Microsoft is getting slaughtered by the press regarding XB1

Below is some links to various articles about the XB1. It's not looking good at all for Microsoft.

• BBC: Xbox One: Microsoft defends pre-owned games rules
• Blorge: Why gamers hate the Xbox One
• Complex: Microsoft Finally Reveals Xbox One Details, It's Mostly All Bad News
• Destructoid: Xbox One kills game ownership, here's what Xbox fans say
• Eurogamer: Microsoft kills game ownership and expects us to smile
• Forbes Contributor: Microsoft Confirms Gamers' Fears Over Xbox One
• Forbes Contributor (2): Microsoft's Shortsighted Approach Might Have Already Killed Xbox One
• Forbes Contributor (3): The Xbox One Might Let Sony's PS4 Win By Default
• Giant Bomb: The Giant Bomb staff deciphers the digital-rights policies for Microsoft's new console through interpretive dance
• Kotaku: The Xbox One Just Had A Very Bad Day
• Kotaku (2): When Will Gamers Say Enough Is Enough?
• LazyGamer: Microsoft confirms insane Xbox One DRM
• MCV UK: Indie retailers desperate for Xbox One pre-owned answers
• MCV UK (2): Publishers quiet over Xbox One pre-owned intentions
• Metro UK: Xbox One and the corporate war against consumers
• NowGamer: Xbox One: It's For Publishers, Not For You
• PC Magazine: Microsoft Xbox One: No Internet? Big Problem
• Polygon: Xbox One policy is a lovely marriage proposal to big corporations
• TechnoBuffalo: Xbox One and Used, Borrowed and Sold Games The Official Word
• TechnoBuffalo (2): Xbox One: Unless Microsoft Changes Their Policies, Im Out
• TechRadar: Xbox One 'always online': What does it mean for gamers?
• TechSpot: Xbox One will force gamers to stay online after all
• The Diplomat: Has Microsoft Already Ruined the Xbox One?
• The Guardian: Xbox One requires daily net connection
• The Wall Street Journal: Microsofts Xbox One: Owning Your Video Games Is So 1994
• Time: Microsofts Xbox One Used Games Policies Are Clear as Mud
• VG247: Xbox One: the record is broken, long live the record
• WhatCulture!: Xbox One: 10 Shocking Things You Wont Believe

*Thanks to GAF for the list*

They have E3 to packpedal or to fully commit to these draconian anti consumer policies.

and they should be. almost everything about their new console sounds awful. mems_1224

They have E3 to packpedal or to fully commit to these draconian anti consumer policies.

SolidTy

First - you have WAY too much time on your hands :P Second - They should. The used game rules are stupid. Third - Sony is smart. They will most likely have something similar, but they are letting MS take the heat :Pnavyguy21

Got this list from GAF :P I'll update the OP.

and they should be. almost everything about their new console sounds awful. mems_1224

They have E3 to packpedal or to fully commit to these draconian anti consumer policies.

SolidTy

I think they've made some poor decisions regarding the global market, particularly emerging markets where internet availability makes the Xbone more or less irrelevant, but I really struggle to see anything on that list of proposals which either doesn't exist already or isn't clearly and obviously inevitable in the near future.

Sony are making a gamers machine, and I think they will be applauded for that by gamers. Like a lot of Sony electronics though, I think it'll ultimately be a bad decision. No matter how beloved their next platform may be by gamers, the days of the traditional games console and the traditional game itself are numbered. There will most certainly be a Playstation 5 in a few years time. I cant see Microsoft making a new box ever again.

[QUOTE="mems_1224"]and they should be. almost everything about their new console sounds awful. legalize82

[QUOTE="Ninja-Hippo"][QUOTE="mems_1224"]Didn't everyone hate the shit out of the iPad when it was announced? Now look at it :lol:legalize82

[QUOTE="SolidTy"]

They have E3 to packpedal or to fully commit to these draconian anti consumer policies.

Ninja-Hippo

I think they've made some poor decisions regarding the global market, particularly emerging markets where internet availability makes the Xbone more or less irrelevant, but I really struggle to see anything on that list of proposals which either doesn't exist already or isn't clearly and obviously inevitable in the near future.

