wow, its true what they say: "graphics are a gimmick"

[QUOTE="AvinashTyagi"][QUOTE="coolguy1111"]Since when does something being popular make it better? KB/M+360 controller+wheel=all you want. PC gaming>wii. face it sheep, next year we will have wii emus out. Thats how weak it is.coolguy1111

normal people dont care about competion, they care about fun- something you should tru ;) 

[QUOTE="AvinashTyagi"][QUOTE="coolguy1111"]Since when does something being popular make it better? KB/M+360 controller+wheel=all you want. PC gaming>wii. face it sheep, next year we will have wii emus out. Thats how weak it is.coolguy1111

[QUOTE="coolguy1111"][QUOTE="AvinashTyagi"][QUOTE="coolguy1111"]Since when does something being popular make it better? KB/M+360 controller+wheel=all you want. PC gaming>wii. face it sheep, next year we will have wii emus out. Thats how weak it is.AvinashTyagi

[QUOTE="coolguy1111"][QUOTE="AvinashTyagi"][QUOTE="coolguy1111"]Since when does something being popular make it better? KB/M+360 controller+wheel=all you want. PC gaming>wii. face it sheep, next year we will have wii emus out. Thats how weak it is.sexy_luigi

normal people dont care about competion, they care about fun- something you should tru ;)

[QUOTE="sexy_luigi"]

[QUOTE="coolguy1111"][QUOTE="AvinashTyagi"][QUOTE="coolguy1111"]Since when does something being popular make it better? KB/M+360 controller+wheel=all you want. PC gaming>wii. face it sheep, next year we will have wii emus out. Thats how weak it is.coolguy1111

normal people dont care about competion, they care about fun- something you should tru ;)

and thats the problem:D Its a good thing that nintendo isnt targetting people like you. games are about having fun, you make them too serious and it doesnt make it fun for everyone else, the wii is a system yoiu can play with any of your friends and have a great time, while the pc you can sit there like a dork playing counterstrike owning noobs-i'm glad nintendo decided yo take the high road this gen 8) 

[QUOTE="AvinashTyagi"][QUOTE="coolguy1111"][QUOTE="AvinashTyagi"][QUOTE="coolguy1111"]Since when does something being popular make it better? KB/M+360 controller+wheel=all you want. PC gaming>wii. face it sheep, next year we will have wii emus out. Thats how weak it is.coolguy1111

Nintendo has admitted this system is not in the same league as an XBOX 360 or PS3 why can't you dense sheep do the same? The system was made for people who don't play videogames what does that tell you? I think it is rather clear in reading this board that most serious gamers grow tired of the Wii very quickly. I had a great time with Wii bowling I had a mediocre time with the rest of the Wii's library. The only thing sadder than the Wii's lineup is somebody who has this system as their only console...Khansoul

[QUOTE="coolguy1111"][QUOTE="sexy_luigi"]

[QUOTE="coolguy1111"][QUOTE="AvinashTyagi"][QUOTE="coolguy1111"]Since when does something being popular make it better? KB/M+360 controller+wheel=all you want. PC gaming>wii. face it sheep, next year we will have wii emus out. Thats how weak it is.sexy_luigi

normal people dont care about competion, they care about fun- something you should tru ;)

and thats the problem:D Its a good thing that nintendo isnt targetting people like you. games are about having fun, you make them too serious and it doesnt make it fun for everyone else, the wii is a system yoiu can play with any of your friends and have a great time, while the pc you can sit there like a dork playing counterstrike owning noobs-i'm glad nintendo decided yo take the high road this gen 8)

[QUOTE="sexy_luigi"][QUOTE="coolguy1111"][QUOTE="sexy_luigi"]

[QUOTE="coolguy1111"][QUOTE="AvinashTyagi"][QUOTE="coolguy1111"]Since when does something being popular make it better? KB/M+360 controller+wheel=all you want. PC gaming>wii. face it sheep, next year we will have wii emus out. Thats how weak it is.coolguy1111

normal people dont care about competion, they care about fun- something you should tru ;)

and thats the problem:D Its a good thing that nintendo isnt targetting people like you. games are about having fun, you make them too serious and it doesnt make it fun for everyone else, the wii is a system yoiu can play with any of your friends and have a great time, while the pc you can sit there like a dork playing counterstrike owning noobs-i'm glad nintendo decided yo take the high road this gen 8)

