What if Sony loses Naughty Dog?

Cry out loud , what else.

Probably one of the dumbest comments I've seen in the last decade.

@GoldenElementXL: like your post also demonstrated?

@cainetao11:

Again like you said "maybe", but yeah it could be that they just liked the game and wasn't "loyalty". Maybe loyalty was a strong word.

Exactly.

It's another: "let's play pretend" thread.

Anti-Sony people would rejoice and Sony people would be sad. That's the answer, correct?

Some users would point to Sony's other 1st party studios:

SCE Japan Studio (Gravity Rush, Shadow of the Colossus, ICO, Siren, etc),

SCE San Diego Studio (MLB),

Media Molecule (Tearaway, LittleBigPlanet 1/2, Dreams),

London Studio (Getaway, Singstar, Gangs of London, etc),

Sucker Punch (Infamous, Sly Cooper),

Sony Santa Monica (God of War and various other titles),

Polyphony (Gran Turismo),

Guerrilla (Killzone series, Horizon),

etc

as other studios they enjoy. Of course, Naughty Dog is also a part of Sony studios so it's an odd question. The only way it would happen is if Sony closed down Playstation and sold these studios off. Of course, if Sony suddenly didn't have to support Naughty Dog studios, they would have more money so I'm sure a new big studio would spring up in it's place, much like we saw with Bungie and then 343, and then more recently with The Coalition.

It's all kind of pointless banter though since this is all just idle speculation and none of it is happening anytime soon.

Psych wards would see a spike in their population growth.

If Sony lost ND NyadDC would have so many little 'accidents' in his pants he would need constant help from medical and mental health professionals in order to function as a normal human being again even though he has published lots of photos of somebody elses PC equipment (he's not fooling anybody).

lol

What if questions suck, less alone a whole thread about it.

They might not be able to lose the ND brand, but the people in ND? Way more likely, especially if Microsoft offers more funding.

Remedy is secretly doing a game exclusive for ps4

Never gonna happen. The ND people are always praising SONY and always talk about how they wouldnt be where they are without SONY and how much they are loyal to SONY.

What if GUFU never existed? Teh Conspiracy!

Unlike MS, there's still a bunch of good internal studios that create games like God of War and SotC. They'll be fine especially with those free exclusives from Japanese publishers.

I'd buy their games wherever they were released. I have no brand loyalty to a console but ND has put out some of my favorite games with Jak, Crash, Uncharted, and the Last of Us.

I don't see them leaving Sony though. They get freedom to make new ips as they see fit which a lot of developers don't get.

What's GUFU?

Might just be anomaly but weren't some speculating some fatigue from GoW? The GoW from SM is my most anticipated title tho.

Does the last few GoW/SCEJ materials generate as much attention/sales as ND games?

Did they actually say that? Just curious.

Yikes.

The greatest Union ever on GS

Really Naughty Dog wouldn't be worth much if their notable talent left. It'd be a big blow if Sony lost Neil Druckman and Bruce Strayley and other leads at Naughty Dog.

It'll probably never happen, but if the price was right another company with way more money than Sony (Ubi, EA, Microsoft, Activision-Blizzard) could easily entice Naughty Dog employees to leave ND and come work for them. I'm sure ND employees are fairly loyal to Sony but if they were literally offered double their salary, benefits and the chance to work for a company who isn't in the financial toilet like Sony is, they'd most likely jump ship immediately.

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2012-08-08-what-would-happen-if-microsoft-nintendo-and-sony-got-together-to-make-one-console

Surprised there seem to be an actual article of that.

I see. I wonder what's next they'd come up with. AFAIK, UC2 (Sony) popularized the "cinematic action gaming" in the industry which seem to be quite popular recently. I'm not sure of other games that really did that.. maybe MGS4?

Hope Morpheus could make HMD's be more mainstream and one of Sony's studios make something quite popular with it.

The weakest hardcore damage control from Cows in history. Now If ND turned into MS's Rare... Thats the real plausible question.

No one would really care.

What do you mean by that exactly?

I'm not familiar with rare so I checked some wiki.. seeing Kinect Rivals, some Yooka game and Sea of Thieves.

Do you mean devs making smaller than AAA titles? I haven't looked much into it but Yooka, SoT don't seem to be in the same league as Halo 5, Scalebound, QB, Gears.

They'll still have 700% more exclusives than X1.

Idk. I certainly wish I could give a least 1/4 a **** about ND, but I don't.

GG are not even in the same book as ND, each to their own though i guess.

@j2zon2591: Rare use to be a second party dev. for Nintendo. In short, they made some Nintendo classics like Donkey Kong Country 1-3, Goldeneye, Perfect Dark, Banjo Kazooie,Jet force Gemini among others. Then MS bought them out, and a lot of the OG talent from Rare went elsewhere. Thats why we see the trash you were talking about. Rare is just a brand name with MS behind it only.

