a motive found and revealed,I still wont ever believe this tragedy or be at peace with what not only his death,but the the unthinkable act the he committed to his wife,son and himself.
This is without a doubt one of the most saddening times in my f***ing life....that's all I got.
its okay Mu5uk0. im on ur side. but i say we just forget about this chris benoit nonsense. whats done is done. get on with ur lives.
This is far from being nonsense and it is very f***ing hard to recover from a tragedy so painful as this is
You can get on with your damn life and forget about it and just let all of the wrestling fans who cared about Benoit and the disturbing s*** thats gone down this past couple of days.
I realize your expressing your opinion on the matter and thats all good and whatever,but I'm also expressing mine about the tragedy and your opinion on it as well.
Take it how ever you want to..I don't really care.
i agree with you. this thread is insane.
asnwer me this. i understand that alot of you think of benoit as a killer. but what do you think of stone cold? i'll explain after i get answers.
i know they probably already did this, but what information is there abou fingerprints? somethings just dont add up. he hated religion, but placed bibles by thier sides. idk. its crazy.
Invisible_Kid2
he's a beer drinking, ass kicking, wife beating SOB. Same as all the other rednecks. so... Did you ever see Blue Colar TV?
I got modded on gamefaqs for calling benoit a murderer, and challenging the people who said they still respected him. needless to say, I think the people at gamespot who say they still respect benoit have a lot of growing up to do. Murdering a child is inexcusable.
"The only thing necessary for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing." -Edmund Burke
I got modded on gamefaqs for calling benoit a murderer, and challenging the people who said they still respected him. needless to say, I think the people at gamespot who say they still respect benoit have a lot of growing up to do. Murdering a child is inexcusable.
"The only thing necessary for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing." -Edmund BurkeMarkSmith
i think you need to grow up and realise that just because you feel someway about something doesn't make it right. respect the fact that other people have opinions on the matter and leave it at that. all you're doing by saying stupid things like that is provoking an argument that can never be settled.
oh and here are some quotes for you, they mean nothing to me but you seem to think quoting someone makes you right.
"Murder is born of love, and love attains the greatest intensity in murder" - Octave Mirbea
"Let he who is without sin cast the first stone" Jesus Christ
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