I wouldnt go as far as to call them a gimmick, they compliment a game very wellJetLag123

gimmicks are things that get old fast, and thats exactly what graphics are. You're wowed in the begining but then you dont care once you're in the game-thats why graphics are a gimmick 

[QUOTE="coolguy1111"][QUOTE="sexy_luigi"][QUOTE="coolguy1111"][QUOTE="sexy_luigi"]

[QUOTE="coolguy1111"][QUOTE="AvinashTyagi"][QUOTE="coolguy1111"]Since when does something being popular make it better? KB/M+360 controller+wheel=all you want. PC gaming>wii. face it sheep, next year we will have wii emus out. Thats how weak it is.AvinashTyagi

normal people dont care about competion, they care about fun- something you should tru ;)

and thats the problem:D Its a good thing that nintendo isnt targetting people like you. games are about having fun, you make them too serious and it doesnt make it fun for everyone else, the wii is a system yoiu can play with any of your friends and have a great time, while the pc you can sit there like a dork playing counterstrike owning noobs-i'm glad nintendo decided yo take the high road this gen 8)

well he likes spanking noobs on the internet, so hes beyond a nerd :? 

[QUOTE="Khansoul"]Nintendo has admitted this system is not in the same league as an XBOX 360 or PS3 why can't you dense sheep do the same? The system was made for people who don't play videogames what does that tell you? I think it is rather clear in reading this board that most serious gamers grow tired of the Wii very quickly. I had a great time with Wii bowling I had a mediocre time with the rest of the Wii's library. The only thing sadder than the Wii's lineup is somebody who has this system as their only console...AvinashTyagi

Thank you for helping my point! Now Sheep can you please stop dilluting yourselves into believing the Wii is even in the next gen race?

The Gamecube was in the last gen race but now it is a Gamecube with a TV remote against two vastly superior machines. I understand the Wii is supposed to be 2x as powerful but Nintendo must be keeping that power a secret for now. 

[QUOTE="AvinashTyagi"][QUOTE="Khansoul"]Nintendo has admitted this system is not in the same league as an XBOX 360 or PS3 why can't you dense sheep do the same? The system was made for people who don't play videogames what does that tell you? I think it is rather clear in reading this board that most serious gamers grow tired of the Wii very quickly. I had a great time with Wii bowling I had a mediocre time with the rest of the Wii's library. The only thing sadder than the Wii's lineup is somebody who has this system as their only console...Khansoul

Thank you for helping my point! Now Sheep can you please stop dilluting yourselves into believing the Wii is even in the next gen race?

The Gamecube was in the last gen race but now it is a Gamecube with a TV remote against two vastly superior machines. I understand the Wii is supposed to be 2x as powerful but Nintendo must be keeping that power a secret for now. 

[QUOTE="AvinashTyagi"][QUOTE="Khansoul"]Nintendo has admitted this system is not in the same league as an XBOX 360 or PS3 why can't you dense sheep do the same? The system was made for people who don't play videogames what does that tell you? I think it is rather clear in reading this board that most serious gamers grow tired of the Wii very quickly. I had a great time with Wii bowling I had a mediocre time with the rest of the Wii's library. The only thing sadder than the Wii's lineup is somebody who has this system as their only console...Khansoul

Thank you for helping my point! Now Sheep can you please stop dilluting yourselves into believing the Wii is even in the next gen race?

The Gamecube was in the last gen race but now it is a Gamecube with a TV remote against two vastly superior machines. I understand the Wii is supposed to be 2x as powerful but Nintendo must be keeping that power a secret for now.

