Why do pc cemtric titles now sell more on consoles?

Portal 2 was confirmed by valve to have sold better on PC. Pretty sure Payday 2 sold better on PC by a lot. BAttlefield 3 sold just as well as either console - probably in between PS3 and 360, but not better. Skyrim sold a bazzillion copies on PC, it's still one fo the top 10 played games on PC - but we don't know if it did better on PC than console. It's certianly the most played version right now, but all we ever hear from the publisher is that the Pc osld like crazy - but no hard numbers.

Alan wake definitley didn't sell better on PC. No surprise there since it was on 360 for severla YEARS before it came to PC. The dev did say that they made a profit after porting costs within a day on Steam, I believe?

This still seems to me like such a pathetic thing to argue about. Like we play sales figures vs games or something.

And the entire premise is so misguided and such a huge strawman, used only by console warriors to try and score points. Hmmm, 2 gaming platforms COMBINED tends to beat a single gaming platform in sales... who would of thunk it!!

As I mentioned before - I don't give a crap if SKyrim did sell better on consoles - the PC version is THE version to play.

Digital sales are never included in these reports. Very few people buy hard copy PC games these days.

PC Revenue : www.dsogaming.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/1cdb17dd-05bb-453b-8cdc-b1f0eb5e9dc4.jpg

Alan Wake Profitable on PC within 48 hours . The IP was saved by PC gamers , Xbox version sold only 1.4 million in 2 years (That was their target minimum target sales) : http://www.gamefront.com/alan-wake-pc-made-a-profit-within-48-hours/

Portal 2 sold better on PC : http://www.computerandvideogames.com/317160/portal-2-did-better-on-pc-than-console-newell-reveals/

Payday 2 80% Sales were from digital version . Majority of PC owners buy games digitally . Even if you consider it not outselling both console versions combined (which you always do) , it still did better than both versions separately . Same can be said about Skyrim , it broke all records on steam back in 2011 .

Then there are other console games that were huge success on PC like Mortal Kombat . Not to mention the overall profit , every penny goes straight to developers . No one takes a single penny other than developers unlike console releases . PC is so much not "profitable" that it is most popular platform among developers .

http://www.dsogaming.com/news/gdc-2014-survey-proves-that-pc-is-the-most-popular-platform/

It's so sad that corporations had been lying to gamers for so many years and people had been believing in them . This is getting old now .

This was fall out as a PC centric title,

12 dollars says console gamers wouldn't even think about touching FallOut if the ones that came to console were isometric/top down games

PC centric titles sell more on PC, which is why PC has more gaming revenue than any console.

OP was lying, trolling, or is flat out wrong.

LOL going by boxed sales = you lost.

maybe it did, but now.. x360 and ps3 are leading

@blamix99:

going by what?

And Valve already confirmed it a long time

other...

Community, and less cheating/hacking... well until later on in the console generation at least...

lol guess you dont know that game sales on consoles are almost nil after the first month of release let alone years later

Page 2 and no link to back up the TC's claims. Time to put this thread to bed mods.

Casuals.

Why are we comparing 3 consoles to 1 PC platform? That doesn't seem very fair.

probably due to a) flavor of the month culture of the console world b) mods

you must be joking

@SEANMCAD said:

@Cloud_imperium said:

@blamix99 said:

@Cloud_imperium said:

It's so sad that corporations had been lying to gamers for so many years and people had been believing in them . This is getting old now .

I am a bit surprised at the mobile gaming numbers.

I bet its likely people playing games at work, on the bus, waiting in line etc.

And in class rooms .

Consoles are also not backward compatible which makes console sales extremely front loaded . On other hand PC games sell for decades . People still buy games like Elite , Baldur's Gate and Placescape Torment from GOG.com . Not to mention old console games that vanished from stores a long time ago , are kept alive by PC gamers , thanks to emulators .

"PC Gamer had been the most loyal customer" : Chris Roberts .

@SEANMCAD said:

@Cloud_imperium said:

@blamix99 said:

@Cloud_imperium said:

It's so sad that corporations had been lying to gamers for so many years and people had been believing in them . This is getting old now .

I am a bit surprised at the mobile gaming numbers.

I bet its likely people playing games at work, on the bus, waiting in line etc.

This was a survey conducted at a game developers conference... which is mostly just a bunch of indie and amateur game developers. It doesnt mean anything. Do we really think "android microconsoles" (which i assume means ouya) get almost as much developer support as PS3 and xbox 360 combined?

@BeardMaster said:

@SEANMCAD said:

@Cloud_imperium said:

@blamix99 said:

@Cloud_imperium said:

It's so sad that corporations had been lying to gamers for so many years and people had been believing in them . This is getting old now .

I am a bit surprised at the mobile gaming numbers.

I bet its likely people playing games at work, on the bus, waiting in line etc.

This was a survey conducted at a game developers conference... which is mostly just a bunch of indie and amateur game developers. It doesnt mean anything. Do we really think "android microconsoles" (which i assume means ouya) get almost as much developer support as PS3 and xbox 360 combined?

Well there's crossover, since it seems they could pick more than one. So i'd imagine a lot of the people who said smartphone/tablet also said android microconsole

@lostrib said:

@BeardMaster said:

@SEANMCAD said:

@Cloud_imperium said:

@blamix99 said:

@Cloud_imperium said:

It's so sad that corporations had been lying to gamers for so many years and people had been believing in them . This is getting old now .

I am a bit surprised at the mobile gaming numbers.

I bet its likely people playing games at work, on the bus, waiting in line etc.

This was a survey conducted at a game developers conference... which is mostly just a bunch of indie and amateur game developers. It doesnt mean anything. Do we really think "android microconsoles" (which i assume means ouya) get almost as much developer support as PS3 and xbox 360 combined?