In order for Sony to lose Naughty Dog, Sony either sells ND or the founders buy them out.

The founders are no longer at ND, so they can't buy themselves out anymore

Not as much as you think. Most people purchase third party games anyways.

The PS3 has an 80 million user install base and none of the Uncharted games managed to sell 10 million units.

Sony's first party would be incredibly weak without them, and it's pretty weak right now.

They'll move on to making better games for more platforms and be more profitable ?

But look at the article! A reason why they are talking about it!!! Someone in the game industry was talking about the limitations of having so many consoles. This thread is pure speculation what if, garbage. There is no reason to talk about this at this moment in time. You could learn from that article you posted

What is Konami lost Kojima Productions? .. oh wait.....

You can only buy something that's for sale...China could buy the Statue of Liberty, but it isn't for sale.

@j2zon2591: it's a different situation, Bungie was always in an exclusive contract with Microsoft that ended in 2007. Very similiar to their current 10 year publishing deal with Activision

Andy Gavin and Jason Rubin flat out sold Naughty Dog studio to Sony back in 2000 or so..

jesus tapdancing christ, look at the other two comments I responded too that said the same damn thing

I honestly think ND is a below average studio. I haven't liked even 1 game they made.

What if I won the lottery? What if I were struck by lightening? What if an asteroid hit earth? What if, what if? LoL

In all seriousness, I'd probably have a quick laugh at the momentary suffering of cows, but then I'd sit back in my chair to think of how improved the video game industry would be without the speartip of shitty movie games.

I see.

Fair enough. Sorry to bother. I'm still interested in what people think with the hypothetical.

I see. I guess Sony could still be the more preferable console with resolutiongate + media spreading resolutiongate (regardless of actual perception).

I kinda thought so but as others have said, Sony don't seem to be too reliant on one franchise and they can shift the resource w/o ND.

I see. So Bungie was more of a 3rd party contractee?

Anyway, something I saw:

http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/691088-xbox-one/67682365

Buying up developers willy-nilly to ensure the largest possible headcount doesn't equate to having a great exclusive line-up, Microsoft Studios boss Phil Spencer has claimed, pointing to Microsoft's productive partnership with Epic as evidence that partnering with third party publishers is no less valid a tactic.

"I think to some out there there's a fixation with which studios you own, which studios you work with, and for better or worse I'm not fixated on that," he told IGN as part of the latter's Podcast Unlocked.

"I lived through the Xbox 360 generation and we had a great relationship with Epic, and we built Gears of War, and really that franchise was born on the Xbox 360 and hit incredible heights on the Xbox 360. And whether we owned Epic or simply worked with Epic was not part of the conversation [about whether] that game was going to be great."

"Certain people will look at how many Microsoft-badged employees do you have versus Sony-badged employees, and when they start to weigh the different first parties," he continued. "And I know there are some people that want to own their own studio, be independent, drive their business, and go completely their own way, keep their own culture.

"And I respect that - if people want to work that way, we'll continue to work with them. I don't see it as a barrier to what we can do together. Whether it's Remedy, whether it's Insomniac, whether it's Crytek. So the relationship with Respawn? Obviously they have a publisher, EA, for their game, but it's a strong relationship and we feel great about what they're bringing to Xbox."

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I wonder if Sony 1st party can do better metal/lower level programming compared to 3rd party.. and if similar to MS' studios. That probably won't make a better new game automatically but still could help a studio.

Hmm.. IDK but yeah, I think they are the spearhead of "movie games". I enjoy them tho but I can understand why some don't and their supposed negative effect on the industry.

I wouldn't care. Planet Earth is still a shitty mess, with or without Naughty Dog.

why is this even a thread?

For the trolls, there really isnt a reason this forum should exist

I'm more curious if ND can break the streak they have with UC4. UC1 was ok. UC2 was great. UC3 was meh. TLOU was great. Will UC4 be great or another "meh" entry?

Sony bought Naughty Dog years ago.

You can't lose something you outright own. If working conditions go to hell, or if Sony decides to axe employees, there could be an exodus of talent.

Sony's current financial straits have led it to sell assets and ditch expensive studios elsewhere. Hopefully Naughty Dog continues to be a standout performer. Their products really do stand out.

@batosaims: Sony is no longer in dire straits financially(they aren't losing money) and PlayStation is a key to the corporation's future strategy so I think it would be really hard to pry away key ND talent away if money was the only concern. They would be gone already if it was that simple. The worst times have past and they survived.

I'd say it'll never happen but i also thought that about Bungie leaving MS. If it did it would be a huge blow to Playstation as they are by far the No. 1 dev for the brand.

Because they finally turned a profit after a string of losses? No, come back after 3-5 years of Sony continuously turning a profit and then will talk. If someone offered ND employees a job with a substantially larger salary and the chance to work for a company that doesn't have to chop off their limbs to stay afloat like Sony does, they'd leave in a heart beat, you'd have to be an idiot to think otherwise.