[QUOTE="coolguy1111"][QUOTE="sexy_luigi"][QUOTE="coolguy1111"][QUOTE="sexy_luigi"]

[QUOTE="coolguy1111"][QUOTE="AvinashTyagi"][QUOTE="coolguy1111"]Since when does something being popular make it better? KB/M+360 controller+wheel=all you want. PC gaming>wii. face it sheep, next year we will have wii emus out. Thats how weak it is.AvinashTyagi

normal people dont care about competion, they care about fun- something you should tru ;)

and thats the problem:D Its a good thing that nintendo isnt targetting people like you. games are about having fun, you make them too serious and it doesnt make it fun for everyone else, the wii is a system yoiu can play with any of your friends and have a great time, while the pc you can sit there like a dork playing counterstrike owning noobs-i'm glad nintendo decided yo take the high road this gen 8)

[QUOTE="AvinashTyagi"][QUOTE="coolguy1111"][QUOTE="sexy_luigi"][QUOTE="coolguy1111"][QUOTE="sexy_luigi"]

[QUOTE="coolguy1111"][QUOTE="AvinashTyagi"][QUOTE="coolguy1111"]Since when does something being popular make it better? KB/M+360 controller+wheel=all you want. PC gaming>wii. face it sheep, next year we will have wii emus out. Thats how weak it is.coolguy1111

normal people dont care about competion, they care about fun- something you should tru ;)

and thats the problem:D Its a good thing that nintendo isnt targetting people like you. games are about having fun, you make them too serious and it doesnt make it fun for everyone else, the wii is a system yoiu can play with any of your friends and have a great time, while the pc you can sit there like a dork playing counterstrike owning noobs-i'm glad nintendo decided yo take the high road this gen 8)

[QUOTE="AvinashTyagi"][QUOTE="coolguy1111"][QUOTE="sexy_luigi"][QUOTE="coolguy1111"][QUOTE="sexy_luigi"]

[QUOTE="coolguy1111"][QUOTE="AvinashTyagi"][QUOTE="coolguy1111"]Since when does something being popular make it better? KB/M+360 controller+wheel=all you want. PC gaming>wii. face it sheep, next year we will have wii emus out. Thats how weak it is.sexy_luigi

normal people dont care about competion, they care about fun- something you should tru ;)

and thats the problem:D Its a good thing that nintendo isnt targetting people like you. games are about having fun, you make them too serious and it doesnt make it fun for everyone else, the wii is a system yoiu can play with any of your friends and have a great time, while the pc you can sit there like a dork playing counterstrike owning noobs-i'm glad nintendo decided yo take the high road this gen 8)

well he likes spanking noobs on the internet, so hes beyond a nerd :?

[QUOTE="coolguy1111"][QUOTE="AvinashTyagi"][QUOTE="coolguy1111"][QUOTE="sexy_luigi"][QUOTE="coolguy1111"][QUOTE="sexy_luigi"]

[QUOTE="coolguy1111"][QUOTE="AvinashTyagi"][QUOTE="coolguy1111"]Since when does something being popular make it better? KB/M+360 controller+wheel=all you want. PC gaming>wii. face it sheep, next year we will have wii emus out. Thats how weak it is.AvinashTyagi

normal people dont care about competion, they care about fun- something you should tru ;)

and thats the problem:D Its a good thing that nintendo isnt targetting people like you. games are about having fun, you make them too serious and it doesnt make it fun for everyone else, the wii is a system yoiu can play with any of your friends and have a great time, while the pc you can sit there like a dork playing counterstrike owning noobs-i'm glad nintendo decided yo take the high road this gen 8)

[QUOTE="JetLag123"]I wouldnt go as far as to call them a gimmick, they compliment a game very wellsexy_luigi

gimmicks are things that get old fast, and thats exactly what graphics are. You're wowed in the begining but then you dont care once you're in the game-thats why graphics are a gimmick

If graphics are unimportant, then why does the Wii have them at all? Such a shallow gimmick shouldn't even exist. After all, we stop caring about them at all after we 'get into' the game, right?

Why does the Wii have any graphical advancement at all over the Gamecube? Why not have it be like the Gamecube? Or if graphics are so unimportant, why not revert to 2D, to make it more accessible to others? Why don't we just play text adventures, which have no graphics, dispensing of that 'gimmick' altogether?

If you're going to say that graphics don't matter at all, you'd better be prepared to defend the argument to its extreme.  