Sony are making a gamers machine, and I think they will be applauded for that by gamers. Like a lot of Sony electronics though, I think it'll ultimately be a bad decision. No matter how beloved their next platform may be by gamers, the days of the traditional games console and the traditional game itself are numbered. There will most certainly be a Playstation 5 in a few years time. I cant see Microsoft making a new box ever again.

It's not like Steam. I can buy a physical disk for the Xbone. For steam I can only download games. The Xbone has a 24 hour check period, steam has a month before it asks to connect to the internet. Couple that with massive sales and competiton such as GOG, Xbone is not even close to steam as a service. 

[QUOTE="navyguy21"]First - you have WAY too much time on your hands :P Second - They should. The used game rules are stupid. Third - Sony is smart. They will most likely have something similar, but they are letting MS take the heat :PTigerSuperman

WTF are you talking about saying nothing.?

MS confirmed DRM for xbox one and online always require dude there is nothing more to say.. is game over..

Everything will bet brought to light & set in stone come E3. Until then all there is speculation and hatred. Once MS makes things official & Sony shows their final hand, then we'll all know exactly what to say. 

[QUOTE="TigerSuperman"][QUOTE="navyguy21"]First - you have WAY too much time on your hands :P Second - They should. The used game rules are stupid. Third - Sony is smart. They will most likely have something similar, but they are letting MS take the heat :Ptormentos

WTF are you talking about saying nothing.?

MS confirmed DRM for xbox one and online always require dude there is nothing more to say.. is game over..

[QUOTE="TigerSuperman"][QUOTE="navyguy21"]First - you have WAY too much time on your hands :P Second - They should. The used game rules are stupid. Third - Sony is smart. They will most likely have something similar, but they are letting MS take the heat :Ptormentos

WTF are you talking about saying nothing.?

MS confirmed DRM for xbox one and online always require dude there is nothing more to say.. is game over..

Good news for kaz lol.

It is still gonna sell like crazy.

PS4 reminds me an awful lot of PSP and Vita. A great machine for gamers which garners a lot of love and hype from gamers, but ultimately it's the reason why Sony are in the financial mess they're in. They're going around the same circle of offering gamers better hardware and better graphics and the same fundamental experiences every few years. PSP showed that people didn't care about graphics. Vita has demonstrated that ten fold. PS4 I think may be the same. Graphics have reached a level of fidelity now that I really doubt the next COD or Madden will look good enough to urge many people to run out and replace the PS3 they already own, which still feels perfectly capable. Microsoft have made a machine not aimed to appease gamers at all from the looks of things, but I have no doubt it will probably be a successful and popular machine because it's more in-tune with the future and what the broader population wants. The always-on, always-connected, cloud-based, all your games stored online, instant-gratification kind of setup is rejected from traditional gamers but exactly what people have wanted and bought into with every other entertainment industry. Look at iTunes, Netflix, Kindle. Microsoft want the xbox to be the gaming equivalent of those services. An entertainment service provider moreso than a platform holder.Ninja-Hippo

Stop been a joke the reason why sony is in financial problems was the damn PS3 which they give player to much for to little,it was to expensive to make and they pay for it.

I hate people like you who defend companies like MS who all they do is rip off people,and then you flame sony who yeah loss a ton of money by giving people the best hardware a dollar has even buy in terms of value.

Is incredible how you give MS who just strip you of your rights as a gamer to sell something you legally own and give sony such a hard time,people like you deserve to be rip off by companies like MS,we have a say here that people get what they deserve..

what is funny to me is that regular consumers  won't remember this was all negative stories.

all they will rem this fall is xbox xbox xbox.

sorry but that is just human nature.

toyota sales increased during the middle of a huge recall in which the cars accelerated uncontrollably and were plowing into things.

why?

because they got free commercials on the news every night.