Well there's crossover, since it seems they could pick more than one. So i'd imagine a lot of the people who said smartphone/tablet also said android microconsole

Right but im saying the respondents are generally the ones making self published self developed type games. Its not like the dev teams from triple AAA studios all take time off work to goto these things. So im not sure what the importance of the chart is other than to show PC and mobile have way more crappy indie games, which everyone already knew.

If you want to game on the computer there's only one choice. On console you can have as many as 5 choices. Not really fair to compare just one console to pc.

1 pc version of Battlefield 4 yet there's 4 versions to choose from on console.

Console gaming isn't monopolized like computer gaming is. If consoles were then you'd almost have the perfect apples to apples comparison. Even if consoles were monopolized theres still the gen transition where half the sales of a multiplat are on the old consoles and half on the new.

That's an incredibly small list and where's the sales breakdown info for Alan Wake and Skyrim? Also remember BF 3 is completely gimped on console.

Yup, and I've also found that PC games have longer lasting communities because of a)

I've bought some console games that were only 1-2 years old and the online community had already died out completely. While on PC there are many games over 5 years old that still have a really active community.

PC gaming is too much of a hassle. I just want to stick the game in and press play. The end.

My PC is never good enough to play any of the games and I have to install new hardware or find stupid drivers. The cost and time needed to enjoy a PC game is too much. Plus keyboard and mouse sucks. It breaks my left wrist.

You sir, win, the idiot troll award! Congratulations!

It's a good thing with PC you don't even have to stick the game in! Just click it and it works! Less hassle than consoles!

My 360 won't play XB1 games nor my Wii Wii U games! To make things worse my PS4 can't even play PS3 ones, wtf?!?! CONSOLE GAMING SUCKS.

It feels this way for nearly all multiplats after playing them on PC. Going from 60 to 20 fps is harsh.

Hermits wait for those $1-5 sales on steam, they cant afford buy new games at full price after spent so much money on hardware upgrades...

Piracy do lots damage too...

Hmm 450+ games on steam paid full price or over 200 of them...try again.

Piracy has been on the PC for 30 years (as it is with any open platform) and it never killed it, now we have digital downloads to compete with it, piracy is less of a problem than ever, but you fanboys like to drag it up because you lack any reasonable and remotely solid arguments. :(

You need new material these are already worn out.

First off, none of those games you mentioned are "PC-centric"

All those games are mostly first person shooters, and a lot of people prefer to play those with a gamepad.

PC centric is where, having a keyboard and mouse is the organic experience to the game, like a game like Hearthstone or SimCity or X-Com and other strategy/simulation titles where you really need that mouse pointer and a keyboard. This applies to MMORPGs also.

The short answer to your question is: higher install base. It's easier to be a console gamer, not everyone can, or is willing to be a PC Gamer. But really, who cares. Playing games like X-Com is way better on PC, having a mouse and keyboard helps a lot to that sort of game. Being a console fanboy is just as bad as being a PC fanboy, just shutup and game.

Consoles aren't monopolized? Are you mad?

Who owns Playstation 3 / 4 and controls everything released on it?

Who owns Xbox 360 / One and controls everything released on it?

Who owns Wii / Wii U and controls everything released on it?

The entire console market is controlled by 3 companies and each own and monopolize their own platform.

Now tell me who exactly monopolizes the PC market? Is it the developers who make far more profit per unit sold because they don't have to give a huge cut to Sony, MS or Nintendo but still manage to release games capable of running the multitude of potential hardware configurations available? Or perhaps it's AMD, Intel or Nvidia who release their reference boards to third party manufacturers for commercial development and release? Of course it could be the third party manufacturers who, as well as releasing their own versions of AMD and Nvidia's graphics cards and AMD and Intel's motherboards, design and build their own add on cards for the near infinite uses of a PC.

The only restricted choice in the commercial PC market are CPU's in which you only have Intel and AMD's offerings to choose from, though there are multiple versions from both to choose from.

More so with BF 3 since it's 24 players. BF 4 usually has more players on next gen consoles than pc.

it is the developers that bring it up so yeah it seem to be a problem and console version sells more of most multiplats. Thats why you have to wait for GTA V on pc...

If you want to game on consoles you have the choice between MS, Sony and Nintendo. You aren't forced into one company. Hence, not monopolized.

With computer gaming it's pc or nothing. PC is synonymous with Windows. Mac and Linux simply aren't viable options since most games support neither. MS basically has a monopoly on pc gaming since all games are designed to run on Windows.

So when people put forth the argument that comparing all consoles to pc is unfair then you could say well what if Mac and Linux were as popular as pc for gaming? Pc gaming numbers would be cut by 2/3rds if that were the case.

I think it's because PC gamers, myself included, are spoiled by Steam's christmas sales, along with the Christmas-in-July sales, and will instead hold onto their money for those sales.

lowest common denominator. thats why.

case in point: pop music.

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A handfull of the hundreds of devs talking about it does not equal all devs....and GTA gets delayed so they can get people to double dip on the game...why have somebody buy it once when you can get them to buy it twice.

All of what you say is your own opinion and not rooted in fact.

Oh and provide proof of those multiplat sales numbers while you are at it or that too becomes another opinion.

The consolites still avoid the digital sales....

If they get added then:

That's sad too. I bought the Galactic Edition of Spore which included a lot of stuff along with the game. While I love the ease of being able to Download Skyrim from Steam at will if I uninstalled it at will for whatever reason, having a collectible hard copy like that is great.

More people game on consoles & piracy.

source?

Shut up!

Lol. Why do you get so upset?