[QUOTE="AvinashTyagi"][QUOTE="Khansoul"]Nintendo has admitted this system is not in the same league as an XBOX 360 or PS3 why can't you dense sheep do the same? The system was made for people who don't play videogames what does that tell you? I think it is rather clear in reading this board that most serious gamers grow tired of the Wii very quickly. I had a great time with Wii bowling I had a mediocre time with the rest of the Wii's library. The only thing sadder than the Wii's lineup is somebody who has this system as their only console...Khansoul

Thank you for helping my point! Now Sheep can you please stop dilluting yourselves into believing the Wii is even in the next gen race?

The Gamecube was in the last gen race but now it is a Gamecube with a TV remote against two vastly superior machines. I understand the Wii is supposed to be 2x as powerful but Nintendo must be keeping that power a secret for now.

[QUOTE="AvinashTyagi"][QUOTE="coolguy1111"][QUOTE="AvinashTyagi"][QUOTE="coolguy1111"][QUOTE="sexy_luigi"][QUOTE="coolguy1111"][QUOTE="sexy_luigi"]

[QUOTE="coolguy1111"][QUOTE="AvinashTyagi"][QUOTE="coolguy1111"]Since when does something being popular make it better? KB/M+360 controller+wheel=all you want. PC gaming>wii. face it sheep, next year we will have wii emus out. Thats how weak it is.coolguy1111

normal people dont care about competion, they care about fun- something you should tru ;)

and thats the problem:D Its a good thing that nintendo isnt targetting people like you. games are about having fun, you make them too serious and it doesnt make it fun for everyone else, the wii is a system yoiu can play with any of your friends and have a great time, while the pc you can sit there like a dork playing counterstrike owning noobs-i'm glad nintendo decided yo take the high road this gen 8)

[QUOTE="sexy_luigi"]

[QUOTE="JetLag123"]I wouldnt go as far as to call them a gimmick, they compliment a game very wellsonicmj1

gimmicks are things that get old fast, and thats exactly what graphics are. You're wowed in the begining but then you dont care once you're in the game-thats why graphics are a gimmick

If graphics are unimportant, then why does the Wii have them at all? Such a shallow gimmick shouldn't even exist. After all, we stop caring about them at all after we 'get into' the game, right?

Why does the Wii have any graphical advancement at all over the Gamecube? Why not have it be like the Gamecube? Or if graphics are so unimportant, why not revert to 2D, to make it more accessible to others? Why don't we just play text adventures, which have no graphics, dispensing of that 'gimmick' altogether?

If you're going to say that graphics don't matter at all, you'd better be prepared to defend the argument to its extreme.

you can take any argument to its extreme but it still doesnt take away from the main point. We've reached a level, where little improvements in graphics are worthless. Sure its nice to see some extra bump mapping here and there, but all the bells and whistles that come with next gen are a gimmick. you look at the graphics, you say okay nice, and then you play the game and completely forget about how awesome the game initially looked. thats whats a gimmick for me. :) 

[QUOTE="sonicmj1"][QUOTE="sexy_luigi"]

you can take any argument to its extreme but it still doesnt take away from the main point. We've reached a level, where little improvements in graphics are worthless. Sure its nice to see some extra bump mapping here and there, but all the bells and whistles that come with next gen are a gimmick. you look at the graphics, you say okay nice, and then you play the game and completely forget about how awesome the game initially looked. thats whats a gimmick for me. :)

sexy_luigi

Ok so let me understand this, your saying that better hardware is not needed because we are at this amazing level where it isnt needed and that we only need new kinds of tech like the wii remote? If so here is why you are wrong.

1. Crysis - advanced tech not only allows realistic graphics but for the first time(as far as i know) an environment so immersive that the wood splinters like it should and that foliage bends when you walk past it.

2. People say that we are at the graphical peak every generation

3. Imagine if the wii came out back when n64 and Ps1 came out and it dominated do you really think we would have the kind of graphics we now have for consoles?

4. There is no excuse to have bad graphics anymore. my 4 year old PC plays HL2 and that has better graphics than anything ive ever seen on wii so far.