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2011-03-01/toyota-s-u-s-sales-surge-42-unhurt-by-recalls-nissan-hyundai-climb.html

life is funny.  ;)

[QUOTE="tormentos"]

[QUOTE="TigerSuperman"] Yes, MS not saying anything is hurting them bad, If if they debunk(and they will) all the rumors and statements, the air of anger and backslashing and all the people claiming everything is fact and MS purposefully saying nothing at all will be at a point where if Sony introduced the EXACT SAME features as is rumored for Xbox One they would get less backlash.Ninja-Hippo

WTF are you talking about saying nothing.?

MS confirmed DRM for xbox one and online always require dude there is nothing more to say.. is game over..

[QUOTE="Ninja-Hippo"][QUOTE="tormentos"]

WTF are you talking about saying nothing.?

MS confirmed DRM for xbox one and online always require dude there is nothing more to say.. is game over..

legalize82

quick EDIT: I can never be a 'true gamer' as I've already lost my virginity and graduated college.

They deserve the backlash.

PS4 reminds me an awful lot of PSP and Vita. A great machine for gamers which garners a lot of love and hype from gamers, but ultimately it's the reason why Sony are in the financial mess they're in. They're going around the same circle of offering gamers better hardware and better graphics and the same fundamental experiences every few years. PSP showed that people didn't care about graphics. Vita has demonstrated that ten fold. PS4 I think may be the same. Graphics have reached a level of fidelity now that I really doubt the next COD or Madden will look good enough to urge many people to run out and replace the PS3 they already own, which still feels perfectly capable. Microsoft have made a machine not aimed to appease gamers at all from the looks of things, but I have no doubt it will probably be a successful and popular machine because it's more in-tune with the future and what the broader population wants. The always-on, always-connected, cloud-based, all your games stored online, instant-gratification kind of setup is rejected from traditional gamers but exactly what people have wanted and bought into with every other entertainment industry. Look at iTunes, Netflix, Kindle. Microsoft want the xbox to be the gaming equivalent of those services. An entertainment service provider moreso than a platform holder.Ninja-Hippo

Exactly most gamer hate steam when it's first launch and the said it's anti custumer bla bla bla well look at it now ,microsoft say that they will not control games price on xbox marketplace who know maybe it will become steam like

[QUOTE="legalize82"][QUOTE="Ninja-Hippo"] They haven't confirmed DRM for the Xbone any more so than Sony have. They've just said they will allow publishers to do it if they want, but that they personally will not. Isn't that exactly what Sony's statement was? If xbone lets publishers stop you trading games, Sony more or less have to. They cant be in competition with a box that publishers prefer to theirs.Ninja-Hippo

quick EDIT: I can never be a 'true gamer' as I've already lost my virginity and graduated college.

Man fvck Call of Duty and sh*t like it. Let's talk about first party. Sony already said they wont have drm for that, but Microsoft will. Now what?

Bigboi500

[QUOTE="Ninja-Hippo"]PS4 reminds me an awful lot of PSP and Vita. A great machine for gamers which garners a lot of love and hype from gamers, but ultimately it's the reason why Sony are in the financial mess they're in. They're going around the same circle of offering gamers better hardware and better graphics and the same fundamental experiences every few years. PSP showed that people didn't care about graphics. Vita has demonstrated that ten fold. PS4 I think may be the same. Graphics have reached a level of fidelity now that I really doubt the next COD or Madden will look good enough to urge many people to run out and replace the PS3 they already own, which still feels perfectly capable. Microsoft have made a machine not aimed to appease gamers at all from the looks of things, but I have no doubt it will probably be a successful and popular machine because it's more in-tune with the future and what the broader population wants. The always-on, always-connected, cloud-based, all your games stored online, instant-gratification kind of setup is rejected from traditional gamers but exactly what people have wanted and bought into with every other entertainment industry. Look at iTunes, Netflix, Kindle. Microsoft want the xbox to be the gaming equivalent of those services. An entertainment service provider moreso than a platform holder.nyzma23

Exactly most gamer hate steam when it's first launch and the said it's anti custumer bla bla bla well look at it now ,microsoft say that they will not control games price on xbox marketplace who know maybe it will become steam like