5. IDK about you but unless im in the very heat of the battle I still notice: muddy textures, crappy physics, horrid explosions, and people who dont look realistic at all and the truth is that im not the only one.

oh and your point about "graphics nerds" way back shows a real lack of maturity and basically makes you lose all credibility

I didn't buy my 360 for just its graphics. I actually find the games fun..... guess I'm just weird like that.Private_Vegas

get back to us when you actually play on a hdtv.Goldensun48

well being that he said gears was BORING him i'd say playing on a HDTV is irrelevant.

if he says it sucks to him than a different TV won't change it, a different game will.

hey everyone, sexy luigi here, and boy do I have a story for you 8)

Well I just got home from my cousins house, he was feeling a bit sick so i went to cheer him up. Anyways, my little cousin has a 360 with gears of war and some tom clancy game, but i decided to bring my wii over just in case he wanted to play something fresh. So we played the campaign for gears on medium, (yhe hadnt unlocked hardcore yet) and we started, and wow was i unimpresed. I mean the graphics were okay, but after a while you dont care how shiny or bumpy everything looks. Going back to a controller that was static was almost torture, it was like driving a mercedes and then riding a tricycle. My cousin wasnt having much fun either by the way he was quite the whole time. So i told him do you want to try the wii instead, he was pretty hesistant because he was a bit of a graphics whore like the majority of 360 players, but that all changed. As soon as we started wii sports, we were having so much more fun then gears, it was unbelievable. Even though he was sick, my cousing was really getting into the game and would jump around, he almost hit the tv :lol: . We played wii sports for the rest of the time, and man, it really shows that graphics mean absolutly nothing to having fun, NY times was right in calling it the game of the year, because wii sports, along with the makority of wii games, are much funner to play then the tired old games on the 360 and ps3. 

sexy_luigi

[QUOTE="sonicmj1"][QUOTE="sexy_luigi"]

[QUOTE="JetLag123"]I wouldnt go as far as to call them a gimmick, they compliment a game very wellsexy_luigi

gimmicks are things that get old fast, and thats exactly what graphics are. You're wowed in the begining but then you dont care once you're in the game-thats why graphics are a gimmick

If graphics are unimportant, then why does the Wii have them at all? Such a shallow gimmick shouldn't even exist. After all, we stop caring about them at all after we 'get into' the game, right?

Why does the Wii have any graphical advancement at all over the Gamecube? Why not have it be like the Gamecube? Or if graphics are so unimportant, why not revert to 2D, to make it more accessible to others? Why don't we just play text adventures, which have no graphics, dispensing of that 'gimmick' altogether?

If you're going to say that graphics don't matter at all, you'd better be prepared to defend the argument to its extreme.

you can take any argument to its extreme but it still doesnt take away from the main point. We've reached a level, where little improvements in graphics are worthless. Sure its nice to see some extra bump mapping here and there, but all the bells and whistles that come with next gen are a gimmick. you look at the graphics, you say okay nice, and then you play the game and completely forget about how awesome the game initially looked. thats whats a gimmick for me. :) 

But games like Crysis and Mass Effect depend on graphics to influence gameplay.  Facial reactions play an important role in how you interact with people, crowds, ambience, AI all depend on sufficient hardware.  Crysis' level of physical deformationa nd destruction makes it unlike any shooter out there, I don't know about you, but I can't destroy an entire house in FEAR if the guys inside it are pissing me off, but I will in Crysis.  I can't track someone through brush that's realistically swaying from their recent passing in Far Cry, but I will in Crysis, I can't make a roadblock that forces the AI enemies to get out of their vehicle and try to clear in Far Cry etc. 

hey everyone, sexy luigi here, and boy do I have a story for you 8)

Well I just got home from my cousins house, he was feeling a bit sick so i went to cheer him up. Anyways, my little cousin has a 360 with gears of war and some tom clancy game, but i decided to bring my wii over just in case he wanted to play something fresh. So we played the campaign for gears on medium, (yhe hadnt unlocked hardcore yet) and we started, and wow was i unimpresed. I mean the graphics were okay, but after a while you dont care how shiny or bumpy everything looks. Going back to a controller that was static was almost torture, it was like driving a mercedes and then riding a tricycle. My cousin wasnt having much fun either by the way he was quite the whole time. So i told him do you want to try the wii instead, he was pretty hesistant because he was a bit of a graphics whore like the majority of 360 players, but that all changed. As soon as we started wii sports, we were having so much more fun then gears, it was unbelievable. Even though he was sick, my cousing was really getting into the game and would jump around, he almost hit the tv :lol: . We played wii sports for the rest of the time, and man, it really shows that graphics mean absolutly nothing to having fun, NY times was right in calling it the game of the year, because wii sports, along with the makority of wii games, are much funner to play then the tired old games on the 360 and ps3.

sexy_luigi

it's true that Graphics games do get old if it's about the GFX. i don't care if it's 2d or 3d as long as the GFX are well made colorfull. most average gamers can't even tell whats new with the GFX on there ps3 and 360 they just know it's better looking. Some can't even tell a differance from ps2 and ps3 just because there so many layers of depth that the improvments are minimal if you don't know what your looking at. My friend who's played many xbox, GC and PS2 games saw Half  life 2 on my PC(wich can run on high setting and looks amazing) and he didn't think it looked much differant than his games. his games run at low res and look like crap o me cause i know and been playing Half Life 2 and better GFX games for years. but people who just play consoles probally look at 360 and ps3 and be like that doesn't look much better. Example is Halo 2 and up and coming Halo 3 so an average user those games gonnna have little to know upgrade from what they can see.

The best graphics in the world can't save Superman N64, unless maybe its on the 360flazzle

[QUOTE="flazzle"]The best graphics in the world can't save Superman N64, unless maybe its on the 360peacebringer

[QUOTE="Goldensun48"]get back to us when you actually play on a hdtv.sexy_luigi

oh he had an hd tv, but it just goes to show that graphics are really a gimmick, fun is all that matters ;) 

No it goes to show you we have been playing games with better graphicsfor over 20 years.  If anything is a gimmic its Nintendos crap hardware that doesnt produce anything that looks better then a Gamecube.

[QUOTE="peacebringer"][QUOTE="flazzle"]The best graphics in the world can't save Superman N64, unless maybe its on the 360flazzle

Superman 360 still has visuals far superior to anything ive seen on the Wii.

[QUOTE="sexy_luigi"][QUOTE="sonicmj1"][QUOTE="sexy_luigi"]

you can take any argument to its extreme but it still doesnt take away from the main point. We've reached a level, where little improvements in graphics are worthless. Sure its nice to see some extra bump mapping here and there, but all the bells and whistles that come with next gen are a gimmick. you look at the graphics, you say okay nice, and then you play the game and completely forget about how awesome the game initially looked. thats whats a gimmick for me. :)

bob_nope_none

Ok so let me understand this, your saying that better hardware is not needed because we are at this amazing level where it isnt needed and that we only need new kinds of tech like the wii remote? If so here is why you are wrong.

1. Crysis - advanced tech not only allows realistic graphics but for the first time(as far as i know) an environment so immersive that the wood splinters like it should and that foliage bends when you walk past it.

2. People say that we are at the graphical peak every generation

3. Imagine if the wii came out back when n64 and Ps1 came out and it dominated do you really think we would have the kind of graphics we now have for consoles?

4. There is no excuse to have bad graphics anymore. my 4 year old PC plays HL2 and that has better graphics than anything ive ever seen on wii so far.

5. IDK about you but unless im in the very heat of the battle I still notice: muddy textures, crappy physics, horrid explosions, and people who dont look realistic at all and the truth is that im not the only one.

oh and your point about "graphics nerds" way back shows a real lack of maturity and basically makes you lose all credibility

[QUOTE="flazzle"][QUOTE="peacebringer"][QUOTE="flazzle"]The best graphics in the world can't save Superman N64, unless maybe its on the 360Archx1

Superman 360 still has visuals far superior to anything ive seen on the Wii.

[QUOTE="flazzle"][QUOTE="peacebringer"][QUOTE="flazzle"]The best graphics in the world can't save Superman N64, unless maybe its on the 360Archx1

Superman 360 still has visuals far superior to anything ive seen on the Wii.

[QUOTE="latinodemon"][QUOTE="sexy_luigi"]

[QUOTE="samusarmada"]your gonna get assaulted by lemmings once you said wii sports>gears of war. i can hear it now "casual trash." "gimmicky fad" "no chainsaws."AvinashTyagi

exactly, most of the people who rag on the wiis graphics are nothing more than graphics nerds. But its okay, nintendo isnt appealing to them, its appealing to the normal people who just want to have fun with their games, and in truth fun >>>> graphics which is why wii sports >>>>gears, why else would NY times give it game of the year ? 

Maybe because they Know **** about good games!

So because it sells better than the other systems that means it's a better console?

I've got a story too it goes something like this... One day the Wii came out and it only had one game worth playing and it was a delayed port of a gamecube game with tacked on gimmicky controls. The End. Moral of the Story? Wii sucks.pooonu

LOL

Nintendo has admitted this system is not in the same league as an XBOX 360 or PS3 why can't you dense sheep do the same? The system was made for people who don't play videogames what does that tell you? I think it is rather clear in reading this board that most serious gamers grow tired of the Wii very quickly. I had a great time with Wii bowling I had a mediocre time with the rest of the Wii's library. The only thing sadder than the Wii's lineup is somebody who has this system as their only console...Khansoul

So true

[QUOTE="sonicmj1"][QUOTE="sexy_luigi"]

[QUOTE="JetLag123"]I wouldnt go as far as to call them a gimmick, they compliment a game very wellsexy_luigi

gimmicks are things that get old fast, and thats exactly what graphics are. You're wowed in the begining but then you dont care once you're in the game-thats why graphics are a gimmick

If graphics are unimportant, then why does the Wii have them at all? Such a shallow gimmick shouldn't even exist. After all, we stop caring about them at all after we 'get into' the game, right?

Why does the Wii have any graphical advancement at all over the Gamecube? Why not have it be like the Gamecube? Or if graphics are so unimportant, why not revert to 2D, to make it more accessible to others? Why don't we just play text adventures, which have no graphics, dispensing of that 'gimmick' altogether?

If you're going to say that graphics don't matter at all, you'd better be prepared to defend the argument to its extreme.

you can take any argument to its extreme but it still doesnt take away from the main point. We've reached a level, where little improvements in graphics are worthless. Sure its nice to see some extra bump mapping here and there, but all the bells and whistles that come with next gen are a gimmick. you look at the graphics, you say okay nice, and then you play the game and completely forget about how awesome the game initially looked. thats whats a gimmick for me. :) 

You Know whats funny,that if the wii had graphics as good as the ps3/x360 than this topic would have never been made.

[QUOTE="sexy_luigi"][QUOTE="sonicmj1"][QUOTE="sexy_luigi"]

[QUOTE="JetLag123"]I wouldnt go as far as to call them a gimmick, they compliment a game very welllatinodemon

gimmicks are things that get old fast, and thats exactly what graphics are. You're wowed in the begining but then you dont care once you're in the game-thats why graphics are a gimmick

If graphics are unimportant, then why does the Wii have them at all? Such a shallow gimmick shouldn't even exist. After all, we stop caring about them at all after we 'get into' the game, right?

Why does the Wii have any graphical advancement at all over the Gamecube? Why not have it be like the Gamecube? Or if graphics are so unimportant, why not revert to 2D, to make it more accessible to others? Why don't we just play text adventures, which have no graphics, dispensing of that 'gimmick' altogether?

If you're going to say that graphics don't matter at all, you'd better be prepared to defend the argument to its extreme.

you can take any argument to its extreme but it still doesnt take away from the main point. We've reached a level, where little improvements in graphics are worthless. Sure its nice to see some extra bump mapping here and there, but all the bells and whistles that come with next gen are a gimmick. you look at the graphics, you say okay nice, and then you play the game and completely forget about how awesome the game initially looked. thats whats a gimmick for me. :) 

You Know whats funny,that if the wii had graphics as good as the ps3/x360 than this topic would have never been made.

so true, becasue the wii is so weak this gen, the sheep revert to this stage where: graphics sucx, gameplay is all that matter. alright so if i can have fun, fabulous graphics, and great gameplay all packed into one(gears), would you rather play a  black and white 2d stick figure game with just fun gameplay, and then your going to say " graphics dont matter only gameplay".  yomg!!11 teh gameplayyz in stick figuresszz is teh asommers!! i have beenz owd by teh sheepies! oh noes!